2024 KTM 300 XC W TBI First Ride Review

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Slavens Racing

Жыл бұрын

Jeff reviews the all new 2024 KTM 300 XC-W TBI after his first ride on one of his favorite local trails.

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@rusty6314 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Jeff that last one with the mountain biker head-on was crazy!

@hermitrob5481 Жыл бұрын

Priceless 😂

@CoBryan Жыл бұрын

Great review Jeff, enjoy the fact that you have input on how the actually works… facts!! I’ve live on the opposite side of the state, but dang that trail looks fun. Been threatening to ride that area for decades, best get it done one day. Sounds like a great bike to start. 👍

@cparker88 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the content Jeff! Can't wait for these to start shipping.

@TKReyesup Жыл бұрын

Got mine last week buddy. From what I hear most of the early ones are spoken for.

@cparker88 Жыл бұрын

@@TKReyesup Thanks! Preordered from a dealership in ID, they said it should arrive late July early August.

@jasonpeters9484 Жыл бұрын

@@cparker88Same here! Boise?

@robh3267 Жыл бұрын

There's a good reason why KTM has the Lyon's share of popularity, it's because of their dedication to product development, I think this is the happiest you've ever been with a new model release, would you ever consider further improvement on the stock suspension as it seems like a good platform to start from.

@TheTacticalHouse Жыл бұрын

On my 15’ XC I did the evo 4 pegs with extended shifter from Hammerhead, 4th position with Enduro High flexx bars from you guys. I’m Size 13 and 6’ 3” tall. Bike is perfect for me. Oh and the 4cs Mx tech Slavens for kit plus Mx tech valving in the back. 🎉

@kennymcfarland9895 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos!! Very helpful!

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

@bradl45 Жыл бұрын

Hello Jeff, thanks for option, and huge thanks for your youtube video's!!

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@DuhYaThink Жыл бұрын

Great content as usual. Look forward to seeing maybe a 250xc-w ride and review. Great job JS🫡

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, 250s are not popular in Colorado so I won't be buying one.

@josephflaherty3918 Жыл бұрын

All I ride is 250’s. Wayyyyy more fun than any 300 I’ve ever ridden. I’ve been on carbed 300’s, TPI 300’s and a TBI 300. Every time I get back on my 250 my smile is back. We ride a ton of single track in Arizona. Learn to use your clutch, 300’s are for guys that like to sit when they ride. You can be so lazy, it for sure is the king of slow lugging but the 250 has made me a mutch better rider.

@stephen1144 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jeff as always thanks for your expertise and comments, I have one question, is this bike fast, does it have that great 2 stroke power band or is it tame like the Beta 300rr

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Yes it is fast, best 2 stroke engine ever.

@stoplogicmotorsports Жыл бұрын

Having recently gone from a 2007 YZ250 to adding a 2019 KTM 250XC if this bike is light years beyond that I cannot conceive how much better it could get.

@johnodonoghue4607 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff I always appreciate your input. Keep it up! I’ve always been a fan of the XCs because of the transmission, being a shorter guy I feel XC is a little lower?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: The XC's do have a lower seat height but you can get any of the models lowered and revalved at the same time. Greg at Factory Suspension Works in Colorado does excellent work for a fair price.

@seanwarnercpa8357 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video as always, Jeff. I’m picking mine up this week. Is the fan plug the same as 2023?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Sean: Thank you. I already installed a Trail Tech fan kit slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/ that connects to the battery and I didn't look for a plug in connector. The '24 models use the same fan kit as the 2017-2023 models.

@JonIronhorse Жыл бұрын

Excellent review. I can't see the need to jump off of my 2015 XC yet with as little as I ride, but these new TPI's/TBI's sure make me wanna dive in. One question, though, which is better for crumbling bicyclists in their tracks, XC or XC-W? 😂

@carlatamanczyk3891 Жыл бұрын

😅

@BradBrother Жыл бұрын

I have a '15 250xc! Its dangerous riding a counterbalanced bike... much smother. However I've had my XC since new and has never let me down. Ole reliable!

