Agreed

Good looking? Did you skip interior of the car? Its plastic and crap

Because it wasn't the same bang for buck, as the old one. It went from offering Ferrari like performance for half the moeny, to being priced like a Ferrari and being slower than a Ferrari.

you can get a 911 GT3, 911 Turbo or Audi R8 for around the same price. All of which are far better cars overall. That’s the problem.

A mini 918 Spyder. Not a bad thing.

Why do you Think we dont have a GtR r36 yet? The Prototype of it was hated from top to bottom because “it didnt look like a Gtr” and so on.. so sad some amazing cars get rejected like this..

IKR?

Why do you think revised versions of old cars like that are still being made? Because the community loved the old ones and supported both the company and the product. They better pay homage to what came before, because without it, the new version wouldn’t exist. A huge part of how these new versions can even remotely exist is purely because people love the old ones.

​@@John-Wack_DK no nissan is just broke the gtr lead designer wants to make one, Nissan is strapped for cash that's why the new Z is also basically the old one underneath

@@ShaiyanHossain not true.. but whatever not here to discuss things.

Blessings to your family and you man . 💯

You can daily drive anything people are just lame and would rather look at a car rather than drive it

This should just be in the sports car category. Calling this a super car doesn't make sense. The price is OUTRAGEOUS

Do you still have that car?

Sadly, I don't have either one. As for learning how to drive, until they let blind guys drive it is not going to be a possibility. Of the two that he owned, I would rather have the 2017 model. Having said all of this, and reading all the comments, I would still much rather own this car than any of the other super cars that are out on the market now. I think the quality is a lot higher, from what my dad explained to me I would think that the drivability is also a lot better.

Its a looker.

The Honda effect.

Rich people didn't like it enough. 99.999% of people wouldn't ever consider a car like this

@@rdubs1705 Yup. The people who appreciated it couldn't afford it. The ones who could didn't like it.

Several reasons Because the OG one is too successful, It is not a real JDM It is too expensive

Well Jay Leno do like it. And i know he is really "rich"

That's probably because it was a Japanese 'me too!' car that tried to keep up with Italian cars that resulted in an uninteresting, uninspired, _uninspiring_ car that was overpriced for what it was. Japanese car companies ought to stick to what they're good at: building soulless workaday grocery getter sedans.

Thanks, that intro keeps getting longer

Thanks for saving from my usual Doug routine. Oh cool MC20! +10 seconds +10 seconds +10 seconds +10 seconds +10 seconds +10 seconds

Thank you! Definitely helped out

29:24 Doug being Doug

doing the work Doug refuses to do to keep his channel good.

I've only seen them at the dealer. WAY smaller than I expected

Thank god there is only so many of them out there. Id puke to see it. Imagine only being hyped for the exterior esthetics, while u get rotten inside design

😂😂 Love the energy lol

@@klemenkovacic9109 Lmao, what's your opinion on Garboghini's or Trashrarris?

He did say on Reddit it was due to negative feedback from viewers (it taking too long) but I agree with you, I did not mind it at all.

@@-10 Interesting, I guess to each their own of course! But you could always skip it.. and it was regularly only a couple minutes, which relative to a 20-40 min video isn't too bad.

I usually disagree with the dougscores or the system itself so I don't really care. His system doesn't have anything accounting for price upfront and cost of ownership, which is by far the biggest factor for normal consumers.

It never bothered me, I'd rather have it back.

@@furyofbongos Agree

It should've been cheaper then it would've been perfect

Nope. It should be: no hybrid, much lighter, cheaper. Nothing more.

@@jareknowak8712 a manual option too

@@B0F True. 6 speed.

it looks good, but this is the last version, why make a type S? should have gone all out and made a type R

The original NSX sold about 1200 units per year. The new one sold about 280 per year. On average. The original was subjectively good looking but certainly a simple elegant bargain. The new one I don't think looks as good, its also complicated and expensive. I think the thing that heard it most was the fact that it's just ugly. I know that's an opinion but I think that's an opinion shared by most would be buyers.

