The transmission (10spd) is perfectly mated with the 2.0T in the Accord.

there is sport mode on legacy. It's s drive button on the steering wheel. It's surprising that these experts couldn't notice it.

The Accord is a true sleeper. I can hear the pain in your voice Sam everytime the Accord breezes by lol.

Love my ‘20 Honda Accord Touring 2.0T! Such a fine car to own and drive. Really looking forward to what Honda is going to do with the next generation Accord.

Wow, those Subaru CVT fake shifts are slower than my Altima's.

Less than 300 hp can be easily managed with FWD, more than that becomes harder to control and AWD comes into place. I knew the Accord would win, hands down. The Subaru Engine is strong, but the CVT kills the performance and the AWD loses power to the wheels in performance testing. However, this race is pointless because no Legacy owner would buy one to race, they are mature, family cars, soft, comfy, roomy, smooth, stable, built for safety. The Accord still has that racy Honda vibe, it's more childish and surprinsingly fast for it's looks, it depends on what you want.

I own a 2021 Leagcy GT and it's a great car. Yeah, the CVT dumbs down the performance and driving a bit but I'm a middle aged guy who isn't out looking to race Hondas, though I can't help but to think how great it would be if they put the Toyota AT that's in the the BRZ. I believe the CVT is a mainstay for Subaru because that transmission helps them get their MPG numbers for an AWD car.

Love my Legacy. That CVT really can get in the way at times. Personally, I bought an XT (GT) because I wanted space and extra passing power. For racing stuff, I’d look towards the more purposeful Subies. Great video!

Also I’ve been noticing that most people don’t know how to properly use Subarus paddle shifters, there’s a special hidden “sport mode” that is activated whenever the paddles are used and it does indeed make the car pull harder…And believe it or not, it’s best used by leaving the cvt in regular D gear…..

Love these everyday car comparisons, especially the accord :)

Can you do a race with Cadillac ats 2.0t vs accord 2.0t? That would be great!

Love these videos. Great content

I'd love to see you get another Accord that's been tuned with a ktuner and some bolt ons so we could see the difference.

Please give the Accord owner a swift kick in the nuts for me having that Type-R badge.

Wow, a rare prototype Accord Type-R

That was actually closer than i thought. CVT is Caca! Lol Do it again in the snow 🤣

2019 Accord 2.0t 6 speed daily driver here. It is a total sleeper and a swiss army knife. Cruises like a dream, can sip gas if you try, can chirp tires at a moments notice, plenty of room for passengers or cargo. 31k miles and counting of very pleased driving.

I would like to see a race with the 2022 Acura RDX A-spec AWD. And the 2022 Lexus NX AWD 350.

As always fellas … Cheers 🍻 To more juicy content 💯 Accord vs Elantra N would be a bad A** race 👍 Great video as always !

Thank you Sam! Wonder how much of a difference the accord would have made with the stock rims. Still hoping we get a chance to see the current Nissan Maxima vs Honda Accord 2.0t sport.

Brake boosting the Legacy will make it accelerate much quicker than in this video. The CVT doesn’t “shift” when brake boosted and will shave several tenths off 0-60 and quarter mile times. Wish they would have used the technique in this video. Race would be much closer.

It does have a sport mode S# sharp button. On steering wheel to the right.

No brake boosting from the dig clearly Driver mod needed

I had a Legacy non turbo and it was dangerously slow in the ramps, passing etc. Had to sell it after just 6 months and got me a Stinger GT line. Subaru was great on the snow though

I've learned to squeeze a lot of fun out of my 2017 Legacy and it's paddle "shifters"

Curious how the manual versions would've faired.

Very nice comparison. It is not surprising because the Subaru only have 8 horse power more but it's a lot heavier and also the AWD will reduce some of the power going to the wheels. The Subaru needs 300 HP and a proper transmission and it will be an ideal everyday car in all weather conditions. They are genuinely built.

Legacy is fuel ⛽️ consumption and better in snow. AWD… not for racing. Good power not overpriced like the Accord.

Did they clean the gauge screen with sandpaper? 😧

Switch back to your previous intro.. this new one BLOWS

Sam can is the GLI faster than a Forte GT?

