2021 IKEA LADDA 1900 and 2450 AA Rechargeable Battery Testing and Analysis

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It's here! This video features the capacity and internal resistance testing on the 2021 revision of the IKEA LADDA 1900 (1900 mAh) and 2450 (2450 mAh) AA battery. Internal resistance testing of the previous edition IKEA LADDA 2450 (2450 mAh) will be in a separate video. The LADDA 750 (750 mAh) and 900 (900 mAh) AAA battery testing will be in an upcoming video.
Dimensions of Batteries:
LADDA 1900 AA: 50.41 mm (L) x 14.28 mm (W) +/- 0.03 mm
LADDA 2450 AA: 50.41 mm (L) x 14.28 mm (W) +/- 0.03 mm
Note 1: Throughout the video, I call the new IKEA LADDA 1900 and 2450s "IKEA LADDA Grays" to hopefully minimize confusion.
Note 2: The internal impedance testing is still in beta, and there will likely be some changes in how the testing is performed. When that happens, I will post a new video with the revised and/or extended testing and link it in this video. For now, please use this internal impedance testing as a reference point between the batteries.
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0:00 Introduction
1:51 IKEA LADDA "Gray" 1900 - Capacity
3:17 Panasonic Eneloop - Capacity
5:43 IKEA LADDA "Gray" 1900 vs Panasonic Eneloop - Capacity
6:50 IKEA LADDA "Gray" 2450 - Capacity
8:48 IKEA LADDA "White" 2450 Previous Testing - Capacity
10:10 IKEA LADDA "White" vs IKEA LADDA "Gray" - Capacity
11:30 Internal Impedance Testing Introduction
12:23 IKEA LADDA "Gray" 1900 - Internal Impedance Testing
15:20 Panasonic Eneloop 2000 mAh - Internal Impedance Testing
16:47 IKEA LADDA "Gray" 2450 - Internal Impedance Testing
17:45 A Good Start, But More Testing is Needed
19:59 Conclusions
#LADDA #battery #testing

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@Purkkaviritys 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the testing, just found out about the new LADDAs today.

@storypunman 2 жыл бұрын

These are the best rechargeable batteries I have used. Made in Japan high quality. I use them in cameras, flashlights, GPS. two way radios and anywhere high drain/demand AA or AAA are needed, My son uses them in his X box remotes. I have made several trips back to Ikea to pick up more. Don't waste your time or money on anything else. Also thanks for all the work and testing. You gave us all the info in 20 minutes, but you invested a lot of time in this data.

@digginggopher 4 ай бұрын

I'm a Ladda fanboy too, I do think enloops are better, but the price of eneloops is crazy, LADDA is just such a fair price for what you get, decent NiMh batteries, I have them in all my AA and AAA flashlights, I even have a couple cheap 18650 flashlights running AAA LADDA in an adapter that makes three AAA fit a 1865l

@markchuchra8399 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for covering the 1900s so thoroughly. When I went to my local IKEA store, that was the only stock available. They seem like a decent good deal. I’m now a new subscriber. And fan.

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel 2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for watching!

@thisaname 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work! Very useful and please keep it up

@StudioGalvan Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the testing effort and especially the concluding remarks. 👍🏼

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@krass76 2 жыл бұрын

a great look! thorough testing! if you should choose to take a look at the stenkol 0dV/dt charger, please look at whether it does trickle charge or not. any trickle charge current would be bad for these LSD cells and would mean you have to take them out of the charger asap after charging. diodegonewild already made a video but missed that. also it's a pulsed charger so you'd have to hook up the oscilloscope to the current shunt of the charger to find that out. my multimeter in series couldn't pick up any but maybe it's just too slow. also it terminates the charge much cooler than my BC700 (-dV/dt) so it should be better for the cells.

@johnd.5480 11 ай бұрын

Great video! I wonder if you can comment on the confusing charge rate printed on the label near the seam...."Standard charge: 245 mA for 16 hrs."

@harristhecavaliers Жыл бұрын

thanks for the review bro! SUBSCRIBED!

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@iancurrie8844 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this.

@wbaisjeff 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@SUPAxiuxiu 2 жыл бұрын

Great video,and i decide to buy the new LADDAs.

@spyros7607 Жыл бұрын

Well done! Smooth video and thank you for your research!!! I'll go grab a few whenever I'll have a chance to. I want them for my Xbox controller. I guess I'll pick the higher capacity ones. Should I care about the cycles? Thanks again for the video!

