Yea, I still don’t really think that warrants a full on tantrum. I agree Gasly should’ve kept the P9, but it’s is only a P9. It’s something you can hold in your frustration for the private debrief.

- The team then allows Ocon to undercut him...? Ocon had to box on lap 1 because he had a puncture. What does Gasly expect.... for Ocon to do as many laps on a set of hards as Gasly on a set of mediums and hards together??? It's pretty flippin obvious Ocon had to stop earlier to get his second set of hards. It was just Gasly behaving like the frustrated little child he is, as usual. Completely blowing a gasket over 1 point smh.

Gasly was faster than Ocon and would pass him on track anyway, the call to replace them at the end was so disrespectful but I dont expect more from toxic bond of alpine and ocon when it comes to respect

Anyway, Alpine pitwall did unnecessary thing with swapping Ocon with Gasly in the last lap

All finished passes on teammates were team strategy calls or pit stop undercuts, Norris on Piastri, Hamilton on Russel, Lawson on Tsunoda* so don't be so sure Gasly would pass Ocon

Much appreciated.

Thank you! 🥳

Thanks! @mattp1tommy why can't you do this yourselves?

Respect

Yeah that's pretty good.

Im no gambler but thats got to be a good bet to win

It's wild... But no extra points for matt!

Yea, deserves AT LEAST one extra point for that!

gotta be worth more than one point

Convenient for Tik Tok addicted kids with no attention span.

@@armingleiner5292 got em

@@armingleiner5292L

@@armingleiner5292facts

​@@armingleiner5292 What are you smoking? Having time stamps has nothing to do with attention span. For example, i don't want to watch the part where they explain the Perez coming back because i watch other categories and it's a normal thing to retire the car, fix and come back to the track. WEC is an example.

Me too OP. As soon as AT announced the drivers i thought that.

I hope so!

Ricciardo is washed they should get someone out of the red bull program

That's exactly what they're working on

Seeing how Lawson is doing after merely 4 races, you may start wondering wether Danni Ric coming back at all

Agreed. George seems to expect respect and teamwork from Lewis. He needs to have a chat with Nico, get his expectations aligned with reality.

The same for Lando and Oscar. Did you see Lando's face after the qualifying during the press conference? he was not happy to be beaten by Oscar...

It’d definitely end up in a Rosberg/Hamilton in Barcelona incident.

@@IamHailey8 apart from Monza there doesn't seem to be that tense of a relationship between Oscar and Lando

AMG not Benz

Can’t believe they didn’t show the 2 best moves 😂

Agreed

I think going forward that should absolutely be the case. But to retroactively do it kind of sucks

The chances of getting 1 driver correct are 1/20 The chances of getting the top 5 are 1/20 x 1/20 x 1/20 x 1/20 x 1/20 = 1/3200000. Tremendous job by Matt. Definitely deserving of an extra point.

@@joshoriordan3325 that would only be 1/3200000 if all cars and drivers were equally likely to beat the others, and we all know it's not the case (plus the real chances would be 1/20 * 1/19 * 1/18 * 1/17 * 1/16, so 1/1 860 480)

If Marko said North American instead of South, he'd be right

😂😂@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168

​@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168The NAFTA of F1

Funny how they are the only drivers from NA and they all get destroyed by their teammate, unlike anyone else on the grid

the S in Slow or the V in Victory ..... mmmmm

Real

Lol, he's such a nice guy😂

I wonder if RB already gave the seat to Liam before the JP race.. or gave Sergio an ultimatum

I think it depends on how well Daniel performs in the last few races. if he sucks Liam would be called up, otherwise Daniel would get the RB seat. @@wotwot6868

Liam ? 😂😂raced in f1 for three races and you are going to parachute him into the top team ? Without paying his dues ? 🤡🤡🤡

Would it make him the only champion crowned on a non-race day?

@@jakem5039 Probably 😂.

@@gameofender4463 So he'd be crowned at AD21, Suzuka when he didn't know he had won, and now a sprint race?? Bruh Max can't just win a normal title

@@jakem5039 I'm not sure. But it would feel wrong - surely you'd want to go out and celebrate the night on becoming a world champion ... only to have the main race the next day.

