Really making me wait 2 days

No Yamaha didn’t copy ktm in the clutch department. They took their technology from their sport bikes I think the Yamaha guy said from the R1.. this guy has ripped on Yamaha for years when it was and has been a all around great handling bike.Most all magazines said it was the most reliable bike out of all manufacturers! Mosiman also last year said how he didn’t like Yamaha tuning abilities and it was a waste of time! It only takes a few seconds!😂 but yet on other bikes he’s willing to change mapping plugs which are not near as good nor have the wide capabilities of the Yamaha.. Also look if it was such a bad bike from before how come Malcom hasn’t raced in quite awhile gets on the bike and was up front a lot?! He just didn’t have good fitness. Then Plessinger got on it and was amazing to. Look how he went to ktm and he wasn’t near as consistent. 🤔 the brand this guy would push all the time.. then you have Ferrandis 1st year on the bike wins outdoor championship! Then you have Tomac! He said he loved the bike instantly. He wins supercross and outdoors. Apparently he don’t know a good bike when he rides one.. lol

Excellent video and explanation of the changes. Thanks Josh! Keep up the good work!

let's be honest, no matter how good a bike Yamaha, Honda or Kawasaki makes, good chance that Motocross Action Magazine is going to have a KTM / Husky / Gas-Gas as their shootout winner.

Badass looking bike. It seems really light and flickable

superb review, thank you!

Awesome breakdown. Stoked to learn more about this bike.

Wow awesome Yamaha 450 f 2023 really like nice thanks for bike test Motocross action magazine class👍😊🇬🇧

Beautiful, love the new look and the smart changes Yamaha has made....

Great video after loving MXA since I was 9(I'm 58 now)and loved the video test concept,very very good.

That thing is badass. I want one. Great review. I appreciate your honesty, knowledge, and expertise. I'm Yamaha for life. I've been wanting a hydraulic clutch like KTM/Husky for a long time. I'm stoked that they made it an upgrade. Good enough. Sold

Bike is killer but whoever designed the look of the front fender and number plate should be fired.

im happy they still are sticking with gas awesome looks like a great bike and the 2023 2 stroked are looking great!

The front number plate reminds me of the ttr bikes

In the coming months it will be interesting to see what this new model looks like after Eli Tomac's team make it "his" bike. Eli's 2022 Yamaha was significantly different from the stock 2022 Yamaha. I believe the same will hold true for Eli's 2023 Yamaha.

The background soundtrack slaps hard that’s why I keep rewatching the video so many times

I pick mine up tomorrow! Super stoked.

This bike may make me go blue… Great review Josh 👊🏻

Yamaha & KTM are unstoppable. Can't decide which one to get possibly next spring. Thanks MXA! -Ohio

I've owned Hondas for years, 250s and 450s. 1 KTM 450, and 1 yz450f. Yamaha is the best to me, hands down. The best part I liked was the SSSupention. Yamaha made me feel like I was riding the "Cadillac" of motocross bikes. I could go around the track 10x as long on the Yamaha compared to the KTM primarily because of Yahama OEM suspension choice. Also the quality suspension made the bike "feel" much lighter than the KTM even being 20lbsish heavier. I guess at 30yr old I'm creeping into the vet riders.

Yamaha has the best QC in the business, engine is rock solid and has been for years, unlike a KTM which has engine problems and always has, are also expensive to fix! I will be grabbing the 450fx version next year.

It looks almost exactly like a big pw50

After owning a new 2019, racing the 2020 yzf250 and 2021 yzf450, and watching some of the 2022 450 bottom ends fall apart... We were definitely wanting more change from Yamaha. Everything that Yamaha could have done better on, sought engineer driven improvement, looks like they did. Great job to the blue boys!

Why did I hear the word ktm so much in this video 😅

Based off this review ill be getting this, or the new Ktm / Husky. I like everything about the previous model Yamaha except it being wide and heavy. If this issue resolved completely and all else is good- I'm game!

HOLY COW . look fast . .

Is the front motor mount now two sandwiched thinner plates on each side instead of one thick plate? This would increase flex and might be the key to getting the 2022 to turn better. I would like to try it if anyone makes a set.

Can't wait to see how this bike works! Interesting that the previous version was panned as being wide, heavy, and with weird feeling ergos. But...it's won the last 3 AMA championships and the only WSX race it competed in and 2 of the 3 riders that won the #1 at MXON were on blue So in some ways I hope the new bike isn't TOO different lol. The old tank had a pretty good run I'd say.