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

I use the "standard capacity" batteries with higher cycle counts for low-power draw devices. Thanks for watching!

@MoneyShot702 Жыл бұрын

I've used eneloop pros, Fujitsu pros and ladda 2450s in my Xbox controller for years and have also tried the ladda1900s and standard eneloop. The pros/2450s definitely last longer. Don't worry about about charge cycles. They'll both last you for generations to come. 500 is a LOT of cycles.

@squirts1 2 жыл бұрын

Is impedence variation between cells important? If a device is using 4 batteries and some cells are 40 while others are 90? Have you done anything with the Tenergy "premium Pro"? I assume these are probably identical to eneloop pros?

@cosmicaler Жыл бұрын

Just got myself a LADDA 2450 and the only one left here in my IKEA. All they have left were 1900s. When I heard they were Eneloop level in quality, I grabe a pack of em.

@tymon-qz9ig 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@coolspot18 Жыл бұрын

My ISDT N8 charger shows these batteries have a 150 - 180 mOhms resistance while charging. To test resitance, should it be discharge rather than charging resistance?

@jesuschal3802 2 жыл бұрын

Have you taken a look at the SkyRC MC3000 charger/discharger? It can be configured in many ways and get data on to the PC/Phone. It provides you with temperature, internal impedance, charts, etc.

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds cool. I'll take a look! Thanks for watching!

@MoneyShot702 Жыл бұрын

@@TheCuriousEngineerChannel bro get this charger, nothing even comes close to all the features and options you can change. I've had mine for years and still going strong. Make sure to check for new firmware if you get one.

@aliancemd 3 ай бұрын

Over a year ago(maybe even ~2 years) I charged 2xIKEA Ladda 2450, 1xGP ReCyko+ Pro(2000 mAh), 1x"Rechargeable"(no name battery from Auchan, 2500 mAh) - I just put a multimeter on all 4 and the Auchan one was at ~1.0V, GP ReCyko+ Pro at ~1.32V and the 2 LADDA batteries were at 1.3700V and 1.3706V which impressed me, one is how well these kept the charge but also how close the voltage is(I triple checked, every time the same voltage) after these discharged over 1 year - this made me curious about these batteries. These seem to keep the charge quite well.

@Fatsimbacat 6 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for the video. I have the ikea 2450 is it ok to fast charge them in 2 hours on my Ansmann ma x-e speed charger 1400mA

@superbrighteye Жыл бұрын

was it not so that you can charge the 1900 type much more times then you can do the 2400 type ?

@h8GW 8 ай бұрын

No one gonna talk about the nice pun he put in the thumbnail?

@smarttravellife1925 Жыл бұрын

1900s are almost the half price of 2450. Which one is more preferable to buy this case?

@johndorian3685 Жыл бұрын

Nice review. Thanks. In your opinion will 1900 mAh LADDA perform adequately in Omron blood pressure monitor or will it need 2450 mAh LADDA ?

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

Both should work fine. The 2450's might let you take more readings before needing a charge.

@NikoSatiaNuryanto 2 жыл бұрын

so whats better sir for 2450? the new one or old white ladda?

@ViruX93 2 жыл бұрын

Same with different color

@xemsyt8941 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. I know nothing about batteries so pardon my potentially stupid question. I had heard that while the 2450s have more capacity/etc than the 1900s they will passively drain quicker (i.e. a fully charged 2450 that is not in use will still slowly drain faster than a 1900 not in use) (which doesn't super make sense to me that they would passively drain at all but as I said I know nothing) Is there any truth to that? My goal is to get batteries that will last as long as possible, am I better off sticking with the 1900s or should i get some 2450s?

@wizzgamer Жыл бұрын

No they have the best drain of any batteries on the planet l.

@davidl9943 Жыл бұрын

If you just look at the percentage, then yes, the 2450s drain quicker. But even at 85% at one year, they are still higher than the 1900s 90% at one year. 2450 @ 1 year: 2082 1900 @ 1 year: 1710

@bishalscreation Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

@bishalscreation Жыл бұрын

@@TheCuriousEngineerChannel 😁

@jsjsjs1116 2 жыл бұрын

is there a weight difference between the 1900ma and 2450ma ?

