As a RS3 owner I would like to mention that you are 100% right. I have been always saying that rs3 has a few drawbacks. The first one, as you mentioned, the turbo lag. It was quite disappointing for me to feel it. And yes, it is very noticeable and something I had to get used to specially if you prefer moderate driving on highways. It gets a little better if driving in manual mode but still quite big wait time until the turbo spools. I've driven many cars and I was quite surprised after driving B58/S58 engine from bmw (supra, 340, 440, m2, m3, etc). The spool is instant, it almost feels like a powerful naturally aspirated engine. Secondly, in terms of cornering. I have always been saying it and will be saying it. Rs3 is about going straight line. You will feel that understeer right away on the rs3. Audis have been always struggling with this issue. You have to be extra careful when taking corners. I personally didn't feel quite a struggle driving pretty much every bmw line up. Third, I would like to mention the brakes on the rs3. They are, however, spectacular. One of the best brake systems I have ever experienced. You will be surprised how powerful they are. By the way, lamborghini has used the same front brakes in the past for a few of their models. Fourth, tuning potential. As the author of the video mentioned, rs3 is quite known in the drag race world. I already said that rs3 is about to go in a straight line and it is 100% correct. The way this car launches is absolutely insane in a good way of course. Even stock rs3 feels very fast when launched. After some modifications the car is literally a beast. You will be destroying pretty much every single car and you won't be afraid to race super cars such as Lambos, R8s, Ferraris, etc. But let's talk about some drawbacks. I would say it is the price that you have to pay to at least to get to Stage 2 levels. On every forced induction engine when it comes to tuning there are basic mods that are the must such as air coming in, coming out and cooling of the air. Mostly people upgrade their air intakes, downpipes and intercoolers and of course software upgrade on forced induction engines. So on the RS3 is is quite expensive to be honest to do this kind of upgrades. For example, upgrading the downpipe requires removal of the driveshaft. There is also one more part that usually rs3 owners upgrade is the turbo inlet. For such small part it takes quite some time to install it. Plus forget about doing everything yourself because there are big changes you will damage something such as the fragile driveshaft. Supra, on another hand, is very user friendly regarding upgrades and not expensive in terms of parts and labor. Overall, I still think that rs3 is a great car but not for everyone. There are things that you just have to get used. My suggestion before buying the car is to actually drive it for quite some time before making decisions. I don't think someone will read this but I just wanted to share my thoughts. Thanks!

I just traded in my M2 Competition for a 2023 RS3 two weeks ago. I've only put a couple hundred miles on it so far, but I have a couple corners I like to take fast. And the first time I took the RS3 through one of them, I did it faster than I ever did with my M2 and it felt planted firmly the whole time. Totally subjective, but it impressed me. I wasn't really expecting it to handle as well as the M2.

6:30 did I just low-key got rick-rolled?

RS3 all day

As the Supra used in the comparison is tuned, I wonder how much perceived better throttle response and shift points were due to tuning. I have a Stage 1+ RS3 (both ECU and TCU tuning with all bolt ons but downpipe) and that transforms the throttle response and shift points. The turbo lag is also lessened. I would imagine this skewed the “feel” for the Supra, considering how the same kind of tuning transformed my RS3. Another key thing to note: RS3 also sees 500-515 whp with E85, similar to the Supra. The biggest thing going for the Supra is the weight and two door, two seater chasis. This really makes the tuned 380hp feel faster and better put to the ground.

Great review, correct information too. Only thing I heard was you said DAZA these new 8Ys have a DNWC motor, DAZA was 17-18, DNWA 19-20, DNWC for the 8Ys. But definitely looking forward to the review of your build process. I've had a BMW 340 MPPSK with a stage 2 tune and of course my rs3 which was stage 2 then and the rs3 was quicker. Stock to stock I believe my rs3 was quicker, possibly the supra being lighter might be quicker? But these are 2 fantastic engines the B58 and the Audi 5 cylinder.. Great review tho!

Road test review should have been done with the Audi in rs mode and dynamic. In auto the car is more geared for easy Sunday drives, not ripping through the canyons. 90% of other rs3 reviews, the drivers raved on how much fun the car was tossing into corners

I agree with pretty much all of those points EXCEPT the point of how they both sound. The RS3's unique 5 cylinder sound is just iconic. It wasn't truly heard in the videos. The RS3 is by far one the best sounding cars ever, and definitely takes the cake when compared to any I6 motor.

If you only knew , RS3 all day baby .

Nice review! I really dig the A3's vibe and the RS3 is amazing. The Supra is growing on me in the styling department, but I still wish Toyota developed their own engine for it. (I know, I know, that ship has sailed.) 😀

Nice comparo, although I second the opinion that a TT RS would’ve been more ‘apples to apples’. What it lacks in torque splitter tricks it makes up for in weight, speed and interior design.

Quick question are you running 18x11 square setup? Your fitment on the Supra looks amazing

Great comparo that does makes sense as both cars are priced closely and, having driven both, I agree with your conclusion. If you don't need the extra seats, go with the Supra... overall a better, vigoral sports car with the RS3 being a little more well rounded.