Wow🤯 my dream 😍

I have that issue with the boot getting hooked to the plastic on the 2021

Include TM Racing bikes in your reviews please. Would love a 2023 125 shootout

That pewee looks nice

Nice work overall! But I am surprised you complained about the previous wifi app mapping system. 2023 may be better but Common Man! If some vet can’t handle the system then he doesn’t deserve to be on a YZ. He should buy a 350 KTM or something else. I’m 56 and have both YZ450 and 250.

I feel like they increased the intake valve size because they limited the airbox intake. Overall, this new bike seems very exciting....tempting me back to 4 strokes.

I think it's odd to hear the complain about the electric start. I can say that my dad and brother in-law both have KTM 350s and they regularly have issues getting their bikes to start. Several times when they're starting, the battery is practically dead, and in some cases, dies before the bike is started. My '18 YZ450 starts easily every single time.

So let’s just be real. First off thank you for these videos. I constantly watch and enjoy them. However since Efi all these bikes are practically the same with a few weight differences. Nobody can tell a difference with 5mm lower pegs lol

Looks good except for the muffler. Was hoping it could be a little bigger :)

😍

Can I use it for wood driving + mx or it’s only for motocross bike?

I really hope that it’s possible to put in the old front number plate and fender because that’s one of the only things I hate about the new bike. I haven’t ridden it to tell how I like it but i can’t imagine it’s not better than the 2005 and 2010 bikes I used to have. I wish I didn’t sell that 2010 because I didn’t absolutely need the money at the time but it did help me out. I’m undecided between the YZ and CRF but from what I hear about each bike its telling me the Yamaha would be better for me, I just love how the Honda looks and it would go well with my CR500. But the YZ450f would also go well paired with my YZ250 once rebuilt thanks to my moms bf deciding to jimmy rig it when I told him I would pay for it to be fixed correctly. Still my fault also for taking the bike out.

Yamaha still pioneering the way!

Eli Tomac's machine for next year

This is all I will say- bike refinement has been on a drip feed since EFI really. What’s the last REAL change we’ve seen since? Push button start is just a convenience. As are hydro clutches. But what erks me is why we have to wait 2-3 years for an ECU or motor manner change or a plastics change or ride height change. They drip feed us until we believe whatever they put out is great which is 100% false. I have enjoyed all my 4 strokes since 2003 but continue to ride and race a 2004 RM 250. I know it’s not new or flashy but it ALWaYS works and it above all super dependable. And not to mention it’s paid off for over 18 years. Sometimes techno crap gets in the way and then again it’s nice to chop down that tree with an old school axe!!

to bad you can't buy on . i have a small team in upstate New York and we switched to Yamaha a few a couple of years ago and now we are switching brands . the team 65cc 3 - 85cc 2 - 125cc 4-250f and 1 450f . we can't buy new bikes on our 125cc bikes it was 6 months before we could even get pistons , plastic or any engine parts it's a shame but when thing brake i need parts now not 5 months from now . I wish it was different but when you can't buy bike to get prepped for the next season we really lover all the bikes

Where are these bikes??? They were supposed to be here last month and this month, already half way through November! Any info will be appreciated

Meraviglia

That’s so funny how he says the yz is loud cause of the air box! I still have a couple of 2016’s yz450 and friends of mine have 21 22 and we can hop off them and ride my friends Kawasaki or Honda and don’t notice anything and same goes for them.

Oh thank goodness Suzuki will have their new V twin, electric start, hydraulic clutch 192lb 450r release this year.

Very nice beast. Grew up on Yamis. Upgrade after upgrade but still a cable clutch I see. How hard is it to run a hydraulic. Great to see they are listening but can still do more.

You'll like it when you ride at home. Pingree said it's great

Good Review! Incredibly terrible tic toc music... Why?

Dope sick af

Lmao that hydro clutch kit is def not tomac approved

And don’t Sidi boots have a tendency to snag on a lot of bikes anyway?

wow..grazi

MSRP?

Front fender back to the YZ 2006 and design by Ronnie Mac.

boots catching plastics is a no go, worst feeling

I don't understand how you can't get up to the front of the bike. I'm not a pro, just a question. Sometimes I feel too far forward, like my balls are on top of the tank fill cover, and the bars hit my knees in turns. Single track stuff though..

