2023 BACKPACKING SLEEPING PAD AWARDS

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👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
WARMEST - Thermarest Xtherm: geni.us/xtherm
ULTRALIGHT - Thermarest Xlite: geni.us/XliteNXT
ULTRALIGHT - Big Agnes Zoom UL: geni.us/ZoomUL
ULTRALIGHT - Nemo Tensor: geni.us/NemoTensor
AFFORDABLE - Paria Recharge XL: geni.us/PariaRechargeXL
COMFORTABLE - Sea to Summit Ether Light XT: geni.us/EtherLightXT
COMFORTABLE - Big Agnes Q-Core/Boundary: geni.us/Q-CoreDeluxe
HONORABLE - Rab Ionosphere: geni.us/RabIonosphere
HONORABLE - Exped Ultra 5R: geni.us/Exped5R
BEST ALL-AROUNDER - REI Helix: geni.us/HelixSleepingPad
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⭐ MY FAVORITE GEAR ⭐
Garmin InReach Mini: geni.us/InReachMini2
Decathlon Down Jacket - geni.us/Trek100DownJacketM
REI Flash 55 Pack: geni.us/Flash55
Enlightened Equipment Enigma Quilt: geni.us/enigmadown
Garmin Fenix Watch: geni.us/FenixWatch
Lanshan 1 Pro Tent: geni.us/Lanshan1Pro
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X-T4 Camera: geni.us/FujiX-T4
GoPro Hero 10: geni.us/GoPro-Hero-10
Insta360 One X2: geni.us/Insta360-OneX2
Rode Wireless Mic: geni.us/Rode-Wireless
Samsung S10E Phone: geni.us/Samsung-S10e
Saramonic Phone Mic: geni.us/PhoneMic
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@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

What's your favorite sleeping pad? 👇 PADS FROM THE VIDEO 👇 WARMEST - Thermarest Xtherm: geni.us/xtherm ULTRALIGHT - Thermarest Xlite: geni.us/XliteNXT ULTRALIGHT - Big Agnes Zoom UL: geni.us/ZoomUL ULTRALIGHT - Nemo Tensor: geni.us/NemoTensor AFFORDABLE - Paria Recharge XL: geni.us/PariaRechargeXL COMFORTABLE - Sea to Summit Ether Light XT: geni.us/EtherLightXT COMFORTABLE - Big Agnes Q-Core/Boundary: geni.us/Q-CoreDeluxe HONORABLE - Rab Ionosphere: geni.us/RabIonosphere HONORABLE - Exped Ultra 5R: geni.us/Exped5R BEST ALL-AROUNDER - REI Helix: geni.us/HelixSleepingPad

@scottyplug Жыл бұрын

Have you tested out the Big Agnes Rapide SL? Seems like a happy medium between the Core and the Zoom. Hike on, J Money Gangster!

@jonne1762 Жыл бұрын

Also good affordable sleeping pad: exped versa 4R M

@bimazivanovic4784 Жыл бұрын

Could you review Naturehike 5.8/Lighttour 5.8,it would mean a lot. Thanks

@TheMadmacs 10 ай бұрын

ul80 + old school 12mm foam pad on top would beat any of those 200 dollar pads.

@scottyplug 10 ай бұрын

@@TheMadmacs what’s the ul80?

@johncycling6299 Жыл бұрын

Big Agnes Rapide SL. Best compromise of weight / warmth / comfort. We have the double.

@boone473 Жыл бұрын

Excellent content as always! I usually have trouble getting good sleep outdoors and these comparison videos have helped me find more comfortable equipment. Thank you!

@aleksandrsnaidjonovs1462 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a brief review! Happy with my Nemo Tensor. "Real" warmth to weight to comfort is outstanding.

@dudeymcduderson Жыл бұрын

I had the Sea to Summit Ether Lite XT Extreme and ended up selling it. It was comfy, but not warm at all. The Thermarest XTherm is still the king in my book.