@CalvinHikes the problem with the new nsx is that it does pretty much the same thing as what the original nsx in an era where nobody care about it anymore. The original nsx isn't even that good looking COMPARE TO IT'S COMPETITION back then, it was not fast compare to the competition back then but it offer reliability and comfortability that other supper car of the same era does not which make it as famous as it's currently. The new nsx pretty much does the same thing as it's predecessor but in an age where most supper car are already comfortable to ride, it doesn't really stand out as much. Also if we adjust for inflation, the new gen nsx is price on the same range at the old one so it's not even cheaper

Agreed. Just seeing a score is pointless now if you don't know the reasoning behind it.

100%. I need him to bring that back.

Totally, doug score is useless otherwise

Doug’s not the sharpest golf ball in the snake, but he knows his analytics. That’s why he developed an auction site instead of pushing stickers and shirts. A lot of people jump to another video halfway through the DS on older videos.

ive gotta say, i only stay to see about 5% the dougscores

All of that with an Acura badge too. i8 was pretty shit but at least you're driving a BMW

@@GuacPapi You’re driving a BMW ain’t sayin much! 😒

@@GuacPapi i8 is a beauty. Love the design. Just dont talk about the engine :-)

@@GuacPapi With a 3 cil and a Turbo . Yeah no , Buy then Porsche .

Through the prism of time this NSX will become an instant classic and their value will skyrocket from orphan to rock star status.

I mean having a manual non hybrid supercar in these days is being a little too reminiscent of the past.

@@eskay6666 I guess if "the past" means becoming almost one with the car whilst driving.... I'll live there. Wouldn't trade my 99 Kaiser Targa for this car any day. They never should have named this car NSX.. I get my X serviced at the local independent Honda guru. Engine and stick shift... nothing fancy.. nothing finer. (OK a HUD and more power would be nice). I haven't driven everything, But the 1st gen NSX is an unreal "driving" experience... fancy display changes and sport mode be damned. Plus the 2nd gen looks too much like the new vette. Styling lacks... 1st gen is eternally gorgeous and unique.

@@DakTirCue this might be one of the worst comments I’ve ever seen. This car came out 3 years before the new vette 😂 you are just completely clueless and should get off of KZfaq

@@skeats20001 This is a 2022 model and the new changes are very Corvette

I don’t think we will ever see 120k super cars especially with soccer moms driving around in 50k+ mini vans nowadays

@easy-e neither can you

@easy-e lmao okay buddy sure how bout u just go on somewhere with your life besides a KZfaq comment section calling a kid broke who clearly stated the price is stupid high for what is it you can faster and better cars for half the price 😂🤣

Nah, it suffers from the "stunt" problem. People, unfortunately, will never see Japanese cars as anything other than ecoboxes. Rappers, influences, rich pricks, etc don't ever stunt in a lexus or a acura/honda. It's always Raris, lambos, Mclarens, Mercs, Bimmers, etc. The only ones who care about these cars are Japanese enthusiasts, and there aren't enough of them. Being seen in an NSX is whatever, being seen in a Ferrari is kewl, and matches your gucci wallet and gucci glasses and charcuterie board.

@easy-e ever heard about importing?

I’ll never understand why people complain about the performance. It is literally faster to 60mph than an Aventador, 488, Huracan, GTR, or R8 V10. It costs around the same as a 992 Carrera 4S which is significantly slower to 60, slower over a quarter mile, and comparable in lap time (at worst) on any track. A 2017 NSX has the straight line performance comparable to a new $380,000 Lambo Aventador for half the price, how is that poor performance or value?

I believe that was always part of the ethos of the NSX; it's a supercar, but it is still a comfortable and reliable Honda that can be a daily driver.

@@HubbAeroplane But the old one at least looked like a supercar.

@@HubbAeroplane Just don't go to Costco in one, they're too easy to fill up!

@@HubbAeroplane Yep! I daily mine.

@@kaisersoymilk6912 The NC1 looks more like a supercar than either the NA1 or NA2. Get your eyes checked LOL

mainly the cost, if it was in the price range of the corvette or the Nissan gtr it would've sold so much

same here. I LOVE it and I love it even more with the type s

@@uglyjihad but the GTR is an overpriced relic, I don’t mean to disrespect The God but for the fact that they are still selling the 15yrs old for over £100K with outdated tech and not much performance in modern standards. Godzilla will always be Godzilla but it’s over priced

Price was the main reason. At the time it came out it was close to a Turbo/Turbo S in price but lacked in performance compared to them. It really didn't fit anywhere in the price for performance category.

