Frame is modular, engine is structural. This allows the motor to sit lower, and is part of why it feels balanced for its weight

Many complain that Indian doesn't have the accessory offerings Harley has, but it would take half the Harley accessory book to bring a Road Glide to a stock Challenger, but both are still behind the Wing and K1600.

I finally got to test ride one of these this morning (Dark Horse) and I was honestly kind of blown away. It feels so different from the Road Glide. Kind of somewhere between a Low Rider ST and a Road Glide I guess. Smooth engine and great handling. I was settling in on the idea of doing a Road King Special performance bagger build, but the Challenger has me rethinking everything now. Great bike. 👏🏾

Great video man. I know you love your RG and LRS you use to have but also appreciate the Indian bikes. Fair comparison from someone who actually owns the bike the Challenger competes against. And nothing you said was wrong on both sides. Grown men getting sensitive about their favorite brand is hilarious to me. At the end of the day, these are our toys. Enjoy the one you like but recognize it’s not the only or greatest toy out there. It’s just the one you like the best.

Nice review once again kid! You hit it on the head! I own the 22 Pursuit version in the dark horse version. I will say this, the plastic thing is way better than the victory bikes I owned. So they are progressing in that department and I think what you have at Indian is a bunch of engineers that are all about performance and functionality not as much aesthetic experts. Think about this vs HD customer base, Indian has a blank canvas not 50 years of the same bikes so they can push the designs a little more than HD can which I like. They don’t have the brand following yet to worry about pissing off most of the diehards. Just wait until the new HD glides hit the market! Half of the cult will lose their minds over the changes! I love the new CVO glides but would never pay the asking price compared to my Pursuit. Keep it up!

Harley made Indian up their game. Now Indian is forcing Harley to up theirs. I don't view them as competitors I view them as "tough love" brothers, both in it for the same cause. Just so happens the Indian brother has been doing a lot of reading and gym days lol. Also any Indian with a tune keeps up with any CVO or most Stage II+ HDs, that's a HUGE cost saving. You'll need a cammed and bored full motor HD to ever catch a tuned Challenger. Cammed, tuned with bolt on's the air cooled Chief/Chieftain 116ci is a wild motor, same with this liquid cooled Challenger. It's basically a bagger V-Rod with better egos. The handling certainly speaks for itself.

There’s so much more in the electronic package including Tire Pressure Monitors, and the Lean Angle Traction Control system that comes standard on that bike.

Great video man. Love the bike, and the new toce 2 into 1 like what riding fish has on his pursuit is bad ass

I love the comment section. It shows a lot of weird people and their insecurities. You’re not supposed to like another brand Motorcycle. 😂 motorcycles are like women. just because you have one doesn’t mean you can’t be attracted to another. just wanted to say great video! keep coming with more of that great content.

That laugh you did at time stamp 9:48 is the laugh everyone does when they crack the Challengers throttle. I have had my bike since 2020 and it still makes me grin when I open it up.

Awesome Video man! I was at the dealer today and sat on a Challenger for the first time. The spark was lit. Thanks for filling in all the details!

You can get the Pursuit Premium suspension for any Challenger. That is about the only suspension upgrade to consider.

I am on my second Challenger they're great bikes! I also own HD lowrider st so I definitely open mind to brands .Can't go wrong either brand great review

Thanks for the review. I am down to the pursuit or goldwing. Hope to purchase in April 2025.

Nice vid on Indian! IMO this needs to be compared to the 23 Harley CVO Road Glide!

How does the Ride Command feature compare to your Harley?

i love watching your videos i have a challenger my self and i love it so its nice to see some good things to say about it and from a harley guys thats cool keep up the good work man love watching you

Hey! I'm looking at this bike. I'd like to know how maneuverable it is in parking lots etc. Slow speed stuff!