@thek3743 Жыл бұрын

Yes, sea to summit pads are very cold as I found out myself... Now very happy with nemo tensor insulated

@oO2Pro4UOo Жыл бұрын

Is it to warm for summer? Or is this not the case? Can i use it all year ?🤔

@dudeymcduderson 11 ай бұрын

@@oO2Pro4UOo it'll be fine for summer, but using it below zero was uncomfortable. For me anyway. I found there's cold spots when you move round in the night. I think it's where the insulation moves and cold air replaces the warm air. Not the best design imho.

@dickfartboy3204 11 ай бұрын

@@oO2Pro4UOo I belive you asked @dudeymcduderson if the XTHERM was too hot for summer and I believe they replied that the ETHER LITE was fine for summer but a bad/cold design 😮

@XanderBudnick 10 ай бұрын

Same here

@brucecggallagher1949 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your apparent thoroughness and explanations of the pros and cons of the various pads that. you checked. Cheers from Victoria, BC (I subscribed)

@mitchymitchOutdoors Жыл бұрын

The Helix is an awesome pad with a great price, but I love my NEMO Tensor. I find that filling sleeping pads to about 90% gives me the best night sleep on trail. Helps avoid any pressure points that may cause a limb to go numb.

@PuffyTacos 6 ай бұрын

Very helpful, thank you. Just the right amount of details, while also getting to the point. Excellent video.

@mylenenakano4470 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this amazing video! I'm from Brazil and I intend to camping in USA on September. Thank you a lot!!!

@barbara-holley Жыл бұрын

my husband and I LOVE our Paria Recharge XL. Worth every penny. We got our for $80 3 years ago and has been our go to ever since.

@NikhilShahi 9 ай бұрын

Agree. I love my Recharge XL too. Has been on many long backpacking trips. I just purchased the Recharge DW which is the double width version (48 inches wide) for shorter hiking trips or when I am camping close to my car. It is fantastic as it is nice and wide.

@barbara-holley 9 ай бұрын

@@NikhilShahi Hell yes that sounds incredible!!

@raunking5234 Жыл бұрын

The Helix I got from REI has been great. They had them on sale for a while last year where it was something like $60. It's been great for car camping and staying overnight at a friend's house. I don't know how well it will work for me in cold temps, but i'm really happy with the comfort. Thanks for the review!

@CarlosDangerTheThird Жыл бұрын

Nice! Its $112 on sale right now

@crebrown5989 Жыл бұрын

Informative, need a video like this for tents.

@detch5307 4 ай бұрын

Just exactly the review I was looking for. Great job.

@AndyBB- 11 ай бұрын

The sea to summit comfort plus xt with the dual air chambers has been my go to for the last three years. Something about it just blows everything else out of the water

@jjlansing11 Жыл бұрын

I'm Canadian and just bought a Helix pad in the US while I was there because of your previous video. It was 30% off so helped with the exchange rate.

@fronds. Жыл бұрын

Great round up, thank you Justin!

@alanstrange2421 Жыл бұрын

I'm a die-hard hammock camper but am doing a trip next month where I'll have to use a tent. I picked up a Big Agnes Rapide and spent one night on my living room floor and 2 nights on trail. I found it to be pretty comfortable, but needed something larger (I had gotten the 66"x20" version). I wound up going with a Nemo Tensor (insulated, regular wide) which is longer and wider while being a decent amount lighter than a comparably sized Rapide would have been. It's not as thick, but is actually quite comfortable. I gave it the living room floor test last night and slept through the night. So we'll see how it does on trail.

@theblackneon5396 5 ай бұрын

Sleeping pad with a chair-kit, like exped, in a hammock is absolutely brilliantly comfortable. Like sitting to read on a cloud.

@alanstrange2421 5 ай бұрын

@@theblackneon5396 - Cool idea.

@KirstenBayes Жыл бұрын

Mighty summary from the sleeping pad expert! Pretty much exactly match my experiences.

@die_lauch_bande7121 7 ай бұрын

For me i switched last Winter from my NeoAir Xtherm to a Exped Ultra 7r because the NeoAir sounds like a Bag of Chips, I move a lot during sleep so it was to noisy for me. The neo air is lighter and more compact but I sacrafice the waight and volume for a way better sleep. Still two good pads would recomed both 100% but if you move alot during sleep the NeoAir can be noisy

@TheCanadianXplorer 10 ай бұрын

Have you ever tryed the Rapid SL from Big Agnes? I am considering purchasing that one 🤔

@barneybrightbart7080 29 күн бұрын

Fantastic comprehensive review of the options! Have you tried the Big Agnes Rapide SL? Many thanks for your insights and experience!

