I agree.

Meaty... Hahaha. I received that in Joel McHale voice from The Soup

That was done by the factory blipper. Suzuki did a fantastic job developing that

@@TSTindustries that’s beautiful

Hahahahaha...yea I guess that is kinda accurate

Respectfully

@@LEXXELITEAUTODETAILING that is still going to take some months. Tail lights are generally a complicated thing to design and manufacture. This particular one is more intricate due to space constraints. Efforts to get to the goal continue but there are no shortcuts that i can take to make it any faster.

Not taking away from TFT, sorry but not sorry. Ebay has a nice kit for the 8S. TFT makes great stuff too.

Honestly I prefer the arrow although it's maybe slightly less smooth sounding on the shifts. In any case Arrow comes with a cat which should means it's legal for me.

Difference is that the Akra is not legal in a lot of countries

Akra vs Arrow should not make a difference in this regard. Neither one has a catalyst canister.

⁠@@TSTindustriesthan how is there a catalyst under my ordered arrow 😜

​@@rikrozendal1702 Neither are straight pipes on Harley but everyone uses them .

2WheelDynoworks have been working on tunes. So far with an Akra system and M4 system. Gains are 10-12 horsepower and amazingly enough, as much as 9 ft-lb. Fat power being made. And the tuning is just begun. Modifications to intake and velocity stacks is proving to work nicely. Might be a set of cams showing up later this year, who knows. The engine is liking the mods so far. While the RS660 makes more peak power, that's way up at the top of the revs, and everywhere else the 8S crushing it with torque. Also the RS660 is known to send rods through the sides of blocks, just ask the racing clubs with MotoAmerica. Suzuki will be the way to go in this class. The 8R coming this year should prove to be more of a track machine for the higher speed aero.

The upshifts were with the factory quickshifter, however, the downshifts were blipped manually using the throttle and clutch. The bike does come equipped with an autoblipper if you prefer to use that instead. -TST Rider

@@TSTindustries In an earlier comment from you (reacting to @bobbyz3843 you said it was the factory clipper?

Yes, we have been flashing this platform for a few months now. We have a listing on our website for the flash service. It is the 24th item from the top in this product category: tstindustries.com/suzuki-gsx-8s-2023/

@@TSTindustries Cool.... Will send after I get 620 miles on it and do a bone stock top speed run. Will also put an Akra on it. Thanks, Chris

Anyone that uses Woolich Racing software at their tuning shops should be able to flash this bike, just as any other Japanese bike.

If we get one supplied to us we may do another video.

Both of the exhausts we have tested at this point are full systems not slip on.

There is no possibility of using a slip on on this bike since the full exahaust system is completely on the underside of the bike, there is no pipe coming up to put on a slip on.

That resonator actually uses acoustics to amplify performance in the targeted RPM range so it is more than just a sound modifying device. Although you can get away with using this exhaust without a remap, if you want to maximize value for your money a remap will get you all the potential performance that is there once you upgrade the exhaust.

ECU flash would be the best way to go. Thanks!

@@wrecking_havoc586 just so happens we offer that on our website

Does TST ECU flash change the fan temperature. And does the flash only affect one of the modes on the motorcycle.

​@@TSTindustries but to make the bike run safe for the engine is a remap needed? Is it lean with the full akra or arrow without cat? Do you know if the arrow with cat run good with the stock map? Thanks :)

well the 790 isnt even the same engine type

@@hisride 800 cc-ish, twin, dohc. Even the airbox under the seat for a direct air feed to the intake. Very close.

KTM stuck with their firing interval from the big 75° Vtwin engines, and made the parallel a 285° firing interval (the same as the Vtwin). Small difference from 270° crank stuff on the market, but a difference all the same. By the way, just for reference, a Harley Davidson 45° Vtwin produces a 315° firing interval.

​@@exothermal.sprocketand my old Husqvarna Nuda 900R was also 315° 😢

@@bernardomotard Why the tears? It sounded very unique for a parallel twin.