Nothing like a CA canyon run!

you can mod that rs3 equally if not better

The BMW and Audi rivalry means the RS3 and Supra are often compared against one another. I think the more interesting match-up would be TTRS vs Supra.

You speak as if the DAZA doesn’t have crazy tuning potential but the B58 does. This whole review just sounded a little biased from the start

Supra , the b58 is a beast. Better transmission and it’s a dedicated sports car . It’s BMW vs Audi

RS3 for me (if I could afford it).

Got my RS3 new back in 2018, she’s still a beast.

No opportunity to drive a stock 2022 or 2023 Supra??? Its more like apples and cucumbers comparison since you tested a stock RS3 back to back with a modded Supra with a tune, better tires, and upgraded suspension. I am a fan of both, but its always a better comparison when you can test stock vs stock to get the most honest impressions.

Bro rick rolled us with the rs3 screen hahaha

Why don't you do a comparison between the RS3 and M440 GC?

You can’t compare a tuned car vs a stock rs3 You should’ve tuned a stage 1 e85 rs3 to be apples to apples

How would you compare the B7 RS to this new RS3 (size and performance wise)?

Beo rickrolled us in a car review 💀

Damn! I own this yellow Supra for 2 and a half years and it's really fun. The downside is the lack of practicability. Now i saw the RS3 four weeks ago and i'm hot for it. But the price for a new one says "No".

This is the video I wanted lol

I have a 2020 audi s3 right now, with only 11k km on it, thinking of getting the manual supra in 2yrs since rs3 isnt available in canada

I've only been to 4 HPDE track weekends but that said of these two I would pick RS3. Well once you start adding power you add heat, so maybe a stage 1 on RS3. I also dealt with lots of wet track days and I personally think maybe the AWD RS3 would help. The RS3 new AWD system sort of reduces under steer that is good. Also I've heard several people say the supra has bad wind buffering with windows down, that alone gets me not to buy it. I really like the look of Supra better than most cars.

What road is that

What about the rs3 vs the m340i. Is this comparable or nah

I’ve been going back and forth on these two cars for like a year now 😭😭

The underbelly of the Audi is VW with a better suit. The Supra is just legendary and a dedicated sports car. It's just a let down that BMW produced this engine. A reformed 2JZ would have been nice but the production costs would be prohibitive even for Toyota.

RS3 for daily driving & Supra for track/weekend!

my mans really rick rolled us via dashboard

Comparing the RS3 to a BMW M is also an unfair comparison. The M is great in the summer for performance driving. The RS3 is a daily performance machine. The RS3 would make it through the snow here in Michigan that a BMW would be stuck or a roadside ornament in. Plus the RS3 is a better-looking vehicle in my opinion. Same for the comparison with the Supra. The Supra is too cramped to be used as a daily driver. If you can afford and want a summer-only car, get a BMW or Supra. You want a daily driver that will hang with the performance machines and get you to work in bad weather.... RS3 is the choice.

No-one commenting about the "Sexy iPhone" and "Never Gonna Give You Up"?🤣🤣🤣

I’ll take that Audi rs3

One is a company car and one is a personal car

Is manual shifting with supra automatic as fast as the RS3?

Audi without a doubt

How much does a m3-m4 comp go for $110k? Or RS3 for 55k? And full bolt ons and tune for like 6 grand if you wish. I’ll keep my RS3 just makes more sense for the price. Legendary 5 cyl . Like the Supra own an older but the new ones feel a bit to small for me like my old focus rs.

RS3 all the way. Got a 2019 RS3 Stage 2 on E, 670awhp.

Dedicated…keyword. My butt-dyno speaks to me as well 😆 .

In the RS3, if you want it to downshift in auto more aggressively, you needed to have the car in sport mode.

Put it in RS mode and it will downshift genius

I would pick an Audi over a Toyota rice rocket every day, but knowing this Toyota is really a BMW, I just might pick the BMW. I don’t even know how this makes sense. My brain is fried…

Put it in performance mode it’s super aggressive on shifting

I'm a slight bit into the video but it's irritating me that you are complaining on shift speeds/programming. Yet you are running in normal automatic mode. If you want faster/sporty shifting then put it in one of those modes. Very annoying that you create the very situation you are griping about.

"Frankly this is just more of a dedicated sports car than the RS3". Wonder if he's referring to the modified sports car; is it a better canyon carver too 🤷. This is some profound stuff right here lmao.

First time I've heard the word "recalcitrant" in a car review 😆

BMW makes drivers cars, enough said. Toyota did well with the B58 / ZF tune for the Supra, the M2 is better for performance driving, M240i a great buy for a daily. RS3, same deal… Oversteer, turbo lag, dud dynamics, sold by its sprint times - nothings changed.

You can’t compare a tuned car with one that’s not.