@RobyDorsett 7 ай бұрын

Justin, would love your opinion. I am getting older and my back is now struggling. I have been a hammock guy for a while, but my last trip, I was pretty miserable. This is with some top of the line backpacking hammocks. So, looking at going back to the ground. I have been looking at Sea to summit Ether Light XT Insulated Air rec wide (25) regular and the Sea to Summit Comfort Plus XT Insulated Air wide (25) regular. Have you tried that one? it is heavy, but with my base packweight of 7.5lbs to 8lbs, I am fine adding another 1lb **IF** it is comfy. I don't go super cold...40 to 45F at the lowest. Would love your thoughts compared to the REI you mentioned....thanks!

@CheeseOnEverything 8 ай бұрын

My favorite is the nemo tensor alpine. Quilted pattern and you can feel the pad give you a heated seat feeling radiating ur own body heat right back the second u lay on it.

@bluebooper 10 ай бұрын

We appreciate you Justin!!

@smashedhulk8492 Жыл бұрын

Very well done comparison.

@elr05 Жыл бұрын

I keep coming back to Nemo Tensor Insulated, 25 inches. I bought the Xtherm Wide bc I camp in the Sierra and it gets so cold and thought I needed all the warmth. But I finally have to admit to myself after many attempts that I can’t sleep on a mummy pad. I’m so uncomfortable that I can’t sleep and get frustrated. So I’m using the foam Decathalon pad with my insulated Nemo Tensor to give a bit higher R value.

@33sosa85 Жыл бұрын

You know the xtherm nxt comes on max version?

@CAM-hc8ip Жыл бұрын

Just picked up an REI Helix from their Memorial day sale! Can't wait to compare it to my SeatoSummit EtherLight XT to see if it's going to replace it as my go-to in the non-summer months

@zachcooper7225 Жыл бұрын

I got mine in yellow when they switched to the blue color. I believe I payed $52 with shipping. Wait for a sale guys and gals!!

@edmarr5209 Жыл бұрын

Same, I was also looking at the q core deluxe but ultimately went for the extra warmth and smaller size over comfort.

@TheyllNeverGetMe Жыл бұрын

The best affordable pad is hands down the air core ultra lineup from big Agnes. Often can be found under 100 and are basically always on sale as it seem like they are phasing out those pads.

@jeg569 8 ай бұрын

My Thermarest NeoAir has been surpassed at an R value of 2.5 then! My Exped Synmat 7 has a decent R value of 4.7, but a bit heavy for hiking with.

@gman963 Жыл бұрын

I really like Klymit pads too. They're surprisingly comfy for side sleepers like me. They have super wide options at 30 inches, and they're really inexpensive. You just have to be careful if you're picky about the valve because I think different styles use different valves and it's hard to tell which one is on there.

@elisebrown5157 2 ай бұрын

Could you do a follow-up comparison using the newer Nemo Tensor insulated pads, like the All-Season (R value 5.4) and the Extreme (R value 8.5) (and the Alpine (R value 4.8) , though I think that one is discontinued.) They are all 3-3.5 inches thick and have the quilted baffle style. I'd like to know how they compare to the Thermarest Xtherm for warmth in real-world conditions and how they compare for comfort with your comfort choices. Thanks!!

@gustavsberzins7230 Жыл бұрын

Have you looked into decathlon's offering? There's forclaz mt500 air mat with R value of 3.3 and costing 75€/80€ depending on which size you choose.

@summittaedae2323 Жыл бұрын

I have put all my trust in exped pads. I have 5 various r values. We are very limited to good gear in Scotland. Very few stores stock winter camping kit.

@bimazivanovic4784 Жыл бұрын

How comfortable are they? I'm interested in Ultra 7r.

@summittaedae2323 Жыл бұрын

@@bimazivanovic4784 I’ve got the syn7medium and the syn7 long wide. All express are comfortable but I’d recommend the wide for a side sleeper. Virtually no noise from them. The only down mat I have is the downmat9m that’s so bulky but wow what a mat.