Yes and no

Imo they both sound wicked with aftermarket exhaust, 270 crank makes wonders

Better than the mt07 that's for sure

Yes it's better than r7 but if you like the looks of the r7 more then that's better for you yk

Nah the r7 weighs less and has better suspension.

sadly you need a full exhaust system, so its gonna stay pretty expensive. lowest ive seen was 1200€ for the arrow works dark

I personally wouldn't run the bike without a tune after changing the exhaust. During our time on the dyno we recorded AFR under load with the new exhausts and prior to tuning. The results showed some areas in the rev range that under load, with just the right conditions, can lead to pre ignition or detonation. Neither is good. If you always baby the bike and do not load it up much, your fuel supply guarantees an appropriate antiknock factor always, you don't experience 95+ degree weather, then you should be fine with either....but who can keep all those variables in the safe zone?

@@TSTindustries Thank you for this good information, I will keep it in stock for now and decide later on what to do. I will follow you for more content on this bike. Thanks for the reply

@@TSTindustries is it safer for the engine if i order a exhaust system with cat? Or does it need to be flashed either way?

Flashes are not that expensive, people. As compared to an exhaust system, don't cheap out and avoid a flash that cost 1/4 the exhaust system or less.

On our website, TSTIndustries.com

It's a more solid feel but as long as you let off the throttle 100%, it should engage pretty easily.

@@TSTindustries that's what I do but it's still clunky even at high Rev.

Correct.

​@@TSTindustriesAwesome and thanks for the answer!

We would absolutely recommend getting an ECU flash or else you will not be reaping the benefits of the new exhaust.

@@TSTindustries of course, but if I want change exhaust by myself, and can I ride to dealership without having problems, and ask them do ECU flash?

@@TSTindustries and also I have question , I found on your website this integrated lights into tail, when it will be released?im waiting it so hard, and thank you for your videos 👍

Not this time. The hero of this story was a fella you typically don't see because he is the one shooting the video. In this shoot Marc-Anthony climbed around to the front of the lens and gave us some rips to capture the sound.

It is a little heavy but surprisingly, once you're rolling it's hard to notice. Brings a real planted feel to the bike!

I cant speak to whether or not it is required. When we installed this one and the Arrow, and ran them on our dyno, the mixture was only unsafe in several areas. I personally would definitely opt to tune when replacing the exhaust. This is why we build a tune for this bike and offer it on pur website.

Will you be uploading the video with your dyno runs and different ecu flashes? what are the gains you are expexting from new exhaust as well as with ecu flash?

We still need to shoot a couple sections and then edit, but that video will be making a debut at some point. For now our dats is presented in the flash tune product page within the 8S product category on pur site. Here is a link to the category, the flash tune is the 23rd product on the list tstindustries.com/suzuki-gsx-8s-2023/

Looks cool, a decent 5 hp more!

Every exhaust video on the planet, people asking if a flash is required. Comon. It's so much less expensive than the exhaust systems people pay for. The benefits are far greater than picking up some power.

Say it whenever you want. I do agree though.

Same firing interval, same engine architecture. It's 776cc and higher compression vs. 689cc. It's a little quicker overall, but not shockingly so. Much better suspension and chassis than the MT. The 8S ride quality and solidity feels more like the R7.

It is a 270 degree twin, similar to what Yamaha calls CP2. Yamaha coined the term Crossplane, which is used on the inline 4 engines built on the cp4 block. No other manufacturer uses the term to describe the firing order, but i have heard people commonly refer to 270 degree twins as crossplane. -BR

@@TSTindustries i see thanks for the data so its like the engine on the mt-07 then

The beauty of middleweight P-twins with a 270 crank. -Mark

That’s the beauty of this market, twins, triples, inline-4s, and V4s. Options for everyone!

Is this for real ?

So ... What U Recommend?