What about Zulus who are in ANC did they tolerate that nosense
@user-mk6pi7kq7dАй бұрын
They also forget ukuthi abobani aba former ANC but bebengena tribalism even nabo bebe accommodate everyone in South Africa according to myself uyena lobaba one tribalism gwede mantashe not zulu people amazulu aphila nawo wonke umuntu mfethu as long une discipline nizozwana nawo but if awuna respect don't expect zulu people they will be able to respect you just forget eg mina langikhona right now i got friends of venda maybe 3 and sotho pedi so why's this tribalism kimi becouse i am the one of those people from KZN ngise gauteng but abantu engiphila nabo abako limpopo free state uyanya lobaba umadolo ka gogo wakhe
@pelagwele4059Ай бұрын
Gwede must learn out of their mistakes. MK is there to live. South Africans have voted for.MK . Forward MK forward . Don't argue be still and quiet. Respond by actions . God will be your provider and anchor in Jesus name Amen
I'm a Xhosa man from Cape Town I voted MK PARTY, combrades ofelweyo akabanjelwa zwi sitsho isintu, so mantashe is just bluffing msimyeke alile sizomthuthuzela
@user-wv2ti7ye1jАй бұрын
Yabonake cc lento ayihambi ngobuhlanga thanks mk it's for all south African
@user-mk6pi7kq7dАй бұрын
Oh yes big yes
@MichaelVumile-jb3lbАй бұрын
You voted for a KZN party
@luthandonontshakaza2071Ай бұрын
@@MichaelVumile-jb3lbthis is south Africa don't be tribalism you must grow up
I am from kzn, I voted for MKP because I got fed up with the anc empty promises which conveniently always come during such time (elections) and they would disappear after. Anc leadership think they are celebrities. 30 years of failed governance. So does making such a decision make me a triabalist? Gwede Mantashe is blowing air, he is talking rubbish.
@cherylvandermeulen6897Ай бұрын
So you support another asshole who is just as bad as the ANC 😂😂😂😂
@SolomonNkosi-nx3wwАй бұрын
In that 30yrs you mentioned -Zuma was part of it
@amandamdambamdambaАй бұрын
Mk taught anc a good lesson. They thought everything is about them.
@thandokuhlemngomezulu4291Ай бұрын
This is the same guy who called dumb like our parents and ancestors at the AGM last year when a section of Zulu's turned against Zuma from passing a vote of no confidence on Cyril Ramaphosa last year but they came back with bags full of money at our expense.
@thabomkhize422Ай бұрын
Signs of desperation from Gwede to stoop so low to spread this narrative
@colinvanderross5825Ай бұрын
He Is one desperate man and will stay ignorant and a mr knows it all but knows NOTHING and just goes with the flow same as Fikilelu whatever his name is.
@majestic4124Ай бұрын
If KZN is Zulu tribalistic what is white Capetown ? and venda Limpopo?
@michaelmcgrath3967Ай бұрын
White Cape Town? lol… I better tell my wife she has to move out..
@samuelmofokeng8256Ай бұрын
I thought we fought for non sexist, non racial, non tribalism. It's unfortunate that signs of these still manifests after 30 years of democracy.
@karelgericke9172Ай бұрын
Why are you bringing in the whites your DROL.its between mk and anc, leave the whites in cape town alone your idiot.
@seetsamolapo5600Ай бұрын
@@samuelmofokeng8256not signs. SA politics run deeply based on race, tribe and sexism
@majestic4124Ай бұрын
@@michaelmcgrath3967 l live in joburg most white people selling their houses are moving to cape, lm not the one who said " tribalism " 🙇
@nokweyisangqungwana3103Ай бұрын
The reason we now in this country have iMK as a party. Its due to the fact that the dynamic ANC found itself with mediocre leadership, which resulted with the likes of Gwede Mantashe. I still wonder how did we end up here?