@user-tb1se2on4x Жыл бұрын

The real question should be durability. I've had very short lifetimes for the most expensive sleeping pads and also no-name brand pads that have lasted over 500 nights! These sot of tests can never really capture that, unfortunately :/

@SMafam5 9 ай бұрын

The longevity piece is my bigger concern. We have a pile that need assessment/attention in order to stay inflated over the course of a night. That’s an environmental impact that is not being discussed! With family life - car / trailer camping has been the focus so far, so foamies are more dependable. & budget for 4 people to backpack seems extreme as a “try it out” activity. We loved our pre-kid backpacking excursions though!

@SMafam5 9 ай бұрын

And that crinkly sound issue becomes the biggest dealbreaker when there are 4 of us!

@josephhaddakin7095 3 ай бұрын

Yup. I went thru several air pads that I used in bicycle touring. I got so tired of pinholes that I switched to an army surplus rubber bi√ch. A tad heavier but it ain't gonna leak. Foam pads make my old hips hurt so air pad is a priority.

@AdventureswithWillem Жыл бұрын

I agree the see 2 summit pads are comfortable, but they don't last, all those dimples after a while start leaking air. I know I have been through 2 of them.

@user-qg2zd1nv1r Жыл бұрын

I have a Exped ultra 5R and a insulated tensor. I will definitely go with Exped every time.

@tanvach 9 ай бұрын

The 5R certainly edges out, I find I slide around the Tensor way too much, and the raised edges of 5R do give a bit of support.

@boone473 Жыл бұрын

How warm is the Zoom UL compared to the Etherlite XT and Tensor? I've heard that the Zoom UL sleeps cold for its R-value rating.

@andrewchoffin7552 Жыл бұрын

Sold on Thermarests. Especially their guarantee!

@ryan92084 9 ай бұрын

Would like to see some tests on the zenbivy pads. Everyone tests the bed system but no one talks about the pads despite some pretty strong claims on their end.

@justasvalinskas1605 8 ай бұрын

Have you ever tested a Big Agnes Rapide SL? I heard that it's very comfortable and I wonder how it compares to Rei Helix?

@misterritter9854 Жыл бұрын

Between the Helix, Ether Light and Q-Core would you say one stands out as feeling the least what I would call "balloony" for an air pad. I'm trying to find out if I can manage an air pad, my first attempts unfortunately were horizontal baffles and they were awful on my back (scoliosis). I have been intrigued by pads with quilted baffles, but have read certain models can still feel "balloony". Thanks in advance, always enjoy your videos!

@Swearengen1980 7 ай бұрын

I have back/neck issues from a car accident and am a terrible sleeper. The best pad I've found for me (as a side sleeper) is the Big Agnes Rapide.

@misterritter9854 7 ай бұрын

@@Swearengen1980 Appreciate the reply! I tried to rapide a few months ago and was pretty happy with it.

@isaaclejeune5389 Жыл бұрын

Have you noticed differences in reliability ex. Build quality, durability, quality of the welds etc

@GypsyGirl317 Жыл бұрын

I'm keen to know these things too.

@thek3743 Жыл бұрын

had problems with sea to summit weld, no problems so far with nemo tensor.

@rungavagairun Жыл бұрын

5:00 Made me laugh when you said you might not want to take some of those colder pads out in the spring when the ground is still frozen. I live in Arkansas and the ground rarely freezes in the coldest part of the winter. It all depends on where you live and where your trip will be.

@joh8379 6 ай бұрын

Can you review the big agnes rapide sl. This would be awesome 😊

@kohort1 11 ай бұрын

Do all of these bottom out when you sit up in them? And do they all stay all the way pressured by morning time? I have the exped ultra 5r and even when it's pumped all the way, my butt bottoms out when i sit up. Also by morning time it loses some pressure but still comfy if I'm laying flat. I can seem to see bubbles under water. I appreciate anyone's comments with their experiences.

