2024 Kia EV9 Vs. 2024 Rivian R1S: Family Electric SUVs Compared

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There are many all-electric SUVs, but few that offer three rows of seats. If you want one with traditional SUV styling, these two here - the 2024 Kia EV9 and 2024 Rivian R1S - are among your choices. Cars.com recently purchased an EV9 Land trim level with all-wheel drive, and we were curious to see how it compares with Rivian’s R1S - in this case a 2024 Performance Dual-Motor AWD variant with the Max battery pack.
This EV9’s sticker price is a whopping $74,305 (including destination), while this R1S is priced at an eye-watering $102,550. Come with us as Senior Road Test Editor Mike Hanley and Road Test Editor Brian Normile drive and compare these three-row electric SUVs, assessing everything from comfort to performance to interior quality.
Find a 2024 Kia EV9 for sale near you:
www.cars.com/shopping/kia-ev9...
Find a 2024 Rivian R1S for sale near you:
www.cars.com/shopping/rivian-...
See the 2024 Kia EV9’s pricing, trims and specs:
www.cars.com/research/kia-ev9...
See the 2024 Rivian R1S’ pricing, trims and specs:
www.cars.com/research/rivian-...
Read more about the Kia EV9 and Rivian R1S: www.cars.com/articles/is-the-...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:14 Interior comfort and space
3:02 Interior storage areas
4:34 Unique amenities
5:33 Ride comfort and handling
8:17 Connectivity features and infotainment
10:31 Kia EV9 conclusions
11:41 Performance
13:25 One-pedal driving
14:36 Efficiency and charging
15:54 Front trunk storage
17:14 Interior quality
19:00 Interior controls and screens
20:54 Rivian R1S conclusions
22:12 Pricing considerations
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@ChrisAngelaPrezzano 10 күн бұрын

I think it would’ve been more accurate to compare the base model Rivian that starts at 78,000. The battery capacity and range is roughly the same as is the price.

@mjhowson2389 11 күн бұрын

Rivian designed the R1 vehicles to perform off road as well. I think part of their price - and weight - is the suspension and what it can do off road. You sort of glossed over that and treated it like a normal 3-row SUV. Sure, many buyers may not go off road. But they are paying for that performance, and the 0-60 time. I think Kia did a great job, and I’m also curious to see if Rivian can bring the R2 to market on time and budget.

@fanovaohsmuts 11 күн бұрын

They're reviewing it from the perspective of an everyday family hauler, not as an off road vehicle. Plenty of people will buy cars that have plenty of off road capabilities but relegate them to mall crawling. See: any Land Rover. I think they can do a second review that focuses on their off road capabilities.

@mjhowson2389 11 күн бұрын

@@fanovaohsmuts Thanks, Jackal.

@Rx100Vx 10 күн бұрын

Yeah totally agree

@theclutch19 9 күн бұрын

You guys did a really good job of putting me to sleep. Paaalleeeaasseee... one of you at least needs to increase the energy and excitement level!

@pnketia 4 күн бұрын

Why are you comparing a top spec Rivian with a mid spec Kia and then complaining about the price difference??????? Nonsense comparison IMHO.

@BeanEW 11 күн бұрын

EV9 is a family EV and Rivian is an adventure EV (never advertised as a family SUV). If compare with a Rivian, you must also compare off-road capabilities.

@RaoulHira 5 күн бұрын

Why not compare the Gen2 Rivian with a standard version and not the max pack! It's crazy to compare a 400mile range EV with a 280! And then complain about the price difference.

@venkatga2791 10 күн бұрын

This is one of the most disingenuous reviews I have seen. They might as well have said that it is an ad for Kia. Comparing a Kia with 280 miles range with a 400 miles range R1S and complaining about the price difference? Guess, what? R1S with 270 mile range is $75,900. R1S offers more power, off-road capability, towing capacity and generous storage space all at the 76k price tag. Kia has Car Play support. I give them that!

@tooltalk 8 күн бұрын

EV9 Light Long Range with 300 miles range goes for just $50K (after Kia/Dealer incentive) these days. As noted in the video, Kia/Dealership incentives almost everywhere due to South Korea's weak currency and it's also buyers' market.

@R56Cooper 11 сағат бұрын

@tooltalk not to mention lease deals for the EV9 Light Long Range Trim are commonly seen at $500/month with 0 due at signing-- as a comparison, cannot even lease a model y rwd for those numbers🎉🎉