I have a road glide as well been Harleys for 20 years and I drool over that bike. All I'd do is a pipe and t bars . Would be set

Imagine you going on the challenger to the Harley 120th anniversary lol that would be a great comparison video with your road glide buddies 😅😎

I don't know how, as I'm looking into Indian bikes and become curious about the Challenger and Chieftain, you have a video out that same week. I always look forward to your reviews. Really interested to see how you feel about this bike after a while compared to your Road Glide.

Nice video keep up the good work fella

Whats crazy is the dark horse has the gloss finish on the inner fairing. I agree their plastic parts is the weak link, but that offers owners chances to get creative, that plastic that you mentioned, could be painted or plastic dip with a carbon fiber print. The plastic controls is opportunity for a vendor to make a metal version. And i personally think indian needs to offer better colors. Look st the automotive industry for killer color options.

I have a street glide right now but I wouldn’t mind having a pursuit for long distance rides.

Great job on the vid.

I am so close to trading my 2022 Goldwing DCT tour for one of these. I'm mighty impressed with Indian. I recently rode the road glide special. They wanted 40 grand for it out the door.Beautiful motorcycle but no where near as much bike as this Challenger. And for 7 grand less. It's a no brainer.

The aluminum frame is why the Challenger feels so light when you flick it side to side on the road.

Dope vid man😎💨💨🏁

I think Indian gives you more for your money from the factory. I think HD is winning with accessories and having shops available all over the nation. Both are great bikes again it just seems like HD has more options.

Love the video I’m actually interested in one. It sucks that all these years harley still making same bike and I’ve had roadglides from 2010 and currently on a cvo roadglide ultra. I doubt I’ll buy the new cvo for 50k. So Indian also has some crazy prices. But they might cheap out on the plastic parts or flat inner fairing color but they didn’t on the suspension,power,etc. so I have to give them that. I’m off all week might take a ride to NJ dealer near me

You left out that the fairing vent can be closed, using the lever inside the tunnel . Can't close off the vents on a Road Glide

I test rode it today and I felt the throttle had too much play... either not enough power or too much. Was hard to find the sweet spot in the friction zone. Maybe just needs some getting used to... Want to upgrade from my Scout Bobber which is so damned precise, I love it. But it's too small for me.

Your spot on about fit and finish on it.

You were talking about the aesthetics and how you didn’t like some of the little details. Well, those little things are LITTLE things, and they’re also very subjective. But the surface just below the analog gages is the last place you want to be glossy. A shiny surface there could make it difficult, if not impossible, to read the gauges in some lighting conditions.

Dude when was it a issue with the Harley

As far as fit and finish, maybe that’s how Indian is able to give you a superior suspension, electric windshield, powerful engine all stock in exchange for the better fit and finish you get with Harley at a great price. You have to cut cost somewhere and it would appear that Harley uses their money to make the bike look better vs perform better as stock.

I would be interested in sane driving fuel mileage. 70 mph cruising and 55 mpg cruising mileage.

I keep hearing people saying the engine is hot. I don't get it. I have been putting thought into it. I think I might have figured out why others think it's hot and I haven't had that experience. I have a pursuit with lowers. I rode for almost 3 hours in one day last week and it was about 105° most of the ride. The engine temp never went over 192° with stop and go, town riding or highway. Before I bought the bike I saw a ridingfish video where he said point the lower vents toward the motor and you won't feel much of the heat so that's what I did, and it works. So it may be counter intuitive but the Challenger is cooler with hard lower fairings

I'm a daily commuter and currently do that on a Triumph Speedmaster. I've always wondered how I'd like commuting if I owned a big ol bagger lol. As someone who rides the larger baggers, do you think you'd like it as a commuter bike? Or would you rather something smaller?

Someone recommended that the gas cap should open away from you. I totally agree on that one.

Can yu do the same video on a Road Master?

