2023 GWM ORA Australia Electric Vehicle Walkaround Test Drive Review
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Күн бұрын24 hours with 2023 GWM Ora EV including walkaround, test drive, AC home charging, DC charging, city handling and review in Sydney Australia by Tesla Tom of Ludicrous Feed September 2023
2023 GWM ORA Australia Electric Vehicle Walkaround Test Drive Review
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00:00 Introduction
00:18 Exterior Walkaround
03:07 Key Specs
04:30 Bonnet
04:56 Driver Seat Lookaround
11:30 Second Row Lookaround
13:06 Infotainment Screen Walkthrough
21:41 AC Charging Test
24:23 Day Test Drive
38:36 Night Test Drive
40:52 DC Charging Test
41:45 Summary
43:54 Final Drive
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Ludicrous Feed is a Sydney-based KZfaq channel that started in 2018 after Tom purchased his Tesla Model S. He wanted to show the reality of Australian daily life with his family and an electric vehicle. Tom provides straightforward candid insights into key issues around EV adoption such as vehicle range, charging infrastructure and road trip planning. The weekly live stream is an opportunity for industry guests to directly engage with audience members from the EV community. Tom also has a Tesla Powerwall 2 coupled with rooftop solar and has reviewed many other electric vehicles for the channel including brands such as Tesla, BYD, Polestar, Volvo, MG, Hyundai, Genesis, Kia and Cupra.
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@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
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@SirGregoryFamilyYouTube 10 ай бұрын
Your financial disclosure is something I wish other vloggers would follow.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
I’d like to be transparent moving forward
@vijgai3 10 ай бұрын
Looks great as a second car - city run about. Simple cars like this make transition to an EV easy for the older generation.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Probably makes it easier for a lot of people
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
Fits the second EV thing perfectly, until a Tesla model 2 arrives, I suspect that will be superior. MG4 and Dolphin probably fit that too.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@@lspeegs I agree on the Tesla Compact, but comparing base models of Ora, MG4 and Dolphin, the Ora wins for me (don't have to pay $1200 over 4 years for MG4 services for starters). MG4 is a great car to drive though.
@fatdoi003 10 ай бұрын
@@lspeegs Tesla never impressed me tbh... particularly its ergonomics doesn't suit my driving style.. a long range Dolphin or MG4 Xpower be nice.....
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
@@fatdoi003 I have respect for the base MG4, it looks after the driver well. The passengers not so much. I spent half the time as a driver and half as a passenger in the test drives. If I was a MG4 driver only, I think it would have had the advantage. Maybe it's just me who worries about the time I spend in the other seats.
@robnicholas7645 10 ай бұрын
I own an Ora and after the dealer showing me on a test drive, how to operate the indicators I have had no problems at all. It staggers me the the number of car experts that seem to have no end of trouble operating them!! They are so simple to use.
@ad_fletch 10 ай бұрын
Likely just looking for reasons to dislike the car…
@samirvasishth 10 ай бұрын
@@ad_fletchi did find it annoying at first. Unfortunately my dealer did not give me any tips 😂
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
After 24 hours I think I got the hang of it … 😅
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
I have a Tesla Y and ORA you can get the knack of the indicators. That said I don’t get why you have to, indicators in most other cars are good. That also annoys me jumping from one to the other frequently. My daughter doesn’t drive the Tesla and has master the indicators. Anyway maybe I’m old but why mess with indicators. They worked great in my 30 years of driving on all ice cars. I don’t like Tesla ones much either hard to dismiss at times, compared to a Holden, Ford, Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi etc.. all have decent simple indicators. You can live with them, but still not sure why you should have to adapt.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@@ad_fletch not at all.... there are quite a few YT reviewers who had the same issue (me included), though my partner didn't have a problem. Heavy handed?