Yeah, just like the MK4 Supra, no one want to buy an expensive Toyota back then, but now it's a desirable car

Did he steal it?

The c8 made me feel like that. Cameras don't do these cars justice

@@destroy_television I think he said “saw a black one in person” not “saw a black person in one”

@@destroy_television Ur like 30 years old being racist on the internet, weirdo

@@kalanhitchens8782 First time I've seen a C8 in Europe seeing from afar I thought that it was a Ferrari approaching. Looked really stunning to me, especially since US cars are rare in these parts.

Honestly I won't ever understand the hate. "OMG it doesn't have a manual", yeah, because back when the NSX was originally made, that was THE performance option, now we have much more robust and high end automatics which are better fitted to fast accelerating cars like this. If they made a new mid engine, NA, manual V6, it would be more like an MR2 replacement.

The infotainment system should be one's last concern, this thing is made to be driven hard. Also, thank god they didn't include adaptive cruise control, I find it to be rather annoying, albeit dangerous in some situations

yeah, but why would I even consider this car when the C8 exists? Don’t say reliability because I’m not going to accept that an LS is less reliable than a hybrid system from Honda.

@@giovannicazares3110 I would prefer the type S. The GTR doesnt do it for me aesthetically.

Agreed. If I had $160-200k to spend on a car I'd have a hard time spending it on an Acura. Like you said they should have aimed for a Corvette price range if they really wanted it to take off.

this car is faster than the huracan

@@ChuckisNorrish it's not about the performance that this car lacks. It's the prestige. Not prestige to car enthusiasts who know a good car when they see one. Prestige to other wealth-off people who see the Acura name as lower tier than the other luxury names. It's like how no matter how better technically Android phones are compared to iPhones, the general public will always view iPhones as the phones to get.

@@remyd8767 then just consider this car a hidden gem, high production quality, fast, its a good attempt at acura to show the people they arent messing around

Thank you!

Many other options at that price point.

hybrid v6 is nasty for almost 200k US

Amazing styling? Obviously this is subjective, but styling is the primary reason these don't sell. I've seen one in person, and it just doesn't look "$200k", maybe half that at most. Certainly not "beautiful" like so many of the italian competitors are. Aside from not looking that good, it's also just not interesting to look at. Quick glance and walked on, no pictures.

@@poppachoppa8956 The Mclaren Artura is a V6 hybrid supercar for more money, the Ferrari 296 GTB is another v6 hybrid supercar for way more money, sorry but your argument is just not all that valid

@@alwaysiyi272 the ferrari has 800hp tho (italian hp, but still)

I think it just looks plain. It's indistinguishable compared to the C8 Vette, Aston, McLarens, etc. They're all cool and perform well. But they "look the same." The OG NSX had a very unique look that set it apart.

I dont get why this would be desirable in the future. When all things go electric i would assume that whatever is furthest from that will be most desirable, not some old tech hybrid-v6 automatic. I think these will age like fine milk.

As an owner of a '95 Integra SE with nearly 300,000 miles and virtually no mechanical problems, I was excited about the new "Integra." Now, the more I find out about it, I'm really disappointed. I'm also the owner of a 2003 Honda Civic Si with nearly 300,000 miles on it and, again, virtually no mechanical problems. C'mon, Honda/Acura! We expect more from a new Integra than we can get from the Canadian Civic Si! This is not a worthy successor to any Integra. Who are you fooling, besides yourself?

The Integra hurts to look at.

@@Timoastra everything going Electric isn't in our lifetime

@@Chinese_Chicken how old are you

Horizon Zero Dawn went on to sell over 20 million units it was a huge success for a brand new AAA game

@@f181234 yeah, and that's great, until you realize that it's main competition was Breath of the Wild, one of the most beloved games of the last 20 years. Zero dawn did well, but from what I hear it had the makings of a blockbuster and ended up a cult following. Point is, zero dawn MIGHT have been bigger, if they'd just announced it at a different time, because those two games have a lot of demographic crossover. We'll never know though. Definitely not shade towards Zero Dawn though.

WTF are you saying? Horizon Zero Dawn, the highly successful and critically lauded, downright fantastic game which has become a cornerstone and one of the major faces for Playstation first party games including a sequel on the PS5? You're not making any sense.

