2024 Honda CBR650R and CB650R (EClutch) Review

2024 Honda CBR650R and CB650R (EClutch) Review - how does it work?

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Honda's CBR650R and CB650R have both been updated for 2024 with a fresh look, a light dusting of new bits and, most curiously of all, an optional new system called E-Clutch. An innovative blend of manual gearbox and automatic clutch, it’s a completely different setup to Honda’s love-it-or-hate-it DCT. So, does E-Clutch successfully bridge the gap between auto and manual worlds?
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - What's this video about?
01:25 - How does eClutch work?
04:25 - Pricing
05:40 - eClutch verdict
08:03 - CB650R updates
12:18 - Chassis, suspension, brakes and tyres
13:15 - Weight
13:45 - CBR650R updates
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@bennettsbikesocial 2 ай бұрын

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@davidl9230 2 ай бұрын

this is what i like in an extra feature, the eclutch adds a feature without forcing you to have to use it. so many new features replace how things have worked for years, like the DCT. i see this being useful for those who have weaker hands, well done honda!

@demonnick666 2 ай бұрын

Perhaps you should catch the bus if your hands are that weak.

@user-si7fj5rh5u 2 ай бұрын

Slip and assist clutches are feather light these days.

@TheCaretaker555 2 ай бұрын

It's not always because of weaker hands lol my bro went DCT because of not being arsed to gear changing to and from work and the sheer ease on touring what with cruise control etc

@davidl9230 2 ай бұрын

@@TheCaretaker555 of course, i'm probably more concious of it because of my uncle who i ride with (he's 70). He has arthritis in his left hand from an injury. he's stubbon enough to push through the pain but would clearly benefit from something like this because he doesn't want a DCT lol

@drippingout6154 Ай бұрын

@@demonnick666 moped : 👀

@AnthonioChen Ай бұрын

Unlike some riders keep emphasizing how skillful people should be to ride properly, I really appreciate manufactures like Honda introducing more technologies to make riding more friendly and expand rider population. Operating clutch lever is not necessarily the fun of riding.

@vincewilliamshortelano9404 Ай бұрын

Ikr?, I'm new to riding, and I ride a burgman 125, and I hate the way "real riders" talk smack to my scooter, and how it's not a "real bike".

@Neketre Ай бұрын

@@vincewilliamshortelano9404 I'm pretty sure that burgman will leave most of them in the dust on a back road. Any idiot can whack the throttle open.

@jeremyclarkson-69 Ай бұрын

It is actually the fun of riding for some people im not against e-clutches but they sure as hell shouldn't make it a standard,only a option.

@AnthonioChen Ай бұрын

@@jeremyclarkson-69 Not sure which market/country you’re in. Our dealership sells both E-clutch and normal version. And e-clutch can be switched off anyway.

@jeremyclarkson-69 Ай бұрын

@@AnthonioChen I commented this before watching the full video and feel asleep before deleting this comment.

@plotonapolonich5513 2 ай бұрын

Finally, a detailed review of the E-clutch in English! Been waiting for this one. Thx!

@unfinished_sentenc000 Ай бұрын

same :)

@stevietrucker4631 2 ай бұрын

This is a fantastic invention, well done Honda 👏

@statikinetik Ай бұрын

Thank you Bennetts for this superb review of the new Honda CBR650R and CB650R. By far the best informed for teaching about the eClutch. I am upgrading to the CBR650R this week and have been looking for good videos explaining the eClutch in every detail, and now I found it. Confirmed Bennetts customer here!

@danneoro Ай бұрын

Best and most honest review I've seen so far and I'm looking at CB650R for almost 6 months now. I'm sold on it, thank you mate !

@RobertHiggins-gv5jc 21 күн бұрын

I already did a review on this and I'm back again I finished the video and I can truly say that you are one of the best I've come across....you have a lot of talent for this and I just had to come back and say this after finishing the video..... five stars...and for me to give that you truly have earned it....thank you so much for your time that you have put into this...also when and it will happen that a manufacturer gets hold of your content you are going to blow up bigger than most.... good luck five 🌟

@atem8101 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining I finally understand what it does! Seems like a cool feature.

