No worries. In some cultures only God is perfect, so adding a flaw is a rule in order to not insult God. A note on boring cars. Totally agree, however that includes car colors. It seems to me that less and less cars are not just some monochromatic white/grey/black, even dark blue is rarely seen. PS. On safety at the charge station - European here. Troubling to hear safety is so bad, supposedly it is getting better lately (despite what certain networks claim).

Two months and I am still waiting... Aahh... Hang on... Here's an email I missed: It says "Your cheque is in the mail". All good, thanks. 👍 😜

Thanks Alexander. Just doing the reviews I'd want to see.

Wow! That's crazy generous Will. Please email me if you ever need to bounce a car question off me. You deserve VIP treatment. I'm taking Martin out for dinner! Thanks for the support.

True. SUVs are like a big drum and it's tough to tame the resonance.

Agreed. The lack of a lift back pushed us to the Polestar 2

A shooting brake version would be amazing.

agree, that 's the only thing missing. its much better than a model 3, its not so stripped down, stalks, front camera, USS sensors etc.

I’ve heard the needing to stop frequently anyway argument before, but I feel like there’s a huge difference between stopping occasionally because you want to or stopping every couple hours for at minimum 15-30 minutes because you have to. I’m glad you like your vehicle but I’m someone who will pull 4-6 hour shifts behind the wheel on long trips. It would drive me crazy to take extended stops that frequently

Agreed. Making those points in a video is tough to visualize.

@@ianberry5562 fair enough. I’m in my mid 50’s and those stops are no longer up to me if you know what I mean. A 4 hour leg without stopping is just no longer possible… unless I dehydrate myself for a couple days. I have only had to stop for more than 20 minutes 2 times out of about 40. Most of the time the car is ready in 15 minutes or so. This Hyundai EV charging platform is really strong. But I get it, EV’s aren’t for everyone.

I think if you have a family then you don't want to stop that often. The faster you get to your destination the better imo. On my prior 5.5 hours trip to visit family I would want to at least stop once to get out and use the restroom or so. This would be a good time to get some food too if needed. With others then the car with you there are things that are out of your control so at times I do stop 2-3 times or so if anything. I've done the same 5.5 hour trip without any stops before but this is really only when it's super late at night whole my family is sleeping and I'm lucky enough not to have to go to the restroom at all. I would say if I'm driving by myself it would be way different as any stop will be on my time now. If I want to stop for anything I'm not holding anyone else up from being at the destination. I'm on my own schedule and with that stopping to rest is perfectly fine. Even longer breaks to go shopping or so. Everyone situations are different. EVs are doable at this time if charging will be quick as well. If you're sticking to bigger cities or places then that would be more ideal. If you have to go out and off the path I would stick with an ICE car. For me I wasn't going to get an EV until I was able to quick charge on a car with decent range. Like someone mentioned, it's about the time traveled instead and not so much the range. Pumping gas is like a 3-5 min process if there is no line. EV charging up to 80% is a 15-18 min process again depending if there isn't a line again. If you value time more above anything else on long trips then don't get an EV. If you don't mind planning our your trips accordingly around charging stations then get an EV. Eventually there will be more EV charging stations or stalls in the future so it's only going to get better at this point. I still like ICE cars for certain things but an EV is pretty awesome imo if it works for you.

Always trying. Thanks Alex!

Ha! I meant to look that up. I hope Mr. Wilson was well paid because obviously he was typecast after that.

I had an EV6 before I got my Ioniq 6. It was a great car! Mostly identical but the vibe of the Ioniq 6 is more my style.

@@BobDunn0 I'm still a fan of sedans as well. I just didn't like the whole two tone look on the outside. I wish they made the bottom black on all the colors. Also if it was a liftback I would've considered it more. I just like having an SUV like vehicle to do more things with it. The extra space is nice. The reclining rear seats were a factor for me too.

I have one! Loooooooooove it!

Yup. Rural areas tend to be underserved.

Brian! Hope all is well man.

It's all in the details huh?

It's coming. A standalone afterschool special!

Now there's pressure on me to keep it entertaining till the end.

Why more frequent tire replacement? The extra weight?

@@jdm1039 I believe it is the weight, and increased torque.

​@@Bum_HipThank you

Yeah, I'm looking into tires. I've heard a 20% loss of life on average. It depends on how aggressive the owner's driving style is of course, like any other vehicle.

​@@jdm1039weight and some of us have a lead foot.

I've not driven a RWD EV in the snow so sorry, no experience. But the weight should help. Proper tires are of course make a huge difference.

My pleasure! Thanks for your support Mr Nut.

Sadly, went by that location and many of the cords were missing this time around.

