2021 production InMotion V11 REVIEWED!

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My favorite suspension electric unicycle rated based on my 5 Criteria. And I try hitting the same pothole that Caused my last CRASH! Will I survive??!
Episode 82- Took me a while but finally, my review of the production inmotion v11!
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@theeucguy 3 жыл бұрын

I was laughing so hard 😆 Forgot the charge port cover ✅ Forgot to flip up the stand ✅

@flashyflash7152 3 жыл бұрын

The v11 is my first euc coming from eskates. I was tired of feeling every imperfection on the roads in my city. I wanted comfort, range, and enough power to get me up the many hills I live around. Almost 1k miles and still love every ride.

@eucryan 3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome to hear.

@AlexanderNovikov 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same story long time evolve rider, tried different setups, AT wheels, range issues and etc and at the end switched to euc, but I chose ks s18, hope not to be disappointed, love it so far. good luck!

@BayBizzGrinder 3 жыл бұрын

So glad I went with this model as my first EUC THE BEST EXPERIENCE EVER!!!!

@GoG6138 3 жыл бұрын

Good review - thanks for revisiting this wheel. As someone who owns multiple wheels I can tell you: the V11 is AMAZING despite the bearing issue I had to deal with. Totally worth it. This thing is 'next gen' when compared to my MSP which is like an iPhone1 in comparison. Suspension is amazing and all wheels should have it, there is absolutely no downside. People who whine about it being 'too complicated' don't know what they are talking about - after 2500km I've never had an issue. The benefits of suspension FAR outway the cost. We need more suspension wheels! Whoever first releases a 20" suspension whee that can compete with the Sherman will get all my money.

@freestyler7 3 жыл бұрын

Pro tip by crazyCRO: pressing the lift switch and the power button at the same time, toggles the day running lights!

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

you must have bigger hands than I do! cuz I can't reach that far while holding onto the lift button!

@darkstar4494 3 жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC couldn’t you use 2 hands for that? I’m confused.

@EUC-lid 3 жыл бұрын

@@darkstar4494 Hsiang is always holding a monopod in his off-hand. This is obvious if you've ever seen a video of his.

@darkstar4494 3 жыл бұрын

@@EUC-lid I see, you think he was talking about whether he could demonstrate on camera. I guess that makes sense although a tripod could free up his other hand or whatever

@euc_sharkman 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never been impressed with InMotion’s offerings in the past. I always felt the limitations they put on their wheels limited the growth of the EUC community as a whole. You get a powerful new wheel in the Sherman, and then boom...EUC community grows so much. But the v11 and upcoming v12 is where InMotion has come around. Now you got respectable performance and a luxury car refinement that gives them a distinct style. Props to them and can’t wait to see your episode on the v12!

@ceradinimp 3 жыл бұрын

I love my v11. First wheel and it was a little intimidating at first, but now its very manageable and getting easier with every ride (I only have 23 miles on it). It is very smooth and gives you confidence it'll go where you want.

@guppynbetta4594 2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered mine yesterday. It's a good thing I got mine during this time in Minnesota, with all the snow. I won't be riding it much, but I mean, it will be my first ride. So I won't be putting much miles on it.

@user-bu5wv6jm7z 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for your hard work and good views and interesting ideas!

@ThaBlackCobra 3 жыл бұрын

Great review Hsiang. I’m still loving my V11

@RealMikeDobbs 3 жыл бұрын

Been looking forward to this one- watching as soon as I get home 👍

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

@phd1313 3 жыл бұрын

Again a solid video! BTW: You are the reason I bought my first Ninebot Z10. When I hear your voice in Asian American dialect I get all nostalgic ;). Thinking about the V11 for my next wheel. Greetings from the Netherlands.

@Kamikazekman 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this review! Great work mate. We literally have carbon copy V11’s. Black CPs with upgraded inMotion pedals (and seat). I did chuckle a bit seeing your exposed charging ports and I un-retracted stand! Looking forward to your next vid! 👍🏽

@adamszitas9925 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice representation of my favorite wheel. Thanks

@ShantiHikes 3 жыл бұрын

I love my Cadillac V11 and I'm always tuning around to make it even better than it is, hence, I absolutely agree with your conclusions.