@chadridsdale9970 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the very descriptive review. Very helpful. The best review Ive watched. Martin you're awesome.

@somatyk 2 ай бұрын

Mister Fitz-Gibbons is fast becoming my favourite reviewer. Affable. Good knowledge. Clear explanations and details things other reviewers don't come close to covering. Top notch. Not sold on the clutch, though. I'm extremely distrustful of anything using solenoids. Solenoid goes. New solenoid? Nope. New eclutch. The whole thing.

@naustin09 2 ай бұрын

100%, except Simon would be a tie. The two of them are a great pair!

@somatyk 2 ай бұрын

@@naustin09 Yeah, very true

@ianwarren8316 Ай бұрын

The attention to the details especially on a fairly technical launch like this is where Martin excels!! Thanks 🙏

@magpiemale 2 ай бұрын

Love the video presentation nice chap very informative and without to much jargon.

@emersongo9147 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your detailed review of both bikes you make it very interesting when it comes to explaining what the new e- clutch do , the cosyt weights and the whole shebang .Honda once again created a new stuff for riders to enjoy and definitely gives the riders choices when riding👍👍, more power to your show Sir and ride safe always, looking forward to your next upload😅

@DCHRAY12 2 ай бұрын

I'd say the E-clutch is probably the best piece of tech that has come out of Honda and I'm so excited to put my booking in at the end of the month! Great video!

@imadeeplyspanishman 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic insightful review Mufga I have my test ride booked for May 2 already, I tested the regular clutch model CBR650R a month or so ago along with a GSX8R and got on really well with the Honda so I’ve been waiting for the e clutch to arrive, big thumbs up to Bridge motorcycles help and test rides. 👏👏👍

@mwng5186 2 ай бұрын

Nice review mate, well done. Call me old fashioned but rev matching going down the box is a wonderful part of finessing the bike....I for one love as much interaction as possible on a 'proper' bike I have an auto forza300 which I thoroughly enjoy but my others, well...i love as much involvement as possible.

@naustin09 2 ай бұрын

It’s Martin on video and not just a disembodied podcast voice. Woot woot!

@FAINING Ай бұрын

Finally you can deliver Noodles with a CBR650R with one hand as you would do with a Super Cub. The day that every one was waiting for.

@carlosvejar3938 2 ай бұрын

Excellent review thank you

@esp_explorer 2 ай бұрын

Really good review. Fascinating new technology.

@rafikshahnazarian7632 2 ай бұрын

Great review: And Great information 👍👍

@reverendhoover 2 ай бұрын

Interesting review Mufga, I like how open-minded you are to new technology. I've got a DCT NT1100 and I'll see if I can get a test ride on one of these when my bike goes in for a service this year.

@vedanshdarmwal. 2 ай бұрын

Great video 👍

@stuart150 2 ай бұрын

Having spent 25 years converting clutches to right hand operation, I'm really interested trying this....thanks Mufga!

@LilBudaa Ай бұрын

Love the video! Thank you for the clear and informative presentation. I think this system would be perfect for Honda's 500cc range. Great invention, good job Honda.

@stoatsngroatsuk5012 2 ай бұрын

Nice review! Puts the CB650 R on my shopping list 😀

@jonparr1148 2 ай бұрын

I think this is a great Honda 'engineered' product and at launch a solution for a bike which fits a segment where as an inline 4 it is pretty unique. Opening up an up and down auto style change to engines/gearboxes without that option today, plus removing the need to even touch the clutch lever will give a group of riders (commuters, new bikers and those who find an all day ride with a clutch to operate physically difficult) the opportunity to enjoy biking. Be super to see it grow through the Honda range as an alternative to their quick shifter, I'd like to try it on Hornet 750 and possibly Hornet 1000 ?

