I just bought a sport chief a month ago. The bike is a monster.

I grew up always wanting a Harley but the Indian scout bobber caught my eye last year and I never looked back. I purchased my scout bobber last year. Which was my very first bike. I'm glad that I went with an Indian. When it comes to time to getting a touring bike, it'll definitely be the pursuit

I'm a "youtuber" who has converted my entire channel to center around Indian. I do happen to think they build, at the very least, an equivalent platform that ticks the boxes of being American made, good technology and gives you more for your dollar than Harley does. I think that while Indian does indeed have an uphill battle, Polaris is a far larger company and can supply the capital it takes to allow Indian to iterate their bikes and slowly take back some of the behemoth market share of HD. I've taken the risk and hope others do as well by making content surrounded by Indian and I do think that the KZfaq space is important to Indian/Polaris as most people researching their next bike head to YT to see reviews etc. I agree with your assessments in this video. My 2023 Indian Pursuit is a fantastic bike and my wife's 2023 Sport Chief is amazing....and we're basically converting it into a Super Chief (eqiv to Heritage). I think the Sport Chief can and will be a fantastic do it all bike with better suspension/brakes that can do medium to long rides properly equipped. Now if we can just get the aftermarket to take some chances and get 30-50% of the way towards what they do with Harley, you'll see more people take the Indian option more seriously.

I bought a 2022 Pursuit Limited in September of 2022 in Crimson and Maroon, like the one you showed. I had never owned a Harley in my life with over 50 years of riding. I've been a Suzuki rider for all of it. Finally, I decided it was time for a touring bike since I've retired. Mt trip to the Harley dealership was very bad. After asking what I was riding, the guy that I was dealing with bad mouthed my ride, and at that time, I turned around and left. After much research, I decided to go look at the Pursuit, and while I was there they asked what I was riding and there was no bad mouthing just interest then after sitting on the Pursuit I decided that was the bike for me. It was a huge step up from my 2003 Volusia 800 but well worth it. I'm outside of Baton Rouge, and I've only seen one Roadmaster in my area, but hopefully, there will be more coming, Indian makes a great bike.

Before I bought my brand new 2021 Indian Chieftain 116 Dark Horse, I looked at HD Street Glide, but it didn't handled as good as the Indian, didn't have the adjustable screen, more exclusive and here in England the Indian comes with a 5 year warranty as standard!

I know that there are probably some great dealers out there, but my local Indian dealer is definitely NOT one of them. Before I bought my current bike I was really interested in the Challenger. My local dealer is a powersports dealer with a much bigger emphasis on atvs, side by sides, and jet skis. I went to look at the Challenger and was completely ignored by the sales staff. They only had six new Indians total and after walking through the showroom and spending probably 15-20 minutes looking specifically in the Indian section, none of the staff ever spoke to me once. My Harley dealer is great, they have a huge selection of bikes and all the staff are friendly and everyone there speaks to you and asks to help you. I'm very happy with my dealer and my 2023 Street Glide Special.

I like my 2016 Chief Vintage. I am happy with it.

My stunning 2019 Indian Springfield in steel gray and burgundy metallic, and I concur, Cruiser Heaven, all day, every day!

Right! That is one of the things that drew me into IMC initially was that they were so different and performed as well as they looked. The first time I cracked the throttle on the Challenger I was hooked. Good video GG.

I’m in love with the Indian brand. I had a scout first, and now on the Springfield dark horse.

I appreciate your insight and fairness. I was a HD rider and now after lots of research and vids like yours my next bike will be a Chief Bobber Dark horse with ride command.

Oddly, I've never ridden a new Indian. I really should go demo one. Fantastic job sharing your thoughts on the heritage softail vs. the sport chief.

Good point on it being algorithm driven. I've been happy with my 2019 Indian Springfield. One thing I miss about the old KZfaq before it became such a algorithm / business. So much more broadly interesting. Just because I watched a video on washer repair don't mean I want to be shown 50 appliance repair creators.

Another problem Indian has is not having the network like HD. The closest dealer to me is 100 miles away and I had to drive even further to buy my Scout due to finding the model I wanted. I also did not even know much about Indian before stumbling upon them at a dealership by chance with a friend. I do not recall ever seeing a TV ad for Indian as well. People know the HD brand and relate to it as the top of the food chain in bikes.

Love my 2023 Indian Chief Darkhorse Bobber... I took my owneeship late this year, and now it sits in storage till Spring... or a really warm day this Autumn.. lol Even with the limited time spent on the road this year, in my area, so many people gave themselves whiplash when takeing a look at it as i drove past them.