@shangobango77 Жыл бұрын

I just keep coming back to the Xtherm. The new NXT Max version has been awesome with about 20 nights on it so far. Much quieter than the old model, better R value, and an inch thicker. I wish I was sleeping on it tonite…

@thomas82311 5 ай бұрын

Termasrest suck

@danielsingh9415 Жыл бұрын

Bought the Helix online REi 30% off US$112+$20 shipping to 🇨🇦, as they were out of stock in Bellingham, thx Justin (gotta support the channel, right?) Tho 40% off Nemo Tensor insulated rw, it was a hard decision, but I'm likely gonna be shaped tarp stealth camping to offset & need a bit more durability. Just waiting for Paria Outdoors Breeze Mesh Bivy to be back in stock & I'm set 😉

@jjlansing11 Жыл бұрын

I'm Canadian and was just in the US and was faced with the same decision. Went in to get a Helix 30% off but saw the Nemo Tensor 40% and had a decision to make. I still went with the Helix.

@mariusengelsen7194 9 ай бұрын

@JustinOutdoors Have you ever tried the Sea To Summit Comfort Plus XT? Is it the most comfortable pad available?

@brendonkassel6989 Жыл бұрын

Please help Justin! We have very limited options in South Africa so I am looking at buying a lightweight tent but the problem is it has a full mesh inner (other than the bathtub floor). Even though our temperatures don’t get too cold (relatively speaking to your cold climates) we get high levels of wind and possibly snow when on the top of peaks in the mountains (probably no less than -6 Celsius nor more than 60km/h wind gusts) but I also run cold in general ie Hike cold, sleep cold so I am terrified of the mesh inner. But I love the tent so much I’m wondering if I just invest in a great sleep system whether that will compensate any potential cold issues - ie a sub zero sleeping bag, as well as an Xtherm (or even Xlite with it new higher R-value). Do you think this would negate the airy/potential cold of an inner mesh tent (it will also have a 20D 4000mm fly). I am just terrified of the cold and froze in the last one I used (where temperature probably never went below freezing - but I used no sleep system then other than a roll mat and a 6 degree sleeping bag (although I was wearing thermals, fleece tops/bottoms, down jacket, rain jacket, gloves and beanie). So would you recommend the Xtherm to help keep me warm in this situation or would it not make a big difference. If so do you think Xlite could do the trick? Or lastly, get a more fabric made inner tent? I mostly hike 3 seasons but when o. Top of mountains especially in the the Cape & the Drakensberg, it can get to 0degrees with high winds during the night. What shld I do?! Pls help 🤯

@maxwellerickson7066 Жыл бұрын

Your sleep system will make vastly more difference than your tent inner, and I find that a mesh inner is actually even more useful in winter because it mitigates condensation. I recently did a backcountry trip where I only camped on snow and I used a 3-season tent with a mesh inner in high wind conditions. I don't necessarily recommend that, but I can tell you I was plenty warm because I had a sufficient sleeping bag and pad(s) to handle the temperature (-12C was the low). I would say that only full-on proper mountaineering requires true winter expedition-style tents.

@brendonkassel6989 Жыл бұрын

@@maxwellerickson7066 I really appreciate this. I really love the mesh tent but am so scared of the cold-I never even thought that it could be balanced by the fact it creates less condensation. So thank you for your feedback!

@idomana5770 Жыл бұрын

Just the one concern I have with the REI is frozen ground, I used REI airtrail and felt the cold 🥶

@EricFleming231 Жыл бұрын

I am v happy with my Paria

@kevinguthrie5495 Жыл бұрын

I too am interested in reliability, like how many nights can I expect to get from a particular model before I wake up on the ground? Which manufacturers make the most reliable pads?

@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Your bets bet is to read reviews on the sites of big retailers. I could comment on my personal experience, but that is one data point. The construction of the pad will factor into reliability but is still not a really good indicator.

@spudeify 9 ай бұрын

At 5'9” is regular wide nxt xtherm enough? Thanks!

@TelosBudo Жыл бұрын

You test the new Big Agnes Boundary Series. There's 3 new pads with different sizes

@boredandagitated Жыл бұрын

What do you think about durability in these? I’d be willing to sacrifice some weight and price and maybe even warmth for a durable pad that’s comfortable

@thek3743 Жыл бұрын

had a leak on sea to summit, never on nemo tensor so far.