@ianwarren8316 Ай бұрын

My previous bike was a nearly new 21 CBR650R (first big bike). I quickly bought the Honda Quick Shifter and fitted it myself, a fairly easy job, If buying a new one now I would definitely go for the e-clutch version. Having moved onto a bike with a good quickshifter/blipper for up/down shifts (Ducati Panigale V2,) I would have appreciated that on the Honda and at £100 with little impact on running costs or normal functionality, I can’t see Honda supplying many without the e-clutch! My guess is also that the £100 is barely covering the costs on this! Well done Honda!

@Grahamvfr 2 ай бұрын

Cheers N🥳Martin love the e clutch, I had a saab 900 turbo sensonic in the 90s, same idea, full manual box, but auto clutch ( no clutch pedal unlike the Honda). Unfortunately not popular, but i liked it.

@bikersquest 2 ай бұрын

I suspect the £100 is an introductory offer, I imagine this system is perfect for city commuters hopefully they add it to their 500cc range.

@TagYoureItRO 2 ай бұрын

in europe it's 500e

@fluxx7217 Ай бұрын

I bet you everything that this will be available in every honda model

@ZeroXSEED Ай бұрын

I hope they can get as low as 150cc model The centrifugal semi-auto can only withstand 12 kilowatt (~15 hp) which eliminates anything above 125cc bike.

@andrewlucas6214 2 ай бұрын

Brilliant overview of the bikes and the system. The one topic that never seems to be mentioned is clutch less shifting. It’s a skill I picked up years ago and once mastered, is just as good os a quick shifter. When quick shifters came along, I was initially excited but, now, I’m not sure I would choose one over full manual. E clutch looks like amazing tech but, adds to the potential of crippling service and maintained e costs after warranty has expired.

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

Clutchless shifting is faster than conventional shifts, for sure. But quickshifters are faster than clutchless shifts because you keep the throttle open - I timed & tested this with an R1 and a dyno on Bike magazine in 2010. And Honda says E-Clutch shifts 20% faster than a quickshifter. As for "crippling service and maintenance costs", Honda's engineers told me the only difference is a little extra calibration work when it comes time to replace the whole clutch. Other than that, nowt.

@toorak8565 2 ай бұрын

Can wait to get the new cbr with eclutch sounds awesome for town heavy traffic

@PhilbyFavourites 2 ай бұрын

I’ve had a DCT gearbox car for the last four and half years, it’s phenomenal. It’s never gone wrong, it works on inclines etc and has three modes from yawn, to sprightly, to oh my god. I would love BMW to bring out DCT on my GS, purely because the quick shifter isn’t the sharpest tool in the box. As for e-clutch, you still have to clonk the gear lever with your toe. After 47 years I’m happy to move on

@FairladyS130 2 ай бұрын

BMW cars no longer have DCT, they have changed to a conventional but finessed auto.

@mggarcia19 2 ай бұрын

How to wheelie on DCT?

@PhilbyFavourites 2 ай бұрын

@@mggarcia19I learnt over 45 years ago that wheelies never impressed women, much as they weren’t impressed by handbrake turns in a Capri. On the positive side the unintentional wheelie I pulled on my FS-1E in 1975 (throttle stuck open) just missed the side of the bus as I dropped it on its side at the T junction. You can keep your wheelies for the chavs on the pit bikes - other motorcyclists are available and this does not constitute the view of the management

@PhilbyFavourites 2 ай бұрын

@@FairladyS130but the 3 Series still only comes with indicators as an optional extra and usually never used by the owners……

@rafaelcordoba13 2 ай бұрын

Honda has a patent on DCT for motorcycles. That’s why no other company can do automatic motorcycles 🤷‍♂️

@hiteshgujarathi4636 Ай бұрын

This has to be best innovation we have in a while in two wheeler segment. I would really love to buy one of this even though I never owned or ride any sports bike. Not above 160cc atleast. Must appreciate Honda for making things easy for riders like me who can still buy big bike without worrying about all of this technical stuff and just up and down the gear without any tension 😅.

