2022 Tiffin Midas 24RT Owner Experience - Overview

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My 2022 Tiffin 24RT story: (Purchased January 2023)
My wife and I have been searching for a motorhome for several months, looking for a couples coach in the Class C category because we wanted more room than a Class B and a bathroom with a dry shower.
The only available motor homes in our price range (which excluded the higher priced and difficult to find Leisure Travel Vans) that we really tried to like were the Thor Compass/Gemini 23TW (large slide murphy bed) and eventually the longer 24KB (twin). The Winnebago Ekko (twin) was considered because it had so many cool features, but with a wet bath, cannister toilet and without a slide (and more $) it was not for us.
We considered motorhomes on the Ford E-350/E450 (and Chevy Express 4500) chassis, but after driving a few we felt that even the smallest one was too big to comfortably drive. But they are significantly cheaper than the other options that we were considering.
We considered Mercedes Sprinter chassis, and several murphy bed models made our short list, but almost all of them (except for the Thor Quantum 24MB, and Forest River Forester/Sunseeker 2400/2401T) would not allow the refrigerator to be opened with the slide in or the murphy bed down (except for the Jayco Melbourne/Entegra Quest24R). The Winnebago View/Navion 24D and 24V (twin) made our shortlist (and we are big fans of Winnebago engineering and build quality). The Tiffin Wayfarer 24LW (twin) also made our short list, and after seeing one in person, we were impressed with its build quality. We were hesitant to aggressively pursue any of these models because of their slightly bigger size than Ford Transit based motor coaches, the cost of diesel, at least $650/year in maintenance costs (labor intensive diesel fuel filter replacement and 13 qts of oil and filter annually, etc.), typically no TPMS and in late 2022 there was a Mercedes recall (parking brake software issue) that prevented the sale of Sprinters by dealers.
But then we found the Tiffin Midas 24RT. It seemed to first come out at the 2022 Tampa RV show, and it appears that there are few variations going around as we surveyed inventory around the country. Some of the variables between these models besides exterior colors include the option to have auto leveling, rear-side (vertical) compartment doors, second row bench seat variations, fore/aft tables, and a few don't have adaptive cruise. (It almost seems that Tiffin manufactured a range of model features as concepts or prototypes to test the public's attitudes at RV shows and at dealers. Or maybe it was a supply chain issue).
Similar to the Thor Compass/Gemini 24KB, the Midas does have a 178” wheelbase, aluminum wheels, outside shower, AWD, Ford safety technology, TPMS, no spare tire, large exterior storage and high CCC (1440 lbs), frameless awning and 2 TVs.
Compared to the Thor Compass/Gemini 24KB, the Midas does NOT have a slide (more living room space), a 12v compressor refrigerator, ducted AC, a jack-knife sofa (although small), a skylight, the latest Ford Transit chassis, a slightly larger propane tank, a bedroom door or curtain, gas stove (but only induction requiring generator or shore power) and more cabinets (including a wardrobe) to name a few.
But what the Midas does have over its competitors is a usable (somewhat) shower (21”x31.5”) with shower door, auto-leveling, soft start AC, an extended range 31 gallon gasoline tank, a large rear garage door, fiberglass roof, longer beds (76” rather than 73”), microwave up, 3 Fan-Tastic fans, cargo bay lights, padded interior ceiling, 6” less overall height (78" vs 80" interior height), pocket door to bathroom, an accessible generator and one not underneath behind the rear axle under the beds, a 2000w invertor to operate TVs and charge phones without using the generator or shore power, and insulated aluminum horizontally opening cargo slam latch doors, to name a few. (These are the features found in mine which may be different from another Midas).
Of course, my Tiffin Midas has not been without its problems after a few days and a few hundred miles. I will share what those problems are in a few weeks after they have been addressed.

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@jpdocumentary
@jpdocumentary Жыл бұрын
An actual user review! MUCH better than just a sales oriented 'walk through'. How refreshing.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@tuomasholo
@tuomasholo Жыл бұрын
This was a very thorough walkthrough. Thanks!