@johncraftenworth7847 3 жыл бұрын

Wow clarkpads really help the looks of the wheel!

@FatherDave 3 жыл бұрын

I just received my v11 and like you, I find it a great wheel. My KS16s is getting no love. Heavier than I thought and my first 18inch wheel. How did you like it without the Clark pads? I ordered their v3 pads, but those are about 7 weeks away. Great video, editing, transitions, music. You keep it entertaining and informative. I love your euc videos please keep it up. Good job getting back on the saddle and protecting your ribs this time

@ostumbling 3 жыл бұрын

V11 is my first wheel. I love the comfort of the suspension and it is definitely fast enough for me as a first time rider.

@JoaoPauloDev 2 жыл бұрын

You're the best... Always when a search for one of those beauties I come here... I love the Z10 but I think that's in the past, this one is much more worth the money... Thank you for the funny and very informative review, as always!!!! When I'm in NYC maybe we can meet in person cheers!!!

@laurent4363 3 жыл бұрын

I had to replace the motor, bearings problem, since then I had no other problems with it, very happy with V11

@BruceWayne15325 10 ай бұрын

I've been scouring KZfaq videos about different entry-level commuter EUC's and this one ticks all my boxes. Great review, thanks! I typically drive 20 miles a day, and travel between 25-35mph (I've found this is the sweet spot between speed / fun on my scooters. Anything faster is begging for a Darwin award, and anything slower you might as well ride a bicycle). I'm currently using scooters, and only using my car for long distance travel or large shopping trips, but my scooters are useless in the winter, so I'm hoping an EUC will change that.

@frozenwalkway 3 жыл бұрын

Video looking sharp bro

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@OCDRex11 3 жыл бұрын

V12 will be amazing me thinks! Great vid. Seems like an "everyman" kind of EUC. You aren't really buying it for anything specific yet is does everything well.

@patrickmckowen2999 3 жыл бұрын

Good review 👍

@WensWorld 3 жыл бұрын

Love my v11 and will love my v12!

@fearceigknighter Жыл бұрын

V11 is my second EUC after owning the Kingsong s18 for about two years. Both good wheels.

@Surf422 3 жыл бұрын

I would buy a V11 but man if you read this thread there is a surprising amount of ppl who have had problems with the bearings and the board

@fernandollambias8713 3 жыл бұрын

All the wheels have a lot of problems !! I am still recovering from a shoulder fracture, due to several Cut's off !! Battery problems, board ones , mosfets burning...........etc etc etc !!!!! Let's wait till japan gets interested in research !! Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha,Suzuki or German BMW !!!!! Not an interesting market !!

@evXNYC 3 жыл бұрын

oh looks like you found your stoke!! ;)

@josepharndt6061 9 ай бұрын

I can’t wait to learn how to drive it

@dacvietnguyen 3 жыл бұрын

bravo ! for your video on V11. I ve got one 1 montth since 1 month, and riding is so confortable. Come to Paris and ride together !

@hhead56 3 жыл бұрын

A good all rounder thanks.

@sebastianrex8856 3 жыл бұрын

Duudeee the stand! 😮😮😮

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

LOL yeah I am always forgetting to pull it up!

@TheEVside 3 жыл бұрын

Great video

@FinnBjerke 3 жыл бұрын

Kudos and respect mate. You bloody well rule, get back on the horse you fell off. I really respect that. Your reviews combine witt, good info, quality filming and a great sense of humour. I watch all your videos. Dont forget to flip the stand and close the charge port. ... The stand thingy is not very good but you can DIY improve it. The seat gives you acceleration options since you can squeeze the seat you your knees and force more tilt faster. Its very good also for braking power.... Seat is bloody expensive but its worth it and eliminates the need for sidepads methinks. Studded footpads is extremely good value for money. Safer and faster. Thx again mate. PS: You are a great communicator so if you feel like showing us New York also in a ride and talk fashion that would be very interesting too.