@darrenchin8492 9 күн бұрын

Like the comparison But pls redo the review with 2025 R1S with standard pack 75k

@True_Dad 9 күн бұрын

I looked at buying an EV9 prior to ordering an R1S. The captains chairs is a forced option on most trims on the Kia- if you have a lot of kids that’s not going to work. I’ll take the bench row thanks. Now if all those seats are full, where do I put the stroller, suitcases, bags, a cooler? The Kia won’t work. You can spec the r1s remarkably close to an EV9. I ordered a dual standard. It has almost as much storage as the full-size expedition max. It can also tow, offroad and somehow the Kia is only about as efficient?? How does that work. I was shocked how small the EV9 is when I went to look at them. The rear seats feel claustrophobic compared to the R1S. Head room? I felt like I was stuffed in an enclosed box back there. In the R1S it was light and airy and I was sitting straight up and down, not hunched or leaning like the Kia. This video definitely seemed biased in a big way. It touched on the very few things the EV9 does comparatively well, focused on the *optional* price difference and spoke little to no words on the numerous things the Rivian can do that the Kia just plain can’t. When you started talking to people about a $70k+ car and then tell them it’s a Kia, you lost them. You show them a Rivian for the same money and they’re interested. The configurations available in the Kia aren’t actually family friendly. Either lose a seat to make the back seat even remotely bearable, or take a much lower trim without any of the nice features. The Kia is neither practical or realistic as an actual 3 row SUV. Sure, if you’ve only got 2 kids and don’t actually use the third row except for occasional kids friends or folded down for cargo space, it’s fine. For a family that actually needs to use the 3rd row everyday? It’s not an option, unfortunately.

@MR-sj6rq 2 күн бұрын

Info systems are just a learning curve. They all work pretty well. If you want to jump into a new electric ride and think that you are going to know how to use everything in a day or two, let alone a few hours you are wrong. I am no supertech dude but after owning my Niro for 9 months I found out I could change the temp and turn the seats on with voice commands. Smiple stuff, but did not know it. As far as user profiles, seat settings and mirrors for the driver was a 2003 thing in my 300M. I don't know why more cars these days don't...

@Wasabi9111 11 күн бұрын

Ev9 is a more family friendly option. But there are cheaper more comparable rivian options for this comparison. However, for 6 pass, the minivan is still a better option for long road trips.

@True_Dad 9 күн бұрын

The Kia is actually much less family friendly, unless you don’t actually need a third row or trunk space.

@teddy500U 10 күн бұрын

Imo, the comparison isn't right. They are comparing apples with oranges. EV9 is a daily family car. Rivian is known for off toad capabilities. See other reviews. That is what you get for 30k more. Better off road capability, better approach angle, better departure angle, power, towing capacity, etc.. There is a lot to learn from Out of Spec (Kyle) and Auto focus (MKBHD) reviews. This looks like a sales pitch to me, not an honest review

@Fabulousprofound168 10 күн бұрын

Waiting to see what the Hyundai Ioniq9 will be like…

@Demobot1 9 күн бұрын

I'm waiting on the price for the ID. Buzz. The Buzz does loose some points for not offering AWD and 7 seats.

@True_Dad 9 күн бұрын

@@Demobot1I looked at a Buzz at the auto show, I wasn’t super impressed it seemed sort of plain somehow but I liked it enough I’d have bought one if they were available already. Ordered a Rivian and got a delivery date within 2 weeks. Can’t wait to see more 3 row EVs coming out!

@Demobot1 9 күн бұрын

@@True_Dad I personally could not justify buying a Rivian but to each their own. I'll probably end up with a Kia EV9 Land (I need those 7 seats lol). But the ID. Buzz just has a hold of my curiosity.

@tooltalk 7 күн бұрын

@@Demobot1 just be sure to negotiate hard. It's buyer's market and Kia is willing to offer aggressive incentive b/c of South Korea's weak currency.

@bjackson1975 8 күн бұрын

Will be curious on the redo now the Rivian generation 2 is coming out

@CourtneyWright76 5 сағат бұрын

Not sure how to say this , but I did not think some of their comparisons were not very "thoughtful" as a whole......

@evanmig 8 күн бұрын

Why are you comparing apples and oranges? You could have tested the large pack quad motor R1S with 835hp and 320 miles of range and kept it just over $80K. Much more performance and plenty of range anyways. This feels contrived.

@hewydewy2164 4 күн бұрын

Are you a family that wants an EV or a business owner that wears a vest with a button up shirt on a daily basis?

@Rx100Vx 10 күн бұрын

The rivian range , HP and interiors and off road capability puts it in a different class than the EV 9 . They should really not be compared just coz they are 3 row SUV’s . Both speak to a different audience and price points along with lifestyle.

@Rx100Vx 10 күн бұрын

Also the size and storage difference is very apparent along with the various drive modes and software driven connected features in the Rivian.

@swyang68 6 күн бұрын

Forget about the 6 figure price tag, Rivian's problem is that the build quality is not there yet. It is like Range Rover, they cost super expensive so they attract dumb badge buyers but in the end, the user experience sucks.

@uiharu Күн бұрын

Lots of RIVN bag holders crying in comments.

@tonnny7908 11 күн бұрын

In ev world, Hyundai and Kia are at the top

@baldbuhda1275 3 күн бұрын

Why wouldn't you compare apples to apples? The clear theme of your video is, the Rivian costs 28k more. But there a dual motor trim with a standard battery pack that matches the EV9's range and outperforms the Kia. You had a narrative. The Rivian costs more. It's not worth the extra 28k. How about comparing it to the comparable base trim in terms of performance and range that cost the same as the Kia and is eligible for some portion of the tax credit? Oh, because you would lose your, it costs too much agenda...