ID4, I hate to see id4@ electrify America station, it takes forever for them to leave, and always fucking a lot of them, if you buy those shit cars with slow charging speed, the least put a level 2 charger at home, if you can’t have a level 2 charger installed at home, buy something like this one: ioniq 5 or ioniq 6

​@@matthewliuliu666I see your point but you need to look at the bigger picture. We need more stalls at every EV stations instead of more stations. To me the amount of stations right now is fine for the time being. It's the amount of stalls at each station that bugs me. Every station should have at least 10-12 stalls imo in case some are down. This will provide enough stalls for people with slower charging cars and keep around 6 stalls available or for faster cars. I'm not sure who's idea it was to make an EA station for example with only 4 chargers not knowing that they are giving free charging away with every single Hyundai car for example. That's just asking for a headache waiting to happen for their customers. BTW I have an EV6 GT at this time. One of the reason why I got it was for the fast charging. Also don't even ask to put level 2 chargers at these EA stations cause people with slow cars won't even know to use them instead of the 350kW stalls. Just make them all 350kW so that there is a better chance of getting one. That's if they're not broken or charging super slow for some reason. Home charging is key people. I only use stations now if I'm on a trip or if I need to charge real quick for unplanned ones.

my sister tried to get a kia from a local dealer and they were...less than forthcoming. she drove out to kia dealer who wasn't as morally challenged and got the plug in. six years later it's been perfect. anecdotal but true.

from some angles i agree. others....not so much

I did not, at least pitch black. My street is pretty dark and I had no issues like yours.

Thanks Peter! Hope you're staying warm in Sweden.

There is no EPA highway range for EVs. It's an estimated range and then the MPGe figures that are a poor way of communicating efficiency to the layperson.

@@DrivenCarReviews I agree MPGe is dumb. However, the EPA publishes an MPGe for city, highway and combined as well as the formula for MPGe (from which their published “combined range” is derived). With some very basic math you could publicize the independent city, highway and combined range figures. Just do the math and help your viewers.

Huh. Missed that.

Yeah, this one isn't going to have a 2.0. It won't sell enough. Sedans are dead and swoopy sedans with no trunks are deader than dead. Hey, Camp Mother is reason enough to buy it though....so, congrats. And enjoy!

I believe so. It's noticeable after a minute when going from the 5 to the 6.

I didn't even know there was a PJs in Shoreline.

Love the idea of the N but I'm sure the range is lowered like EV6 GT. Will be driving it soon.

@@DrivenCarReviews Agreed, the range will not be good :/, but great they have created such a sporty version.

The Leaf is great for daily driving, a friend of mine has one, bought it off lease for $12K, he is very happy. His wife has an ICE car for out-of-town trips.

@@TinLeadHammer exactly! Such is / are the ideal owners of a Leaf. And consider this, NO Leaf has ever caught fire on its own due to the battery. It isn't perfect but show me.a car that is! Meanwhile I save easily NET about $210/month not buying gasoline and supporting less than desirable countries that produce the oil for gas.

My brother had a 2014 and it was great with little battery degradation. But then there was a crash this fall. Totaled. Replaced it with a Bolt EUV.

As long as you do not want to impress the neighbors...you are golden! My brother's Leaf got totaled via fratricide: a Nissan Armada rear ended him at a red light in Glendale, AZ.

But, alas, saving didn't happen.

Do they have cute little calves too?

Advanced AWD in red is impossible to find?

Yes, I read the script wrong. Corrected on other versions (I can't reload the vid to YT without losing all the comments).

@@DrivenCarReviews Whhooops!

Interest rates.

The I6 hasn’t been available for as long as the I5 or EV6 have.

Partly because it's pretty new.

But you can't trust him to show up

@@DrivenCarReviews Evil AND unreliable! 😠👿

Like some kid drew it in kindergarten circa 1993.

My dad used to call that "the old Indian trick" and I never asked him why.

Bastardized 911 was my first thought but mutated VW beetle sounds less judgmental.

It's on the short list. For the next few months I need to concentrate on my daughter's wedding though.

@@DrivenCarReviews Eyes on the prize!

I can't help it if you don't have good taste. Kidding. Really, this is like a Rorschach test. People love it or hate it. I like the drama a lot. My son hates it.

@@DrivenCarReviews Your son show his good taste.

I am not the TP fairy. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r52nf8eJt9jOk2Q.html

I'm guessing that unused and unopened bathroom tissue could be returned to Costco. Unless this conversation was headed into the toilet.

Is that figure right?

​@@jazzjokesjalopiesThat is what I've heard him saying. There is a lot of disinformation around :)

I’m sure he mis-spoke. He probably meant 5%-100% in ten hours

I misspoke. 5-100% in 10 hours.

Buy the vehicle that works for you. EVs work for a lot of people.

I had a hybrid for 11 years. Own an EV now. Hybrids have been around forever, but NOW you all think hybrids make sense. They didn't make sense when gas was 4.50, but now they do for some strange reason.

@@WordsMatter1982 They don't like hybrids any more than they ever did. Just talking them up a tad, lip service at its finest. It's just a way to keep that nasty two-letter phrase "E-V" out of their mouths.

They're not the target audience

Perhaps, they'll get a used one down the road. New cars are not going to be "for everyone" in the future, just in case you haven't gotten the memo.