@1MrBryn 10 ай бұрын
I drove this when they first came out and was honestly expecting the MG4 to be more my cup of tea based on reviews I'd seen. Turns out the MG felt quite cheap compared to the Ora and just didn't have the personality. So I still have this at the top of my list, with the Dolphin still to come
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Great to have these three EVs at this segment of the market to suit varying needs 👍👍
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
Same kind of experience here but the whole family ending up pulling the trigger on the ORA as a 2nd EV made more sense than the MG4. It was close, I'm sure either would have been ok. 3 drivers and 2 EV cars.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I said in my review that the Ora has personality, which is sadly lacking in a lot of cars. I was choosing between the MG4 and Ora, and chose the Ora because paying $1200 for servicing every 4 years would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
@t8polestarcyan22 8 ай бұрын
MG 4 Excite 51 or SE Short range is no slouch. It has the same rear multi-link suspension as a top of a range such as Essence Long Range 77 or Trophy Long Range. To me, a BYD Dolphin is trying to be a SUV but it's a high riding hatchback! So my choice now narrows down to MG 4s.
@I_dont_want_an_at 10 ай бұрын
it's quite lovely. For a car
@johnhedge1429 10 ай бұрын
Any news of the Zeekr X or the #1 coming to Australia?
@twilinski1 Ай бұрын
Overall a good review, however, two big items are missing: No information about Over The Air Updates. No information about the Ora App.
@LudicrousFeed Ай бұрын
Cheers I don’t often get access to the apps when I review press or dealer cars sadly
@coastalwombat2261 10 ай бұрын
Take delivery of our standard range ORA this Wednesday. I see it as an entry level EV that is easy to drive and adapt to with a number of limitations because of the price point. Would have paid for the extended range if it had been a LFP battery but no. Yes, it is a city run about and the boot is small. Agree with the point about the front space feeling less closed in without a chunky middle console (see the Dolphin for example). Probably not the last EV we will buy, but fits our purpose for now.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Good summary and congrats!
@Carnormous 10 ай бұрын
Hi Tom I have to commend your great videos and true insight into all the features of the car. Far better than professionals. Keep up the good work!!
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
@@Carnormous Thank you, you're very kind
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@petercleasby2383 What colour did you choose?
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy, approaching 1000km is a pleasure to jump into. If you use Apple Car Play. Seems to work very well and wirelessly which is nice. Has very nice screen to make CarPlay look good. I bet Tom didn’t mind the CarPlay back again. Tesla and Apple will probably never be proper friends unfortunately. If they were it would make a difference.
@enzodarro179 10 ай бұрын
I just picked up my first EV a (Model Y) I'm soooo happy. I just wish it still came with a 240Vac charger. I'm IN the EV club now!
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Woohoo congrats!
@jasoncarmichael4540 10 ай бұрын
I have to say your reviews are the best , you show everything, even the smallest detail, 😊
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Details matter 😉
@jasoncarmichael4540 10 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed iv got a question for you , does the battery in the ora require a full charge each week , or is it one that should only be charged to 80 percent?
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
It’s LFP so yes I’d recommend regularly topping to 100% for calibration
@jasoncarmichael4540 10 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed thanks mate
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
I follow same charging practices as model Y rwd. Don’t see anything to contradict that in a manual for the Ora. For the standard range.
@garryellis3085 10 ай бұрын
Good review tom thanks
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Very welcome
@garytucker969 10 ай бұрын
I saw an Ora in Sydney area last week. Didn't get my phone out quick enough
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Next time 😁
@jeroenjansen2709 4 ай бұрын
I test drove ine last saturday. High quality interior, earily silent, massive low down torque, more spacious than I expected, good roadholding.
@LudicrousFeed 4 ай бұрын
Nice. Will you buy?
@jeroenjansen2709 4 ай бұрын
@LudicrousFeed Yes and no. Yes, it is the car I really want. No, still too expensive and I will only lease it. Depreciation due to rapid technological development. Battery will have to be replaced after 5y?
@LudicrousFeed 4 ай бұрын
@@jeroenjansen2709 My Model S is still going strong on its original battery after 9 years 💪 Scan My Tesla Model S 70D Battery Degradation after 7.5 years 109000km kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as-nirxyqKusYok.html
@patrickryan6065 10 ай бұрын
GWM do build a great value car. The interior looks very impressive. Great review as always mate.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
@jimmyk6952 10 ай бұрын
I think similar price better to pick up MG4 more stylish and fun driving for sure
@t8polestarcyan22 8 ай бұрын
Independent rear suspension cannot be substituted which the MG 4 have.