Love those Indian motorcycles! They just keep getting better and better 👍

Just found your channel i love the content keep grinding 💪🏾. I just got my first bike i got a 2006 Suzuki boulevard m50

Indian challenger base model is like 25k now.. was 22 in 2020. Crazy

Man I want this bike so bad. That said I still need to keep my MT-07 for my work commute. No way I’m lane splitting peak hour on this lol

No voice command capabilities?

Bike needs reverse. 900 lbs is a bit much to backup on an incline or a tight parking space.

Refreshing for that honest review. I have a 13 ultra limited stage 4 and a 16 cross country that has the 106 with LSC cam and the fox suspension an inverted forks are exceptional from the factory. Polaris America just needs to get there paint right the power is great from factory on the Indian. Be safe

I have the Elite...

They need to open more dealerships even if the company has to open it's own stores. This bike is major competition for Harley and Indian needs to get more in public view.

Time for a trade in. :)

Indian Challenger Limited Starting at $43,995 Ride away* Australia

Go read the recalls for its electrical systems.

So basically this bike is squatting all over the Harley.....is Marvel Kid going to trade in his Road glide?

Looks just like the new cvo

I'm a Harley guy. I've had my sportster for 7 years. If I ever got a bagger type bike it'd be a goldwing for sure

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It's definitely a copy of Harley but Harley definitely copied the Scout with the new Sportsters, so I say they're even!

If you want premium, you pay more .blacked out makes you more at risk, too get hit, at night.

Harley is over there getting jealous bro😂🤣😂

What is that huge, blocky, bulbous box on top of the forks threatening to topple the bike over the front wheel? Harley doesn't have that. S

I get that Indians are well built motorcycles that come with more from the factory, but I've never been able to get around how they look. It's the area of the bike where the passenger pegs are mounted that kills it for me. It's like a hold over from the Victory days and almost the about of plastic I'd expect from a Japanese bike. That's where Harley wins for me. Harley has the design without the power, but that can always be added.

At $30 k there shouldn't be ANY cheap/plastic parts!!

My Yamaha Star Venture TC is the "coolest" bike I have ever ridden, same torque numbers as well.

Can’t get past the styling. I know it’s subjective.

Where are the voice command features?

How about you just ride the bike and learn to handle it, regardless of the road conditions, like well all had to?

When you were picking this POS due to the insane electrical issues that Polaris don’t give a F to fix you asked which bike would someone pick from the stealership. Why not consider the NON status social statement bike Springfield DH 116?? And if you DO like the Challenger why you didn’t buy it in the first place to save AAAAALL that money you spent to make the RGS sound like a Harley?? Cause someone else did it in NJ and you did the same that’s why to be “cool”. It’s all good brother a lil criticism is always good. Enjoy the ride baby🫡🇺🇸

The bike has problems the anti Harley fan club never mentions.

Brembo brakes are common.

Any motorcycle is faster than a car. So yes you have plenty of power to merge onto a highway. Learn to properly shift gears, that may be the problem with many Indian riders who like to bash Harley products.

I brought a brand new Indian Chieftain Limited and it was the worse bike I’ve ever owned. The bike went into limp mode at 2,000 miles. It wouldn’t go above 30 mph. Also, I was in a state where I was unfamiliar. I thought Indian/Polaris would aid me since the bike was under warranty, but they didn’t. I had to have the bike towed to the dealer I brought it from . After sending it to two different dealers, they told me that the bike had software issues. And they had to build a new software for it. I asked how long would that take, and they said they don’t know. I asked could they just replace the bike. And Polaris/Indian said that they couldn’t replace it. So they expected me to pay for a bike I couldn’t ride. The bike couldn’t be repaired or replaced yet, they expected me to pay for it. I traded that piece of junk for a new Harley Davidson Road Glide Special. The HD dealers are easy to find and they honor their warranty. Be careful with Polaris/ Indian. The bikes and the company are trash.

Why you edit your dislikes?

i am 5/8 and those factory bars they trash test rhode challenger bars are trash and turn signals only on 1 side