@BrianLampright913 Жыл бұрын

Coming from a motocross background and living in Utah where we ride more open desert single track than mountain single track I have always preferred the XC. The last W I owned was a 2018 and when I would get off my 2022 XC and ride the 2018 the chassis geometry really bothered me, the turning was not nearly as precise and I felt like I was riding while drunk and couldn't hit my lines. Also the PDS rear end is dangerous at high speed desert riding, multiple times it kicked on my so hard almost went over the bars. Sending the suspension off to Kreft drastically improved it, but still not as good as a linkage XC model (for me). I know there have been multiple chassis updates and sharing of chassis with the SX/XC bikes since the 2018. I have a feeling I would really like the new 24 XCW, however because of my riding style I'll stick with the XC, I have to have a linkage for the speeds and open terrain out here.

@BrianLampright913 Жыл бұрын

Basically I would rather put up with a stiff setup when I'm riding technical single track rather than suffer with the XCw setup on high speed, jumps, massive whoops etc. But for the more trail oriented guys 100% agree with Jeff, buy the W instead of the XC.

@tomcorle1400 Жыл бұрын

I think the 24 TE 300 will be popular for those reasons

@suzuki06g 8 ай бұрын

For me, my 300xc is a trail bike too, someday I might race a hare scramble but not often. I got the XC because for me the linkage rear suspension just works better in the Michigan woods. To be honest, I'm thinking about a Husky TE300 for '25, because I like the linkage rear, having lights and oil injection is just nicer to live with.

@richardkay6171 6 ай бұрын

Ha, I just watched your vid and you and I share some common quirks on the '24 . I too am struggling to get the ideal shift lever position for both sitting and standing shifting. Good to know about your lowered pegs option. I also don't like the WAY too aggressive footpegs , I ended up grinding flat all the inner grip posts to lessen the "glued" feel to the pegs. I simply added a 1" bar spacer and in the fwd pos. #2 feels good for me.

@slaverace1 6 ай бұрын

Hello: I switched to Carapak 5 down/10 back pegs and voila, the lever position issue is gone.

@davidmills1017 Жыл бұрын

nice jeff, has the stock PDS improved much over the 23's i under the forks would have any comment on the rear please, and thanks for your vids

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello David: It's difficult for me to get excited about stock suspension since I'm used to much higher quality components with custom valving. Suspension revalving/respringing should be part of your budget when considering a new bike purchase.

@ianjones7526 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jeff great videos. Super happy picked up my bike on Monday. When the dealer was doing the walk through with me he mentioned to push in the button on the top of the gas cap to open the tank and twist. Went to fill up my tank tonight and noticed the locking mechanism doesn’t really do anything. Is this a normal issue with KTMs? Is there a way to fix it. I doubt the cap would ever loosen anyways. Do I contact Ktm direct or the dealer generally.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

KTM has a dealer network to handle consumer issues. Always start with where you bought the bike. Personally, I wouldn't waste the time. Ride it!

@madman432000 Жыл бұрын

Well that's a tempting invitation to come out and ride. I just retired too, earlier than anticipating by a year or so, but ya Colorado trails sound fun.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Please do!

@hermitrob5481 Жыл бұрын

My 23’ XCW doesn’t have a map switch. Just a kill switch on the clutch side.

@samscola585 9 ай бұрын

I’d love to ride with you in Colorado Jeff!! I’m from Maine and just picked up a 24 300xc-w a month ago. I love it

@slaverace1 8 ай бұрын

Come on out!

@ChrisKAloha Жыл бұрын

Map switch and a fan should come stock. Sick bike.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

That would be nice but they never have on the standard XCW, only 6 Days models.

@danayoung7516 Жыл бұрын

Jeff , nice review ! My concern is about the oil injection . The previous TPI models had a reputation for not enough lubrication . Premature piston wear . I was excited about the new XC back to mixing the oil again . I know it’s to early to know if the XCW will be too light on oil but my first thoughts would be to convert to mixing . Done deal no oil pump worries . What’s your opinion ?

@danmyers4763 Жыл бұрын

I'm with ya. I was a bit disappointed that it had oil injection. I converted my 22 XC-W to TBI and also removed the OI. After mapping changes the bike really woke up and runs phenominal. I'll likely skip the 24 in hopes the 25 will be premix.

