2023 Honda Goldwing 1800 - Why the two wheeled armchair is just so good!

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Man Cave Moto

Man Cave Moto

Күн бұрын

I recently took the new Honda Goldwing B for a spin, up to Silverstone to learn all about the processes behind and safety features of, the In&Motion wearable airbag system, or wairbags for short. I was invited by RST to the event, so I thought it was a perfect opportunity to revisit the Honda Goldwing following my first review a couple of years ago. It's obviously a fantastic machine for covering big distances, but how does the Goldwing stack up as an all-around everyday bike? I try to answer that question, with a little bit of wairbag tech thrown in!
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00:00 - Intro
00:46 - Full Option Goldwing
02:10 - Ergonomics & Controls
05:20 - That engine and comfort!
07:25 - Do you or would you wear an airbag jacket?
08:55 - The In&Motion Tech day at Silverstone
13:01 - Leaving Silverstone via smaller roads
13:44 - DCT riding modes explained
15:12 - Onboard OEM Navigation system
17:06 - Learning how to control DCT when riding
19:03 - But it's just for touring right?!
21:20 - Fuel economy
21:49 - Crawl mode, luggage space and final thoughts

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@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis
@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis 4 ай бұрын
I love this bike,it's like a car with 2 wheels ! as the saying goes, "four wheels moves the body,two wheels move the soul"
@markkitaoka8783
@markkitaoka8783 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your content. I have worn a Helite vest for the past 19 months. As a former road racer and race track instructor I know firsthand the value of great gear. I've low-sided twice on track and high-sided once. My custom-built team leathers prevented any bone breaking or road rash. 31 measurements were taken for our leathers. In 2001 airbags were not available so I wore a Held back protector, as back protectors were required. My high side at 140 MPH rendered me unconscious and I was airlifted to the trauma center. Bad concussion and my two front teeth were knocked out. I view racetracks as much safer than the street. Tracks here in the US are required to have two ambulances on standby, EMTs, corner workers, specific run-off areas, etc. On the streets, there are cars, poles, texting, drinking, drugs, a literal cornucopia of things that can injure you. My main concern returning to the street is sustaining an injury that would be life-altering. Paralysis. Wayne Rainy or Chris Reeves comes to my mind. I write for Web Bike World and have reviewed the Helite eTurtle, the Turtle 2, their HMOOV backpack, and Mo'Cycle airbag jeans. I am currently evaluating the Alpinestars TechAir 3 and 5. InMotion is sending me a Held and Ai1 Rally to review. In the Fall I plan to do a comparison of all the airbags I have reviewed. Not which one is BEST since I will simply present the features of each. Everyone decides for themselves what is 'best' for them. I review things to help others decide what they'd like to do. I make no income off of Likes, Subscribes, etc, just a very small stipend from wBW for my writing. I often ask the question that if you are/would be a law enforcement officer and bulletproof vests were not required, would you wear one? Why or why not? And if child seats were not required, would you drive with your child in your car without one? Like all things, we as humans feel things won't happen to us, just others. Or arrogantly we feel that our skills prevent injury. Or we 'are just riding to the store.' Just like anything else, if you experience a crash first hand, then your attitude most likely changes.
@alp3781
@alp3781 11 ай бұрын
Since I got my Tour ,DCT, I don’t know what else I can ride out there, for real. This machine is just incredible all around. It got me so addicted. I never owned a wing in 30 years of riding. Honda really knows how to create the ultimate bike on the planet. Since new, I never had even one tiny problem. Enjoy this beauty.
@randyshoop3214
@randyshoop3214 10 ай бұрын
How did you find the adjustment to DTC transitioning from a clutch ? that together with the weight of the bike is a bit unsettling.
@randyshoop3214
@randyshoop3214 10 ай бұрын
Non tour models are very hard to come by, love the look without the rear pack !