Form follows function.

See? It polarizes.

Most certainly! It could be an American Motors Gremlin----or a Yugo. No----they wouldn't dare.

I wouldn't say ugly, but it is strange looking.Remind me of a porsche in the front and the back reminds me of volkswagen 😂😂

Could be a Pontiac Aztek

So it is a recall at no cost for an owner. What's the problem? Tesla's models 3 and Y are ugly inside with almost no physical controls and with a go-cart suspension. I would consider the Y if Tesla made a proper dashboard for it, I don't like the huge TV screen bolted to a wooden plank.

@@TinLeadHammer So I guess you haven't seen the new Tesla Model 3 AND you don't need anything else with a Tesla because everything is set automatically or can be controlled by your voice unlike other legacy dinosaur juice gas sucking cars! Also, you like paying for $50,000 out of warranty batteries? You sound pretty smart there.

@@akennedystocks I am driving a GTi that I bought for $5K off the sticker price because no one wanted a stick shift and I happen to like it. I saw the updated Model 3 interior - what is new? A bigger flat panel perched in the middle of the bare dash? Enjoy your Tesla, my friend.

@@TinLeadHammer I will, it is an elegant vehicle without needless buttons. Enjoy your stick shift and your blackberry with all the needless knobs and buttons.

People have different reasons for buying different vehicles. Hope you're enjoying your vehicle. Let others enjoy theirs.

you are both too cruel and too accurate

It doesn't need a replacement unless it's damaged... they have a 10yr 100k mile warranty on batteries. Where did you hear about it lasting only 3~5 years?

@@jeju_trophycollector As Tom said, EV mis-info. From the Oil Patch, of course.

Noah, do some homework. Or stop spreading falsehoods. All EV batteries in the US are warranted for at least 8 years or 100,000 against significant degradation. All EVs sold in California must have coverage that lasts 10 years or 150,000 miles. Generally, pack degradation is not an issue. Nissan Leafs had some trouble but those packs didn't have cooling systems.

We'd be speculating. Buy one and find out. California requires that they function for eight years (and believe me this standard would not exist without CA) , without getting into minutia that ought to do the job for the majority of use cases.

Everything I've studied says you're getting bad information. There are plenty of 10 year old Teslas running around Seattle in good pack health and precious few EVs that need battery replacements in 5-7 years (on par with cars that need new gas engines in the same time frame). I had a Volvo that got "totaled" after it was hit by a Subaru causing seemingly average damage. There are always horror stories, ICE or EV. And let's not forget the TRILLIONS of our tax dollars the petroleum companies have received over the years. I look at it as this- For once we ordinary people can get some of our tax money back. Take advantage of it dude.

I would likely only consider Teslas since they seem to make the same products for years with incremental changes. In theory that should mean availability of parts and hopefully keep costs lower compared to the latest offerings from other automakers.

@@DrivenCarReviews there has recently been a few issues in Canada that have been on the news or other review channels. One of them was for the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. They don't operate when the temperature goes below -20C. I am guessing it is an oversight in the ECM firmware, but it's a big oversight to have hundreds of bricked $65k vehicles for a couple of weeks in the winter up here. It's likely an easy fix, I'm guessing a software update to simply run the gas engine to condition the battery pack (assuming that was the problem). The other issues have been with Hyundai EV vehicles, specifically the Ioniq 5 and Ioniq Sedan (before it). There has been a few examples where the customer ran over some mild road debris (small branch, exhaust pipe, etc) which caused the debris to bounce up under the car and hit the "belly" where the batteries are. In those examples, what looks like a benign impact, ended up writing the vehicle off (which is a scam). I think Tesla vehicles have a titanium underbelly plate to protect the battery pack, so that might be money well spent if that is going to be a weak point. I also read that tire shops in California (where there are tons of Teslas) say they often need new tires every 20,000 miles. EVs are heavy and the EV tires apparently don't last as long. EV tires are also more expensive to buy, so that's something to consider as well. You can go visit the "Motormouth" channel and search for the battery issues, if nothing more than to learn about what has happened up here. As I said, I think EVs are the future, I just don't think we are there yet in terms of infrastructure and battery technology.

EV battery replacement at 5-7 years is extremely rare and would be covered by warranty in the unlikely event it was required. Repair ability is an issue with EVs and any new technology. Personally I am waiting for a gas powered vehicle that gets 100 mpg and I can refuel at home. Until then I’ll stick with an EV.

You got it wrong. EVs are disposable now, with non-removable battery and no clear plan for recycling. I am hoping for a single standard quick-removable battery for ALL makes and models, which would be rented from charging stations, not purchased with a vehicle.

What Hyundai 3 row EV? The Ioniq 7 (or 9 whatever it's going to be called) is not out yet.

What 3 row Hyundai EV?

xray I'll assume you mean the Kia EV9, correct?

Thanks jimbv2168! We appreciate the support.