@bluzta2 3 жыл бұрын

So hard to pull the trigger cause of all the new improvements coming out

@souperdooperman 3 жыл бұрын

For real man, I was sure I was gonna get a suspension wheel next, specifically the V11 but now I’m waiting to see the V12

@Sehyo 3 жыл бұрын

@@souperdooperman V12 doesnt have suspension :(

@Askhat08 3 жыл бұрын

@@souperdooperman V12 is a speed demon, it's not a competitor for V11, they're in different classes.

@souperdooperman 3 жыл бұрын

@@Askhat08 oh yeah, after seeing that it was gonna be a suspension-less fast wheel I opted to wait till maybe the second generations of them and just go for the fast Inmotion. My first wheel is a V8 and I like their build quality (mines taken a lot of beatings) so if it can actually go as fast as a GotWay with Inmotion quality I’d get that over the v11 since I’ve been craving more speed

@souperdooperman 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sehyo yeah, a speedy Inmotion is enough for me to postpone getting a suspension wheel. It’ll give everyone more time to work out more of the suspension kinks too.

@OldSloGuy 7 ай бұрын

I am an older rider with a 65 lb Nikola AR+. That wheel is as heavy as I want to haul up stairs or carry very far or even wrestle into the back of a SUV. The V11Y is almost the same weight and thus in consideration for my suspension wheel. The so called half-bikes have speed, range and comfort on the road or trail, but they are a pain to wrestle with your feet on the ground.

@TangDynasty1983 3 жыл бұрын

Can you share the model of your body armor? Thanks.

@PanAndrii 3 жыл бұрын

Niice review

@sam-yau 3 жыл бұрын

Two small improvements that Inmotion could add to their next gen suspension wheel would be a magnetic flap holder for the charging port cover and a spring loaded kickstand. Watching people ride around with either or both of those hanging around all loosey goosey is such a buzzkill. Nice review though!

@ThePootedhard 3 жыл бұрын

Having a more stable kickstand that wont tip over from a light brush would be good too.

@TheParentalRevolution 3 жыл бұрын

I love mine so much

@electric-rider 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Hsiang. Thanks for with review. I agree with you. I’ve just bought a V11 and I’m still discovering it. Could you share your settings and why you choose them ? I’ve found real differences between all Inmotion app’s settings and I’d like to share with other riders

@Ronin_Ryder 3 жыл бұрын

Had it for a day... Delivered with a defect and ended up returned after a month at the repair center. 4 months waiting after pre-order wasted. I still miss its suspension though....

@ZenLee 3 жыл бұрын

V11 my favorite suspension wheel under 60lbs :) wish it was easier to get parts for it, been 5 months now still waiting on a control board from eWheels/Inmotion.

@embededfabrication4482 9 ай бұрын

why are control boards failing!? inmotion products are junk, the electronics aren't reliable, my V11 is a boat anchor an it's not even year and half old, no crashes either. beware

@brocmt 3 жыл бұрын

I recently saw a video (that has unfortunately since gone private, otherwise I'd post the link) where a V11 owner was illustrating water in the motor, and loose motor windings. From what I understand, the bearings aren't adequately sealed, I dunno how it got away with an IPX55 rating. First week of owning it, I crashed my S18 into a ditch with runoff flowing fast all through it... no ill effects, one month later. I'd still like to try a V11, but after seeing some of the issues folks have been reporting, I dunno if I'd buy one. I'm happy with the punch of my S18, and the range is adequate enough. I do have a new tire coming for it, the IRC TR-1 in 2.75-14. I'd love to see more wheels with suspensions, though. The streets of my small town are rough, the sidewalks aren't much better, and the hills are pretty steep. I dunno if anything bigger would survive here without a suspension.

@Zanzo7 3 жыл бұрын

i bought the first back v11, rode it for 2k miles before the bearing went, getting it replaced now, but this euc is so awesome i just put a deposit on another one :D

@rentedduckliing 3 жыл бұрын

How much was it to get fixed?

