Thats a big mistake u need to put in Video.... For the sake of all the wheel spins

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U get no knowledge about cars

the conscious viewer got that 4WD, cause u said it... though the elantra N is my favorite, the GTI MK8 interior without haptic,- allways touchpanels is ridiculous climatecontrol/radio... btw: enginecover?!? greets from germany

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I appreciate this comment :) so many hyundai haters out there who doesn't give them chance or credit for doing something

@@woobizzlefoshizzle I have a Kona N but would go i30N if I could. As for the video, I don't like these new golf's, the 2016 look best to me.

@@carloscervantes836 I would love to have i30N. I honestly don't even care about the performance that much I think i30N looks way better than latest golf

The Elantra is the ugliest car on the road though....no matter how fast it is?? You still have to look at the damn thing. PASS.

@@eppyz I've seen uglier and you just hatin

Only from a dig tho coz AWD

Awd and lighter wight I think? Plus more hp lol. But man both cars look great, I prefer the Elantra because I like Sedan cars more than hatchback

How's that a different price range.. difference between the two cars in Canada is about $6k.. which would be AWD system in cost.

@@eltonfernandes6315 how is there not a price difference? The video literally shows the almost 12k price difference

Just buy a 2017 audi s3 sedan and obliterate them all and cheaper

Super proud of you bro! Glad it ain't just me having issues with LC in the races lol

@@n2productions thank you! so hard to get grip when it’s pushing that much HP on a dig lol

You did good bro that new launch system on the R launches as well as a damn Porsche it seems. Nothing you could do

@@glistud8178 thank you :) the R is amazing no doubt.

Not to mention it can out track the R, this is just a straight line which isn't the Elantra N's shining trait

@@ChristianRunsNY not in the rain!

@@yeetus59 probably not, but honestly it depends who’s driving if you are talking on track wet weather. F1 looks pretty good with 2wd lol

@@ChristianRunsNY Doesn’t look like the Elentra’s ‘ring time has released yet

@@jacobvanderhooft2188 Lots of track runs out there bone stock from the dealership and the N is incredible for the price.

looking into getting some after i raced here lol

True

@@Momospeare same lol. These launches really feel like the car's gonna break

It’s a Hyundai what do you expect

I put stiffer bushings on the rear motor mount of my Veloster N and it made a significant difference in clutch engagement and wheel hop.

@Bry Zeer Pretty narro minded statement. At $32k, there’s a broad range of cars available for people to purchase. Even the GTI is around that price range. Nothing wrong with a Hyundai if that’s what someone wants.

@Bry Zeer lol, come on man. My argument is that people do buy Hyundai because they like it. Nobody has a gun to their head. If nobody bought them the company would go under. you’re also comparing different things. Want resale value? Buy a Toyota, want something fast? Shit, get a Lambo. Different stroke for different folks. I understand what you’re saying, but there is a lot of value In the new N-Line. Just because you don’t like Hyundai, doesn’t mean nobody else does. Also, you can’t compare the Z. Way different class, price range, even the consumer target is different.

@@EricBuenoo yeah the N is a great value at the price point. Brand Kardashians may not respect it but that doesn’t mean it’s not a great buy. And some people could care less about what people think or their “street cred” they just wanna have fun driving their car, and the N is a blast.

@@Ark_Medic Exactly. I could care less what my neighbor drives, not sure why I need to care about what others think I drive.

Vw is made way better

best flag man 100%

@@Momospeare I'll take that W! Kinda hard to screw it up though :P

Put a dragy in each car too Reaction time plays HUGE role in who crosses line first

I know. I had a tuned Golf R before and now have a Kona N and its not even close to how fast the R was but I like the N for how it drives and handles

@@vroomgc what is the difference in the handling, vw makes one of the best handling cars on the market

@@jorge9570 The difference is that the N is a tighter handling car and doesnt understeer as an R can do. Most people mod their R's to help with handling

@@vroomgc good to know…

Thank you

That becomes redundant in hot weather with good tyres

@@afrikengunner AWD is still a significant advantage

@@aono335 we will see when the type R comes out... it is more than AWD... u factor in weight... if a light FWD keeps up the first 50meters then physics takes over after that... AWD is good when done right and in all weather not when it is 25+degrees Celsius... this is why only Subaru and ford have mastered the AWD systems

@@afrikengunner ford? Since when did Ford master the awd system? Audi has the real Quattro system, fwd based haldex with and without lsd, rwd based haldex with lsd. Audi has the best and they’re known for it for a reason. Ford, Chevy, Dodge and Mercedes and more have their truck lineup with 4x4 with and without locking diffs. Ford cars don’t have impressive awd systems.