Thats the reasons why im gonna buy one...

I ride a 2015 Chief Vintage.My Harley riding friends hate my bike because when people check out my bike and ask about it and I am talking old and young folks look at it and then walk right past the Harleys.Then I here the same stuff "it's not a real Indian". Then the get on how many Harley dealerships there are vs.Indian.Now I have owned many Harleys in my time but my buddies seen to forget that and try to educate me on their bikes,I have to remind them of their short memories.I love my Chief it fast out of the box,you dont have to put hundreds of dollars into it to make it run fast well as fast as a cruiser can get.I find that die hard Harley riders don't even know about the various Indian models.I guess they think that if they ignore them they don't exist. I am 72 years old and have been riding since I was 16 so I have seen a lot of stuff.Iv'e seen riders come and go.Well I digress.

i own my scout 2017 from day one on my channel with my own money 👍🏼 love it! also have a triumph, honda, royal enfield as well . Indian makes a great bike for sure. You tube views come from HD bc larger market to go after...... i'll keep riding my scout 6 years in and if ppl watch so be it. if not? oh well lol i'm NOT buying a brand for a channel. buying what i want nice talk Dan

Ok Kudos , I'm in agreement . Harley owner and picking up my 2023 Indian Super Chief this weekend .

I’ve been riding since the early eighties. I’ve owned Hondas, Harley and bought my first Indian last year. I did extensive research and knew exactly what I wanted when I walked into the dealership. I had to special order my 2023 super chief limited icon. Well worth the 3 month wait. Extremely happy with my choice

Almost finished customizing my Scout Bobber. This is my second bike with the 10 inch risers.

I had a Victory Vegas 8 ball... great bike... took it Indian for an upgrade and wasnt offered a trade in value after the brand was shut down. Wasn't impressed.

Funny thing is that some 2-3 years ago, HD was literally ´shitting´ on any private content creator and only after plethora of youtubers were invited to multiple demo events by Indian Motorcycle and were speaking good about them and have a good time there, voilá - Motor Company make them a call...and as they were/are still mostly HD riders, you than have content like for current CVOs, where they are all talking about them as if HD invented some kind of a space ship, while in fact they barely ( I´mean generally ) catch up with Challenger/Pursuit platform. Never mind, when Indian Motorcycle do its homework, they are ahead again - business as usual. What is not usual, is that this time, it could be even ahead of also BMW, Honda etc. Therefore this competition is EXTREMELY good for both brands, although each has different cards to play including youtubers...

Cool bike, ride it safely! I wish an Indian were closer to me, I would 100% go take a look at - and test ride - what they've got! That's my biggest stumbling block... I like having 3 HD dealers within 45 mins of me.

I post a few videos on my spare time sadly only 17 subscribers but I guess that’s part of the KZfaq growth. I ride a 2018 Indian Roadmaster.

I'm a Harley guy myself, but I'd like to see those that loathe the "Harley brand(ing)" and steer towards the metric brands, buy an Indian instead. Two successful American motorcycle brands can only be good for the consumer.

Sadly some Harley Fanboys will not try anyother motorcycle because to them everything on two wheels is a copy of a Harley! The Indian Sport Chief in my eyes looks nothing like a Harley low rider S, not in style or Engine including the front fairing not even close, The only thing is that is in that category of bike, Just like every manufacture has a Truck line up.

I went HD because of the aftermarket support. When I modified my metric, it was a pain, and I needed to fabricate parts.

Ding ding ding! You win the big prize. Eyeballs…😎

Really good video

In your video, your voice us completely clear and the engine is silent. That’s the way I like it.

Good video. I agree with your comments. I think Indian needs to significantly increase their dealer network. I'm currently in the market for a new bike, and am deciding between the HD Low rider S, and the Indian Sport Chief. Where I live, there are three HD dealers within 30-40 minute ride, while only one Indian dealer that is almost 2 hours away. It's not a deal breaker for me, and am still considering the Sport Chief, but for many others this may be a key factor in their decision.

walk into my local dealer gets treated as if you don't exist, did not had a indian dealer closed by, so i walk into a honda power sport and they show me and let me test at Rebell 1100, fell in love with it. Now i saw an indian sport chief and it is just a pefect sister to my Rebell. Just tested it and woe i love it. Indian look just. great

Went from a Scout Bobber to a Sport Chief and love it. Just got exhaust/tune/intake and cannot wait to experience it now 😍

I live my sport chief....the new chief line only came out in 22 so over the next couple years the aftermarket will hioefully start making some cool stuff

A year ago, I made the best decision of my life by purchasing an Indian Scout Bobber. What sets Indian motorcycles apart for me is their rarity, encountering one outside is a distinctive experience, making it more unique. I prefer not to conform to popular trends and enjoy the exclusivity of riding an Indian. Any Indian motorcycle is a head-turner, providing an excellent riding experience that is truly worth your time. I've customized mine with a riser, a Saddlemen seat, and some Ohlin's shocks, and now it's absolutely perfect.