@luckymakhaza8970Ай бұрын
They want to start something else for them it's very simple they must just accept MK is here alive forever to full feel the need of the power people of this Country like it or not knew born with five months can run the long race which is amazing ❤❤❤❤❤
@mohlomphehiАй бұрын
Gwede must be careful with the tribalism issue, some of us were born during iskhathi so dlame and have no intention of reliving the horrors of the past.
@Phumlani_VicoАй бұрын
That madala Gwede must shut up and accept the defeat. In KZN we have a large population of Indians and colored community. Heal Mantashe heal old man
@josephmulenga2017Ай бұрын
The only thing that we should do as Mk party is to forgive the old man he's a failure cause he is the one how is destroying anc.
@user-mg3bq2zm4iАй бұрын
I'm proud of Zuma because he is proud of his roots what about him he has forgotten about Xhosas and their roots in the Eastern Cape . Zuma knows every corner of KZN bt him he knows Cala only
@margaretlesolesoАй бұрын
Show some little in 😱
@user-mk6pi7kq7dАй бұрын
😂😂
@thulandtheworld5380Ай бұрын
There are proud KZN White people who voted for MK party. So Gwede and his party must do self introspection and leave us alone.
@user-wv2ti7ye1jАй бұрын
Ukhulume kabi lobaba naye uyaz kuth ayikho lento kade eyisho
@user-mk6pi7kq7dАй бұрын
Yes big word
@JohannesMotloungАй бұрын
AwunaNqondo Mantashe inkulumo nempendulu oyikhulumaÿo udala ukuluma into encolile uma ufaka uBuzwe no no ngangithi ubaba ohloniphekayo ayifani nawe .....uBaba onjengawe ...hlonipha abantu
I'm from Mbombela Nelspruit, voted for MK, cause i saw what Msholozi has done for people of South Africa, the problem with people of South Africa we don't do research, we listen from peoples lies, MSHOLOZI has done a lot lot of things.
@user-wv2ti7ye1jАй бұрын
Mk it's for all ❤❤❤❤
@marktunstall4577Ай бұрын
You are blind and only think with your emotions.
@WokeDetectionАй бұрын
What has Zuma done for you
@AnnaMekoaАй бұрын
What did Zuma do
@KgosiMafoko-zn2rxАй бұрын
This is disrepect what Gwede articulated. Ppl vote for ANC cause is blacks.what do call that racism.White never complains.Gwede and Mbalula put ANC in this mess.rude and careless
@JohannesMotloungАй бұрын
Mukelani anisebenzanga kahle inihlulile i Mk...kabuhlungu nihlulwa i qembu elina 5.month niyakhala inihloniphi abantu futhi ani oni abantu ukuthi benze into ethandwa yini noma nibheda sibekezele sizwile.. yini ...Dlalalani ngabantu kusele kancane kuphele nge anc ..Viva..Mk..Viva..Msholozi waBantu
@EricButhelezi-qi4gwАй бұрын
Kuphelil ngalabo manj ayikh into abazozenzel yon njengob bebenza sekumel bakhulumisan nabelinye iqemb um benza izint izinqa zihlezi obala manj azovel amahlazo
@VeeatlargeАй бұрын
The ANC Stronghold in Eastern Cape must be default tribalism.
@MichaelVumile-jb3lbАй бұрын
Some people in KZN only vote ANC if the leader of the ANC is Zulu or Xhosa , they hate CR.
@MichaelVumile-jb3lbАй бұрын
they voted for Zuma two terms in EC and some people in KZN hate CR now and ditch the ANC they will rip what they sow corruption will rise Guptas will be oprating in KZN.
@user-iu4yg1xr6zАй бұрын
@@MichaelVumile-jb3lb don't forget to mention most people in KZN voted for CR for two terms and he is Venda. Why aren't you mentioning that?... Selective way of thinking.
@reginaldgeorge3291Ай бұрын
We in kwa zulu are zulu 🇿🇦 and we tired 😫 😩 of corruption 😎 and poverty💔😪😢
@walker9276Ай бұрын
right...and yall chose the most corrupt of the lot 2 do what again?