@jtme411 Жыл бұрын

Mostly internet myths. But a simple tune such as what John Ross offers can add more oil. 👍

@slinginleaddownrange223 Жыл бұрын

You will be able to delete oil injection very easily. My guess is tsp will have a delete kit out shortly. Itll be around 50ish im guessing to delete

@richardhartley7094 Жыл бұрын

You rode it pretty good in your last video 👍

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

I rode it as well as I could for a bike that is not yet set-up for me. I'm tall so I was very cramped and uncomfortable.

@graeme5087 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jeff. I see you are still using a rear handbrake on your 23 300 xcw. And I did mention to you before about a "Clake" Which when you pull in the lever the clutch engages then the brake. All in one lever. Heaps better than chasing either lever. I use the Clake2 awesome when held up on the wrong side of an up hill.☺ Me turning 63 and 5'7" I'm sticking with my 17 300EXC (AUS) I also use Flexx bars as well. I agree on the headlight mount.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: If Clake works for you that is what you should use but they are not for me. I don't "chase either lever". I only use the LHRB and never use the clutch.

@graeme5087 Жыл бұрын

@@slaverace1 No worries. I hope I'm still riding for another 10 years.

@moleson10 Жыл бұрын

Jeff could you comment on how the W's stock suspension compares to the Greg's Factory suspension you had on the 300 xc

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

The new '24 W suspension is the best yet from KTM but it is one size fits all. Greg's suspension is custom tuned to the individual rider so it is always going to work better. www.factorysuspensionworks.com

@dr.katiecoombsnd2929 Жыл бұрын

I am on a 2017 carborated XCW 300 with a lectron and love it, love it but it is getting houred out and was waiting for this bike. I too had considered the XC but ride plenty of technical tight rocky BC trails as well as Idaho. Thoughts on the power delivery from carbed/ lectron to this bad girl?

@dr.katiecoombsnd2929 Жыл бұрын

I will fun it with an FMR gnarly and put on hand guards and pipe/ rad guards anything else needed? Can you add a mapping switch?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

The '24XCW has the best engine ever! The power delivery is better than your carbed bike, easy to modulate, user friendly. Yes a map switch can be installed. The pricey ($160) KTM switch is on BO and Sicass is working on a less expensive alternative. It needs all the usual guards and a suspension revalve. The suspension is stiff. I highly recommend Greg at www.factorysuspensionworks.com.

@owenbrowne753 Жыл бұрын

Any recommendations on mean time protection for pipe and rear disc, can’t find any parts online, seems like it might take a bit for the parts to come out

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: We have everything in stock for the '24s and we're busy updating our site. Give us a call and our staff will help you get your bike set up.

@jkell450 Жыл бұрын

I’m a big xc guy that love the trails but after this I might go to w . Slightly discouraged they made the xc frame so stiff!

@hoosierdaddy2468 Жыл бұрын

Lots of good news. Not sure what they were thinking with the top triple clamp only providing 2 positions 🤦🏻‍♂️ Looks like I need to talk one of my friends into getting one 😆

@hermitrob5481 Жыл бұрын

Smoked a mountain biker on his first ride 😂 Was priceless. Glad everyone ok though for sure.

@f5tornadeau Жыл бұрын

That’s what he gets for riding a mountain bike.

@hermitrob5481 Жыл бұрын

@@f5tornadeau It was awesome

@maximuslongrod6361 Жыл бұрын

@@f5tornadeau thats like comparing trains to boats man.. dont be that guy....both awesome worlds.

@f5tornadeau Жыл бұрын

@@maximuslongrod6361 no. Trains and boats both have engines. It’s more like comparing snowmobiles and sleds.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

I also pedal. Nothing wrong with riding a mtn bike.

@davidsalinas6084 Жыл бұрын

XCs are definitely used for trails. I have raced my 22 XC only a handful of times and maybe should have got an XC-W but the XC seems capable even though it might not be as good as the XC-W.

@moleson10 Жыл бұрын

Even though the W suspension is better for trail work I keep buying XCs. The suspension can be modded to suit your needs. I like that they are lighter and don't have a bunch of stuff that I'll just take off. I even like the air fork for its weight and adjustability. Based on the ktm manuals the 2023 250/300 xc weighs 220 lbs. The 2024 xc added 5 lbs with the spring fork and the 2024 xcw weighs 10 lbs more at 230.