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome, RVs have a 10,000 different variations, and not one is the best. Maybe I’m a little obsessed with the researching RVs.
@pokeyk1262
@pokeyk1262 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Nicely done. I look forward to your next update.
@billyjohnson9166
@billyjohnson9166 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Happy trails
@peggyconway2900
@peggyconway2900 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy trails !
@marilynkelly9034
@marilynkelly9034 6 ай бұрын
We just purchased the very same model (and interior features) that you have shown here. Need to watch all your video's, as you've been very helpful to us in your review process.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 6 ай бұрын
I’ve had to put up with it’s deficiencies and make some modifications, but the Ford Transit chassis with this twin bed layout (and dry bath) was the best choice for us over the Thor Compass/Gemini and Winnebago Ecko. Other competitors (Leisure, etc) were too expensive or difficult to find. We’ve put 15k miles on ours so far this year and expect the same next year. Recent modifications that I’ll be reporting include slight improvements to furnace ductwork, heat tracing the sewer piping and adding an up/down switch to my vent fans (because they have motors but Tiffin blamed supply chain for not having switches). I hope that you really enjoy your unit, and I would be glad to help out with any questions.
@cricket1302
@cricket1302 Жыл бұрын
love your homework. We have a bike rack that you can tilt to open your trunk or hatchback.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
The Tiffin Midas only has a 1-1/4” receiver hitch (2000 lb towing and 200 lb hitch weight capacity).I have two electric bikes at around 50 lb each, and a Hollywood bike rack. So I will have to use a 1-1/4” to 2” hitch adapter which will bring the bikes out a few more inches. The Hollywood rack does tilt, but with those heavy bikes it is not an easy operation. That being said, I need to see if a standard 20 lb bike on the rack will allow the rack to easily tilt and allow the rear trunk door to open. On the Tiffin website they show the Midas 24RT to no longer have the vertical side access doors at the back. So I was quick to buy mine with those doors so that I would have access to rear storage without opening the rear lifting the rear trunk. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
@johnleonard8311
@johnleonard8311 Жыл бұрын
Tiffin makes great products
@vincecarluccio5018
@vincecarluccio5018 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Great video. How much battery capacity does it have?
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Two standard deep cycle batteries are located under the entry step. Definitely will upgrade to AGM (or lithium when Tiffin warranty period over because it will require a few changes to convertor, BIM, etc.). Also note that the Midas has two chassis AGM batteries (under driver’s seat) which may be standard for all Ford Transit cutaways. Finally, I failed to mention that when Tiffin ordered the Ford chassis for my Midas they optioned for the extended 31-gallon gasoline tank, remote start, keyless entry pad, HID headlights and power mirrors.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Group 27 house batteries
@checkingout8677
@checkingout8677 Жыл бұрын
tiffin service is great. Make a trip to the mothership in winfield, al. They will take great care of you.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
February 6, 2023. Sitting in a Tiffin Service Center bay in Winfield today and all week. So far impressed with knowledge and attitude of service technicians. My unit was one of the first made, and technician said that this was the first Midas that they have seen at their Service Center
@checkingout8677
@checkingout8677 Жыл бұрын
@@rvtechman3619 do the tiffin tour. Get the lunchs. Engage with other owners. Enjoy the adventure. Denorah is a peach
@karenmckersie2239
@karenmckersie2239 Жыл бұрын
Loved your review,can you fit 2 electric bikes in the back cargo area!? Thanks 👌 😊
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
You could probably fit two electric bikes in the rear trunk but it might require removing their front wheels (or maybe just the seats) to fit. On my electric bikes we decided to just put them on a bike rack because even at 50lbs each (light for an electric bike) they are a weight strain to put them in the rear trunk.