@Zanzo7 3 жыл бұрын

@@rentedduckliing it was replaced under warranty

@scottmorris7320 2 жыл бұрын

R Sci, what sort of riding do you do and what is the best riding for the V11

@Zanzo7 2 жыл бұрын

@@scottmorris7320 I ride in the city, I think the v11 is the best for all the bumps and uneven roads

@scottmorris7320 2 жыл бұрын

@@Zanzo7 thanks R Sci

@PaulA-pm3gx 3 жыл бұрын

Nice review. Waiting for KS to announce their new wheel. Hoping it's the S18 with bigger battery, more range, more power, 100V, speakers... Looks very daunting to be riding in NY with so much traffic and terrible roads. Great vid, look forward to the next one, thanks.

@gamittv259 Жыл бұрын

i think what happened before regarding the previous crash is the kick stand, in this video it shows that your kickstand is down and near to your tire

@Papalou1234 3 жыл бұрын

just on time for me to comment here! I had ride my friend v11 this saturday.from a Msx/tesla v2/nikola perspective i agree with confort and smootness ride and amazing how light weight and thin design it is a very high quality feel euc no doubts about that.but for me suspension is not a must have because of 2 important elements the suspension does not eat all bumps ans the battery is not really enough for my need i did 25km maybe i am all wrong but that is my opinion

@dasshorts7800 3 жыл бұрын

I like my Sherman lights PRECISELY because it’s a radiant middle finger.

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

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@DamianLewd 3 жыл бұрын

Damn bro I forgot to use your link for the Sherman

@user-eu1fd6lq3l 2 жыл бұрын

V11好还是V12好？有什么区别？

@salkhseth2571 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, do u need any license to ride euc in NY?

@davidkordylas9746 3 жыл бұрын

i love your jacket ,

@RealMikeDobbs 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid as always! I LOVE my V11, and have been toying with the idea of getting some clark pads. I ride with a staggered stance (left front forward); will that be possible with the clark pads on the V11? It looks like they screw into the wheel, so you can't mount one more forward than the other.

@KirbySwinemar 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike - I watched AlienRides (Kevin) mount then with Velcro on the latest Monster Pro ... and they come apart so you can size them for the thickness of your legs wearing protective gear .. copy and paste "Gotway Monster Pro Electric Wheel | Longest Range Electric Unicycle!" .. go to 4:20 mark and you'll see what he does with them.

@very9000 3 жыл бұрын

Super 🔥👍👍👍🔥 My favorite❤️ V11

@901Babyboy 3 жыл бұрын

Man said pothole n had me like Oh he goin to the spital 😂🤣😂🤣

@klerkan 3 жыл бұрын

No problems with the ball bearing on this batch / model ? I'm waiting for batch 4, hope it's no problem with them.

@very9000 3 жыл бұрын

friend, you are handsome. Cool great video on the track on the V11 👍🔥

@el1061 2 жыл бұрын

that always gets me " EHN - ZUU - ZEE- eSS " ( ENTHUSIAST) LMAO love ur content dont change

@robinblackman4509 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Hsiang .....one of your clips I can see you riding with the kickstand down....you have the black and white long coat on ! Was you wearing this upon your crash ? Was the kickstand the cause??

@vladislavslunecko6597 3 жыл бұрын

is this particular wheel somehow upgraded? pedals for example? or is this how you get the last version from stock? is there any way to recognise the lastest version? just bought one on aliexpress and it's supposed to be the last version, wanna make sure :) thanks!

@roywlogan 3 жыл бұрын

Could you include a glimpse under the shell in future reviews? The lack of water sealing, battery protection and overall build quality gets pretty bad with some eucs that look good on the outside.

@Ryezn5057 3 жыл бұрын

I was going to try to get the Tesal v2 or v3 (when released) would this be a better option? I think it's more expensive and heavy.

@julsride3596 3 жыл бұрын

Weird . I been thinking about this wheel recently. All i can see are pics of this wheel everywhere

@abdulharerimana4073 3 жыл бұрын

Hi , what do you call this item you fitted on V11 that you fit your leg on above foot plate ?

