We try. We like all the manufacturers that we deal with, but ultimately we owe our existence to our audience and so being honest with you ultimately outweighs our desire to be protective of our friends in the industry. No audience, no Bike Show. Manufacturers can (some have done, and still do) make it difficult for us to get their bikes to test if they don't like one of our opinions, but thankfully most are more enlightened these days. At least when we rave about a bike, you know we really mean it.

@@IgnitionBikeShow Saying every bike is perfect is lying. You guys make awesome funny entertaining and informative videos that are full of truth, sometimes other channels just feel like they wanna sell every bike from every manufacturer.

what was wrong with non r version can you conpare it to F900r ?

@@marek19922209 Two reasons made the major difference for me. The first thing is the seating position. The whole ergonomics feel more sporty on the R. When I ride my 890 Duke R I just feel like I am riding a serious motorcycle. In detail, I prefer the seating position of the R for following reasons. The footrests are higher and placed a bit further back to the rear, I also bought the factory footrests and placed it even more higher. They work very fine for me, also the look stunning. The handlebar on the R is flatter so you have to lean more forward, also the whole seat feels slightly higher. This is giving me a better feeling for the front wheel. In general, the ergonomics are just noticeably more sporty. The second thing, which is the more important for me, is the front brake. The brake on the R is stunning, the brake on the normal version is just doing the job without scaring you. I feel almost the same joy while braking when accelerating when riding my bike, because the brakes of the 890 Duke R are really great. So you just can say, if you like sporty motorcycles, you probably go better with the R, if you don’t need the sporty feeling you go perfectly with the normal version. It is just a matter of taste in my option. I am sorry, but I have never experienced the BMW F900R and I don’t want to tell anything which is maybe not true. I have read about it, that it is not a very sporty motorcycle, but as said, I don’t was to tell anything which is just based only on a review I’ve read.

@@phillippromann8976 i can only afford a 890 none r version is it still fun?

Yeah, great bike, nearly bought one myself during the last couple of weeks but travel and my natural Yorkshireness got in the way. Next year.

Appreciated muchly, thank you.

I've seen the 2022 890 duke gp. I assume that is in the middle of 890 and 890 r

I feel a little guilty. But I think you're making the right decision.

Worth it

Thanks James. Tell people!

Love the SMC, got a review of the 701SM Husky (same thing) coming up in the next week or so. Exceptional bike, if you live in an area where you're surrounded by such genuinely tight roads then yes, it's worth serious consideration. Or living in a city where the hairpins are around buildings instead of boulders. Otherwise it's an ideal second bike, but you need NOT to have any distance or pillion work on your riding horizon for it to be a first bike.

Thanking you, very kind.

IM GETTING 1 NEXT WEEK, HOWS YOU BIKE TREATING U SO FAR?

@@tenglin3584 hey, you are going to enjoy the ride...I am looking forward to riding as soon as the salt gets washed away. The electronics are great...I like not being able to get to far out of control. Anti wheeli, tire slip. Unlock track mode...it will unleash the beast.

In my contrie the price of the bike is the small thing. The ensurance cost of the 1290R is no way neer possible. I'm a happy owner of the 890R

We hear you. Do they?

I have the 890R and yes it's phenominal

I have the 890 adventure R and the 890 duke… that combo fills all the gaps and I get to ride literally anywhere. Both are such a joy to ride and I have so much fun on both…

Very limited numbers

I got the 890 Duke (non R).. it's great for commuting and touring. Pay the extra if you want for the R.

Next week as it happens, stick around.

Naaahhhh! I didn't start riding until I retired at 58. 7 years later, I'm so much better. Just do it!!

You ride both of the versions? He compares them, so there should be some truth

Do you guys get 690 smc r? That would be a weapon in the philippines. Ive got one here in australia. 110km speed limits and strict laws so thr 690 is good enough.

Yes, I think its possible to get a 690 smcr, or Huskey 701.

690 is a genuine option, but the new MT-09 is a genuinely good bike. I'm tempted to say it's a street 'great' but I just haven't spent enough time with it.

how?

Erm... don't understand. Whaddya mean?

Ha! Steady, they'll be coming for you...

Apart from few electrical issues, New KTM bikes are very reliable machines...If you havent riden a KTM in your life its really bad...Test a 890R or 1290 SDR, trust me they are the most funnest bike out there...

@@abymathew295 Never is a BIG word splodge. Great bikes, reliability for many is faultless. Every manufacturer has issues, every machine does, everything made by human hand or robot does too. More important is how the brand deals with any issues, and in my own experience KTM has always been good in that respect. No doubt some will argue with that as well, but as the truism goes: You can't please all of the people all of the time...

Ain't that the truth.