@mikeStinson-gg2wlАй бұрын
And you chose the man responsible for state capture 😢😢
@lesegomazibuko3705Ай бұрын
Please explain what is state capture?? So we can start a constructive engagement....@@mikeStinson-gg2wl
@givenandile8337Ай бұрын
@@mikeStinson-gg2wlwhy are u anger..are you not get tired for ANC looting?
@mikeStinson-gg2wlАй бұрын
@@givenandile8337 I am but we should respect the law and constitution of s.a when doing that and constitution and not undermine the law
@NkosinathiShongwe-yu3lcАй бұрын
Gwede mantashe you are killing the anc stop talkig nonsense about mk
@user-wv2ti7ye1jАй бұрын
True
@user-mk6pi7kq7dАй бұрын
Oh yes big yes
@user-kq1so6xb4dАй бұрын
Mantashe I think Eastern Cape is going to be the last time voting for ANC,rather being a tribalism,niyaxoka qha anenzi niks for abantu kuxoka nje qha
@mosekintsime1097Ай бұрын
I voted too, MK will bring significant changes .. I mean look at Zuma President Regin.... We never struggled like we are today. Honestly.
@muhammadabdulkadir7696Ай бұрын
I am not Zulu and this accusations of tribalism is a low blow by a sore loser. MK will show u how to look after family and friends . Finally we standing up and the ANC is angry... ANC is a right party with the wrong leadership. Viva MK😎👍👆
@SonOfTheSoil834Ай бұрын
ANC should accept that Ramadollar carried out the mandate from his Stellenbosch funders to kill ANC with a hope will fall into the hands of racists DA and he has done that with merits .unfortunately Zuma have antagonist that with excellency giving the people an alternative party
@syabongsmfeka6720Ай бұрын
well said by the MK guy.
@sibongileviolet887Ай бұрын
I was born n broght in GP, m not Zulu bt Nguni n i voted for MK💚🖤udakiwe uGwede
@khulekanisothafashe7932Ай бұрын
Please forgive the old man, it's part of the depression he ws going thru at dat moment
@user-wv2ti7ye1jАй бұрын
Kwashelela umlimu
@scelosithole4164Ай бұрын
Zuma is a heavyweight championship
@user-mg3bq2zm4iАй бұрын
This time when everything is done they stop this nonsense of busy taking each other to the court instead of service delivery wasting money
@user-cv4ie7ji2hАй бұрын
Gwede start trouble where there's no trouble.
@diatilenthoba8262Ай бұрын
Truth is bitter...the hatred Zuma n zulus have on Ramaphosa is disgusting n the poor man doesn't retaliate at all.
@noobjections4073Ай бұрын
@diatilenthoba8262 you won't handle that smoke you wishing for.. focus on who you voted for instead
@philisiwemkhwanazi-xw7vuАй бұрын
Engabe uzoyimela na?
@user-he9fv6pn5oАй бұрын
We fed up with ANc,,,😂😂😂
@sifisodmagagula8699Ай бұрын
Well said my brother 🎉infact who is Gwede...
@curiousk4083Ай бұрын
Gwede must be charged for this statement
@HORSESHOE777ableАй бұрын
Be careful of the comrades. They are not what they pretend to be.....
@seamus9750Ай бұрын
We are all guilty of tribalism to some extent
@jacklenge531Ай бұрын
Yes correct
@VictorShongwe-eh3scАй бұрын
No need to be apologetic about your identity.
@thobilanadifa2141Ай бұрын
I don't see Fikile mbalula 😂😂😂😅, why he don't talk bcs he insult mk that man, now the truth is out ❤❤❤, mk for life
@user-hv5uq8ji3oАй бұрын
Well said bhuti and your calmness and respect shows ukuthi you are well raised which is rare for a politician this day continue to spread love
@avuyilemayekiso2254Ай бұрын
Am xhosa from the eastern cape i votaed MK not because of zulus but because of what zuma stands for
@zukicele9818Ай бұрын
Zuma the real man Sent by God for South Africa 🌍 and
@margaretlesolesoАй бұрын
In your dreams, God doesn't fo politics 🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️🤸🤸♂️💋🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️
@mphelorodney6057Ай бұрын
He was sent by devil
@pule89fulАй бұрын
Great response...