Hey Sam, put my 4G TL fwd to race a 2022 IS300 and a 2.0T Accord.

That stock 2.0T on the Accord always amaze me. I have one and it's a great car.

That Legacy is like plain yogurt. Nothing going on there.

Thanks for doing this Sam. Subaru has been really disappointing lately. They have this stupid love affair with the CVT that has no sport mode. I drive an Ascent and it share common characteristics as the Legacy GT. Slow and slumbering. No drive modes and the CVT with the fake shifts programmed into it just plain sucks. The last time I had fun driving a cvt was my 2017 Forester XT with SI-Drive.

I'm curious as to which of these would do better on an autocross track. I'm actually kinda surprised though the legacy was alittle more competitive than I thought. Those Accord 2.0 T's are fast.

Didn’t know there was a Honda Accord type r lol good races Sam!

Funny thing is, there is a Sport mode or Si drive mode, which can be found at bottom of the steering wheel. 🔧🏁

Sam please accord 1.5T vs sonata 1.6T

No surprise on the winner here. Honda needs to put out a performance accord.

Did you all have the legacy xt with turbo?

Can you try a 2005-2006 Subaru Outback XT Limited?

Love your content bro. @1:36 i think its touring model though

Why you don't use paddle shifters on Legacy?

You're a hoot to watch when you're in the losing car, Sam. You remind me of me! You make racing fun cause you care so much! LOL! Love your channel!

I’ve been enjoying my 2022 Sport 2.0t 🙌🏽 great car

My 2018 Accord 1.5T just had a fuel injector fail at 58k error code P0172 (posted on my channel). Modern Honda look amazing but once the 3yr/36k warranty expires you're on your own and you have no idea how expensive modern Honda engines are to fix. Oil changed at 80%, Shell regular used 80% of the time, always did warm up the car in the winter. Dealer so out of touch they recommended brake fluid replacement at 30k. I've never seen this part fail in ANY of my past cars. When asked why the injector failed so early Dealer said they see them all the time and cost of replacement is $1600-$2500 (must replace all 4) and the new injectors warranty is only for 12k/12mos! I was in love and bought the 1st Accord on the lot with series ending in -0001 but when I made a case with Honda to see if it could be part of a bad batch all I got was the VM of the case manager for weeks on end. Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice...

So how about the Accord 2.0t vs Hyundai Elantra N?

That cvt kills the subaru,it limits the power so it won't hurt it.It seems like the engine doesn't even rev up,don't know if it would win but definitely would help if it had a regular automatic.

Sam would you consider posting the 1/4 mile and 0-60 times too on each run?

I'm just gonna keep asking for a 2019+ C300 until it happens 😁

I like the performance on the Honda Accord with those light wheels

Honda really made something special wit the 2.0t. Its platforms lik this tht need to b taken serious and taken into account for when its time to make the next generation. Honda/Acura needs to start letting their hair down. They add a few more goodies to the next accord wit this same setup and it will b amazing.

It would be good if you make the accord heavier by putting some sand bags in the trunk and then film Run 3 and 4.

Why not use the manual mode on the Subaru, would that not improve performance?

Except for the WRX and WRX STI Subaru have been de-sportifying their Cars. They stopped making Turbo charged Legacies and then started back because of public outcry but made them less performance than the GT/GT Spec b models and the GT models from the 5th generation. Then they stopped making Turbo Forresters. So there is a general theme of making their cars less performance oriented. While other companies have been increasing their power output Subaru has maintained the power on the STI @ 305 HP for 10 years.

Watching these videos make it harder and harder to sell my accord. I have too many cars.

Could you guys do the outback wilderness?

U should do the 2.0t Altima vs the 2.0t accord

I wish they would put a manual in the Legacy. Being 49, I would look a little ridiculous in a WRX.

If Subaru gets rid of that crappy CVT, that's a different outcome. CVT is great for fuel mileage, but not if you want to have fun.

You’re racing and you don’t know that the sport mode in the steering wheel for the Subaru 😃

You need to mannually shift the legacy. It holds the gears and acts as a manual using steering shifters.

i agree with Sam. the legacy engine's good but that cvt is garbage. you can hear the slow fake gear shifts. overall, it performed better than expected cuz that accord wasn't really far off. race it against the tlx 2.0t

Should be a sport mode with SI Mode for the Legacy.