@alp3781
@alp3781 10 ай бұрын
@@randyshoop3214 It took me around 2 weeks to adjust and to remember not to rev in Drive. The DCT is a smart transmission. Once you start riding, you forget the weight of it. The COG is very low. Also, the DCT learns your riding habits.
@alp3781
@alp3781 10 ай бұрын
@@randyshoop3214 You will probably need to search on a larger radius areas. 24 models are coming in soon too.
@wayneritchie3801
@wayneritchie3801 3 күн бұрын
Thank you I have had 3 Goldie’s great bike no issues with any one of them.Cheers and thanks for the Vid. 👍
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne Жыл бұрын
The Goldwing has always been an awesome bike. Im probably about grown up (old enough) for one now.
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad Жыл бұрын
Me too
@afrancois1968
@afrancois1968 11 ай бұрын
I got mine (2023 bagger) a month ago. I am 55 now and I don’t consider myself old yet 😂.
@elifelif777
@elifelif777 10 ай бұрын
@@afrancois1968 Im 50 now after many many bikes ridden most sporty why am I looking at Bagger now ☺️
@geepers100
@geepers100 6 ай бұрын
Most useful review of this bike on KZfaq. Thankyou very much.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you
@jimbandit1250sa
@jimbandit1250sa 25 күн бұрын
Awesome review thanks buddy I want one😃😍
@Johnrider1234
@Johnrider1234 11 ай бұрын
I am getting the 2023 bagger dct this week.
@hansdegebruiker1968
@hansdegebruiker1968 9 ай бұрын
Nice video. Thanks. I had a gl 1200 interstate many years ago. Last couple of years I drove a KTM 1290R superduke. Now I want to buy a new goldwing again. This video is very helpful to get a impression how goldwings improved. I like the new design a lot. Next year I will buy one. For sure I will make a trip to the UK. I did that once on a Silverwing in the nineties.
@andrewewan624
@andrewewan624 Жыл бұрын
Good and interesting video as usual. Over the years ...had both vests and a jacket from Helite ... tethered versions Quality items... and now many more companies offering .....
@richedwards4651
@richedwards4651 Жыл бұрын
Tony ,I use to have a tethered air bag vest from Helite, almost certainly saved me from serious injury when I got T boned a few years back. I'm currently running a Dainese air vest, I chose this over other options as it's very flexible not having some sort of hard shell to house the electronics. However, the build quality has not stood up well to prolonged regular use.
@mclarnonc2002
@mclarnonc2002 Жыл бұрын
I find that Rain mode is better for slow town work, or for walking pace riding in a car park. I don't have an airbag jacket but will follow this story with a keen interest. Thank you Tony.
@SCFoster
@SCFoster 9 ай бұрын
The airbag vest/suit has proven itself on the track and the road. I would never think of riding without it.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 5 ай бұрын
It’s a bucket list bike because I know I could take it anywhere with my wife and both of us be comfortable.
@anthonyenglish5276
@anthonyenglish5276 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the follow up on airbag safety wear and in particular would welcome some pros and cons between tethered systems to none tethered
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
👍
@taz391
@taz391 10 ай бұрын
Nice to see a review done on roads we all use 👍🏽
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@bobjuniel8683
@bobjuniel8683 11 ай бұрын
I have watched many Goldwing 1800 reviews, this is by far the best and most informative review. Do you know of a 150cc sized bike that offers auto transmission, big bike wheels and advanced design like ABS dual disc braking and adjustable suspension, for and 80 Year old biker. I currently ride a Honda ADV-150 or if my Thai lady has grabbed it I ride her Honda PCX-160. I had adjustable shock absorbers fitted to the PCX-160 and it is a softer ride. Because the Honda ADV-150 has a left hand leaver operated rear brake, no abs, and right handed front brake with ABS, Australia will not register any new bike without dual ABS brakes. These scooters are motorbikes with splash guard fairing. We cruise at 60 kph in Thailand, but they will cruise at 100 kph (60 mph) and have move capacity to over 115
@twowheelsoneleg5672
@twowheelsoneleg5672 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks I enjoyed that, entertaining and informative. At 57 I've started wearing a Helite Evest(cordless) hope I never have to test it but its second nature to wear it now
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Cheers
@marcusturner5291
@marcusturner5291 Жыл бұрын
Nice video keep up the good work fella
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcus
@ralphsmotodiary
@ralphsmotodiary Жыл бұрын
The Goldwing is a gorgeous bike, not one that I would consider at the moment but an incredible thing all the same. Re airbag clothing, yep - definitely think it might be a game changer, the more protection the better, no? I don't think it will be very long before a system that envelops the entire rider in the event of a crash is developed. It needs to become a helluva lot cheaper, though, to become appealing to the masses.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Yep, price is one of the things that In&Motion put as a target.