@@invincibleisaac2000 And to not even be up on the podium when you win it

+1

They already took action by bringing in DR. They have a plan. They want someone who is comfortable driving the RB car and who is closer to Max, DR has proven that in the past. And if you can't deal with the pressure, like Checo for instance, you won't be in that seat for long. Checo knows he is done, he made too much of a mess and it doesn't seem to get any better as the season progresses. So then it's pretty clear for RB they need to act. It's not a given RB will be as dominant next year so they need someone who is more reliable and brings in the points. Checo is still in second place because the gap is so big to the other teams. And yet Lewis is already closing in on him, in the Mercedes...that is insane! If other cars were closer he would have been even further off and then he becomes a risk. So for next year they can't take that risk, therefore he will be replaced. There is no other outcome.

Horner will always say that about any RB or AT driver. He's been in the game too long to give away anything, lets face it. He said something similar about De Vries, and we know how that turned out. If Danni Ric didn't break his hand he would have started in the RB in Quatar.

@@andrer8583hasn’t Liam outperformed Danny?

@@hiufgterde Danny Ric the same that couldnt stand the Max Verstappen pressure (even with him not being champion) and went flying to Renault?

@@marcbrisson3 Tough to compare I am afraid, the AT has seen some big upgrades since DR has been in it.

It was shown on Sky, as they use the same feed, and Russell called it "plan b" if I remember correctly. Mercedes knew they needed to have some short odds contingencies to take advantage should the race go sideways. It's basically the same low chance strategy that Red Bull took with Max in Singapore. Go long and pray for a timely safety car.

He still would’ve finished ahead of Hamilton if not for team orders. And also in qualifying Mercedes unnecessarily sent him out half way through Q3 and Lewis and everyone else got much better track conditions at the end.

Why the beef with Skysports? It continue to be the best commentary during the race

If you call that car dominant you mean the other red bull is dominant remember max almost beat bottas w11 in 2020 and max has so many DNF so max and lewis the ones make the car dominant in their own skill yes w11 and RB19 is so fast and rocketship but if the driver not good he make it lock like it is not the fastest car the next three races is huge for checo if dont do well and lost secend to lewis mercedes at the moment not good eather not surprised DR marko do somthing crazy about it

Perez off weekends + Lewis incredible consistency... and there's your 33 points gap.

that's what we, the audience, would like to see.... it is not something RB(as a team), wants to see happening.

Funny thing is... that has everything to do with Checo and not all that much with Lewis doing amazing things....

Thats exactly the issue with Checo...not consistent

Stroll go ? Ahahaaahhahaaahaa, yea not happening =) Altho to be fair, AM bottled it this season with development, until they have a consistently top 5 performing car for the season, it does not really matter that Stroll is driving it, he is ok as a mid fielder.

''sergio'' not perez, so we can call them the triple s squad xD

Oh well said, I'm sure he knows himself he's in trouble and then that's putting pressure on himself to do better and hence making these ridiculous mistakes.

I think he's gone and they already decided that earlier on. They didn't bring DR back for no reason.

I know they’ve just signed up Riccardo at Alpha Tauri for next year and Perez doesn’t finish his contract until the end of the season. But I honestly believe if Perez has a few more performances like this weekend they’ll replace him with Riccardo next season.

@@lamsmiley1944 If that were the case I would argue he was trying to be fired.

Let's face it, after he missed q3 like 5 times in a row he should have been under threat but people acted like "helping secure the constructors chapionship" in a rocketship is worth keeping him.

I know he and Max are friends but Max would kill that relationship to keep winning. I don’t see why Lando would make that move

U assies have a great new driver to cheer on for sure😁 this guy is going places. 1st places.

I doubt Lando is going to Red Bull to play second fiddle to Max if McLaren continue their current trajectory. He would be mad to do so.

I can't see Lando leaving. I reckon they will put Ricciardo in the RB and Lawson in AT.

I was actually really hoping to see a Max and Piastri team at RedBull

Man that's ridiculous stats! Perez should almost always finish behind Max. Sure he's not as good and efficient so maybe a few races he'll get 3rd/4th but Max having 15 podiums and Perez having 8 and crashing and all that... I think at this point they're keeping him so there's no competition and difficulty within the team. He does enough to hopefully finish 2nd in the Championship, get the constructors title and that's it...

Brodie saying “that’s it”jaja ricardo gasley and Albon are miles behind the stats Perez has brought to Red Bull. This is like when people would compare Bottas to Hamilton except Perez actually wins races and gets consistent podiums

I think that's exactly what Marko was trying to say and he is not completely wrong

incredible that 3 weeks after people are stil suporting Marko's racist message

I see what you’re saying and agree. Harsh on JPM though

​@@gatograssoit was racist because he generalized a whole continent of people but he can still be right about perez as an individual person....

​@@jaja8022Marko kinda ruined his assessment by bringing the needless South American reference.