@@cenciende9401 there's literally articles about this phenomenon, it's not just Horizon Zero Dawn, it's all kinds of stuff. It's just like, a new shooter gets released during the COD hype season. Maybe the new shooter doesn't die and grows, but it might have been strong from the start if players weren't playing the new cod. I'm not saying Horizon Zero Dawn flopped bruh. Next time i'll just say "bad market timing" instead of using an example, christ.

@@geoff3610 HZD and BOTW aren’t even competitors. That’s like comparing gran tuismo to Mario Kart lol

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this car looks like a civic.

@@shmayton this looks like a Civic. Everything looks like a Civic. You look like a Civic. The Civic looks like a Civic. The Integra looks like a Civic. Seriously though, does a two-door mid-engine supercar look like a compact car milked by ricers to you?

GAAAAAAY!

@@shmayton It is made by the same company after all.The R8 very much looks like a regular Audi, especially the lights, but nobody's saying that.

The storage is Okay, but it's Far Behind a C8 Corvette or even a Porsche 911.

Ha!

Gen 1 or gen 2?

@@johnyang1420 gen 1

did sang chi come to work sometimes?

Me too haha! NSX is my favorite car I’ve ever parked! Great job

I agree. The purpose of the nsx is innovation and experimentation. It did so at the time of the original nsx and by just doing the same thing again it wouldn’t have lived up to its namesake. If people got what they “wanted” which is a old school an engine with a manual transmission then there wouldn’t be anything new or experimental about the car. It would just be old and traditional. Times have changed and so has technology. Many of the vocal car enthusiast on the internet seem to be stuck in the past and anything new or innovative is heresy and dogma. It’s odd because tech enthusiasts on the other hand are fanatic about the bleeding edge and rarely would you have someone wish they made computers like the amigas or commodores of the 80s. I like the new nsx and I do think the price was a bit much. But I am also able to understand that Honda was trying to bring technology seen in 700k+ supercars downstream and down market. As far as I know there is not another car that is like the modern nsx.

Really well said to both of you!

I'm amazed some people understand what the nsx actually Is

Well, they were chasing the trends of the times even with the first NSX, luckily for them those trends were better than today's.

They were part of the trend push. One more expensive ugly hybrid after a run of other cheaper ugly hybrids. Honda and the rest of the Japanese car companies just couldn’t help themselves out of their Ugly & Slow competition they had with one another.

the nsx costs 80k more than the gtr... for 80k i can get a new supra on top of that. or the downpayment of a new home.. i think the nsx was massively overcosted for what it delivered.

Blah blah blah. How much is a Nismo GT-R? $200K and now some over $300K. Stop comparing a base GT-R MSRP of $110K to a hybrid supercar. They're not in the same category despite similar performance.

@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA The problem is, that the NSX isn't comparable to Italian and German supercars. A person who wants an exotic supercar isn't even going to consider a Honda or "Acura", they're going to go for a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani, Porsche etc. So that leaves things like the GT-R as an actual competitor. And for somebody who isn't simply after an exotic supercar, things like handling, performance, value for money, tuneability etc, is going to be more important than whether or not it "should" be compared to exotics.

He's also a virgin

@@tanthaman 💀

@@conor7154 matt is arrogant af. He always puts that rotten pa ki on as well yani

@@tanthaman He has a child but continue making a fool of yourself.

@@conor7154 mat is an employee at car wow, if you really wanna compare Mat to Doug the speak of Mat Watson cars and let’s see which channel has stagnated viewership

There, upsettingly, already is a gen 3 S2000. It's the S660, a mid-engine kei car making 63 horsepower as a successor to the S2k and Honda Beat. The S2k is probably dead, very sadly

A new hardtop S2k would absolutely have my buy. Especially if it still revs high and has a manual option like the old ones. I don't even like convertibles, but a high-revving RWD roadster, at that price, with Honda reliability... it would be like a motorcycle on four wheels. Sadly, I'm not sure there's many folks like me out there- at least, not enough to make it worthwhile for Honda to bring it back. And I'm not optimistic about finding a used S2k in good condition.

they missed the S2020. So, a S2050 or S2100?