@MansfieldPestControl 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic, i've been gagging to see something like this prior to jumping in to buy 1. Currently i'm on a 2019 CB650 Neo with a Recluse clutch, as i only have my Left arm.....

@903lew 2 ай бұрын

Oh I’d have loved to have that the other day as my hand was cramping up in stop/go traffic. Well done Honda for continuing to innovate, I’d much rather have this over a QS or DCT.

@PsyKotyK 2 ай бұрын

⁷⁷7

@chrislayley4838 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Mufga 👍🏼

@noturbiz4670 2 ай бұрын

Definitely sold on the CB650R it has the tech, the look and the performance. Dealer told me I need to wait till the end of the year though :/

@bennettsbikesocial 2 ай бұрын

Where are you based? UK dealers have started to receive them, so says Honda's PR team this morning.

@Foxy-rj8yw 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m in us and would buy one right away but are they coming to the us?

@noturbiz4670 2 ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial Not based in the UK.. that's great maybe it will not take that long then..

@thehowlingterror 2 ай бұрын

Cheers for that 👍

@slipperyweezel Ай бұрын

That would be quite nice at the lights when you cant find neutral so normally have to sit there the whole time pulling the clutch lever in.

@Al_Cidni Ай бұрын

I have a bike with loads of electronics and a bike that has the bare necessity, abs, traction control. I enjoy both. One lets me enjoy more on the ride, the other lets me enjoy the drive.

@sidrolf Ай бұрын

Love the video! I really want this bike but I am 5'3/5'4 height, would it still be worth considering or should I stick to Ninja 400 territory?

@user-iv6gl5np4v 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed review on the eclutch. I have a bike with DCT, and one with a quickshifter. The eclutch, for me, brings together the best features of each system. Question: if you were to take off from a dead stop with the bike in a high gear, would the bike still slowly accelerate away while dragging the clutch?

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

Yes. It'll pull away from a dead start in sixth gear. It won't do your clutch any good, but it'll do it.

@LeeVernon-kt6cx Ай бұрын

I own A CBR650R with the quick shifter thats a great addition. I will say this about the Eclutch - first impressions is its a big ugly lump of metal sticking out of the side of the crankcase is what struck me initially.

@method341 22 күн бұрын

Hey mate, what mic are you using?

@flamingdumpster9096 Ай бұрын

Can you blip on the downshift to smooth the shift? Would that confuse the e-clutch?

@gleam333 Ай бұрын

cb650r is my perfect bike now.. wish they kept the perfectly round headlight though, perfect shape

@gabrielzb4129 2 ай бұрын

Love the channel. So the E-Clutch does the same thing as a Rekluse clutch... with extra steps? I rode the MV with the Rekluse, and it was very good. Does the "E Clutch" have any advantage over the Rekluse?

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

I've not ridden or tested a Rekluse clutch, but my understanding is that's a purely mechanical system working on centrifugal force alone. That would mean clutch engagement is linked just to engine rpm. And that would mean, for example, the clutch can't disengage when you're changing gears. E-Clutch, being electronic rather than mechanical, is able to have far greater and more flexible control over the clutch.

@AlfinoFr 2 ай бұрын

still curious on how the e-clutch will adapt as the clutch plates worn off and the biting point recess.

@thedragon1322 Ай бұрын

This is yet another option from Honda which I'm happy to see as I have limited dexterity in my left hand which makes clutch manipulation difficult and cumbersome. My question is, as a taller rider, how are the ergonomics?

@Neketre Ай бұрын

I'm a big fan of a lighter clutch pull, and one less cable to lubricate. I can see this being a real game changer in traffic as well.

@sigrholambda 2 ай бұрын

so is the difference between this and a dct is that you still have to shift with your foot?

@dexran.v Ай бұрын

Does anyone know if it's possible to convert the taillight from the 2024 variant to the 2023 variant? Would be really cool if it worked because I think the front of the 2023 looks better than the 2024 front :) Would be a good combination with the 2023 front and 2024 rear lights.