@victorndlela8208Ай бұрын
Perfect said my brother 🙌
@dumisanimchunu600Ай бұрын
I like ur approach respond my brother, even ur personality it's show the respect, abasifundise yona emakhaya, big up guys 👏🙌🙏
@molokomack332Ай бұрын
But why are people sensitive to being tribalists? I think being a tribalist is a choice and not a sin. Although narrow focused, it is a choice. I say narrow focused with respect and not in a demeaning manner. That is because one focus mainly on their tribe and other tribes come after. Now the ANC focuses broadly to all who live in the country. Individuals may act otherwise, but the constitution of the ANC includes all tribes and races. The focus on the blacks at the moment is in order to bring those who were oppressed by apartheid to a similar level to those who were advantaged by it.
@ayandazulu8014Ай бұрын
Siboniso Duma & Mtolo became too big headed at a wrong time people are not stupid stop shifting the blame wena Mpondo lakwa Mantashe
@kenm8797Ай бұрын
Lazy thinking indeed...same can be said to VhaVenda in Limpopo towards ANC of Ramaphosa or to EFF towards Julius in Limpopo and same can be said to whites to DA in Western Cape or coloured to PA in Western Cape
@robertnekuvule9515Ай бұрын
That's rubbish because limpopo supported ANC before Ramaphosa
@siphosakhemajola9136Ай бұрын
Ramaphosa once said the same thing and maybe it's the type of politics they discuss at Luthuli house
@user-bf5ln6cw4kАй бұрын
Gwede has a problem because ANC is winning in Eastern Cape where Mandela and Mbeki comes from but they did not call it tribalism
@thobamngadi5254Ай бұрын
Next election Zulu must not give a single vote to Anc
@tumelojasonmngadi7893Ай бұрын
Exactly ❤
@sureshparus9638Ай бұрын
Am not worried abt tribalism....we want a good n honest leaders.....
@user-em4em1ux9dАй бұрын
If ANC is defeated in kzn, it calls it tribalism, it should accept defeat in kzn
@sazinisibiya9603Ай бұрын
We love msholozi from Bushbackridge
@zolilenicolasbokolo7264Ай бұрын
An insult is that calling an ANC as Ramaphosa ANC
@nozymabilu6527Ай бұрын
Old man is wounded to be below 50% sorry Mr Gwede next time sir From limpopo province
@SboZimu-ue6xfАй бұрын
People forgot that our Zulu grandparents started this ANC.
@everistobakasa6468Ай бұрын
It's very true
@sundayvilakazi194Ай бұрын
I undesrtand his position, his heart is sore to have such a bad legacy of having ANC dying in their hands, woe unto them because ANC has such rich history, such bravery by our slain comrades and to have all of that in ur name must be painfull. how can u have a SG like Fikile Mbalula with a diahorea in his mouth...!!
@DUMISANIMTSHIPULAАй бұрын
ANC got more than 500k votes in KZN, were those voters not zulus
@user-fb5vj7ko1lАй бұрын
Usangene lo😂
@kwenamatlala5276Ай бұрын
Where is Ramaphosa guys
@sthembisomthembu395Ай бұрын
Somewhere crying
@gugumbonambi9470Ай бұрын
Ucashe kumatrass
@SidumoNgetuАй бұрын
He's in his bedroom with a drip and oxygen big tank😂
@diatilenthoba8262Ай бұрын
He is going to address the nation today but i don't remember the time,he will be there at the counting venue before the final results are being announced.
@user-ww5qw8jd3bАй бұрын
Negotiating for coalition
@user-cn4jq8jk9eАй бұрын
Mr Gwede can pls admit u defeated😊
@user-sf8hu2oo7eАй бұрын
This 1 he is always under influence
@leutenentmashaba3585Ай бұрын
It will cost ANC more votes with those toxic behaviors,A we now tribal when chose a party that we believe in?