@samirvasishth 10 ай бұрын
You can get the charging speed by multiplying amps by 394 (voltage) or 24.8 kw when you were dc charging at 63 amps. Max i have got is 54.7 kw.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t think a lot of people will want to do the maths - Hopefully they’ll have better telemetry at the next software update
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
I just look at the Tesla app or the DC charger screen. But could use more information for sure. Has time remaining on my drivers screen that’s what I think my wife and daughter care about. How long is all that matters to them.
@lozzyloulou1 10 ай бұрын
Nice integrated dash
@gregb1599 10 ай бұрын
2 weeks later anyone that have already brought this recently may be a little pissed in NZ as its just dropped $5k across the range!
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
🤦
@t8polestarcyan22 8 ай бұрын
GWM Ora was relatively a rip off back then compared to MG ZS EV Excite. After MG 4 have been introduced GWM lowered the price tag of this Good Cat in order to be competitive with BYD Dolphin and MG 4.
@I_dont_want_an_at 10 ай бұрын
this guy is proof that an electric car won't make you happy. But....neither will any other purchase. You should still buy an electric car though if you can. They have use despite not providing happiness
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
It’s an EV hence I’m happy 😉 But gotta be honest with my reviews 🙏
@Driving-on-sunshine 10 ай бұрын
Great review as always, this was Jules backup plan if the Dolphin was too expensive. We were looking at the Red with two tone red interior, as Children of the Revolution born in the 60’s we loved the retro look of this car, but Jules as an artist was drawn to the Pink interior with mermaid scales on the dashboard of the Dolphin 🤣
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
I love the retro feel of the Ora 😍
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
Was going to wait for Dolphin but got ORA, it’s a very nice. In the low end spec much more powerful than the dolphin. Reviews overseas had the dolphin at about 12s 0-100 and that was not worth waiting for.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
Can't get the red two-tone in Australia, unfortunatley.... it's black on everything except the Aurora Green.
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
@@stormjuicegot the green here, seemed to be the pick but that’s a personal thing some hate that colour I’m sure.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@@lspeegs Green isn't anywhere near the top of my list either, and definitely not cream interior... I must be crazy for choosing the same combination :)
@sydjaguar 10 ай бұрын
Excellent Camera work, Tom. I felt like I was in the car.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed Tom could you please tell me how you managed to record the infotainment screen without flicker? Framerate? I tried many framerates with a DJI Action 3 and couldn't get anything usable.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
@@stormjuice I used a mounted GoPro 9 on 4K/30 for the wide shot
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed I'll try that. Same for the close-up of the screen I assume?
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
@@stormjuice Close up: Sony ZV-1
@jeffreyborg 10 ай бұрын
Interesting about the cruise and no regen. Seems to be plucked from the ice platform parts bin
@ematejowsky 2 ай бұрын
Not showing regen on the screen doesn't prove it isn't happening. Disappointing if true. Cruise killing one pedal is also disappointing.
@jasoncarmichael4540 10 ай бұрын
I really love the look of the car
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, it’s special
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
It’s quite striking in person.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
It has... personality
@jkye1980 4 ай бұрын
I love this interiors, current on sale model doesn’t have this
@LudicrousFeed 4 ай бұрын
👍
@EmmaRides 10 ай бұрын
So mini inspired
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Not a bad thing 🙏
@glennpulford4860 10 ай бұрын
Great Wall Is manufacturing the new EV Mini.. I’d take the Ora over the Mini though.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
The designer is from Porsche, so was also 356 and 911 inspired. As well as Mini, because GWM have a joint venture to produce the next Mini (same platform as the Ora).
@w0bblyd0inkb0ink 3 ай бұрын
Is the battery liquid cooled temperature controlled?