Never underrepresente an accord 🤝🏽

Why you use fake shifting ? It just make it slower.

I did enjoy my 3.0 '04 Accord. Too bad they never put out a 3.0 Turbo... The 3.0 was supposed to be a VTEC, but not as much VTEC as my '98 Prelude.

I really wish car makers would stop putting garbage CVT transmissions in any car that is even remotely sporty. I absolutely will not buy a car with a cvt in it.

That Type R badge alone was +52 HP.

That CVT is the biggest offender. Having a higher weight doesn't help either but the CVT just doesn't seem to get the power down as well as a traditional transmission. If they'd lose the fake shifting it would help to. Why even bother to further cripple the CVT with fake shifts?

The Legacy CVT has a manual mode and paddle shifters. Why didn't you try them? I have a 2021 Legacy Touring XT (US trim name for the Canadian GT). It does make a difference.

Please stop wiping your gauge cluster with an s.o.s pad.

Those fake shifts slow that legacy down.

Honda simple just makes the best compact engines and theyre producing better transmissions. The old 2.0 B, K and D series engines were already handling 500hp with custom turbos and that was before 2.0T became mainstream

Suprised to see the torque numbers above the hp numbers. You do not usually see that with a Honda.

Would really like to see the Accord VS the Elantra N. Now that would be phenomenal! In that case, the Elantra packs more power and a lighter weight. Another good one would be the Elantra N VS the Fusion Sport. Or better yet the Fusion Sport VS the Kia Stinger GT or G70. Those racing matchups would take the cake!

DNA Type-R with K20C1 is never wrong 😎 good job honda 👍

I saw the outcome of this race before I even finished reading the title, ha.

This is easy. I place my bets on the Accord as the winner, unless the Legacy is tuned.

You should do the turbo altima and the honda turbo

I really think Subaru is trying to tell consumers they are not the brand for car enthusiasts anymore.

I have a turbo Subaru with a CVT, and I find that it's a little faster when not simulating the shifts. Just let the revs sit at the peak power spot. For me, start in manual, first gear, once it gets to the top of the fake first gear drop it into drive and let the RPM sit at the peak. Not sure it would help in this situation though. Weight is clearly a huge factor in this outcome. Some models of CVT Subarus (or at least my Forester) have S and S# modes. In S#, it actually raises line pressure in the transmission considerably. It results in much quicker shifts and a much tighter feeling off the line.

If Subaru didn't have those fake shifts the Subaru probably wouldn't have been dropped as bad. Those fake shifts cut power terrible in the 2.4

Bro what are those wheels on that Accord??

Try not to feel bad, all Honda products have some kinda performance aspect to it...it may not be in the way you may want it out the box but it's there. Steel wheels ain't a disadvantage, it may not look like much but boi the difference...what u need to do is get one accord with rims and the other on steels and see what it do .

Love my 2.0T, can hang with cars 20k more expensive.

The extra weight on the legacy in part due to the best awd system available in a passenger car.......test these two in snow...a different story lol!

Definitely need to see the maxima on this platform

Subaru finally fixes the engine problems but gets rid of the manual option, I loved my old lgt. I don't hate cvts but this one isn't right yet and the fake steps are unnecessary and slow the car down if they just let it do what it should you wouldn't lose boost on shifts and it would keep a steady power band.

AWD vs FWD ?

RDX VS. NX ?

Wonder how the Subie would do if it lost some weight

what taillights do you have on the accord

Hey Sam please do Kia Stinger gt vs Accord 10 speed 2.0t. Great content!

Don't Buy a New Legacy if your trying to head to the Track. Its like wearing Ski Boots to a Swim Meet

Por que no los corres en la carretera mojada y en curvas aver cuál las maneja mejor?

rematch with the '23 legacy GT?

The Accord doing better on the launch really surprised me. Either driver error or the way that Subaru is setup or whatever. Rest of it makes total sense.

I do 0-60 on my 2022 Legacy with premium gas in 5.1/5.2 seconds. You have to break torque it to get better results and rerun the race.