@joycecottingham9432
@joycecottingham9432 10 ай бұрын
Hi,good test.I’ve had three new wings-all manuals and have done 30k on them.l chose the 6speed simply because I want to stay upright during mamoevers
@ianmorgan7198
@ianmorgan7198 Жыл бұрын
I must admit that that the six on the Wing sounds fabulous (I'm a K16 owner) if only Honda would paint the standard Wing in some decent colours then it would certainly be on my radar.
@MelodyMan69
@MelodyMan69 10 ай бұрын
Agree with the Paint Colours comment. Classier Paint is what it DESERVES.
@martythemartian99
@martythemartian99 6 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, I want a bright yellow one. 🤩
@kevinrobb86
@kevinrobb86 Жыл бұрын
I was watching another channel a few days back from the US and the guy custom seat on his Goldwing had heated and cooling option, no idea how it worked but that was a first for me
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Жыл бұрын
As I get older, the need to ride a GW is getting harder to resist.
@jgoogleheim8880
@jgoogleheim8880 Жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video. I just got the same bagger GW you ride here and you covered a lot of points I had questions on such as manual shifting while in auto mode. I do have 3 brief questions. I noticed on our rather rough New England roads the front suspension seemed a bit soft and bottomed out on occasion. Does the sport mode firm up the front end? Next, I was wondering if you have the stock windshield on your bike? While it works good in highest position for me (6"4") I will need something a bit taller and wider. Lastly, is that the Honda rear carrier or an aftermarket unit? I ride solo and would like to tie a dry bag on when I head out for sweet corn etc. Your video quality is excellent.
@MOTOUK1
@MOTOUK1 Жыл бұрын
Love my In&Motion Klim vest Tony, never ride without it now. Some are put off from. £12 a month subscription. But I find it ok and they are continuously updating latest algorithm. What I like about this vest is it covers the neck where some don’t.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Interesting, it’s definitely something I’m looking at. RST have a airbag vest/undershirt coming out this year
@bryanholden9853
@bryanholden9853 2 ай бұрын
Get video looking forward to purchasing my Goldwing 👍
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 2 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@Smart_Rides
@Smart_Rides 6 ай бұрын
Great content, I bought an RST Sabre jacket with In& Motion airbag built in. It really isn't that bulky while wearing, its similar to a level 2 back protector but slightly thicker and heavier. It isn't a tether system you have to buy a subscription and you get a 'brain' to plug into the back which collects data constantly from other riders, crashes etc so it is constantly evolving. Luckily, I have not had tot test this and wish I never have to
@garethgay9133
@garethgay9133 8 ай бұрын
very good
@wittko
@wittko 8 ай бұрын
I use an airbag jacket. It's kind of like wearing a seat belt. No one wore a seat belt when I was a kid, and they were a bit hard to get used to, but now I wouldn't think of driving a car without putting on the seat belt. Same with the air bag on the bike. Took a bit of getting used to and now I wouldn't think of riding without it.
@troy9er
@troy9er 9 ай бұрын
Nice wing, subbing! Liked too.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Жыл бұрын
A beautifully equipped bit of kit, but it's lacking the bash plate for when you go off road. Other than that..it's Judge Dredds bike. The Lawmaster, if I remember. Nice one. Safe, happy travels 👍
@andrewkitchenuk
@andrewkitchenuk 10 ай бұрын
Why would you want to go off-road? That's what the Africa Twin is for.