@grimlightwildoutdoors Жыл бұрын

🤔 we’re is the new Nature Hike r5.8 pad in this test a pad that matches the xtherm but at a fraction of the cost, it’s lighter and packs smaller too a pad that beats all the pads in your list I have the longer version it’s an awesome pad, you have really missed out here 👍😀❤️ great channel . The Paria pad is not a rebranded version of this mat not even close totally new technology and heat retention system on the NatureHike pad.

@shawnsockaci Жыл бұрын

The Paria pad is a rebranded naturehike pad. I believe Paria is a rebranding of naturehike products with an added lifetime warranty.

@falcoperegrinus82 2 ай бұрын

Are these repairable if they spring a leak? Do any come with patch kits?

@user-xu2wk1cf2q 11 ай бұрын

Q-core 非常赞！

@kyramckenna7990 Жыл бұрын

So I’m fixed on the new Thermarest xlite nxt max from ur other recent video! Why didn’t u review it here too? Or is it not comfortable as the rest 🤪. Love to know!! Toats confused

@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

The xlite naxt max is just a squared version of the xlite nxt. So everything I said about the xlite applies

@ericm9406 Жыл бұрын

hello Justin, I am looking for a new mattress, with a weight/durability/comfort ratio. I hesitate between the Nemo tensor, the Big Agnès Zoom UL and the Sea to Summit Etherlight insulated XT women. in advance thank you very much.

@thek3743 Жыл бұрын

Nemo Tensor Insulated wins for me. Very warm (compared to other pads with same r-value), light, comfortable, quiet and sturdy. Btw: for me personally your comfort therory makes no sense. Dimples are no isolated 'springs'. Simply put less pressure into the pad.

@shaunlehman9158 Жыл бұрын

Got the rapid sl and I really like it

@simongee8928 10 ай бұрын

I'm still using my 30 year old Thermarest. Its never let me down. 😊

@twhis9843 2 ай бұрын

Same here. Got 4 of them, Cascade Designs in Seattle. We’ve folded them in half lengthwise to roll them up. Used them continuously for 6 months on a bike trip and have done hundreds of backpacking trips including winter snow trips. Great piece of equipment.

@amorphousblob6105 9 ай бұрын

I returned my REI Helix b/c it was so darn heavy.

@blizzardseth2 11 ай бұрын

Have you tried the Klymit pads?

@North_Of_Nowhere Жыл бұрын

Zempire Monstalite Thermo wins hands down for me, super comfy, warm, packs away small, cheap in comparison to most of these aaaand it's big so no rolling off it by accident in the middle of the night, unfortunately it has hardly any video's on it

@jimmeyer9417 Жыл бұрын

That’s cause it’s a 2.9 R-value and 1500 grams, too heavy and not very warm, plus Zempire isn’t well known outside Australasia

@markswishereatsstuff2500 Жыл бұрын

Have to add small velcro strips to my Nemo Tensor to keep from sliding around my Dyneema floor of my Tarptent Rainbow Li.

@bertman4 Жыл бұрын

I don't know about Velcro. I've heard that you can paint your sleeping pad with diluted seam sealer which will make them slightly sticky and stop them from sliding around. But I haven't tried it so please do some research first.

@markswishereatsstuff2500 Жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Anyone else heard of this method?

@elr05 Жыл бұрын

The common things I’ve heard of to reduce slipping is dots or zig zag lines of seal sealer, or strips of kitchen shelf or drawer rolls, or the material that keeps a rug from slipping. I use a small amount of the shelf roll and it works well.

@chriswhite2714 Жыл бұрын

How come there isn't a Thermarest Trail Pro review by anybody I know it's a bit big but for comfort they are in a league on there own 👊👍🥃

@vinoto Жыл бұрын

No rapide sl?

@gabslefloch755 Жыл бұрын

Personally I really like the horizontal baffles on the latest thermarest pads

@higler. Жыл бұрын

Me too, I find it to provide much more back support than the vertical baffles on my big agnes.

@Eindkaas Жыл бұрын

But are you a side sleeper or back/belly?

@judyjrasmussen339 10 ай бұрын

I noticed you said nothing about the Klymit pads. I find them to be rather durable and comfortable as a side/ stomach sleeper who moves around a lot. Not highly insulated but as a pad I don’t slide off of at all, which will immediately take you to 0 comfort & 0 warmth, a good buy for the $$.