@@PapiAndrey the last Goxus RS had the second best AWD to Subaru... that is when they mastered it... Quatro has different versions... u only get the proper quarto is the RS cars...

And that is only the 315 hp US version not the same here in Europe the first models that came out developed 343 hp factory claimed 320 hp then recent ones developed 330-335

@@marshall435 you guys get all the cool VW’s. We get the leftover stuff and have to tune them 😂

@@Vanjrl337 I have a GTI TCR 290 hp which isn't available in America just for exemple here the facelift golf R has 310 hp and yet this GTI TCR which is a limited edition with 290hp is way quicker after 75mph 80mph it out runs a golf R easily although there is 20hp difference on paper I have yet to test it against a TYPE R I have won against an S3 a golf R and a Hyundai I30N , the only car that beat me was a Seat Leon Cupra 300 also FWD if you know it

@@marshall435 yeah it makes sense as you don’t have the weight of the awd. The same is true for tuned gti’s in the states. GTI’s are lil roll race monsters, because of the great midrange torque and weight. The biggest issues with the GTI is the power is limited by traction, so the R’s usually take them from a dig. I’d love to see VW build a rwd GTI, then I could sup it up and put drag radials on the back 😂

I dkn why hyundai didnt just put the engine from the sonata/optima in the elantra. Would of been cheaper and probably better.

It’ll break down

@@Freddy_Confettithat’s why people do do basic maintenance

@@Freddy_Confetti And the golf won't? 💀

​@Nick_Gurrrr yeah vw's do that 😂

@@Freddy_Confettithats no sweat brother. Not with the 100k factory warranty 😂😂😂

Thank you :)

Right because for that price of golf r you can get a Stinger GT and spank the R

I tried to get the Elantra but the dealerships all wanted to tack on around $3500 markup, definitely lessens their appeal. This market sucks. Ended up with a GTI. Good car too, more luxury, little slower.

@@Jakalwarrior I have heard horror stories on those VW engines though. Make sure to stay on top of the maintenance.

It was, you can see it on the cluster

If used or not will still lose

@@joshuapounds7646 Yeah on the dig, the EN is never going to beat a comparably powered car with AWD. With the wheel hop it's a mixed bag on how good of a start you'll get, but even the best one they're going to be at least 2 car lengths behind from the start. We saw it here plain as day. The NGS can't make that up on a short run. Obviously it could have been the edge that let it beat the VW on the roll, but tough to say.

You pay $12k for the R for refinement n less roadnoise

It didn’t keep up. It lost. It would have lost the first roll as well if they had both cars in the right gear. The R was catching up nicely in the first one

Ah yes you still compare the manual base pack EN to the fully loaded DSG R I see. In that case the N will get clapped even more! Turns out when you pay 8k more you get awd, a faster/quicker, and more refined car.

Should really learn to do math bud! 51-43=12 now according to Hyundai fans.

@@someguyprobably In the USA $45,985-$34,735=$11,250.

No it’s not, the EN is the quicker car. The Sonata N line makes roughly 250-260whp and 300wtq. The EN makes 245whp on normal octane and 275-280whp on higher octane. The Golf R makes 260-270whp on normal octane and 290whp on higher octane.

He pulled a few James May's

yes you right the other guy was on point with the lunch

What did the other guy bring for lunch

@@mikeyl114 I meant launched....🤭Excuse me, english is not my first language..

how lol

@@jershomceral8591 it beat it?