@angels731
@angels731 11 ай бұрын
I use a Helite airbag and have a second tether so I can easily switch bikes. Many miles covered, day and night all seasons with no problems. Well, except when getting off the bike and forgetting to disconnect the tether.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
oops
@stepheneurosailor1623
@stepheneurosailor1623 11 ай бұрын
Good show👍🍺
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 11 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@SouthwestBlue1
@SouthwestBlue1 Жыл бұрын
I've been using the Ixon waistcoat airbag that uses the In&Motion detection for a few years now. I like that it isn't jacket specific and I can wear it under any of my kit. Dainese claim their system provides 10x more protection than level 2 armour!
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think I’d go down the vest route over one baked into a jacket
@pitsirinism
@pitsirinism 4 ай бұрын
first time in my life that I'm sad for been economically unable to afford something.. It would be like a dream if somehow I end up with a goldwing!! Excellent end detailed video though!
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 4 ай бұрын
Yes out of my price bracket too, thanks for watching
@s.crambling3795
@s.crambling3795 Жыл бұрын
I intend to buy one at some point, and would wear them for longer highway rides. Quite expensive at the moment, and my off-road speeds are quite slow. Prefer tethered options to electronic activation models personally, and also jackets that don't require annual servicing...which would be difficult in my location. Enjoy your bike!!
@drmengawyong
@drmengawyong Жыл бұрын
Even 5 mph enough to break a bone or even worse ligament
@MrSweeperUSA
@MrSweeperUSA 25 күн бұрын
I would have got this Gold Wing already but I can't decide between the bike you have or the Touring version with Trunk.
@joycecottingham9432
@joycecottingham9432 10 ай бұрын
Upright during manuevers
@gudlad61
@gudlad61 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful machine. Unfortunately out of my budget so I’ll stick with my wonderful ST1300 Pan European..... Until I win the lottery of course 🙂
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 11 ай бұрын
Same here (budget wise not ST1300 😂)
@f.josec.g5860
@f.josec.g5860 Жыл бұрын
It os a boat jajajaj is amazing
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad Жыл бұрын
Same controls as my Rebel 1100T. Love the DCT. Think I might have to get the Wing next. Think I want the Tour model though.
@alp3781
@alp3781 11 ай бұрын
You will not regret it!!!
@stevensoldano2763
@stevensoldano2763 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the way the 1100 t looks. Would’ve bought but the dct turns me away. How’s the wind at highway speeds ? The windshield isn’t too big
@alp3781
@alp3781 9 ай бұрын
@@stevensoldano2763 You more likely to replace it. I did and it’s super now.
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad 9 ай бұрын
I think the windscreen and fair I are too small.
@alp3781
@alp3781 9 ай бұрын
@@turtle19dad I ordered the F4 windscreen and love it. Another one to concider will be 7Jurock screen.
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
@user-sw2lv3zp6o Жыл бұрын
I bet that Goldwing is superb to ride.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
It’s lush
@andrewkitchenuk
@andrewkitchenuk 10 ай бұрын
Hilarious when i watch GW reviews on utube and they say how comfortable it is. Try it at 6'4" tall with long legs and the pointy part of the fairing digs painfully into your knees.
@drmengawyong
@drmengawyong Жыл бұрын
Gold wing got it right putting airbags in tank i saw lots of fractured pelvis which would have been prevented if manufacturers out airbags there also wouldn’t notice weight as much as having extra airbag( all were sports bikes due to tank v pelvis in sudden stop no Harleys) yes after 30 years in trauma airbags will reduce fracture much much much better than armour need to start airbag for arms legs pelvis .had an ixon for 2 years but changed to alpinestars techair 3 which is so much easier to wear without the hard back protector .
@davidgee1792
@davidgee1792 8 ай бұрын
Great review... However as I understand the suspension on the bagger is all manual and no electronic damping as you refer to when changing modes. I have the 2022 version and this is what the dealer advised as its not the tour....