Compare a jb4 rs3 with a splash of e85 and make 470whp. Only fair

I’m deciding between the two. Plus for the Audi is 4-door, AWD, 5-cylinder engine, no mods need for looks. Supra will need better wheels like TE37s. That’s 4k+. B58 is equally as appealing as the 5-cylinder. Downside for Supra is a 2 door.

i drove an 8v stage 2 450hp, decided to wait for an 8y, months of waiting with dealers asking 5-10K markup, and already 10k more msrp than the 8v.... and figure another 6-8K for bolt ons/ecy and tcu tune..... almost 90k for an amazing engine but an average car. i'd rather get an m5, m3, or gtr for that kind on money.

At the beginning you said you left the Audi in Automatic mode. But you said you put the Supra in Sport. And at the end you confused the RS3 saying it was the one lacking in rear space.

The mod potential is rs3 over supra no?

Bmw really did a good job with der Zupra

If you really love driving get the supra, you won't regret it.

Supra sounds amazing, looks amazing and is faster . Supra for the win

Anytime i see an rs3 or w/e on the highway i’m just not wow’ed. Probably because they are quite common, just like porsches. Not to say they arenMt nice cars though. But a supra… in about 100.000 km driven on highways in two years, i’ve seen maybe one or two. Probably seen them less than a lambo.

RS3 about 10k more not even fully optioned out… so yea…

This is why I chose to go with a BMW X3 m40i. It's legitimately the perfect vehicle for daily driving and has the same 382 HP B58. With just a little simple tuning I've got 420 to the wheels 415tq. A few more upgrades and I'll be close to or past 600wheel HP. H&R lowering springs, X3M sway bars and it corners like an SUV shouldn't be able to. I just wish I had the money to also get a Supra lol

Supra/bmw is a REAL CAR, RWD transmission. That Golf RS3 is a haldex garbage transmission "permanent fwd" and even in very limited time when it rolling awd.. is still a highly FRONT bias transmission. Doesn't matter engines as long as power is nothing without controll and SPORT road holding (rs3 is as any fwd.. strong understeering machine)

@3:11 reconstrwhat??? Huh

Comparing an rs3 to an m4 comp💀

You're comparing a coupe designed and meant for as a performance package to a small size sedan that's been beefied up to accept more power. Not really fair comparing at all and nothing really new learned from this that hasn't been said about each car. Compare the supra to rs5 coupe or ttrs and it might be more comparable for those wanting luxury performance coupes.

Supra or new BMW in general has no steering feel. I had more fun in an Audi. It feels more Porsche like. Probably just because of materials, similar tech and seating position.

Audi any day, anytime. No question

we need VR6 turbo not inline-5 turbo

Try it in manual mode. Audi dsg destroys every competition except Porsche. People that leave it on auto should never buy a dual clutch, because you’re missing the point.

Oh come on, why won’t Audi just give the gearbox a centre diff?

For a daily the RS3 is tough to beat. It’s a great car. The new Supra with the manual gets my vote though.

Supra is faster . I raced my friends and gapped him in my GR Supra 3.0

I have seen the RS3 compared to the BMW M240i, which shared the same motor as the current Supra

VERY UNIQUE. What does it mean? FFS.

To anyone watching and are not aware, he is comparing a tuned Supra vs a stock RS3 Pointless if you ask me

he like the supra more

1700 ft elevation isn’t significant especially for a boosted car.

I don't trust reviews from people who use words like "recalcitrant" @3m10s.......

Rs3 just bc what iroz is doing to them lmfao

Comparing a brand new rs3 vs a 2020 Supra should of been a 22 or 21 atleast

It's Toyota supraaaaa 👍👍👍

Me gusta los autos para mis hijos

The only positive on the Audi is, that it can transport 5 people instead of 2. In Terms of sporty driving the concept is for sure not as good as the Supra. Sportscars are better in doing Sportscar things. Still a fun video to watch. Not your ordinary comparison :-D

audi beats it big time

Pontiac put wider tires on the front of the Grand Prix GTX. I think. Audi need to stop playing and go to rear wheel drive base.

Too bad the RS3 has the haldex awd and not the torsen one from the higher end models. This alone makes it a gimmiky car and not a true sports car like the Supra, you simply can't beat rwd.

The heart of Supra is bmw not Toyota

M4 all day

Don't trust the B58 motor (known for oil consumption) and Supra looks fugly. Went RS3...may not be as good on a roadcourse but better street car imo and easy to tune

Please not a sedan... dont ruin the RS3!!! 5cyl engine also in production on Audi RSQ3 and Cupra Formentor VZ5.

Audi rs3>Bmw z4

The interior quality of the RS3 is crap. You sit in this car and scratch your head if its worth the 65k. Fun fact is that even Audi boast about using recycled materials in the cabin. Quality wise, the Supra has a much better interior.

RS3 all day for me. Supra looks awkward and has bad ergonomics. No thanks.

you lost me at ''better to drive'' i thought you were going to say faster...

so BMW WIns huh

iPhone 3? Who still has iPhone 3?