But tbh there was no chance Ham would catch Leclerc so it would've been better for Merc to keep 5th and 6th, but instead it's now 5th and 7th.

but russell's speed was dropping rapidly. Sainz would have passed them both. They should have made the switch earlier on so Hamilton could have caught up with leclerc and had george pit

@@asunbeam5479 they should've, but instead they decided to wait and then swapped them when Russell would be a sitting duck. At that point it made sense to keep ham behind coz sainz didnt have a big delta advantage on lewis and with a bit of racecraft, they could've secured a 5 and 6. Oh well.

@@yanikdavid3708 Problem is you think what Sainz did is easy. Sai was faster and almost crashed into back of Ham a few times.

@@MrBashem I'm not denying that it isn't easy but it wouldn't have been impossible.

He's been terrible. He really didn't deserve that seat In the first place anyway coming 4th in F2

News probably come AFTER the US GPs

If Logan Sargeant cannot stand that kind of pressure, they should help him out of his misery and just let him go. That would be the humane thing to do.

Danny probably should be in that seat, especially because Perez no longer deserves it. I think the problem is that Danny has already signed a contract with AT for next year though, so it ain't gonna happen until 2025 at the earliest. If I'm Red Bull, I *don't* want to put a rookie in that seat, if only because Max will eat them alive. Going with a rookie would only make sense to grow them into their potential, and while Red Bull has plenty of talent waiting in the wings, it's going to take a very resilient driver to be able to do that under Max. Ricciardo is a seasoned veteran, he knows how to deal with Max, so he'd be a perfect option. Albon could probably do well, but I think he's better off staying with Williams and helping them grow their team, and I think he suits their car very well. I think Ricciardo's time at McLaren shows that it's more than just driver talent at play, it's also about matching the driver to the abilities of the car. I think both driver and car can benefit from stability rather than just jumping around from team to team every time an opportunity arises.

Yes, the Goatifi award championship is on fire tbh

@@rars0n I just can't see Red Bull or Ricciardo creating a contract for Alphatari that doesn't allow Danny to switch to Red Bull, just as they allegedly have had contracts that allowed drivers to be "demoted" from Red Bull to Alphatari.

P2 in WDC, but okay

as long as Lawson only tries to be 2nd best in RBR, he would be fine. Their expectation for the 2nd driver of RBR, is always get 2nd if Max is 1st. and get ready to get 1st if Max has a bad day. The problem with checo he thinks he can beat Max in consistency, and that blew up in his face after Australia.

Checo is not actually challenging him though. Max only needs 3 more points to win the championship. If he gets those in the next sprint race, the WDC is his, even before race day. It's really only a formality now. I'm sure they're already chilling the champagne for the celebrations. It would be interesting though to see a hungover Maxs race-form on a sunday 😂

@@janaruhl7313he’d probably still win or start puking out the car and create a red flag for slippery conditions

⁠@@janaruhl7313obviously, but you don’t win the championship until it’s mathematically impossible for anyone to catch. It’s been a formality since Monaco

@@janaruhl7313 Your reply makes me feel you haven’t read my entire post.

He's chancing it for results. Would be great if more people had similar inclinations.

There wasnt really anything else for him to do if he wants a podium there than to gamble on it. It wasnt the right call with tyres going away enough that he couldnt keep delta before pitting, but he didnt realistically lose a single position in the end for it. If he went for a 2 stop he probably was finishing 7th anyway, maximum 6th ahead of carlos maybe.

@@FrancisFjordCupola Others don't want to fail

Cos it's unbelievably difficult to accept that you're just not good enough. I feel for them but they were paired with the greats of the sport.

Or that Lawson himself is.

He shouldn't worry. Unless a generational talent (or generational money lol) appears, he's pretty much guaranteed for 2025. He only has to worry about what he's going to do in 2024, and how would he keep growing and not hamper his potential. So, RB, please take care of Lawson.

I think RB is taking it's time to avoid having another DeVries situation.

@I almost hope for Lawson that he doesn’t go straight to Red Bull, because I think that could tank his progress

Truth is RB is in a driver crisis. Checo is bad, yuki doesn't have the temperament, Liam doesn't have the experience, Daniel isnt in top form. Max is so elite, he's covering a giant problem

yes

2/10 for him going out for a second time lol

Checo should be erased from the rating after last week

Both him and Sargeant.

It's gonna be a big fat 0

Stroll will get a better score than Perez and Sargent combined.