@conniebonn-no9mp
@conniebonn-no9mp Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@johnharper2016
@johnharper2016 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a lot of RV to sit on top of a Transit Chassis. What is the GVRW? What is the CGVWR? How much does it weigh empty? That is full gas tank but no people or cargo. Which engine? Interested in difference between GVWR and empty weight. That would tell me real world cargo capacity. Thanks for info. Tiffin makes a nice product, or at least they did before sale.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
GVWR 11,000LBS, Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity on mine is 1440LBS, and from what a I have heard empty weight includes full fuel tank (31 gallons for mine) and propane tank. 3.5L EcoBoost V-6. Very powerful. 350HD dually chassis
@tthoutx1
@tthoutx1 Жыл бұрын
Oh good thing you’re the RV Techman you must be a RV repair expert. La Mesa in Albuquerque screwed me over. “Oh just take the RV we will take care of everything later no problem.” Load of bull. Never again. Kind of surprised you were doing a review and you had not even camped or traveled in it yet. But then I guess you have years of experience. I started RVing with my parents back in 1963. Gave me the opportunity to learn a lot about the RV industry. And now I am retired and have owned 3 different rigs and put on 70k miles in just the last 4 years. No not a full timer just love to site see and travel. Including 3 factory warranty trips because dealers never once told the truth about anything. Wish I was a real professional RV Techman.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
I’m holding my critical comments until I get repairs completed at the Tiffin factory next week. It did not use to be this way. There is a major breakdown in the RV industry where RVs are manufactured with serious defects and sent to dealers who don’t possess the skill set to repair them. I’m sorry for you, me and for all of us. I feel fortunate for the small amount of mechanical ability that I possess (along with KZfaq videos), so that I can address some of the simpler issue. But I feel sorry for for those new to RVs and are naive to what they are in for.
@1953MMike
@1953MMike Жыл бұрын
Would a swing out bike rack into the 2" receiver help the door open issue?
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
First, the hitch is only 1-1/4” receiver. The rear door does swing up pretty high, so maybe by the time a 1-1/4” to 2” hitch adapter is used a normal bike rack might work. A swing out bike rack would definitely work. Tiffin appears to have manufactured the Midas with several variations. I bought one of these early models because I wanted the rear side doors (and Bigfoot auto leveling and Ford adaptive cruise) that I wasn’t seeing on all models offered for sale. So I figured that if I had the rear side doors then I could still have access to the rear storage with the bike rack on.
@Lolaandcassidyadventures
@Lolaandcassidyadventures Жыл бұрын
I like my leisure travel van did you look at those too? Wish these were 4 season coaches.:( ours even has tank heaters but the lines are still exposed!
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
We did consider LTVs, but they were higher priced (but probably worth it), less available and dealers told us that we could only order one with delivery months away. Also, my wife felt that the opposing sats arrangement in the LTV RTB was more confining and we would prefer to have second row passengers seat-belted in facing forward.
@Lolaandcassidyadventures
@Lolaandcassidyadventures Жыл бұрын
@@rvtechman3619yeah it’s a 4 year wait for a new one. We bought a used one.:)
@Rafael-ri2ft
@Rafael-ri2ft Жыл бұрын
Loved to see a user review. Would have loved to have heard 'about the few bugs' for perspective. Disappointing the yellow wires were left like that in the inverter cubby. Seems to me like the dealer wasn't very helpful or informative. That drive shaft looked pretty rusty for a new van? Good luck with it hope you enjoy it.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
The few bugs included clear coat runs on front cap, rear trunk door would not stay latched, bathroom light disconnected from multiplex Spyder, pump outdoor switch not connected, no outside COAX connection, tank level sensors set too low, outside Ford keypad wouldn’t work to name most of them. TIFFIN FIXED ALL OF THEM. We have high expectations at these prices, but unfortunately are usually disappointed.. We are expecting the dealer to be like a typical car dealer with trained technicians and access to a corporate knowledge/experience database. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. Also, there is always a poor link between the manufacturers and the dealers communicating the resolution of problems and lessons learned. Regarding the rusted driveshaft, this is a 2022 Tiffin built on a 2020 chassis I’m guessing because of supply chain issues. Also, I really believe that my RV was put together quickly and sent out for RV shows with the expectations any problems would be minor and will be fixed by the dealer which was a big mistake on their part.