I currently have a 10th gen si but if they ever release a new s2k it would be an auto buy for me lol. eyeing the 11th gen ctr though once this baby is payed off

@Omora but it will sell extremely well like hot cakes! The NC and ND miata sold very well... same as the evolution X and Subaru STI's... and the overrated gt86... so if it came it out will be very good. Emissions are annoying ik that for sure especially in the motorcycle world. But we get around that by tuning and mapping and taking out restrictions. 200+hp and 170kg.... that beats 1000hp cars 😃😇

They didn't change all that much for the type s though, I don't think it would have sold much better.

@@johnhunter7244 small changes to the exterior styling can dramatically change the look of the car. It doesn’t have to be massive changes but it’s a huge improvement and looks a lot more like an exotic car

Exactly, I just see Honda everywhere, they really need to change up their design language. The ford GT has almost no interior or exterior resemblance to “fords” design language.

@@logan_kes I’d hope so for 500k starting these sell for 110k big difference

@@logan_kes the Ford GT sells for 4* the price...

Haven't driven this one but I have driven the old one. The original Acura NSX also had the same parts bin interior fittings...this is a car that's drivetrain technologically comparable to a 918, the P1, and the LaFerrari - sure it's not as fast as those 3 but I felt Acura was trying to show that the kind of tech in those drive drains and chassis can be done for less...and I think from that perspective they nailed it... I think this NSX

Their NSX like the old one will be under appreciated when on sale by the volumes the sold at but will be loved in the aftermarket once they are long gone

Interior is very luxurious ? It has to be one of the worst interior for that price point …

That interior is dogshit, a fucking Honda Accord has a better interior than this.

@Ivana Notyers It's allowed to be so.

won’t ever be worth $1m

no, the LFA is the best sounding car ever made and uses a V10 and offers a raw driving experiance. The NSX is a tech experiment and doesn’t really offer anything interesting.

@skkss this nsx was affordable hybrid super car and its funny because more of those are available now and people are buying them even the 911 is getting a hybrid

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 yeah and they somehow find other hybrids "INTERESTING" now but not the nsx

the nsx is just a boring car in the sea of hybrids, not a single special thing about this car

Agreed, a lower priced non hybrid rwd model would've been nice.

@@zbrembo absolutely

This car was a discount. Look at all the tech. All other competitors is over 1 million dollars. And it does everything

Corvette $60k NSX $160K

@@rahimi4762 Doubt

I always thought it was supposed to like similar to the Honda logo

@@danielzapien24 True. An online search says it's supposed to look like a caliper to measure the widths/thicknesses of things. Calipers usually have parallel inner surfaces, so I still think it looks like a compass.

It looks like a stretched and vented ‘15 Civic, is barely faster than a Mustang GT, and HAS NO STICK. Why bother.

Not for that kind of money

Keep some money aside for a new stereo head unit

@@mattmatthews5414 What supercar in 2017 offered a manual transmission, because I can't think of a single one? The then-new 2017 Audi R8 didn't offer a stick, no stick on the Huracan, no stick on a McLaren, no stick on a Ferrari, so why should have Acura offered such outdated tech on such a high tech, futuristic car? Unless you want to slow it down?

I love the 2017 NSX as well, great supercar. The 573 hp TT V6 V6 a monster and it sounds great. It's all because JDM fanboys were crying and moaning about why Acura didn't build a carbon copy of the old NSX.

exactly its always the people who are not even shopping for the car complaining.. but 20 years from now these will still be in the 60k and up value for the base.. good luck getting a type s.. just like how the old nsx.. the lowest i ever saw it got to was 20k.. now their all over 50k.. as soon as the all electric nsx comes out.. these same people will be crying "its not as good as the old one! bring back the hybrid"

Exactly. People see the old NSX with rose-colored glasses, but in reality it suffered the same problems the current gen has. I remember reading car guides at the time and they all mentioned that the days of the NSX were numbered because they simply weren't selling. Same for the price, everybody complained that it was too expensive and that for the money you could get a 911. Well now it's the same for the current one.

I'm also old enough to remember the 90's, playing Gran Turismo and being a huge fan of all these Japanese performance cars. I always wanted to see an NSX in real life but no dealer had one over here. The car was super expensive and nobody talked about it. You could basically only get it if you asked for it and ordered one. That makes it a very special car in my book and that's why it deserves that high price tag now.