@mikeschwagmeyer1347 2 жыл бұрын

1900 mah 26 grams 2450 mah 30 grams

@iwalker3809 2 жыл бұрын

Wondering at what discharge current the cell manufacturer would use in order to get the stated Ah capacities on the wrappers. 100 ma or less ??

@SweDennis 2 жыл бұрын

Who knows, but the IEC standard procedure for life cycle testing is pretty clear. The discharge rate set to go with the standard charge of 0.1C, usually printed on the label is 0.2C, so it all depends on the expected capacity.

@iwalker3809 2 жыл бұрын

@@SweDennis Thanks, so about a 5 hour discharge time.

@SweDennis 2 жыл бұрын

Seems pretty agreed upon. Chargers with a break in cycle, such as the c9000 from maha default to that as well, so yeah. As to what manufacturers actually Do use however, wouldn't know, but 0.2C seems very consistent with what's on the label.

@woopsserg Жыл бұрын

Capacitance dropping at lower discharge current is likely because they get not fully charged as charger cuts off too early.

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

I've found with that charger, that it actually slower to catch the -dv/dt at lower charge currents, and actually slightly overcharges the batteries slightly. So, if anything the capacitance should be higher.

@nonameddog Жыл бұрын

will you review the Stenkol Ikea Charger?

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

I've got a few others that I am testing at the moment, but it has been added to the list. Thanks for watching!

@K4ziq 2 жыл бұрын

which of the laddas should i consider to use in mouse for example? 1900 or 2450?

@theanalogguy1988 2 жыл бұрын

Both are great it’s just about the capacity, the biggest capacity normally the longer time you need to recharge it and the longer it will lasts but it won’t be a problem, in terms of the price I’d rather buy the 2450

@atexc5604 2 жыл бұрын

@@theanalogguy1988 Mouse doesn't require high current, so using eneloop pro AKA ladda 2450 is totally pointless. They have far less charge/discharge cycles than 1900.

@verynick 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought 8 LADDAS. Do you recommend using ikea charger or third party? I have been able to find videos of good charger from you

@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele Жыл бұрын

Stenkol charger is very cheap but still good. Just a bit slow. Tested by @diodegonewild

@wizzgamer Жыл бұрын

The IKEA 2450 are the best rechargeable batteries on the planet even beating Panasonic not bad for a furniture company.

@ThompYT Жыл бұрын

16:23 it was a LADDA testing?

@szabocsaba1984 6 ай бұрын

I have IKEA 2450 mAh batteries and bought an Energizer Recharge 1 Hour Charger and I've just noticed that on the batteries the standard charge is 245 mAh for 16 hrs. So my question is that is it safe to charge these batteries with the Energizer Recharge 1 Hour Charger? Does really the charger charging the batteries for 1 hr and it does not destruct the batteries life cycle or something?

@MrVladko0 3 ай бұрын

245 mAh is for dumb charger. Energizer 1 hour is smart. It will be safe.

@ninjafrozr8809 Жыл бұрын

Would it be ok if i used my Panasonic Eneloop charger to charge these ? I don't have access to an Ikea charger.

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

Yes. Any solid Ni-MH charger will work fine to charge these batteries.

@ninjafrozr8809 Жыл бұрын

@@TheCuriousEngineerChannel thanks

@joelkalin9764 9 ай бұрын

We use these all the time but one thing that nags me with the Ladda series is when they "cross out" in the charger (we have three Ikea chargers, two of the best and one simple). They seem to randomly just "x-out" in the chargers. Any idea why?

@TheLordstrider 2 ай бұрын

Shame that you never got an answer, what you had to do is buy a good quality charger. A charger that is able to refresh and revive rechargeable batteries. Hope it helps.

@joelkalin9764 2 ай бұрын

@@TheLordstrider Thanks.

@johnwhite2576 2 жыл бұрын

So the 2450 are superior vs the 1900 for hi demand situations? Can you give other examples beyodn say camera flashes ?

@AndrewBurrow-albcorp 2 жыл бұрын

I found the 1900s don't work in a Wii remote, while the 2450s do. So, unless I was unlucky with a defective 1900, there's another example

@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewBurrow-albcorp I presume it was a faulty 1900 cell.

@XYun1996 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, Could you help me for some question? Someone use your testing video tell other people that the Ikea Ladda 1900 is exactly same batteries as Eneloop ，is he right？ in my opinion ,you just say (their performance you have test） seems basically the same. am i right? if you can respond me,i will feel so happy，thank you. 😉

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Hah. I did not. I mentioned that they are of similar performance. Thanks for watching!