@@mharro88 nah just how stupid the GTI driver racing with AC on cutting all that boost lol.

@@jershomceral8591 well obviously the car automatically does that for you it’s a 2023.

Actually it's the opposite the car WILL shut off the A/C when it detects 90+% throttle for full engine acceleration

I'm about to be 42 in a week, and I just switched from a MK7 GTI (manual) to an EN (manual). It's just too much fun. I liked the GTI, but it was just too "tame" of a drive for me. Plus, I REALLY don't like the new "haptic feedback" entertainment system in the new VWs...that's a deal-breaker for me.

I would get this if I was in the market and I'm over 40. For now my IS350 will do.

Everyone noticed that. Pretty obvious. And they have a development center by the Nürburgring. They hired ex bmw and audi engineers.

Can you elaborate a bit more about that boost issue please? Sounds odd that vw limits boost in the sportiest mode.

He’s saying it needs to be in manual mode to achieve full boost. They also limit boost in modes for strictly gas mileage purposes.

@@pokest225 you can use manual on special mode as well as auto

Elantra more fun to drive? Good joke ;)

@@MauriceBln1 I’ve driven both, Elantra made me smile much more. Although they’re good cars Golfs are pretty boring IMO, aesthetically too.

@@adamb8552 LOOOL

in canada per hyundais website it's 40.5k for elantra N DCT and 47.6k for golf R

It’ll break down lol

Golf r still wins on a roll too

@@mattsmith7379 Lost the first roll to a car that's 10K less lol. I could get a solid BMW for the price of that GolfR

AWD vs FWD from a roll is also silly, since AWD adds weight and drivetrain losses with no significant benefit from AWD traction.

Check again lol 20k more mk8r is going for 60k right now

the R doesnt cost more for outright performance it costs more because it is basically a luxury car. it is not a track based car like the elantra N it is a balanced daily driver meant for taking off at a stop light and back road fun. the Elantra N actually should beat it on a track considering that is the whole purpose of the EN.

Maybe also the fact that if the N is being made in Germany, it would probably have similar pricing as the R.

@@kingGfour I didn't realize the mark up was so large. Thanks for the info!

@@mogmanprince Does it cost that much more to make a car in Germany?

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I know here in the states, sport is n/a.

The EN dsg puts down 280 at the wheels. That makes them even

@@kbdadriftking nah. It doesn’t. MK7 and MK8 I know are both underrated from the crank as well.

@@TeeWadeG if you go look at the Dyno videos they all do. No matter the deciding factor is the aftermarket. Let's hope it's good for the EN, cause it's not...it won't matter.

Let the excuses begin, suck it Hyundai lovers 😅

Just Dig tho coz AWD, on a roll they're identical like pretty much the same

@@Ahmed___9 imagine the golf R tuned from a dig lol.

There are too many VW/Golf fans if anything, not slept on at all. They’re just expensive in comparison.

I30N?

It wouldn't because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai still makes ugly little cars.

Awd 315 hp $$$

@@whosdondada Yes, the i30N is available in Europe. Basically same powertrain. But it's a different class, typical hot hatch.

@@randomautonomousdronepilot3384 I 30N is not exactly a beauty. And hyundai sells a lot of them.

Only brings traction off the line

@@odinikita4821 Plus great traction in bad weather.

Awd is worse from a roll even if it can go into 2wd. It’s extra weight and there is still more drivetrain loss. It’s only good for a dig, handling, and bad weather of course.

R was in the wrong gear for the 50 roll, still a very close race.

Yes made no sense he did 3 dig races with the same result in each but only 1 of the rolls. And of course he puts the tranny in full auto during the roll races which is crazy IMO

@@nighthawk0077 I am sure they just got carried away

@@TeeWadeG No that's actually how they do all the races. Besides if you're doing a race and feel the tranny in the wrong gear or downshifting very slowly, wouldn't you immediately redo the run and select manual shift mode?

The R is a little heavier though so it does not have a weight advantage over the N

Not in North America

Clubsports don't exist this side of the pond.

That's a pity cause this aint a fair comparison..