@sockymcblackface7698 6 ай бұрын

As long as you know what they are. I bought mine with a 4.2 r value, and it got to about -3°C. I froze my butt off, as you said, the insulation is not there. Very comfortable, and im a side sleeper, durable, but its the last klymit product I will purchase due to dangerous false advertising. I'll keep this one for a spare.

@MrKuken911 Жыл бұрын

So where does the BA Rapide SL fall in your ranking these days? Fairly recently, it was among your favorite pads if I recall correctly.

@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

You're confusing me with someone else :). The Rapide has never been a top pad for me. I don't find it very warm and is heavy relative to similarly comfortable pads. It would probably be a good honorable mention.

@MrKuken911 Жыл бұрын

@@JustinOutdoors thanks for the response, and sorry for the confusion! I own both the Rapide SL and the S2S Ether Light XT. I'm a side sleeper and love both in terms of comfort. IMO they're very comparable. The one thing I prefer with the SL is that it's warmer 👍

@joker2100 Жыл бұрын

I see you have some tents setup in the background. Are we getting a tent overview video soon?

@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

May 23!

@GypsyGirl317 Жыл бұрын

@@JustinOutdoors love it, it's already evening on May 23 here in New Zealand. ❤️ 🌿 😁 Great overview of the sleeping pads, thank you!

@Sleepy7666 Ай бұрын

I think you need to try out the Exped Dura 8R especially since it's only 125.

@jeffreyfederico9931 10 ай бұрын

Have you tired Hest I have the pillow and love it

@RobertMoore-pt9ep Жыл бұрын

Which is more comfortable Helix or Zoom UL? Seem close to same RValue Zoom just a lot lighter

@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Helix is much more comfortable (for me) and warmer in real world conditions.

@RobertMoore-pt9ep Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the quick response. Great content as well!

@babygates Жыл бұрын

Still can't post links to share pack wizard setups 😞

@systempatcher 9 ай бұрын

I wish you would have included durability in your reviews. Many of these pads are rumored to have a very short lifespan due to design flaws and stress points.

@JustinOutdoors 9 ай бұрын

Durability is almost impossible to review. I can comment on the materials the product is made out, but that is about it. I could be testing the one pad with manufacturer defects or the only one without. Your best bet for durability is to look at a companies track record and sites with a ton of reviews like REI or Amazon (but still take those with a grain of salt).

@albertbrown8731 3 ай бұрын

Sorry if this is a weird question, but what are those pinkish/ reddish pants you are wearing at 7:25?

@grantgrow 10 ай бұрын

Greetings from Redwood Nat. Park. Is the Helix being discontinued? I see many reviews (on REI's site) questioning the durability of the helix.

@JustinOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

They updated it in 2023. Not sure how many reviews are out there with the new version.

@lorismith8479 Жыл бұрын

Xtherm Max 25” wide and super long

@semo7566 Жыл бұрын

Etherlite insulated women's version mummy 25 inch is lighter and warmer than insulated rectangular 25 inch version

@francoisguerin_1386 2 ай бұрын

What about Light tour R5.8 ?

@dotdot2723 8 ай бұрын

anyone have experience with kilos gear sleeping pad?

@Swearengen1980 7 ай бұрын

Big Agnes Rapide. Can't see the logic in showing the Q-Core at all. Warm enough for me, 26 oz (25x78), and very comfortable for this sioe sleeper.

@rulrich45 Жыл бұрын

Have you ever heard of Outdoor Vitals?

@JustinOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Yup! Going to be checking out their new pad and pack soon!

@willek1335 Жыл бұрын

0:25 7.3 R value + foam = a pad that can keep you warm at -50? How is that possible when 7.3 equals ~ -32C? How does that make sense?

@jakebrown3822 Жыл бұрын

Because 7.3 + 2 (Nemo Switchback, for example) = 9.3

@JessieGyrl7 Жыл бұрын

I need something durable and compact and comfortable but don’t care too much about weight because I’m moto camping and probably won’t have to carry it too far. But seems like all of these are super fragile 😅

@naughtyorgneiss 11 ай бұрын

Then get a memory foam mattress topper. No worrying about weight.