@XYun1996 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCuriousEngineerChannel thanks！

@sunriseshell 2 жыл бұрын

For what it's worth I've read elsewhere that if it's an NiMH that's made in Japan then it must be an Eneloop as there's only one factory there that still makes them, the rest are made in China. Considering the performance appears to be the same seems to support this theory. I haven't seen the packaging on the new ones, not sure if they're still MIJ.

@Winbiin 2 жыл бұрын

So, should I buy the new Ladda?

@irfanstudio_ 2 жыл бұрын

20:14 watch this part

@mirekdusin5881 2 жыл бұрын

Today I went to IKEA for the white ones and I saw that they are rebranded. The 1900 cost in Czech Republic just 4.5USD so I expected bad quality. But if they are like white eneloop, shut up and take my money 😀

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Do they look similar to the 1900 LADDAs in this video? Thanks for watching!

@mirekdusin5881 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCuriousEngineerChannel yes, probably the same. Thanks for video!

@TheRealJohnHooper 2 жыл бұрын

They are half the price of original Eneloop.. Its a deal!

@victoryisHis Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know how much in grams the Ikea AAA batteries weigh?😅

@Orion-redx7 Жыл бұрын

So are the eneloops better than the Ikeas, but the Ikea are better bang for buck?

@TheRealJohnHooper Жыл бұрын

Much better bang for the buck.. It also depends on the use case.. If you use them for your Xbox controller, remote, LED candles.. IKEA Jogging LED light.. That is where the extra quality might be worth it..

@sjokomelk Жыл бұрын

Ikea Ladda are Panasonic Eneloop with a different name on the outside, and half the price. But as someone else commented, they might also be from one of the other product lines Panasonic makes.

@chesshooligan1282 Жыл бұрын

How about LADA cars? Are they any good?

@TheCuriousEngineerChannel Жыл бұрын

I will only consider testing a LADA car that is powered by LADDA cells.

@mononcyoyo 9 ай бұрын

Good one! I thought of the car when I bought the LADDA cells! I both bought light gray AAs (1900mAh) and AAAs (750mAh) . I would like to see test results for the newer 900mAh AAAs.

@nicknaym1 2 жыл бұрын

ИКЕА смеётся над нами.

@raymonddube3876 2 жыл бұрын

You don't mention if there is any indication that the Ladda batteries are made in Japan or in China? Makes a big difference I think. Let us know and thanks for a very informative video!

@DaKo1989x 2 жыл бұрын

They are made in Japan. He showed the packaging in the last video.

@johnsmith-sk1ep 2 жыл бұрын

The new green AA ladda batteries are rubbish. I'm not an electrical engineer but from day 1 buying the 'green' I noticed something was off about these. I'm a big fan of the old white label AA batteries but the green ones are a scam. I ended up buying an opus 3100 so I could charge and discharge these and compare to standard eneloop and the old white batteries. What I found was that they will charge to about 2450 which is supposed to be their rating but within about a week they've lost about 20-30% of their capacity compared to the eneloop and 'white' batteries. From my observation, with this loss they perform no better than standard eneloop which is 1900. I've tested this numerous times with the same result. I set the mode so first they discharge and then charge and then check the mah to make sure it's closed to the rated capacity. Then set them aside and measure the voltage over a week, then put them back in the charger to charge. Looking the mah that went into the battery at this stage, the capacity of the green batteries has dropped quite a bit. I get the same effect when I time these using in the same load like a flashlight. They perform no better than standard eneloops but not nearly as well in the old white label AA batteries.

@TheRealJohnHooper Жыл бұрын

There is such a massive price difference.. 2022 4* Eneloop Pro AA cost 16 Euros on Amazon in my country (EU) while very similar performing Duracell Rechargeable AA 2500 cost only 8 Euro.. And Ladda 8 Euros.. Yes the LADDA still say Made in Japan.. But Panasonic has also other batteries.. Evoltas.. 2450 and 1900 mAh.. good low discharge, but not as good as the Eneloop Pro.. Maybe the new Ladda are B products Evolta.. Personally discharge is not that important to me because the batteries I charge, I use often.. I have both the white ones and the new grey ones.. I will charge both and hoepfully test them in a few months..

@TheRealJohnHooper Жыл бұрын

1 week? Ok I will test that..