@motoxposse Жыл бұрын

If I’m not mistaken the xc went back to pre-mix strange they kept oil injection on the W 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻

@brianh8484 Жыл бұрын

W and EXC are the same. EXC's are sold in other countries as street legal so it will be because of emissions

@TKReyesup Жыл бұрын

Will aftermarket skid plates be coming in soon? Thanks!

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

We already have them in stock.

@desertshooter007 11 ай бұрын

Hi Jeff, I am a tall rider as well (6'-4")...what mods do you do for ergonomics for taller riders? Thanks!

@slaverace1 11 ай бұрын

Hello: I use 15mm bar risers slavensracing.com/shop/mako-handlebar-riser-kit-by-xc-gear/, a Seat Concepts tall seat slavensracing.com/shop/complete-comfort-seat-for-ktm-by-seat-concepts/ (pricey but worth every penny) and footpegs that are 10mm rearward on my 300W and on my 500 I use pegs that are 10mm back and 5mm lower. Carapak is the footpeg brand. We are bringing them in as soon as they get a big order together for us.

@davidj9977 9 ай бұрын

The online ktm manuals confirm 2024 xc-w, 2024 xc and 2023 xc have exactly the same transmission ratios, bore/stroke/displacement.

@slaverace1 9 ай бұрын

We have a video on this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdhxf9Wm29Crdas.html&pp=ygUUc2xhdmVucyB0cmFuc21pc3Npb24%3D

@dasheildelfs5818 Жыл бұрын

Your Speedo is in kph, don’t you think you put 32 kms on it not miles?

@SOLOWP 11 ай бұрын

Hi jeff.... the motorcycle come with map switch ?

@slaverace1 11 ай бұрын

No.

@spencerwvcmoon Жыл бұрын

Starting to look more,more like my 2010 husaberg fx450 hahaaa we know your gonna mint it!

@hermitrob5481 Жыл бұрын

Where do we send pics and vids? Didn't see a spot on the website

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, please send them to alec@slavensracing.com.

@mulullama Жыл бұрын

Probably a bit niche of a question but how does a 2012 xcw frame compare to the 17-23 tpi or current gen frame?

@Danman1972 Жыл бұрын

Its better, I went from a 13 300xc to a 22 TPI (gas gas). You will notice it. I love both bikes though. Not sure if the TPI having the counter balance just smooths it out more, but it does help. Its not busy and handles well. Took me a bit to get the forks dialed in (find the correct pressure and settings). Very ridable. If I were moving from a 12 though.... I just skip the TPI. You will find better deals. When I went to the 22 I heard the TBI rumblings. Given the motor is great and the chassis is better as well as the new design in stock suspension. I'd hold out for the latest and greatest. Especially if you tend to keep bikes around.

@mulullama Жыл бұрын

@@Danman1972 ah I should clarify..... how different is the flex?

@Danman1972 Жыл бұрын

@@mulullama I don't find the flex much different, but then again I have a XC model (likage) vs. the PDS. They just fit me better. I've run both and the PDS just makes the bike a little taller and I have stumpy legs.

@joeysantos56 Жыл бұрын

That sure is a beauty! I would like to sell my 2018 300 xcw to get one. But can't get a sticker for one in California.

@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953 Жыл бұрын

That sucks dude.

@gregtheos9309 Жыл бұрын

Frame is not as stiff as the 23/24 XC frame? I thought the 24 XCW and the 23/24 XC frames were the same. Are they not the same?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: The XC and XCW frames are different. As far as stiffness, the '24 W chassis is between the new XC and the previous XCW.

@gregtheos9309 Жыл бұрын

@@slaverace1 was not aware. Thank you. Do you find it to be firm but still plush on the rocks and roots?

@mulullama Жыл бұрын

Is it an option to put an aftermarket power mode switch on?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

One of our vendors is working on a map switch. We hope to have it soon.

@baldknobby Жыл бұрын

Buy one for the XC. They are pretty expensive though.