If they did track times the Clubsport is even faster than both. lol

@@Holmessonwhen you come to Germany here you will see it lol would still destroy that N both Dig and Roll race almost the same performance of a Golf R just FWD

In reality though the N runs around $45k so not far off there. Most Hyundai Dealers are adding at least $5k mark up some higher...The R might too, but Hyundai's are crap so in 5 yrs that N will be worth 1/4 its price. Buy one used.

Runs around 45k? I’m talking MSRP numbers and msrp is about 32k for the N

@@eppyz Hyundai N division is different to the rest of Hyundai. Since 2018 they've held their value incredibly well. They're also nowhere near 45k . The golf r is a ridiculous ripoff

@@eppyz mk8 golf R around $60k

In SoCal they MSRP for about $45k dealers are asking about $5k markup, so if your paying $60k where you live? Wowza, Hyundai here where I live are selling these N's for $10k over sticker, Not worth it to me, I would take a Golf R over a Hyundai any day of the week.

Wow! In that case Golf R no question.

I just bought a EN DCT for just under 34k. I pick it up next week. Right across the street the Golf R is selling for 46k.. its a really nice car, but its 12k more. The difference is 12k, at least in the states.

Im in the US they're charging between 34-35k for the N in my state. 41k LOL like they are robbing you guys. I would never pay in the 40s for ANY FWD car

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I think it just need AWD and and it would be a German killer

​@josuecastro3945 Not likely. The Germans are very good at making engines. Hyundai and Kia historically are not. The EN can't take 500+ wheel like the MQB platform can.

​@@josuecastro3945 Germany killer 😂.

The 2.5T is coming in the future, the head guy in the N division did say he promised to make a 2.5T N before he leaves.

Bro you trippin’ the z will dust that golf r lol maybe the 3.0t 300 hp luxe q50 would be good match up but against red sport nah lol

If we talking about numbers the new Z goes 0-60 in less than 3.5 sec, while the golf r is at 4.7 sec 0-60. It’s a good match up for the q50 3.0t though I’d like to see that golf r going for q50.

@@keithjay4944 bro stfu and do some research. The GOLF R matched the Supra at 3.9 seconds to 60. The Supra already ate the Z stop quoting MK7 timings. This is the Mk8 GOLF R and he is right their trap speed and Quartermile and 0-60 is pretty similar from dig

@@keithjay4944 Where you getting your facts from.. the new R is 4.1. The new R would dust a q50 red sport. No issues.

Z should win from a dig quite comfortably. They're not in the same category performance-wise.

Mistyped

The quality is not even close. The paint is so thin on the EN that if you wash it too much the paint might come off. lol I'd pay 12k more for quality. VW's last, while the EN will be in the junk yard in 10 years.

I doubt it

@@Yoomaro the stinger took the N on the roll that they had here not long ago so it should take the R too. The dig will be much closer. I still think the the R will take the roll by a 1/2 car.

No way.

@@jamessephar9458 yes way lol

I raced my friends Stinger GT AWD multiple times at the drag strip and got him every time stock vs stock. However it was pretty close. The R launches much better. I beat his 60 foot every time

I’ll reply to my own comment; I did see an Elantra N for the first time at Nashville Cars and Coffee. The interior looks great and the car appears a solid value for the money. It’s just not competing for the same buyer as an R.

@@clintg6016v it's not the same market .. fwd vs awd .. the elantra is closer to a type r than the golf.. it is a street legal track car. in a straight line the r and elantra are really similar from a roll. Obviously AWD changes the game from a dig especially since the elantra launches badly. Put them on a track though and story will be different. So far the elantra is a full 4 seconds faster on laguna seca

@@davidpaulin You do realize the N competes more so with the CLUBSPORT FWD GTI that is not in USA. And the CLUBSPORT litearlly ruins it at the track timing. Look at the MK8 clubsports new track timing for NUMINBURGH

You get what you pay for. The R cost 12k more msrp in the US. This car is meant to compete with the Civic SI and the GTI. There's no way I'm paying nearly 50k for a VW when I can get the N in the mid 30s but to each its own.