@LudicrousFeed 3 ай бұрын
Yes liquid cooled LFP
@I_dont_want_an_at 10 ай бұрын
I love the increasing variety in new teslas like this one
@TassieEV 10 ай бұрын
Did you specify the boot space capacity in litres? It doesn't look very large though. Being ground up EV GWM really could've done a better job on frunk which others offer(both overseas and even locally). Wonder if it's the Funky Cat or Good Cat since for some reason locally they didn't keep that name. Did they mention in the specs if it has connectivity and OTA so has App support? No Piano Black something Hyundai/Kia could take note of and many other car makers. Good centre console something Polestar should take note of. The MG charges faster though over 100kW and is priced competitively to this but this is definitely slow on DC as both Dolphin & MG4 charge faster, but they need to show charge speed in the car that is a poor exclusion on GWM.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions - I did what I could in the 24h so hopefully I can do a few more tests in my longer loan. I find specifying boot capacity in L is only useful when done in comparison with similar vehicles. With rear seats up: GWM Ora 228L BYD Dolphin 345L MG4 363L
@gregb1599 10 ай бұрын
To bad they still do not have the ultra or GT models as the extras on those are impressive. Like the heated/ventilated and even massage seats! Memory seats including side rear view mirrors though the camera so facial recognition which sounds cool, as well as kick activated electric boot.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
I believe the Ultra variant is available in Aus
@gregb1599 10 ай бұрын
@LudicrousFeed Our Trademe dealer listing's always says coming soon for the Ultra and GT models. They must be soon as our dealer said about a month, and that was about a month ago. I do find it odd that all our models get the same motor, yet in China only the GT gets the 126kw motor and that claims a 0-100kph in 6.9 seconds, while our models only get a claimed 8.5 second with the same 126kw motor.
@ad_fletch 10 ай бұрын
Haha that tiny parcel shelf. Would prefer to have a rear wiper on upright screen like that but oh well. The stepped boot profile reminds me of my early 2000s Renault Megane - not the best in terms of volume. Shame no frunk/froot to supplement it.
@ad_fletch 10 ай бұрын
PS great review - all the detail is appreciated. Interior looks as good as Hyundai/Kia and more comfortable than Polestar 2.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Good quality interior 👍
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
That boot is perfect for the coles/woolies half-a-trolly. Otherwise you might use the back seat space. Not a full trolly shopper most of the time, guess I'm not going to costco in an ORA. Or the airport with 4 people and luggage.
@davidtrajano9802 10 ай бұрын
Com 100 % da carga completa qual é a autonomia do carro ?
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Approx 350-400 real world range
@CoachThomas 10 ай бұрын
Why cover the DC flap? Teslas don’t cover it, always wondered why?
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Protect from the elements I guess
@mrgrunty 10 ай бұрын
Seems like the BYD Seagull would be a closer model and should probably be priced in the low 30k region accordingly.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the Seagull is of similar size to the Kia Picanto hence significantly smaller than the Ora
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
Seagull is MUCH smaller. The Ora in pics and video is deceptive... it's MUCH bigger in real life.
@waynehobbs5175 10 ай бұрын
Great review Tom and sufficent for me to eliminate it as a contender for the following reasons: left indicator stalk on RHD cars is just cost cutting and unnecessary. No rear wiper on a hatchback, no deal. Tiny boot and the centre infotainment screen is too small. IMO MG4 creams it. Looking forward to your Dolphin base model review. We have an Atto3 and love that it regens even when using active cruise control. At its pricepoint my money would be spent on MG4 instead.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Agreed that the MG4 is a good buy at this price point. Dolphin will be interesting
@t8polestarcyan22 8 ай бұрын
Is it really a ground up platform? I've heard from a salesman that it's based on Haval Jolion.
@LudicrousFeed 8 ай бұрын
Short answer is yes, but … doing some more reading, the LEMON platform was designed to be used by the Great Wall brand across ICE, PHEV and EV vehicles
@t8polestarcyan22 8 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed But anyway it's a good car nerveless. It should easily fit into a small garage which even a Euro B Segment hatchback cannot fit. If you only fit a car like Honda Jazz/Fit, this Ora can.