@RobDaKid87 Ай бұрын

I'd like this on my rebel. I already have DCT because it's my absolute chill bike. That said, i wouldn't mind being able to choose my gear(with my foot) and see how that would be.

@kn58 2 ай бұрын

Well well well. I was salivating over the new 600RR and here comes the 650R with E clutch. Decisions decisions hmmm.

@harryblanchette3514 Ай бұрын

Looked at the cb650 today, as in the market for a new bike. Love the look of it, just not sure I fit it correctly at 6ft and not a small bloke worried I might look abit big. How tall are you?

@Mufga81 Ай бұрын

I'm 5ft 9in tall and it fits me fine - hope that helps.

@beckst3 27 күн бұрын

If the eclutch fails, does the override also fail?

@bingoberra18 Ай бұрын

How many times will someone come up at a meet and blip the throttle on one of these, and it takes off because it was still in 1st gear? It almost happened to me on my Rekluse KTM, fortunately I was in neutral at the time, but the dude could not have known.

@francisnamoro9255 Ай бұрын

Its basically typical underbone(Asia's staple bikes) shifting such as xrm125 and the like, manual gearbox minus clutch lever in this case they left the clutch lever available still for some reason

@Hutk15hira 7 күн бұрын

I need this

@Dara-ih6jq 25 күн бұрын

I hope they put it on the next CB1000-R I’m bout rdy to trade up from my CB650R. Had it 4 years now.

@iam_mono1892 2 ай бұрын

The naked is still a good looking bike, and has an excellent finish.

@ericalger5003 12 күн бұрын

Why isn't this available on US Market bikes!!?? The E clutch on a CBR1000RR-R just might be amazing.

@eightballsidepocket Ай бұрын

With cable throttle, cable clutch, and a simple shift sensor, I see no reason this can't be sold as a retrofit with a piggyback controller for existing bikes like the 500 series. I think a large part of the 500 class would love to opt for this, myself included.

@ricardo6861 2 ай бұрын

Hello Martin nice 2 meet u lol

@mmahdim5912 2 ай бұрын

fantastice bike

@jafr1858 2 ай бұрын

How quickly does it get off the line? Are perfect fast starts now guaranteed no matter your ability? Literally the first question that came to mind when this system was announced.

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

I don't know about "perfect" fast starts, but they'd probably be more consistent with E-Clutch.

@petertoms518 Ай бұрын

If I had arthritis or carpal tunnel, this could be a welcome solution. However the fun is doing all this myself. I also like driving trucks with manual road ranger gearboxes which is rear now so I’m “so” old school.😅

@DNAtraveling 12 күн бұрын

But that's the point, you can do it yourself, if you ride it like normal it will be normal, But if you're in town, or just crunching miles it seems perfect to help fatigue

@mrcru53 2 ай бұрын

I know that voice! He’s one of those hilarious Poms from FEC! 😂

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

"Hilarious"

@credz911 2 ай бұрын

To car people, this is semi-automatic. Great bike and video

@lachlancannard 2 ай бұрын

Would have considered it if it were an actual automatic. Shame the smallest automatic is an 1100 here in Aus.

@rizaldyreyes41 20 күн бұрын

Wooowww!!! Finally a sports bike for riders without left hand fingers 🤣👍🍻

@MrGeati6783 2 ай бұрын

I want this in every bike, not as an upgrade!.

@Grahamvfr 2 ай бұрын

At 7.31...im sure you know Martin lots of bikes still have throttle cables but still are fly by wire (my vfr12 for example)

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

Sure. On those bikes (early Yam rbw systems were the same, I think) the cables from the twistgrip don't go to the throttles, but push & pull a sensor. On these 650s the cables go directly to the throttle bodies.

@Grahamvfr 2 ай бұрын

@@Mufga81 Ah I get that, thank you 👍

@method341 22 күн бұрын

Can someone please clarify - the e clutch is not fully automatic. All I need to do is to release the throttle in the right rpm range and the clutch activates on its own but I still need to manually change the gear? So I don't have to touch the clutch but I still have to manually change gear. Thanks

@DNAtraveling 12 күн бұрын

With e clutch you can change the gears at any point by manually shifting with your foot.you don't need to even release the throttle, as mentioned in the video.