It looks pretty goofy. The front number plate reminds me of the Stark Varg and the look of the front end makes me think of the Suzuki Vstrom with its bird beak looking front fender. Not a fan

Thank God they got rid of that hideous front fender they've ran the last decade or so! Looks similar to the unique Fender they had back in the '90s that no one else aside from KTM ran

What track is that???

Who's the Test Rider? I can only Ride like that on Xbox 😁👍

Wild looking machine. 238lbs is basically the same weight as most 2 strokes. 1999 wants its number plate back

I think Japanese bikes are easier to use they are more power friendly . than the austrian bikes, and even they are heavier, I personally don't have any major problem with that. Also I have seen many broken ktms frames.... Unforgiven.

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The plastics on our 22 model look great, but very little scratch resistance

Love the way he says Yamaha listened to all the things they didn’t like….yeah because they didn’t listen to all the pro riders and race teams they have all around the world not to mention all the other testers around the world🙄🙄 Funnily enough USA MX testers aren’t the b all end all they think they are😂😂😂😂

He can't wait to get back and judge the bike against all his ktm favorites If euro bikes are so good why aren't they winning everything?

Why is the shift lever turned down so low? Was some squid riding it? I'm sure Josh would not have it like that.

I don’t really care for the hidden tank cap and the little seat piece plus the plastic above the gas cap looks weird

Too much on the new parts. Two thirds of the video are Josh stating stuff we can read about. What was the ride impression - "I had a lot of fun on this bike." Seriously bro, that's all you can say about it?! C'mon man. Thanks for answering the questions no one is asking.

Star racing? The conspirancy against the deegans at lorettas..this just proves it...the kid shoulda taken that bike just to prove they were runnin a pro engine.

The 2023 is better looking than last year's model, but the reverse cylinder has always looked odd to me. Plus it creates problems with the width, the airbox, etc. I understand the theory behind mass centralization--especially rotational mass--but I've never heard anyone claim it handles so much better than the traditional layout. Still seems gimmicky.

Why change the front fender? That thing’s hideous

I still ride a 2018 yz 450 and you got to know how to set it up, so you have to put a yamalink on the rear first to get rid of that stinkbug attitude then you have to raise the forks 7mm use race tech gold valves for the shock and forks use titanium motor mounts and run a 14/53 final drive and then you have a bike that will turn like a Suzuki with straight line stability and you can run around the track all day in 3rd gear. With. the negligible weight savings, I am afraid you now are going to see Yamahas breaking down like a KTM. They should have just went with a chromoly steel frame and cut probably 10 to 12 lbs instead of weakening the engine and tranny. Thats about the only thing I would say that's good about a KTM is the steel frame

My 22 450 dies on me too easily when lugging it

PW50 For big kids💯

Kaplan will still say a cr 500 is faster! Lol

Allot of mistakes where made in the past (incompetence?). I am sure that next year new things will change. DO IT RIGHT ALLREADY !

all new engine lol , funny how come it still has the same bore and stroke as MY 22 21 and so on and same compresion ratio........

am I the only one who thinks that all motocross brands are starting to look exactly the same, they almost have exactly the same shapes on the plastic, honda, ktm, husqvaran, gasgas, and now yamaha

You didnt like the 2022 450 and the previous 12 years? What are you smoking?

I value mxa testing over all other's but please MXA stop with the FKN music

Superbike

Front end looks ugly like 85 on a 450 lol

I’m gonna have to gripe about this version. Lost 5 pounds still no hydro clutch . What was it, 3 yrs ago where y’all said only serious bikes have electric start and hydro clutch but now it seems yamaha doesn’t want hydro. I get to spend another 400 to make it hydro? Why not just get the gas gas, ktm or husky. Change my mind!!

Yamaha says we’ve had 25yrs to design this new bike, motocross community says, haven’t we seen this bike at Walmart

It's pronounced kairo Georgia.

GUYS I WANT TO BUY A DIRT BIKE BUT THESE NO MONEY

Looks like a monkey did the welding🙉

Ots ugly,hate the front and back fenders

He is expided to explain man.

Crap music.

This bike will kick the shit out of the KTM and both of them know it.

Get a different presenter. The video is supposed to be about the improvements and the flaws, not about how it compares to a KTM. I had expectations for MXA on this but deeply disappointed

No you ride the bike.... this is dumb