@Rafael-ri2ft
@Rafael-ri2ft Жыл бұрын
@@rvtechman3619 WOW, truly disappointing to hear. Definitely at this price range better is to be expected. It seems like it was a lot of lazy/poor workmanship. I hope it all gets sorted so you can begin to enjoy it as intended. Good luck.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
@@Rafael-ri2ft Thanks
@scottpearce7466
@scottpearce7466 Жыл бұрын
Very nice unit, good gas mileage...AWD?
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
After driving 5000 miles, the display (never reset) shows 15 mpg. At 60-65 mph I’m getting about 16 mpg, and that varies up or down depending upon the the direction of any strong winds.
@go5582
@go5582 2 ай бұрын
hi. more videos please.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 2 ай бұрын
I just did a video on fixing my furnace. What subject matter are you interested in?
@richardemerton2789
@richardemerton2789 Жыл бұрын
Did you look at the Leisure Travel Van Wonder Twin Bed. Similar,,,,
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
We only looked at LTVs online. They are probably a better product but they are more than we wanted to spend. It certainly looks like the Tiffin and LTV are similar in appearance
@1downbrown612
@1downbrown612 Жыл бұрын
That little hallway made me feel claustrophobic
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
It is tight, but so is the Thor Compass/Gemini 24KB and Winnebago Ekko. We have “hug and pivot “ a lot. Bathroom is also tight, but better the Thor and Winnebago. Definitely not for large or really tall people. We look at it as a Class B but with a dry bath.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Oh, and we like the microwave up, but it is really annoying when doing dishes in the sink.
@BruceConque
@BruceConque Жыл бұрын
Are you within 600 miles of my location in Lafayette LA?
@dmorean
@dmorean Жыл бұрын
Tiffin has nice fit and finish and good layouts but they haven't embraced electrical technology. At a minimum, should have 3000 watt inverter with lithium batteries so you can power the cooktop and microwave off the batteries. The trend is to be able to power everything, including AC off the batteries.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
I agree that that would be nice. I was told that the they are starting to use Dragonfly batteries and their website shows a 12v compressor refrigerator as an option. It does seem illogical to have an induction cooktop but not have it connected to the inverter (because inverter only 2000w).
@richarddorsch7275
@richarddorsch7275 Жыл бұрын
Nice RV but I love my Rialta 2003QD
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
I love my 2015 Winnebago but I wanted adaptive cruise control and the latest modern safety features a modern chassis provides.I could have added solar, an inverter and a quieter AC to my Winnebago but I wanted the newer chassis also. But of course, I’m paying the price for it.
@user-xq4zu1sq6b
@user-xq4zu1sq6b 10 ай бұрын
🌺🙏🌺🙏
@domanejalil
@domanejalil 9 ай бұрын
كم هوا سعر هادا الكامبر
@markeidson5264
@markeidson5264 9 ай бұрын
The vehicle has a recommended price of $US170,000. But depending upon market, like most recreational vehicles they can be purchased at a discount as much as 30-35%
@bi0lizard1
@bi0lizard1 Жыл бұрын
So much better than those scammer BS salesman “reviews”! Well done.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@anaivettehernandez8672
@anaivettehernandez8672 Жыл бұрын
How much?
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Significantly less than MSRP and lower than what’s currently listed on RVTrader for 2023 models. My alternative was a Thor Compass/Gemini 24KB with full body paint, and my price was comparable to what those are listed on RVTader.
@jacoe33333
@jacoe33333 Жыл бұрын
Engine?
@markeidson5264
@markeidson5264 9 ай бұрын
3.5L V6 EcoBoost. 310HP, 400ft-lb torque. 14-16 mpg
@bogeys1242
@bogeys1242 Жыл бұрын
They make bike racks that swing out. Problem solved on the back hatch.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
That’s a great solution. But I’ve got heavy (50 lb each) electric bikes, so I will have to investigate if they are available for me. I don’t understand what Tiffin is doing with my model. Rear side access doors were on some and then not others. And now they don’t seem to make my model after 2022. Thanks for your contribution.