@zolilenicolasbokolo7264Ай бұрын
Mr Ramaphosa never called the ANC ZUMA ANC where does Mr Zuma get the guards to call ANC Ramaphosa ANC
@nhlanhladube3093Ай бұрын
True true indeed
@mantombimkhwebane335Ай бұрын
Zuma is a heavy weight in politics
@MichaelVumile-jb3lbАй бұрын
There was umZulu wakithi influence okusalayo. Tribal card is at play in MKP just like IFP. MKP has numbers in only in KZN.
@oyamapapu7219Ай бұрын
If the idea of tribalism is an accusation, and that MK is a national party for everyone, is it a coincidence its majority votes should emerge where zulu people are concentrated - KZN and to some extent Gauteng? This is purely denialism of the worst kind
@siyabongamlaba8979Ай бұрын
How come Ramaphosa has majority votes in Limpopo(home province) Vendas and not called tribalist
@oyamapapu7219Ай бұрын
@@siyabongamlaba8979 historically provinces like Eastern Cape, Limpopo, Free State, North West have always voted for the ANC in huge numbers even prior Ramaphosa (do research). Mostly their commitment to the party is because of having leaders who liberated black people from apartheid. What you are suggesting is not true.
@nhlanhlamahlangu2895Ай бұрын
@@oyamapapu7219You misunderstood the comment. The ? Is how come Ramaphosa is Venda and he won the home province and yet not labelled tribalist?
@noziphonolwazi385Ай бұрын
It's so painful when clever blacks speak about blacks interest along the lines of tribalism and forget white minority which vote for white objectives and existance. I wonder when will we love ourselves and be unapologetic 😂about it. For being Zulu loyalist does not make me less of a knowledgeable person. Lastly Zulus are not only just in South Africa but they are a majority tribe and Langa libalele, mxenge, and many chiefs and Soul were Zulus and participated in where this liberation movement is. The issue here is are black getting back land, sharing of wealth like in Botswana, free education, safety like white suburbs and future that provide certainty blacks stop waisting time unite for for black people agenda and reject delays by ANC mentality
@oyamapapu7219Ай бұрын
@@nhlanhlamahlangu2895By your logic: how come Ramaphosa (a venda) won a Sesotho speaking province (Free State), how come Ramaphosa won a (Xhosa speaking province (Eastern Cape), how come Ramaphosa won a Setswana speaking province (North West). What you are suggesting is too reductionistic and simple of a complex situation. You have not taken several factors that influenced all this. Ramaphosa was able to win Limpopo not because of tribalism but because of pre-existing commitment to the ANC hence he won the other provinces. If his winning was about tribalism, he would have only won "Limpopo", but he was able to win in non-Venda provinces, how do you explain that? Zuma only wins in Zulu provinces only but not in none Zulu places; this is tribalism
@zukicele9818Ай бұрын
Mantashe was bad drunk shame
@kapamajola6695Ай бұрын
Tribalism is not an issue here, the problem is 30 years of empty promises , corruption and lack of service delivery. That when l say" Molo" and other replies "Sawubona" doesn't bring about tribalism. It is beautiful language of the Nguni people period.
@user-we3yu7pr9pАй бұрын
That's a typical British script. We faced the same accusation from Mugabe- Thatcher alliance against Zapu/Zipra liberation contribution. In short everyone has the brains and the other has the tribe. That's a low for ANC leadership.
@sabelojaxa7688Ай бұрын
Let us see the Leadership otherwise the fact remains...
@mtetelelimrwetyana2002Ай бұрын
They were busy with Hamas with EFF, now dividing the nation with tribalism, Mayibuye
Gwede himself is a tribalist. He did the same to Tsonga speaking people, just not long ago. They’ve always believed the ANC belongs to the Eastern Cape. The divide we seeing is quite unfortunate for black Africans in this country. The enemy is happy.