Creates drama for no reason

I would be mad as well to be honest. Im not an F1 driver but if I was an F1 driver I would NEVER purposefully let someone pass me. Even if it was my teammate or was for a “better strategy” in my opinion if you are going to pass someone you need to earn it.

Your going to see him all 2024 in that Red Bull seat Ricardo won’t get out of AT

@omarsalcido8891 Red Bull have dropped people for less. Red Bull can't afford performance like that best season as its only a matter of time before other teams close the gap. The other side of things they'll lose Lawson if they don't find him a seat. They may promote Tsunoda, leading Ricardo and Lawson at Alfa Tauri?

People get fired for coming second, aka losing in the championship game/series constantly in team sports.

Well the championship is not done yet, and 1 more DNF or botched qualy from Sergio will make the fight very close. Lewis is 33 behind currently, that is not a lot considering the form Sergio showed lately. Plus it is always relative, if you have a rocket ship while everyone else drive a bicycle then even coming under threat during the season is a bad performance, next year will probably be no where near as dominant (Unless Newey wakes up one day and decides that peace is not an option, who knows).

That's not why he might get fired. It's the only reason he hasn't been yet.

@@megalamanooblol People said that last year too lol.

After Singapore I guess that's mutual. Checo just seems to have lost his ability to have a clean race. Maybe he already is informed about his fate at the end of this season. Can't imagine any other reason for his lacking current form.

Lewis hates anyone who isn't willing to play the role of sidekick.

When their personal interest comes in conflict, they both advocate for their own race. I don't see any evidence that their relationship is hostile. I think fans are just overblowing it.

Very rarely are F1 teammates any sort of good friends unless its clear theres a difference in their level. It was easy for Gasly to be friends with Tsunoda when Tsunoda was new and wasnt at his current level yet because he was the clear star. Same with Alonso being friendly and nice about Stroll at the start of the season, bc he is second and Stroll comfortably behind, but I guarantee if Stroll and Alonso were equal terms and fighting for those p2's among themselves they wouldnt have been such buddies.

I wish RB would put Lawson in Perez’s car , that would be amazing

​@@hittrewweuy7595or move yuki up and go lawson danny for a season

​@@eliaelirko9849 Yuki doesn't have the temperament for a top team yet. Lawson doesn't have the experience. Daniel doesn't have the form

he has only done a few races though

Yes he's 4-0 up but some content is needed... The Netherlands he was slower than Yuki who just got screwed over by strategy. Italy and Singapore Yuki DNS/DNF through no fault of his own, and Japan they were inseparable the whole weekend and could easily have gone either way. He's doing an incredible job, but using that as a stat to claim he should have a seat is pretty meaningless.

that would be a very bad idea actually. The dude does a few races and now suddenly you want him in the RB seat? I don't know what you've been smoking but that's not gonna happen.

But that’s what Redbull is doing now. So what would they learn by subbing Liam in for Daniel again that they haven’t already learnt since Zandvoort?

​@@MaxFromSydney1thing is putting Yuki or Liam in the RB will very likely be a Gasly, Albon situation. Ricardo is a lil more experienced so who ever impresses next year in the AT will get the 2nd RB seat in 25. Liam might be a wildcard for 25 if he does get loaned to Williams for next year and impresses or possibly bests Albon.

@@yanikdavid3708 Honestly skill wise I think Yuki could go to RB next year, the problem is that he is still hasnt chilled out enough, he is much better than previous years, but still not there, in 2025 I think he will be ready. IMHO just put Daniel in RB for 2024 (see if the Honey Badger really still has it at the top with all possible motivation of a Championship), Liam + Yuki in AT for 2024. For 2025 just see how things shake out, ether Daniel proves he still got it and keeps the seat or Yuki goes in instead. This will allow Liam to get experience + gets you a free seat for a rookie.

@@MaxFromSydney1 Lawson will get his seat at AT next year and Daniel will get the RB seat. Checo will be out. Problem solved.

it does matter... as he needs not to be someone who could bother Verstappen and interpose with his racing and his wins.

Constructors matters more to the employees as they all get a bonus from winning it. The Drivers Championship is more prestigious and everyone on the grid knows that!

Yeah that’s not the race to use as your main example lol

​@@eugenuxwhy would red bull want someone to challenge max?.

This is a horrible take lmao. When staff bonuses are tied to winning the constructor's championship, it will matter to the entire team, not to mention, being able to represent yourself as being part of the best team on the grid. Winning the WDC is usually given greater celebration because it advertises your car and driver's dominance more and is a more 'human' achievement as its tied quite literally to 1 human being. Jumping to the conclusion that you landed on based off of just that, is weird af.