@pmacgowan 10 ай бұрын
Nice little town car
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@I_dont_want_an_at 10 ай бұрын
this is the tesla for me
@yggdrasil9039 10 ай бұрын
I think it's 126kW, which is one kW of power more than an MG4 😀 All very comparable, except the base spec Dolphin only 70kW and 0-100 in 12 seconds
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Yes the base Dolphin specs don’t quite match the Ora or MG4 Excite 🤔
@yggdrasil9039 10 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed I'm sort of hoping BYD will lower the base 70kW Dolphin to $35k on that basis, especially if it doesn't sell as well as the base MG4 and Ora for that reason. Although I think the Dolphin has slightly better tech. Will see. Fingers crossed!
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully I ruled the dolphin out as I couldn’t test drive it and overseas reviews were pretty clear about the lack of power in the base model. If only the ORA was RWD and had more traditional indicators, it would be much better.
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
@@yggdrasil9039 The base Dolphin is for fleets, whose drivers don't care (or know) about EFV torque. Nice username btw, oh World Tree.
@yggdrasil9039 10 ай бұрын
@@stormjuice Ahh, that explains why BYD are giving one away for free this weekend! Cheers
@millsy3224 10 ай бұрын
Tom they're known as toggle switches.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Nice! I learned something today 😃
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed I'd remap the fan on/off button with fan up/down and holding down for fan off. Plus add one more button for volume up/down and hold down for mute. Can't deny a physical button is nice and they just slightly missed on those two functions.
@p.goonan7569 10 ай бұрын
V to L/G?
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Not as yet
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
No plans for that in the manual, MG4 however I think would be a better choice for that.
@andrewgraham7659 10 ай бұрын
So in reality range it's about 260km at an estimate.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Probably. I’ll do a proper long drive when I get the loaner loan later in 2023
@I_dont_want_an_at 10 ай бұрын
i don't need a car to monitor me. I'm in charge
@saevans63 10 ай бұрын
I live in the country so this EV is probably impractical for me. The boot size is disappointing. I think it is more suited to be a second city runaround vehicle for doing the shopping etc. Otherwise nice vehicle with good attention to detail
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Great little town runabout
@weirenwu7680 10 ай бұрын
it has not android auto now. Maybe can update late.
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Let’s hope
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
Android Auto is due Feb 2024
@lspeegs 10 ай бұрын
@@stormjuiceI hope they add "save setting as bootup default" to everything in the driving settings. Mostly the one pedal driving turning off is annoying. That's actually more annoying than the indicators and so easy to correct via software :) If anyone talks to a head guru at GWM ORA, tell them. Might as well delete eco+ if you somehow end up on that mode the car is not broken, just doesn't go over 85km/hr in that mode. I get it, save electrons, but I personally think it should be at least 100km/hr or just don't have eco+. One pedal disables eco+ so will solve both if that can be a bootup default. I'm not using Android, but definitely should have it. If it works as well as Carplay some very happy android users ahead.
@motorozer 10 ай бұрын
Looks like a 2015 Tartan Prancer
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow that is one whacky car 😁
@pkerry12 10 ай бұрын
Yeah once U go tesla cheaper EVs just don't cut it to me.
@I_dont_want_an_at 10 ай бұрын
WARNING: THE SUNGLASS HOLDER MAY NOT FIT YOUR SUNGLASSES. THIS IS A KNOWN FAULT IN SOME GWM VEHICLES. BE WARNED!
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
Good to know
@stormjuice 10 ай бұрын
I released a review of the Ora today as well: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oqecdduJnrvLiKc.html I also had issues with the indicator.... definitely needs improving (though many others say it's fine.... maybe I'm heavy handed). I've linked to your review in the details of my review. You explain the indicator sensitivity much better than I do :)
@LudicrousFeed 10 ай бұрын
🙏💯
@malihabadi0 9 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for the vlogger to say "Tesla is better"
@LudicrousFeed 9 ай бұрын
The vlogger will diplomatically say that Tesla does not currently have a product in this segment of the market 😁
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