@no1up 3 жыл бұрын

Still going back and forth on the v11 or s18

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

V11 for comfort and day to day use, S18 if you want performance agility and off road.

@MissDaisyTheRacoon 2 жыл бұрын

Ok... I'm glad that I'm not the only one who forgets to put the kickstand up from time to time. @6:14. But the fact that it doesn't interfere with the EUC at all is what I love about it. However, I just got my V11 3 days ago, and I'm getting a Battery Voltage Abnormal warning. ⚠ Any suggestions? Should I just exchange it?

@nelsonabreuu 3 жыл бұрын

v11 or 16x for firts EUC beginner long range ?? wich one u choice ??

@PwaPwaFamily 3 жыл бұрын

Hello @Hsiang, do you have a video about what helmet to use ? To protect both head and face :)

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! I do have a safety video where I talk about things to watch out for, but nothing specific on helmet. Generally I would suggest matching it to the kind of speed and rides you do, if you push the upper end of the speed limit, you should probably buy a motorcycle helmet design for higher speed crash, but if you just do 20-25mph rides then a bicycle helmet should be fine.

@steveo6034 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer a bike seat attached directly to the trolley handle, V11 is such a nice riding wheel. Its a shame Inmotion is having so many problems with the bearings...

@Timemachine69 Жыл бұрын

I said I won’t get V11 until I can ride backward and go in circles and figure 8’s backwards … why is riding backwards like starting all over learning how to ride again 😢

@TheDownloader86 3 жыл бұрын

I ordered GW Tesla T3 - the same specs, but half the price. That is 5/5 value :D. V11 looks really amazing, but the pedals are so damm high, that is no problem for the ride?

@darkstar4494 3 жыл бұрын

If you like the Tesla that’s great but in a different category from v11. v11 pedal height isn’t a problem you just get used to it.

@WeirdEarRaub 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder aloud if you forget to put up the kickstand, or if you find it to be just fine down (no clipping on curbs?) cheers!

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

LOL yes curb is a problem when you forget to pull up the kickstand.. I wish there were a spring action that pulls the kickstand up when you lift the wheel straight.

@WeirdEarRaub 3 жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC just start and stop a bunch, it’ll become second nature (after a day of doordash, it did for me)

@-racingfan2014 3 жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC I bought new kickstand holders from Hulaj market. Just arrived. Will prevend kickstand to be able to touch wheel. Ride in NYC too but take bikelanes and go slow. Really need suspension on these bad roads here.

@maneeoocho350 2 жыл бұрын

What would you compare the torque of the v11 to?

@marin8757 3 жыл бұрын

What accesories did you use on the v11?

@jamess1340 2 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking of buying one of those. Can you ride it over the bridge into Staten Island or jersey?

@OWGAC 2 жыл бұрын

You can’t ride in the traffic lane but you can take the bike lane, so for Staten Island you’ll have to take the ferry, which would be easy to do since a uni are easy to take on and off all kind of public transport

@talknroll6499 3 жыл бұрын

V11 👍

@todd5963 3 жыл бұрын

I am curious what you think about a 16-in wheel with suspension. I'm a smaller rider and I have rode an 18-in before and it just feels too big. 14 feels too small. Do you think King Kong will come out with it one first?

@Sehyo 3 жыл бұрын

King Kong 🤣

@todd5963 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sehyo stupid auto correct 😂

@viniciussilvaferreira4421 10 ай бұрын

Do you guys prefer the v11 or v12 ht?

@robertswanson6774 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy your helmet

@bluzta2 3 жыл бұрын

Hello .. I like your helmet..can you tell me where I can get one?????

@Debodegacat 3 жыл бұрын

What’s the vest your using ?

@stevescott5858 3 жыл бұрын

Does the seat come with it?

@patrickmckowen2999 Жыл бұрын

👍

@artemiy1920 3 жыл бұрын

30 miles is not much for modern EUC. Doing ~45 on the Sherman in one good weekend ride.

@duperfastEUC 3 жыл бұрын

My buddy purchased the V11 and had to return it cause it just died out of nowhere. Only 15miles on the clock

@eucryan 3 жыл бұрын

Bummer. What wheel did he get as replacement?