@davidreed9217 2 ай бұрын

Apart from down shifts (until RBW) , I can see E Clutch being better than Quickshifter as you sometimes don't get smooth up changing with Quickshifter. With E Clutch do you have to close the throttle on changing up, or does the ignition cut like Quickshifter?.

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

You don't have to close the throttle to upshift. E-Clutch works with a quickshifter, which cuts fuel & spark to allow the next gear to slot in.

@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 23 күн бұрын

@@Mufga81What about on down shift?

@Mufga81 23 күн бұрын

@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve Like a two-way quickshifter, it's meant for you to shift down with a completely closed throttle. E-Clutch will, however, change down even if you have the throttle open somewhat.

@memo06 Ай бұрын

If eclutch is activated, do I have to briefly take off the accelerator when changing gear?

@Mufga81 Ай бұрын

Nope - for upshifts you can hold the throttle open, at any position you like, just like you're using a quickshifter.

@rstrakovsky Ай бұрын

This would be brilliant on a dirt bike. I hope we see it on a CRF450RL

@davidbates5310 2 ай бұрын

Well described, can you imagine how confusing that would've been if Mr Hargreaves was doing it 😱😱

@notachannel4u 21 күн бұрын

Those elevated crossings are made for you to slow down!

@Hondadctrider Ай бұрын

Is the bike classed as a manual or semi-automatic? I have a NC750X DCT and I have a disability in my left hand, which means that I am unable to use a clutch. I passed my bike test on a DCT so I can only ride automatic bikes.

@DNAtraveling 12 күн бұрын

I would assume it's manual technically but it's an interesting question

@davidsandilands1285 2 ай бұрын

E clutch, less wear and tear on the gear box compared with a quick shifter

@donderstorm1845 Ай бұрын

interesting. so effectively it works as a quickshifter and auto blipper. i love technology

@avedgy 2 ай бұрын

Looking forward to a more reliable eclutch when it gets it's kinks worked out in a year or two. Don't buy first year things. Just wait for the fixes to roll out then get it.

@1976gerbel Ай бұрын

E-Clutch = Quickshifter/Blipper ?

@mervyoung5397 26 күн бұрын

I really like the look of the new CBR650R however, it’s the heaviest option in its class, which puts me off. If it was as light, or close to the Aprilia RS660, I would buy one in a heartbeat! I love the Honda tech though. Clever engineering!

@jared123123 23 күн бұрын

For sure, Aprilia aside though it does have the most power in its segment . Also can’t beat an i4 which is the only one in its class. Either way honestly the weight is completely manageable . If your really needing to shed some weight to ride really aggressive your probably gonna want to lean towards the 600cc class anyways. Or even like a ninja400 , Can also shed some weight pretty easy. Full exhaust system shaves about 15lbs off instantly over stock set up.

@ragerider6283 2 ай бұрын

Interesting review. The E-clutch is a novel & clever thing but I don't see why I would want one. Especially when it adds weight, cost (minimal I know, but still) & just feels like an answer to a question nobody asked. I can see the application & how it could be appealing to some, but equally I just don't see the point personally. I would have preferred Honda to have focused on improving the suspension, brakes & making them lighter.

@DNAtraveling 12 күн бұрын

See I don't see why you wouldn't

@ragerider6283 12 күн бұрын

@@DNAtraveling I kind of agree....but I just don't want one at all lol. Can't fully explain it tbh. I guess it fixes a problem I never had.

@DNAtraveling 12 күн бұрын

@@ragerider6283 once more bikes get it o am super interested A transalp or big cruiser bike , something to make town a bit easier, or touring.once you have been on the saddle for like 300miles, its easy to make mistakes after a long day

@ragerider6283 12 күн бұрын

@@DNAtraveling Yes I take your point & can see where it could be useful, but currently not for me or the type of riding I do. Although, I don't have any issue with other people wanting it. I probably will one day too. I said the same about a QS & now I have one. I could happily live without it but it definitely has it's benefits.