@Johnclark300
@Johnclark300 11 ай бұрын
The Honda gold wing is the best quality that money can buy, I want to build my credit for one, I just turned 39 years old. Sure its almost 50K in the us but its worth the 50 thousand dollars, I will have a bike that will outlast me.
@allenmurray6393
@allenmurray6393 11 ай бұрын
$50K? I don't think that price is right. The 2003 B model is about $25.3K in NJ ( If you can find one)....
@cianhogan1541
@cianhogan1541 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Could you comment on the ergonomics of the bike? Do you feel you begin to feel muscle soreness back pain etc after a day's motorway riding? Do you think it is a good deal more comfortable than a k1600 gt? Thanks so much.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
The ergonomics are great, I usually ride an adventure bike so did have to get used to having my hands lower, but no back pain or shoulder aches. I've not spent any time on the K1600 so can't offer a comparison.
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial 7 ай бұрын
Most reliable bikes I've owned. My friend has 320,000 miles on his.
@paulcoverdale8312
@paulcoverdale8312 10 ай бұрын
Sort Tony. If I had that sort of money I’d buy a Boss Hoss mate. At least it’s got reverse.❤❤❤
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
Goldwings also have reverse…..
@tonywerner6060
@tonywerner6060 Жыл бұрын
I just bought an airbag vest and plan to wear it a fair bit.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Be interesting to hear how you get on, i'm hopefully getting one soon to try out
@JJ-fk5ys
@JJ-fk5ys 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know about airbag vest that's cool 😎
@arijoh3
@arijoh3 Жыл бұрын
What type of helmet do you use?
@gerrywood5325
@gerrywood5325 10 ай бұрын
In city riding situations, do you think using the transmission in manual mode is better than the standard DCT mode that allows the transmission to up and down shift on its own?
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
I find that DCT mode is fine around town, rarely did I use the bike in manual mode, but its there if you feel you need it
@jasonlaughton7590
@jasonlaughton7590 3 ай бұрын
hi there i have just got the 2023 model ogf the goldwing gl1800 same colour as your the grey, have you had any problem witht eh fuel engine cuting out when ya riding it as for some reason they have been recalled but noting on the uk models yet
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 3 ай бұрын
This was a press bike that I only had for a couple of weeks, but I didnt experience that problem.
@DancerOfClouds
@DancerOfClouds 24 күн бұрын
Love my 2023 DTC Tourer. Not sure about wearable airbags? Here in TEXAS it gets pretty hot. Will be interesting to see the end state, and who knows with the over-reaching governments we have all over the world, they might become compulsory.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 21 күн бұрын
There are lightweight vest style airbags that don’t look like they will go too onerous in hot climates.
@gra271
@gra271 10 ай бұрын
Would love one but keep thinking that the dash will be upgraded to full lcd, ie no glare in the sun and would be gutted if they brought this out after I bought it
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
Who knows, I wouldn't think they'd make such a big change with what is such a good dash, but you never know
@drmengawyong
@drmengawyong Жыл бұрын
Absolutely convinced airbag is the way forwards 30 yrs A&E 5 yrs track medic IOM tt wsb bsb motogp
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
It does seem that way
@kellyabercrombie9769
@kellyabercrombie9769 9 ай бұрын
I might have simply missed it as you were scrolling through the rider modes but I didn’t see “off-road” mode. Hmm. Weird. I’m sure I just missed it. 😂
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 9 ай бұрын
😂 it’s in a hidden menu along with the amphibious mode
@moto-adventure
@moto-adventure 4 ай бұрын
Hi, please tell me what kind of windshield is that one? Can you provide a link?
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 4 ай бұрын
Its the Honda accessory 'tall screen' motorcycleconfigurator.honda.co.uk/bikes/touring/goldwing/#/accessories
@gregoriopassport
@gregoriopassport 11 ай бұрын
I have the same 2023 GW bagger as well....yes "Dat ass doe...."