@DirtSuperDave Жыл бұрын

Please let me know when you find a tall seat that fits! not a fan of the stock seat

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

We have 23-24 seats in stock. Give us a call at 719-475-2624.

@DirtSuperDave Жыл бұрын

@@slaverace1 Thanks, I just ordered the Seat Concepts comfort tall from you.

@blackbikeco Жыл бұрын

How does this differ to the 2023 Husqvarna TE300?

@slaverace1 11 ай бұрын

I'm very sorry the content bored you and you fell asleep, but hopefully you got in some good snoring. There is nothing the same except the wheels.

@blackbikeco 11 ай бұрын

@@slaverace1 typo.. meant a 2024 TE300

@DuhYaThink Жыл бұрын

Would you say it would work great for a 170 lb rider?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Stock KTM suspension is for 165-187lb riders including rider gear. The suspension is very firm and will work well for some types of terrain and not so well for others.

@kramyu3391 Жыл бұрын

Is this premix? I just saw a 2t tank filler

@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын

Nope. It’s TBI with oil injection

@Montana_Motorized Жыл бұрын

Same transmission in the 250/300 23-24 XC and 24 XC-W FYI

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: Sorry, your FYI is a mile off. They are not the same transmission.

@Montana_Motorized Жыл бұрын

@@slaverace1 Spare parts finder says they share all the same gears in the transmission. I suppose it could be wrong though. However, the 23-24 XC gear ratio spread is wider than the 17-23 XC-W, so I would assume they share the same trans.

@baldknobby Жыл бұрын

Are older XCW wheels still going to fit?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Yes, you just have to change the spacers. slavensracing.com/product-category/tires-wheels/accessories/

@baldknobby Жыл бұрын

@@slaverace1 So I bought some spacers, they don't fit. The axle AND the dust seals are different. Someone is going to have to make an adapter.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

@@baldknobby This kit allows you to use the new 22mm axle and old wheel. slavensracing.com/shop/20mm-rear-wheel-spacer-seal-conversion-kit-for-23-ktm-hqv-by-enduro-engineering/

@johnbaker5263 Жыл бұрын

How tall are you Jeff?

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

6'3" and shrinking.

@jangaardh Жыл бұрын

Do the Evo 3 pegs fit the new frame? They didn’t fit my 23 xc300

@Affadimond Жыл бұрын

What pegs did he say I couldn't understand what brand they were

@twostroker56 Жыл бұрын

Fastway Evo 4

@jangaardh Жыл бұрын

Evo 3 don’t fit on the new frame to my knowledge. Still waiting on a new version for my 23 xc300. Unless you know otherwise ?

@cencalsupras 8 ай бұрын

What is your height? I am 6'1

@slaverace1 8 ай бұрын

6'3

@timhenrywoodard9583 Жыл бұрын

Motor sound like it’s awesome! However, they’ve cheaped out on a lot of features. No machined triple clamp, removed the map switch, etc. Pretty hard to spend $11k on a bike and than add a bunch of upgrades. Beta is putting out a great product for less.

@BrickBike Жыл бұрын

My ‘23 didn’t come with machined triple clamps or a map switch either. Not sure why people are acting like it was dropped in ‘24 🤷‍♂️

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: They have not cheaped out on anything. It's a very high quality bike, better quality than any other non-KTM brand. XCWs have never come equipped with map switches or machined triple clamps. They use forged clamps for more comfort.

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

@@damarpo5467 Hello: I have to draw a line in the sand when you call KTMs crap. Really? Beta's are years, maybe a decade, behind KTM's technology. The Beta 300 is well known for engine bearing failure issues, way down on power and has very poor suspension. If you want to ride one that is fine with me but no need to get nasty and bash a bike you have never ridden. The `24 KTM 300XCW (and similar HQV & GasGas models) is by far the best off-road bike on the market. Best technology, best power, best suspension components, best fueling and best handling...period.

@robandrae9933 Жыл бұрын

Geeze....Jeff you need a Snickers bar..

@slaverace1 Жыл бұрын

Hello: I'm sorry, you must have intended to click on one of the many snowflake channels. I gave the new bike kudo after kudo after kudo yet I need a Snickers bar? Really? FYI: I prefer Payday candy bars. Please send me a box.