@DNAtraveling 12 күн бұрын

@@ragerider6283 don't get me wrong I don't buy new bikes , so I won't play with it for a long time 😅

@shivamarya5225 Ай бұрын

What is that helmet model name, I can't find the same color one

@Mufga81 Ай бұрын

My lid is an X-Lite X-803 Ultra Carbon. I think the rider(s) in Honda's B-roll footage are wearing Sharks.

@huh0123 Ай бұрын

Can’t wait for this to make its way to cars, the manuals will return en-masse probably then.

@aneeshnaushad 29 күн бұрын

man that e clutch is adding some extra bulk to the bike. Need to be extra careful while cutting traffic

@judge831 2 ай бұрын

You can always rev it out. You're in 3rd. Downshift to 2nd or 1st. You'll be there.

@chriswest2290 2 ай бұрын

So apart from it pulling the clutch in and out from a stop. What is the difference of this and a up down quick shifter? What is better for in a performance stand point. ?

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

According to the Honda engineers who designed the system, E-Clutch shifts are faster and smoother than a quickshifter alone. They say upshifts are 20% quicker. That's the performance benefit.

@chriswest2290 2 ай бұрын

@Mufga81 the reviewer said its slower on a down shift. Of it was faster it would be used in a race application.

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

@@chriswest2290 Hi, I am the reviewer, nice to meet you. E-Clutch downshifts on the 650s feel a little clunkier than the best autoblipper systems I've tested on other bikes. The 650s don't have a blipper. That's a limit of the 650s' throttle cables, not E-Clutch. Would E-Clutch + blipper be faster than blipper alone? Don't know - it'd be interesting to test.

@chriswest2290 2 ай бұрын

@@Mufga81 thanks for the update.

@merseamoto3098 2 ай бұрын

I looked at the e-clutch at the show in November, and unfortunately it just looked like a cumbersome addition to the engine. Although it sounds good, personally I thought it looked awful, and when you buy a bike looks are everything. Would rather have a quick shifter or do without and use the clutch.

@jorelplay8738 2 ай бұрын

Man, the naked 650s are gorgeous. Even the exhaust pipes are better looking than cb1000r’s

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

I love the CB's downpipes too. A nod to the CB400 for those who know.

@Banditmanuk 2 ай бұрын

I really like this reviewer, nicely explained. I still don't understand why you would want an e-clutch? Doesn’t sound as smooth going down the box as a standard auto blipper. Isn't part of the joy of motorcycling the skill of clutch control? I wonder what class this bike would fall into if riding it on a motorcycle test?

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

I believe it's classed as a manual motorcycle - my understanding is you'll need a manual licence to ride it. As for whether you could cheat the system by passing your test on an E-Clutch bike, demonstrate no clutch control skill in the process and still get a full manual licence as a result... maybe, I guess that could be possible. That's one for the DVSA to look into, I guess.

@cydev8450 Ай бұрын

for people who loves to ride a proper sports bike but in a comfortable way

@stun_locked 2 ай бұрын

I don't understand why they won't release this in the states... I've literally been waiting for this bike for over a year just to find out they won't be releasing it here...

@robbikebob 2 ай бұрын

Didn't the old honda cubs have a manual gearbox with no clutch?

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

They used a centrifugal clutch and a manual gearbox.

@ashraffrefinish1985 2 ай бұрын

What's are your thoughts about this against the Daytona 660?

@Mufga81 2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't want to pre-empt a group test that Bennetts BikeSocial might be planning for later in the year... ;)

@bennettsbikesocial 2 ай бұрын

@@Mufga81 Cheers Mr! 😁

@bennettsbikesocial 2 ай бұрын

Stay tuned - you might just find out soon

@willelliott5052 2 ай бұрын

I have owned an FJR1300 with electric clutch, and I have owned a VFR1200X with DCT. I think that an electric clutch with a fully auto shifting mode would be ideal. The DCT is just too heavy.