@balamagasimonbalaam8611
@balamagasimonbalaam8611 Жыл бұрын
I really want to Buy one Bike 2023 used model... How much is it please?
@klausknudsen106
@klausknudsen106 7 ай бұрын
Why its so good? well at that price point, it better be. I'd like one, but here in Denmark its like, i can buy a house for that ;)
@SBKPete
@SBKPete Жыл бұрын
The standard GW doesn’t have the electronic suspension, that the tourer has; and so changing the ride modes, has no effect on the suspension.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
All Goldwings now come with electronic damping adjustment.
@kwakaj14
@kwakaj14 Жыл бұрын
But doesn't have a digital read out for speed in the middle of screen ????
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
It has a big traditional speedo on the left.
@davidhalliwell6844
@davidhalliwell6844 11 ай бұрын
If you are looking ‘through’ the screen while it’s in its lowest position, isn’t that going to be an issue when it rains, in terms of visibility?…..no wipers.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
This is the taller 'touring' screen, but you can still see through it in the rain, wind tends to clear it well when moving
@jasonlaughton7590
@jasonlaughton7590 5 ай бұрын
how nice is the bike to ride ive been looking at this model for while and ive got the honda dn-01
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 5 ай бұрын
Its a joy to ride, like a mobile armchair
@jasonlaughton7590
@jasonlaughton7590 5 ай бұрын
@@mancavemoto have you seen or heard of the Honda dn-01
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I quite like them, my local dealer has one from his collection on display in the showroom.
@jasonlaughton7590
@jasonlaughton7590 5 ай бұрын
@@mancavemoto which is better then
@jasonlaughton7590
@jasonlaughton7590 5 ай бұрын
@@mancavemoto is it smooth on the road I love ya video well into depth with the bike as some just over look things on it and will I regret getting it n replaced my dn-01 with one
@notyah2411
@notyah2411 Жыл бұрын
How tall are you. I’m 5ft 8in. Will I be flat footed on a Goldwing. I had a Pan European before.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
I’m 5ft 10in with a 32 inch inside leg. I think you be would be flat footed on the bike No problem
@notyah2411
@notyah2411 Жыл бұрын
@@mancavemoto 29in inside leg.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto Жыл бұрын
Yep I think you’ll be fine, it’s pretty low, but wide.
@nr3157
@nr3157 9 ай бұрын
There's a Goldwing video where the rider says he's 5' 7 and he is flat footed on his 2023 Goldwing.
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be surprised if they made airbag gear mandatory.
@scottygdaman
@scottygdaman 9 ай бұрын
how about hydrogen air bag suits ,,.huhhuh? combined front rear braking,,abs,,following lights.,,,, still no radar cruise control ?
@guicane
@guicane 2 ай бұрын
am I crazy or this bike with carplay on doesnt have a digital speedometer? who wants a dial at this age and age?
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 2 ай бұрын
I think the dial looks classy, I like it
@guicane
@guicane 2 ай бұрын
@@mancavemoto fair but why not a digital one as well, kind of like the R1250RT
@dylanegan9398
@dylanegan9398 11 ай бұрын
That's an aftermarket windscreen
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
Yep, as I mentioned in the video its the OEM Honda accessory touring screen
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 10 ай бұрын
And how many people can afford a $60k arm chair ????
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 10 ай бұрын
That’s an irrelevant question, those who can will those who can’t won’t
@maximusaugustus6823
@maximusaugustus6823 4 ай бұрын
I don't get these large huge bikes, so why not just ride a car and open the sunroof.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 4 ай бұрын
The I guess you don’t get bikes at all? 🤷‍♂️
@laryangel4082
@laryangel4082 10 ай бұрын
L
@jonty172
@jonty172 9 ай бұрын
There is no way I would buy one without a clutch. I may aswell buy a scooter. Very sad we are accepting this.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 8 ай бұрын
Luckily there is a choice as they sell more DCT Wings than Manual ones......
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