Thank you

i had a Used Fat Sabbath on a 22 plate but had to reject it due to fuel leak and other faults, the dealer wanted me to ride it to them as was ! i then bought a 22 plate used Sinnis Outlaw in Tuscany Yellow, it is great , fantastic colour and ride...love it.. far better than the Sabbath i think...

Good to know. Shame though

Do you have any bikes you'd recommend that look alike the sinnis outlaw but for a lower price and still at the 125 limit?

Yep!

I agree on the ridiculous restrictions, just like 50s that can only do 28. It is ludicrous. Have you looked at the Zontes G1?

@@motorsforthemasses , yes I did, thanks- that's a great shout. I've looked at your excellent review of the G1, and clearly it has enough power to escape the dreaded HGVs on dual carriageways, plus its a pretty nice looking bike. But there are two minor things that just nudge me away from it- only a little bit, to be fair- but then, at £3.5k it only has to miss the mark by a little bit to get overlooked. One is that the price is only 1k less than the superb Yamaha XSR125 (and I think I'd get most of that extra 1k back at selling-on time). Plus, if I'm honest, the styling is very good, but...but... well, I guess at that kind of money I'm looking for something that really hits the spot visually. The G1 is a very nice bike, and we know that visual appeal is incredibly subjective... but for me personally, its looks don't quite hit my expectations for a £3.5k bike. Its one that I would shortlist on a top ten, but even as I was putting it on the list, I'd know that it was very unlikely to win out against the FB Mondial, the Hyosung GV, and even the XSR125 (if the budget will stretch to such heady heights). I'm not going to slag off Chinese bikes, because they've come on leaps and bounds as you know better than most, and they are fantastic value at £2k to £3k. But that said, I would still expect the Hyosung and the Yamaha to have a bit of an edge in terms of quality over Zontes, at the moment anyway. I might be wrong on that, of course- a lot of these things are based on hearsay rather than stats.

@@bigtoe333333 you won't regret getting the xsr125, you can easily overtake the lorries (65ish top speed uphill with front wind)

@@socrate696 , thanks for the info. I think as long as I look after it, the extra cost of the Yamaha would mostly be regained at the time of selling it, and it would be great to have that little bit of extra oomph for those occasional moments on A roads during rush hour (or long uphill stretches). I reckon that since the big lorries only do about 56-57mph in the UK, as long as you can do 60mph you can always pull away from them, or not get trapped in between two of them, etc. Unless I was in a hurry, I used to drive my car mostly at around the same sort of speed as lorries when on motorways and A roads. As a result, there were a few times I'd get trapped with one lorry in front and another one tailgating me close behind, and the outside lane would be full- so I couldn't pull out and escape the tailgater. If you are a slower driver, you learn to work around the lorries on motorways. E.g. I learned to keep an eye on the outside lane(s) if I was cruising along behind a lorry. If I saw another lorry coming up (slowly) in the outside lane(s), I would always pull out and overtake the lorry in front of me whilst I had the chance, because the one coming up behind would have a line of cars behind it stretching for hundreds of yards. And if a lorry pulled into the inside lane so it was just ahead of me, I would always overtake it asap and put my foot down for a mile or so, before pulling in again. If you let a lorry sit in front of you and there are others coming up behind, you can guarantee the ones behind will come right up and tailgate you for miles. If you allow say a 50 yard gap in between you and the lorry ahead, the lorry behind will close right up on you, as if to encourage you to close the gap ahead. I'm sure there are reasons why they have to drive that way, but I found it a bit unnerving to have these huge vehicles a few yards from my rear bumper, so I always avoided getting trapped if possible. The idea of playing these games with lorries on a 125cc motorcycle really does not appeal to me (especially in rain/cold conditions), and that's why I feel I need the ability to get to 65mph or even 70 for short bursts when needed.

For those with a small bum, great

Yeah alright, don't rub it in lol

All down to your style preference

I have the Hoodlum and would still pick the Hoodlum between the two. The Hoodlum will do 70mph at a push but will go 60 to 65 no problem. But I pick the Hoodlum just based on the style.

Yes, tubed tyres are fine. What causes the issue is when people but tubeless tyres on with tubes in.

@@motorsforthemasses Thanks a lot,and thank you for your effort.

Hopefully

I thought that till I saw it in person and sat on it. Actually looks bigger than the Hoodlum close up I think

that CL-X heritage is a tidy looking bike, and yes, the Chinese are coming just like the Japanese did back in the day, still my ultimate bike would be a Bonneville ;)

@@niteworlok I like the Bonneville. I just wish the seat height was 2'' higher.

When I contacted Sinnis about rust on my 9 month old bike they just fobbed me off back to the dealer then stopped replying.

That must have filled you with confidence!!

No they are not as it is a demo bike supplied to me by Sinnis for testing.

@@motorsforthemasses It will be sold at some point tho but. I don't think that short distance at max throttle would harm it in any way, considering it already had mileage on it. Also it was well warmed up.

Lol....literally?