@darrelpeters 11 күн бұрын

This was a good review. I have to agree with some of the other commenters here. 30 grand more than the Kia and you’re not really getting much more performance or space. I say wait a couple of years and then buy when used on the used car market. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@evanmig 8 күн бұрын

This obsession with CarPlay is kind of pathetic.

@darrelpeters 11 күн бұрын

@QK.. 11 күн бұрын

Always Rivian. Much higher quality.

@volcalstone 11 күн бұрын

Much higher price as well. Higher price doesn't always mean higher quality too. Most people will go with a base EV9 cause it's a better value as it's a bigger car if you need that space. Rivians are nice but to me as much as I like the R1S, it's the upcoming R2 what will be a better car overall. Not sure if you watched the video but they said the difference on price isn't worth it which is around $25K-$30K. If I could get an EV9 GT-line for $60K after all rebates and discounts I would be all over it right now. Until then I could wait for either a used one or when those kind of deals are available. For $75K I would rather get something else and that won't be Rivian cause I tend to like mid to high end trims. I don't ever buy base models as they're missing a lot of features that I'm already used to.

@QK.. 11 күн бұрын

@@volcalstone but the quality of Rivian is much higher. I know you pay more but it's worth it.

@normanli5270 10 күн бұрын

At least kia is giving them the only true boxy EV competition out there. The others: the mercedes benz eqs suv and the tesla model x are curvy and cost even more and their third rows are tight asf (especially the eqs suv). not gonna mention the other 2 bc those third rows are even more of a joke

@volcalstone 10 күн бұрын

@@normanli5270 yeah I would so pick the EV9 cause I do think about my passengers comfort as well. I actually sat back there and it's about the same size as the MDX in the back. Not so much the Pilot or Telluride. Every other 3rd row EVs are probably like Highlander size I'm assuming which are made for kids only. The R1S is nice but I'm not a fan of the split tailgate. I'd rather have a roll down window like the upcoming R2.

@normanli5270 10 күн бұрын

@@volcalstone yeah i would prefer the R2 and the roll down window over the R1S as well. but in terms of the kia ev9, im pretty sure interior wise, its bigger then that mdx, especially the third row with manual seats. a few inches more legroom and loads more headroom too. but i haven't sat in one before, but from reviewers the headroom in the EV is inches more than the telluride and 0.2 inches more than the new pilot

@ASD-DAD 11 күн бұрын

Rivian unproven reliability, and $30K+ more over the EV9 is a big no for me. The bottom line is, ALL EV's are overpriced, rather wait 3 years and get a pre owned still under the warranty and save 40% off of a brand new one.

@fanovaohsmuts 11 күн бұрын

How unreliable can an EV really be? With far less moving parts, id imagine they'd be generally more reliable than their ICE counterparts. That's why we see so many 1M mile Teslas, and we all know how their build quality goes.

@ASD-DAD 11 күн бұрын

@@fanovaohsmuts 1 million miles Teslas? There's virtually zero Teslas with that kind of mileage, wtf are you talking about....lol

@xavierdupuis8 11 күн бұрын

Its more reliable than a shit Kia, already many recalled ans the car is brand new lol

@ASD-DAD 11 күн бұрын

@@xavierdupuis8 cmon kid, you're just mad cause u can't afford a Kia,

@xavierdupuis8 11 күн бұрын

@@ASD-DAD Im 45 moron, I have two R1S so shot up assle. You just ridiculate yourself more, and need to invent false words to cheer you up weak

@volfan615 11 күн бұрын

The problem with the EV9 is that it's just ugly!

@normanli5270 10 күн бұрын

that would be the eqs suv

@Demobot1 9 күн бұрын

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

@Moses6cut 10 күн бұрын

Baby Boomers, “I want CarPlay” cry cry, welcome to 2024, CarPlay is old school. Also, the R1S starts at $75k

@Demobot1 9 күн бұрын

It's called choice. Kia offers it, Rivian does not.

@Moses6cut 9 күн бұрын

@@Demobot1clearly a lot of people don’t care because Tesla and Rivian have no CarPlay and they are still selling. Their UI is way better.

@Demobot1 8 күн бұрын

@@Moses6cut That's true. But it's still a feature that people wish they had in their Teslas or Rivian.

@luckylenny 11 күн бұрын

losing $1.5 bill/qtr... rivian is headed for bankruptcy for sure ... owners will be left out to dry... any benefits of Rivian's vehicles are outweighed by the negatives of its impending bankruptcy

@xavierdupuis8 11 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 another loser that know nothing if he talking about. They have many big investors in their back like Amazon, Apple, Morgan, etc you need to know a minimum before saying shit.

@QK.. 11 күн бұрын

Rivian isn't going bankrupt. Amazon saves them.

@evanmig 8 күн бұрын

You don't know much about business do you? Guess how long it took companies like Tesla, Amazon, etc to turn profit? It's call scaling, and reinvestment. Maybe learn before flaunting ignorance.