This was a good video with a great question. The problem truly is Indian motorcycles are missing the organic factor. I create content and I also ride a Indian. I would be glad to make a response video to your video to give you a more in-depth view from a actual Indian owners .

I originally started watching your channel when I was researching the Heritage. Your input helped me make a decision to purchase one. My experience with my first Heritage convinced me to purchase a second one a month ago when I was shopping for something lighter than the Road Glide Limited I was riding. You had a video out some time back where you created a dealership map for HD and Indian. My local dealer is a BMW/Indian/Triumph dealer and while I loved my GS 1250 Adventure my experience with them was less than great so I tend to shy away from them. Dealler network is a key for me. Until Indian addresses this by opening more dealers and monitoring what their dealers are doing they will never be in the same (sales) league with HD I don't think. Then again...what do I know I'm just a Harley guy. I will say that Indian's Challenger is likely a superior bike to the Road Glide from a performance and suspension point of view. Would I buy one...I won't say never but I would say probably not just due to looks alone. I've never been a big fan of the looks. I know, it's subjective but I'm honest. As for tech, HD is way behind Indian but they're making progress. Like you said...one bite at a time. Harley isn't famous for making fast bikes and their technology department moves just as fast. LOL. There's a million things Harley could improve to make the brand better. The way I feel when I'm riding mine isn't one of them.

When we got our new ride in 2020...we considered Indian...but the closest dealer was 3.5 hrs away....I would have love to test one. So I went with Harley....my dealer is only 1 hr away. Great video...thanks for sharing...stay safe out there!!😎🤙👍🤙👍🇨🇦

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I bought a Scout last year, but I'm thinking of an upgrade. I'm looking at this model or a Chief Dark Horse. Thanks for the video.

I have a Indian pursuit and I’m trying to grow KZfaq channel with it. I know I still need to get better with content but I’m trying. Hopefully having something different will help on top of it being a awesome bike

I recently traded my 2022 Holda Goldwing Tour DCT for the Indian Chieftain Darkhorse and I couldnt be happier about it. The Honda is amazing but the Indian gave me back a clutch and that visceral experiance I was looking for. It's a great product and I shall be sticking with Indian going forward if they keep down this road. I live close to Hartford Connecticut and have three dealers within 80 miles and the closest is just 35 miles from me so I lucked out. I went initially to Harley and test rode the Street Glide Special. They wanted 39845 bucks for it though and it was a Cow to get it into Neutral. The indian has more power, Better handling, LEDs all round, Remote locking saddlebags, It went into neutral and it's 7 grand cheaper. Greedy Harley dealer.

I'm going to start a KZfaq channel for the Indian sport chief i just bought because of this reason. There isn't much to watch on KZfaq and it was very frustrating trying to buy aftermarket parts.

Man you hit it on the head about why some people bought Harley

I think that part of Indian’s problem is that there’s a lack of aftermarket parts, like full exhausts, etc.

That is why, should I choose a smaller bike, my next purchase may very well be a Royal Enfield. The guy who owns the company is truly a motorcycle guy. Much like Soichiro Honda, Who believed that performance and quality were the first priority.

My only gripe is they gotta cool it with the matte paint. It's so lazy and played out. I feel like they have more matte than gloss paint jobs in the bikes I like. Also the rear fender on the chief is just strange looking.

Another point to make is the aftermarket support and how that affects the algorithm: Harley has a seemingly endless amount of aftermarket parts that people can customize with and make their bikes any style or theme they want. And people genuinely like to watch other people customize their bikes and watch informatively on how to install parts, I hope with all the positive reviews of Indian, as mentioned in the video, the demand for the aftermarket Indian parts drives to compete with HD.

When it came time to buy my bike, the sport chief just released. I went to the only Indian dealership near me and wasn’t even allowed to sit on the bike. I was the only customer there. I Walked out, went to a Harley dealership and literally sat on every bike, was served lunch, talked with other riders that stopped by, got a tour of the service dept and ultimately got a brand new FXLRS. I’ve been on rides with the guy that sold me the bike. Ain’t no way Indian holds a candle to that type of customer service. Indian did more to sell me on a Harley than the HD dealership staff.