@Draovander Жыл бұрын

In the Ultralight category why did you not even mention the Thermarest Uberlite? Its R value isn't great and it does have the horizontal baffles you don't like and it is a little crinkly but it is also the lightest pad on the market. Don't you think that not even considering it in the UL category invalidates that part of your review a bit? Regarding its downsides I would never use it to sleep on frozen ground (like snow) but most of the time most backpackers don't backpack in temps below freezing because it is just less fun. I agree that cold backpacking is done and can be a great experience and we need a solution for that (which you acknowledge the best pad for that is the Therarest XTherm) but for the majority of the time the extra weight is wasted. Most of us don't live at Canadian latitudes. Like quilts no single product will get you through the whole year and even thru-hikers swap out their gear as conditions dictate. Regarding comfort and noise, well you are sleeping on the ground so things can only get so good but I acknowledge your point, if you are willing to carry twice the weight then you can probably make it marginally more comfortable. Noise - the Uberlite is the quietest of the Thermarest pads and only really matters if the wind is not blowing. If it is you probably have ear plugs in because your DCF tent is making way more noise and a pair of foam ear plugs are really light.

@leemclaren2518 Жыл бұрын

I wish REI stuff was more accessible in the UK 😔

@PD-we8vf 9 ай бұрын

Did you test Kilos?

@JustinOutdoors 9 ай бұрын

Highly advertised white label garbage. Also heavy and misleading with regards to warmth.

@nicholasseah2578 Жыл бұрын

Criminal that the Nemo Quasar 3D is not on this list 😭

@edmarr5209 Жыл бұрын

I was going to buy that one but seeing it in person, it was a little bit too bulky for backpacking. Comfort must be amazing though.

@dawnward8902 Жыл бұрын

I have the uninsulated Quasar 3 D and it isn’t bulky but it sure is comfortable.

@naughtyorgneiss 11 ай бұрын

Yeah this should have been in the list. Only 3.3 r-value on insulated but I hear it's crazy comfortable and competes with big Agnes q-core in weight at 2lbs

@armored-clown Жыл бұрын

How about a sleeping pad that doesn’t deflate during the night? Have owned so many sleeping pads even expensive Big Agnes pads and they all lose air…

@maxwellerickson7066 Жыл бұрын

I have a Big Agnes rapide sl and have never had this problem. You may find some benefit using a sleeping pad inflator or inflation bag rather than your breath, because in cold temperatures, the moisture in your breath may actually reduce sleeping pad warmth and loft.

@armored-clown Жыл бұрын

@@maxwellerickson7066 yeah I have had 2 Big Agnes core ultras. 1 uninsulated and 1 insulated and they both leak out of the box brand new. Always use a tiny air pump and never use my breath. My $30 Amazon pad doesn’t even leak…

@maxwellerickson7066 Жыл бұрын

@@armored-clown Yeah, that's a pretty unlucky track record, sorry about that. I've found BA to be pretty great about warranty claims, so if you do the bathtub / spritz trick and still can't find the leak I would contact them.

@siruthecat 9 ай бұрын

Weight of Rab ionosphere is 655g.

@MeOutside Жыл бұрын

I can’t do 20” pads, I need a 25”; I fall off 20”.

@MrWipex 9 ай бұрын

The Sea to Summit etherlight xt is a great sleeping pad if it lasts more than 20 nights, which it doesn’t!! The air spring holes weldings will start leaking. Expensive light weight crap!

@prawnstar9213 11 ай бұрын

Are you paid by Thermarest?

@firemarshaldil Жыл бұрын

Just no love for the si models? (Personally find them all the be 10x as comfy as regular inflatable)

@naughtyorgneiss 11 ай бұрын

Si?

@firemarshaldil 11 ай бұрын

@@naughtyorgneiss self inflating. While they don't actually fully self inflate, they're a combination of foam and air. I find them to be a lot more comfy.

@naughtyorgneiss 11 ай бұрын

@firemarshaldil ah good point. What happens if u get a hole in si? Can u still sleep on the foam ok? Was thinking maybe it's just better to get a thick foam pad (moto camping only bc of weight)