However a lot of the Italians interiors are cheaply put together but they use an excuse for it. Hard jarring ride. Audi interior is ugly they never mention it.

@@rahimi4762 agreed

Exactly! Lamborghini Huracan cost more money and has cheap plastic interior.

@@rahimi4762 you're doing A LOT of whining on here, "Raschaud."

@@littlejackalo5326 There's always at least one Raschaud in the comments.

garmin put more into fishing then into cars.....

@@jlee438 You know, except for most Honda vehicles, some Toyota, all of Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep, some Mercedes, and BMW.

@@spikejnz makes what a collabation with other companies?

​@grand nagus But people will pay $500k for a Toyota supercar? $200k for a Nissan? $150k for a Chevy? No way you think Nissan builds better cars than Honda LOL

@@Sinoops You’re insane and don’t even believe that yourself 🤣

it will....when they stop making itl....just wait....

@@Sinoops bruh who gives af what brand makes what supercar. If that mf raw and got speed decent or good materials then why not

@@dagreatestwonder23 So nissan with a shitty transmission history is above honda/acura?

That's why the NSX sucks: Made in USA. The interior is total trash, with hard plastic everywhere. If it's the everyday supercar, why are the everyday items so terrible? Confusing climate controls, hard-to-reach USB ports, 1990s navigation system and backup camera, missing integrated cup holders, and no driver assist technologies. This car is a joke. Americans can't design a proper supercar.

@@iu2 I've not sat in one, sounds awful. Will Honda ever repeat that period starting with the CRX and ending with the S2000? I looked at their current line up and found nothing of interest in the slightest/

but the NSX isn't all that good

the LFA was always great, it was just too expensive. This is just boring

@@KekusMagnus nice try, actually the LFA wasn’t always great. It finished almost dead last in MT Best Drivers Car and had mediocre reviews across the board. Other than it’s amazing engine it was a pretty unremarkable car. It’s biggest drawback was its transmission which was horribly out dated by the time the car launched.

@@jameswillard1 way to prove to everyone that sports cars are more than their instrumented testing numbers.

@@cwx8 not sure how I did that 🤔but you’re welcome

It guaranteed would have sold a lot more if it followed the original nsx's moniker, super car performance for a fraction of the cost. Quite literally the same as the R35 gtr.... When it started. But now Godzilla has ballooned from a $70k car to over $200k. Which is fuckin ridiculous.

Hey! I drive automatic transmissions and miss the in-depth Doug Score.

@@A_Final_Hit you still can't be trusted

Driving standard doesn’t make YOU cool bro it’s just something cool some people can do lmao

@@dagreatestwonder23 Liking short Dougscores doesn't make YOU lame bro it's just something lame some people can do lmao

You're right, it will definitely be a future classic. I just hope that someday I can actually afford to buy one before it hideously appreciates like the 2005 Ford GT...

I feel like if you sold Acura you would know the new NSX came out years before the c8

​@@WolfiiHD I do know that. Not sure that it matters which came first. In the end, to me, it's harder to distinguish between an NSX, the C8 and the McLaren--whereas, when I see a Porsche, I instantly know it's a Porsche. When I see an older Lambo, I know it's a Lambo. To me, there's too much parity in auto design.

I agree. In 2016 I bought a Honda VFR800F (motorbike) at my local Honda dealer in Duesseldorf - he was and is the biggest Honda dealer in Germany. The then-new NSX was on display there, painted blue. Sorry, but it looked ordinary. Over the months I saw one in red, then one in sort-of-white parked there. They didn't appeal to me. However, my girlfriend really liked the looks. The original NSX looked way better imo and for my part, a sports car for public roads got to have a manual, otherwise it's just a show-off.

I completely agree, they dropped the ball with the design. IMO they were trying to chase the GTR.

@@CJP1012 For me it's hard to distinguish a Porsche from a Beetle. I mean they all look the same. Even the ones with big wings and oddball acronyms i.e. GTwhatever all look like little stretched VW bugs LOL. I guess all Ferrari's are confused with a C8 too right? 458, 488, F8, Pista? Ha!

Long before the end of its lifespan, the NSX got hideously expensive. I remember a former Acura employee telling me they had a 2000 NSX at the dealer for more than 2 years because nobody bought them, no one was willing to pay $90K for an Acura back then.