For me, Harley just has more mechanics more merch more parts. HD corporate kind of sucks, but I like the ease of access. My closest Indian dealer is 150 miles away. I didn’t want to keep having to ride there for any warranty work or issues I might have had. But I love running into Indian riders out on the roads.

Desert Heat; It's a dry heat, something you build up to 😎

As a sports bike guy I love the look of the Sports Chief and would love to have one but if it came down to it I'd probably buy the Harley Lowrider S simply for the resale value and aftermarket/factory support that I know I'd get with a Harley. Feels almost unfair on the Indian but it feels like the safer choice when the bikes are so comparable.

Seems like all I see on KZfaq is how this new Indian model and that new Indian model are all Harley killers. But I never see em on the road. They look cool. But I’ve still only seen the scout in person.

I have noticed too about Indians not being promoted openly... weird enough I thought I d find their kiosk at our annual motorbike show but nada just H-D bikes... Anyways even if my first love was a H-D bike, my first purchase will be an Indian 🫶

13:05 Yea but we've already seen the 85...

I think Indian motors are sexy… I have a deluxe, but I wouldn’t mind picking up a super chief limited…

Nice video. You are clearly impressed wit h the Indian's you have ridden. They are definitely great bikes on paper -- I have never ridden one. Funny enough, one of my riding buddies and I were just discussing yesterday that there is no Indian dealership in Los Angeles, and we can't figure out why? Indian, if you are listening, reach out to me and let's talk about it!

I'm considering trading my 2021 Harley Davidson Street Glide Special for an Indian Springfield ✊🏽🏜️🌵

I think if Indian could adjust their price point a bit , that would help. A lot of the mindset may be “If I have to spend that much money, I might as well buy a Harley.” Not a dig at Indian either . Sounds like they’re putting out a very solid product . Shoutout to your uncle 😂

I wonder how that Indian fairs in contrast with Moto Guzzi v7 stone

Is Indian still built in the USA? My CVO and Road Guide both made in Thailand and both I sold due to way too many issues from engine to software and that’s 2 different bikes, same issues.

Just to let people know that a friend recently purchased a scout bobber 1.5 weeks ago brand new and has lost acceleration engine light on. It turns on no problem mechanically it’s wonderful but no throttle. Under warranty of course. Dealership will Pug in & see. Not discouraging just a little annoying for my friend. Understandably electronics can go haywire. At the moment my friend’s bobber & another are the only 2 silver type colours available in Australia. Forgot the exact paint colour name. Apparently 2 of a kind at the moment available in Australia.

I ride whatever but personally own 2 Indians. I do videos on both of them.

There are more HD dealers where I live. Other than the HD Pan American, I think Indian bikes are nicer.

I'm gonna buy an Indian motorcycle 🏍️, I'm actually the opposite I don't follow people I don't follow what others have. If everyone have Harley doesn't mean that I have to have one

Probably because the percentage of Polaris motorcycles sold is a tiny fraction of the number of Harley’s sold each year. Latest official stats put them at less than 3% of domestic sales compared to nearly 30% for HD.

Indian needs to also flood the market with their bikes so more people see more of them on the road thus adding to trust in the brand. Bottom line is Harley is generally cheaper and has way more of a cult like following than Indian.

Hands down....if want a better quality cruiser buy an Indian!

My Super Chief Limited eats Harleys for breakfast, lunch dinner and dessert. Love it.

Sport Chief has 29.5 degree lean angle.,.which is 1 degree more than a standard Chief. What a joke, considering my Roadmaster has 31 degrees. Any bike called "sport" needs at the very least 32 degrees IMHO. When Harleys are out-leaning your design, you've got a problem.

Only Indians in our garage. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Nonsense on the algorithm. Purchasers will actively type in "Indian" (or whatever brand) when they want to research a bike to buy and they will see all the Indian content they want.

Not just KZfaq but they want to be part of the cult or culture! I question each one that reviews the Indians that same thing! If it’s so great put your money where your mouth is! I am on my third Indian! A Pursuit premium! Best motorcycle out there! Same to you! Put one in your garage!

Harley pays KZfaq to delete them.

Polaris*

It's called conformity. People buy the brand. Truth is, Harley-Davidson quality is not proportional to its price.

The truth is,there’s no Indian motorcycle company,it’s really Polaris company.I would have more respect if Polaris wasn’t trying to copy Harley 💯

The Natives of American people got clean names Native are not Indian people Indonesia is Indian people.. USA 🤣😂🤣