@user-xq4zu1sq6b
@user-xq4zu1sq6b 10 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@whipsplash6943
@whipsplash6943 Ай бұрын
Clearly there's alot more interior storage area on my 2024 Gemini 24RT and the design and trim on the Tiffin is old and tired looking compared to the Gemini.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Ай бұрын
There are pluses and minuses to every RV design. Is a Gemini 24RT an actual model? My Tiffin has exceptional outside storage which is more appropriate to my needs, and I can sacrifice Euro style cabinets for a 31 gallon gasoline tank, 2000w inverter, soft start AC, Bigfoot leveling 75 inch long beds, Truma hot water, fiberglass roof, full body paint, aluminum side-closing outside compartments with slam latches, etc. Also, my inside storage is more than adequate for several weeks of couples traveling. Not perfect, and I have made plenty of modifications, but to each his own.
@TriggerTravels
@TriggerTravels Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that people are paying 200k dollars for these things 🤦
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
Maybe for an LTV, but not this. Now that we are over the shortage of RVs during Covid, we are returning to the pre-Covid price days of minimum 30% discount of MSRP, and 35% or more discount on older (last year) models
@thomasc5817
@thomasc5817 Жыл бұрын
Not what I think of when I hear Tiffin. So many missed opportunities to make it better.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
I found out that mine was one of first production runs. I can’t explain how it left the factory with the problems that it had, but they have made it right after my visit to their service center.
@thomasc5817
@thomasc5817 Жыл бұрын
@@rvtechman3619 oh no doubt. I know a guy that owns one. They take good care of him and his Allegro. My point was the touches inside that should set Tiffan apart from the Amish build belt... Your unit didn't seem to have those touches. Was a bit shocked after seeing other units they put out. But there service is top-notch!
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasc5817 OK. Now I understand your comment. Maybe it’s not the typical top Tiffin level of material quality but it is certainly superior to the competitors in that price range. Solid wood cabinets but not the fancy high gloss curved Euro style. Porcelain toilet and bathroom sink. Padded ceiling (but non-ducted AC), fiberglass roof, full body paint, etc. Probably not up to Allegro or LTV materials quality but again , better than competitors at this price point.
@thomasc5817
@thomasc5817 Жыл бұрын
@@rvtechman3619 no doubt in my mind. Tiffin stands behind their products unlike any other domestic manufacturer.. I just expected a bit more trim level and was surprised. No bad or anything. Just changed my perception of Tiffin and seeing they are making things to meet customers demands. All good! Happy travels friend!
@barbaradowney4207
@barbaradowney4207 Жыл бұрын
Why would you take delivery with known problems? Loose wiring? Once you drive it off the lot it's warranty work. Do you know a lot of dealerships will not honor warranty work unless you bought it from them? Are you willing to drive back 800 miles for them to fix it. I have heard not so great things about La Mesa. Did you not winterize it driving through cold weather? Oy vey.
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
The problems didn’t reveal themselves until after living (in RV park near dealer) in the RV for 24hrs when I had a chance to test everything to the next level of thoroughness. (Run the furnace for more than an hour, test all electrical components and appliances under different operating conditions, fill and empty tanks, while using and observing multiplex, etc.) Not a happy situation but I had the time to take it to Tiffin to make it right. No problems traveling under mild freezing conditions. Truma good to -4F if kept on. This is a unique coach, with great features and great Tiffin quality (in most instances). I took a risk on this first year model (potentially a prototype) knowing that all of the features that it had might not be available in the future. I’m paying the price in the short term, with hopes that it will be a great motor coach. In hindsight I should have hired an NRVIA inspector, had the dealer fix issues, and then have inspector check repairs.
@barbaradowney4207
@barbaradowney4207 Жыл бұрын
@@rvtechman3619 Yes an RV inspector is such a great idea. I hope you get all your issues taken care of and get to enjoy your Tiffin. Good luck and happy, safe travels!
@rvtechman3619
@rvtechman3619 Жыл бұрын
@@barbaradowney4207 Thank you
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