@CrunchyTire 2 жыл бұрын

Been riding my V12 in the rain and it rides just fine, but man my backpack and the wheel body itself just gets covered in mud and crap. Just filthy. I might have to resort to the scooter for rainy days.

@josephgadoury1057 3 жыл бұрын

What is the brand of Helmet you are wearing?

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

check my vid description

@artofwaron2wheelsthe2nd44 3 жыл бұрын

7.40...riding w kick stand down ?🤷‍♀️🤦‍♂️ that's bad right ? ;)

@very9000 3 жыл бұрын

Friend, tell me why you fell from V11 sometime? 🤔🤔🤔

@raider2467 3 жыл бұрын

Вау ,спасибо что включаешь русские субтитры

@Spideylee23 3 жыл бұрын

2:34 🤣 the biker went from I'm not gonna be beaten by somebody on a FU******* unicycle..... Geeze...wtf... I'll let him win.

@lawlaxinaakayourfavorite 3 жыл бұрын

pop over the potholes bro!! Its safer!!

@merino6260 3 жыл бұрын

This is AWD?? XD

@4406bbldb 3 жыл бұрын

Hope your affiliates are truthful.

@AndreiPetunin 3 жыл бұрын

Ordered in November, four to five months in and still waiting.

@scottsum1319 3 жыл бұрын

Bro, I'm not sure what you've strapped on to your chest but if its not a bulletproof vest, I'm assuming its a chest (& hopefully back as well) protector. I got nothing against protection but if it were me, I'd go the elbow/forearm/knee route 1st. Doing chest but not aforementioned is kinda like putting the cart before the horse. Not a big V11 fan myself so I'll be awaiting your V12 details.

@swiftadventurer 3 жыл бұрын

another way of thinking... elbow/forearm/knees will break and heal, but a car door opened suddenly impacting straight in the sternum could be lethal. Waiting to see what the V12 looks like too.

@scottsum1319 3 жыл бұрын

@@swiftadventurer Ahhh I see. Nevertheless, I've not as yet heard of any one on an EUC with a caved in sternum but there's always a 1st. Why I didn't I think of it...nahhh, stats are I'm 100% (so far) more likely to fruck my elbows, knees & hands so I'm a gonna stick to the well proven routine.

@Surf422 3 жыл бұрын

If i fall forward I'm more worried about my stomach and my crotch than my chest. There is a dude on youtube who nosedived on his Onewheel and it pulled his pants down and gave him road rash on his genitals

@farbmixus 3 жыл бұрын

In Deutschland we say: Führerschein weg!

@eunistroll 3 жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@no1up 3 жыл бұрын

So v11 for a guy just wants a reliable, safe, comfortable, fun toy to enjoy with rides with friends? Or the S18... I'm not looking to hard-core use, jump, tricks. I love the s18 look, but the v11 seems to take every other category.

@OWGAC 3 жыл бұрын

I think so, its more comfortable, faster, longer ranged, and the better head light is huge at night. I think its all around a better wheel for casual use.

@no1up 3 жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC have they fixed the bearing issue as of July 2021?

@TheEconomicElder 3 жыл бұрын

i bought the v11 as my first wheel. i'm disappointed, i thought there was going to be way more torque. that said, it may be that all e-unicycles are lackluster

@nsblite1 3 жыл бұрын

No you must try a gotway Nicola plus super fast

@Mpower31 3 жыл бұрын

The sensation of torque is definitely much stronger on an esk8 for example. On the euc you leaning forward kind of cancels it out a bit. If you want torque sensation you'd be better off with either an escooter or esk8

@Roskellan 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but I just don't like it, never ridden one, never ridden the opposition, not done enough miles on anything to make an informed decision, but hey whose spending the money? Well not even that actually.

@amanp5249 2 жыл бұрын

i just learnt on the 16x and the v11 is trash compared to 16x. it was so terrible i never want to ride a v11 again.. the v11 i rode on was also brand new., 16x unlocks happiness but some people might enjoy the constant pain in the ass that is v11. 16x amazing