Yess either him or lando

​@DianSwart Lando couldn't handle the abuse to his fragile ego

Lawson looks good but I feel Verstappen would crush him. Would prefer to see Norris in that Red Bull instead. Unlikely untill 2025 though. I would have replaced Tsunoda with Lawson for 2024.

@@FS02TER naah, Noris is settled ar McLaren, as I see it, what Max is to RB is Norris to McLaren

In reality, Max made his own overtaking spot in a different position to where it usually happens. What's the real difference is that Max can reign himself in and unleash himself at right moment. Look at that last stint for example... what gap did he have to Leclerc? Nothing left of it at the end of the race. Pitted just one lap too late.

Yes. Especially if the car is retired. Once retired that's it. You've decided to exit the race and you can't come back in, for whatever reason.

@@peterkitts8815I think it should depend on when the penalty was issued. If the driver gets penalized while out on track, and fails to serve the penalty, then it should go to the next race as a grid drop. If they get a penalty after returning to the garage, they should get an opportunity to go back out on track and serve the penalty within a certain amount of laps completed by the leader, and once that lap limit is up, then it goes to the next race. Or something like that. This is assuming that 1) the rules should be changed (I honestly don’t think they should, this is just an idea for if it does get changed), and 2) the car makes it back to the grid on its own merit and not with intervention by track marshals or other drivers or whatever.

Do you do the same thing for drivers finishing 11th or lower since they're not getting penalized if they drop from 11 to 12? What about if the driver is 10 sec ahead and gets a 5 sec penalty? They're "not being penalized" either. Reality is there have always been penalties that were meaningless within the context of the race they were given, this is just another one.

@@peterkitts8815 I personally think it's inappropriate for a car to go back on track once they are over 2 laps down. In order to catch up they would require a red flag or similar intervention, so I think they'd just be driving hundreds of kilometres for no reason.

And the wheels off every other car around him

No he is driving the FRONT WINGS off the car....

Lol its simply in the rules. The fact that RBR knows that and Skysports dont 😂 And RBR had contact with race director before they send Checo out again as well. It was checked by race director before hand lol Skysports cant handle the fact that RBR knows the rule book so well....

He went out, came in, did pitstop with 5sec penalty (yes another one than the one which WAS shown on live stream), went out again and again came in pits to retire. It simply wasnt shown on tv. Look at the onboard of Checo on F1TV

CHECO WASNT DNF.... thats the difference. He was in the garage, they repared the steering and the front wing and he was send out again. He wasnt DNF.

@@gealingeman8643For sure he was out of the car. George wasn’t allowed to continue his race after stopping in Silverstone and checking on Zhou. And if I’m not mistaken DNF was shown on TV

@@gealingeman8643and I checked this on F1TV. The replay (selecting Checo’s camera) didn’t show a normal stop; only a get-out-get-in-retire

*checks notes* RB won two Constructor championships and (soon) three Driver championships with Perez as a clear second driver, not imposing any real risk on Verstappen. He is also second in the driver's standings. He isn't performing too well, but he did the bare minimum nonetheless. If the championship was closer than it would make sense, but currently there's no point of changing a driver that is proven to do what he needs to do.

​@@5atoruIf there had been any real competition from the other teams this year then Red Bull would not have won the constructors title with Perez performing at his current level. He had some decent results at the start of the season but since then it's not been good. He's only still second in the drivers championship due to it being so close between the next best teams.

Put Lawson in the other redbull and he awaits the same faith as Albon and Gasly before him, if you want to ruin another rookies career sure.

​@@5atoru Checo fumbled the 1st WCC. Fumbled 2nd in WDC last year to Charles who was 100+pts behind Max. Has no real contribution in WCC in 23, since Max is beating Mercedes by 100 pts. Wipe the Salsa off your notes

​@@5atoru watch him finish behind Hamilton in the championship

BS Sergio was winning 2 Grand Prixs while Devries was crashing out on his own.

Yeah im sure RB remote controlled Perez from the pit wall to crash into KMag. Stupidest tinfoil hat theory Ive heard.

Well… first of all, Yuki dns/dnf'ed in 2 out of 3 races and in todays race he was faster than Lawson, but the team didn't want them to switch. Otherwise Yuki would've finished ahead of him as he was stuck behind him.

@@wasguckstduso9125 And in Zandvoort it was his penalty + red flag that moved him behind Lawson.

@@soundscape26 don’t forget his terrible strategy… 50 laps on softs is just unbelievable

@@wasguckstduso9125 Yes, that as well.