The Elantra is selling for almost 50k are you kidding me...Golf r is still the better choice

Lol the elantra cost the same as the golf r

For msrp, Hyundai has been killing it in terms of value. VW does too, but lately it’s been Hyundai/Kia have packed many feature AND given a very generous warranty, which you will need. I say this after working at Hyundai.

Keep in mind the Golf R comes standard with a lot of options. Also the AWD and refinement alone is worth the extra money. Imagine FWD in heavy snow and ice. It sucks. Plus it’s fun knowing you can launch the piss out of it and go 0-60 mph in 4.2 or 4.3 sec consistently

@@mqbr22 I’ve driven both back to back and the Gti and R are much nicer and more refined. I’ve been in every car in this class and the Mk8 feels like a luxury car in comparison. I’ve also seen it do 0-60 in 3.9 and the quarter in 12.3 @ 111.7mph stock. That’s insane

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N edges the R out on a roll which is why we are here, straight line speed

Wouldnt know

there literally like 1 hate comment lmfao

@@SamCarLegion Since when is $44K USD = $45K CND? 🤣

You are delusional

The Golf R was coming back on the top end of the 50 roll. I wish they did another roll race or two for better measure. The Golf R traps higher and puts down quicker times from a roll. The Elantra N has shorter ratios than the R, that’s one reason why it does so well down low for the power it has. The R has longer ratios and that’s why it traps 110-113mph stock

@@PapiAndrey Thats also true. The Golf R is making way more HP and it makes more power in the higher rev range

@@aono335 the GOLF R started in the wrong gear on the first roll race. second one it won easily. The GOLF R also was using automatic mode where it doesnt use full power like the N does. Full power comes with manual paddle shifters on the R where they dint use because people mess up a lot. The R is just the faster car

@@aono335 not sure I’d say way more power. Look what they make on the dyno. Thing is not all dynos are the same and most of the time people don’t mention what dyno they used. But the difference isn’t huge. Still, the Golf R traps higher and it’s the faster car

Im pretty sure an extra 10hp from 1 extra psi of boost is not a big deal.

The R button the equivalent of an ECU tune? What are you talking about?

@@davidcohen2762 Yeah I'd sure hate to spend hundreds on a tune only to gain 10hp. Also pretty sure you can still utilize the NGS (R?) button even after you get a proper tune for a small extra boost in the same way.

Who told you 10hp gain is equivalent to an ecu tune? Most modern 2.0L Turbo engines are easily getting 50-80hp from only a stage one tune.

@@davidcohen2762 exactly. A reflash is a huge deal on the N. 10 HP is doing almost nothing for the car

Not precise:(

No way EN was keeping up off the dig without a handicap but the roll was expected

@@8SpeedNate the roll was expected, a split decision, not sure how you saw that coming😋

@@klasseact6663 the rolls weren’t ideal, I wish they ran it back once or twice more. I suspect the R would edge out the N, it was coming back on the 50 roll. I don’t know how the N gearing is after 80mph, but I know the R has longer ratios (probably for the autobahn). That said, crazy to think how quick these economy cars are. A 2014 mustang gt with 420hp would be in trouble with these cars

@@PapiAndrey well said and if you had to guess or maybe know, what are these R's putting out for hp? Depending on the dyno I've seen anywhere from 255-276 whp for the N. I agree about gearing and not sure how the N is geared there but I know this about the EN...it just pulls and pulls on the top, doesn't seem to flatten out and is limited to 155 mph.

The R still beat it on on roll even the first race with the wrong gear the GOLF R Being AWD was still catching up. Second race it straight up won. One thing u need to consider is the N makes more power and boost on automatic mode On roll race which is what they were using Compared to the Golf R where u need to use manual mode with the DSG unlike the way that DCT is tuned for automatic mode. Mattwatsonn did a good example of this. He did a video with the new golf r against. A type R. In the first Video the golf r used manual paddle shifters with its DSG. It clapped the Type R. Later on he posted another video where he leaves the golf r on automatic and they are head to head. So on the roll the N in this video had every possible advantage and still lost