@zulu8451Ай бұрын
KWAXHOSA ANC 70% WHEN YOU KNOW YOU KNOW.
@user-zt4ow2os7uАй бұрын
Anc not from EC IF YOU KNOW U KNOW
@zulu8451Ай бұрын
@@user-zt4ow2os7u who said anything about it being from EC?
@ayandazulu8014Ай бұрын
Mantashe is stupid when Msholozi was ANC president KZN was voting for the ANC why they didn’t call kzn tribalism lidakiwe lelimpondo
@Seshman1981Ай бұрын
Its very childish to reason that MK is a tribalist party, if it was only voted in KzN i would agree to that but it has been voted even nationally, i am South Sotho from the Free State and voted for MK, now does it mean when ANc was voting for President Zuma were tribalist 🤔
@lawrencemoshebi4826Ай бұрын
The truth hurts
@clintongovender9053Ай бұрын
My man, I’m no Zulu man. I voted for MKP because I know what JZ did for Kzn when in power and I am entrusting in him once again to see Kzn through all the shit anc has run the region through
@jacklenge531Ай бұрын
Where is mbalula the tik tok man
@ayandazulu8014Ай бұрын
Lelo Mpondo
@ZamileDlamini-jg8dtАй бұрын
Blood is thicker than water ngekesizishintshe ubuzwebethu asiwobamabululu
@meridahmwase648Ай бұрын
ANC must go into coalition with the DA and leave the school children fights
@siyabongamlaba8979Ай бұрын
John will become president as predicted
@ntombisithole8684Ай бұрын
You are talking like a senseless child without deep knowledge of what is occurring in South Africa 🤷♀️😳
@nomagcisacawe3297Ай бұрын
@@siyabongamlaba8979Why not, John is a SOUTH AFRICAN.
@SolomonNkosi-nx3wwАй бұрын
KAHLA-KAHLE iMK is in fact, ANC RE-ENGINEERED.
@CynthiaNcwane-ym3yiАй бұрын
Stop blaming each other. U Sile lotata. He is a hipocrate he knows what's happening in this country that is why kukhona u Mkhonto party.
@nicholasgigaba2779Ай бұрын
Zulus are Tribalist they wont see anything wrong done by the King and Musholozii period 😊
@affiliatesssw6940Ай бұрын
I think Mr Mantashe was reckless and imbecilic in his utterances.....as a Xhosa man he is lazy in terms of thinking....
@peterbrigden2124Ай бұрын
Gwede is still drunk with power and its all going away 😢😢😢
@bonganilejoane358Ай бұрын
They try by all means to refute Gwede but they are gibberishing from start to finish.
@ZodwaMfuphi-bf3sgАй бұрын
Bitter old man and he is so arrogant like Anc
@TimzaDuma-qk5fkАй бұрын
Wena Khehla lakwaMantashe sduzukane nomquntsula womkha ogcwele amandla ethu neba imali ze Tax yethu awusuthi awubongi sikondla nge tax yethu siphukuphuku emampondweni lapha ngakini emafamu kudliwa iKaka kuphefumula yonwa
@NELLYNTULI-dr9roАй бұрын
Dis old Man called Gwede Mantashe z bitter shame He must accept being defeated by MK when Zulu Xhosa ppl vote for Anc its okay when Zulu ppl vote for MK because they're tired of corruption of Anc its so called tribalism yey Madala leave Zulus alone ghaaa
@ferdieortman6614Ай бұрын
Amazulu kzn strong hold on the verge 😝
@BuyelwaNkompelaАй бұрын
Uyayahlsnya u Mantashe myekeni akayazi into ayithethayo
@user-hv5uq8ji3oАй бұрын
Comrade Hlamulo must calm himself down his excitement thou warranted must not resemble that of the anc or eff
@MatomeDrivingAcademyАй бұрын
ANC and EFF did not lose and MK did not win but Africans Lost, Isaseyinde lendlela for Africans..