How much is it?

How has general maintenance and upkeep costs?

The mechanical components on the other hand...

@douglasbullet6456 Also perfectly fine. This isn't a 2006 Range Rover.

What would you say about the acceleration and power of the 4cylinder motor.? The one I would be getting.

Did you purchase or lease yours?? and why

What about the Discovery?

the Discovery rear fenders "trunk area" looks so weird, almost as if it was squeezed or I don't know... don't like it at all. The defender is the best looking car for now. @@lexxlars5762

​@@lexxlars5762 Discovery much better (except back door). Def interior is ugly.

I’ve had both. The 90 is really cool don’t get me wrong. But man it was tough if you had to put anything in the hatch have the one tan now with the in-line six. Love it.

Ngl i feel like this is the best update any company has done in a long time

They look nicer but the older ones felt more honest, the new one feels like a wealthy CEO pretending to be a rural farmer.

@@anusername8350 true, they're def trying to compete with g-wagons directly now

⁠ except it’s not

No. They should have kept the old box design just like the G-Wagon

They are reliable. Actually it's pretty rare to find a car that is unreliable it's mostly one model that ruins reputation and even that "unreliable" model isn't that bad. This defender is very reliable i would say.

Trust me that in-line six has plenty of HP. But yeah. I can see why you’d like that V8. Myself also. Quad tips are bad ass also.

@@Mark-bu2ib Touche' (smile)

They have. They aren't unreliable anymore. The issue is one model few years back ruined reputation of rr but that doesn't make every model unreliable. And honestly even that model wasn't that unreliable i would say.

@@dkdanis1340 Sadly is not one model and sadly is not just reliability. It's also the transverse engine that forces you (the mechanic) to lift the entire engine out to change the timing chains. For a cost of above 3k. I wanted to buy an Evoque, but out of 4 mechanics, all told me to run. It's also problems with the EGR valve, it's also having to change the oil at a LR dealer every 10k km unless you want problems. It's a lot of stuff. Ofc if you lease it or are rich and only buy new, keep 3 years and 60k km and then sell it, then no problems, buy 2.

Can you enlight me? please, what´s off with the Defender?

How long though? Wife bought a 24 x dynamic inline 6. don’t give me wrong. I love my gladiator and put a lot of mods on it and work. When I drive that thing, however, it’s like I’m in my recliner in the living room. With power.

I mean, I own (not leased) a 2023.5 Defender 130 X-Dynamic SE... So yea I can afford it. @@johnzenkin1344 Its not some sort of industry secret that any land rover out of warranty will be a money pit. The bottom line is things do fail over time and it'll be expensive to repair when it does. I've been apart of all of the defender groups and forums and there are recurring issues though far fewer than I've noticed in the big boy Range Rovers. As a result. I did choose to buy one and a JLR Extended Warranty. I've no doubt I'll need it. I've had it for just under a year now and its already spent 4 weeks at the dealership to replace a heater core due to coolant leaking. Long term is anyone's guess. Its certainly built at a higher/tougher standard than your usual Land Rover, and has less crap added on than a Range Rover... so perhaps its the happy medicum. But between the expenses outta warranty that are inevitable and the resale values that plummet outta warranty... yea I do anticipate long term headaches. As I said above though. I love the damn thing and I dont regret the choice. I've just accepted the future headache that I'll likely have to endure and am prepared for it.

Typical Toyota fanboy comment 😂 these new defenders have proved to be plenty reliable and, clearly, out of your price range. Otherwise, why would you hate on it so much for no reason?

@@stoneystreamz2166 ps- i didnt like the 300 cruiser either. The 200 was better

@@simonhjc i just don’t understand the LR hate tho. They’ve had some unreliable ones mainly in the past, but their new vehicles have overall been really good.

It's reliable especially new ones. The issue is one model few years back ruined reputation but that doesn't make every range rover unreliable. I would say even that unreliable model is not that unreliable.

@@dkdanis1340No, they’re all unreliable. Some models are worse than others. Spotty reliability at best. I’m a fanatic and have owned 4 different Land Rovers. The last reliable Land Rovers were the Series Land Rovers, shown at 2:27 on this video. I own one of those too.

Not true, they are not all unreliable. Defenders are excellent vehicles. I have a 2009 Defender 110, had it for 8 years and use it as my daily drive. It’s done 127k miles and been almost faultless. Only one issue in all those years - cost me £800. Other than that super cheap to service and run - tough as nails. Genuinely great vehicle - and now I’m looking to take the plunge with the new model.

The topic is new vehicles...not a 2009 model (based on 30-year-old technology and manufacturing practices). All JLR products have ranked near the bottom of EVERY reliability survey worldwide for the past 10 years at least. @@Maudiecat1

@@Maudiecat1 Yes that’s the spotty reliability i referred to in my comment. Many owners report lots of problems-others, none! Your Defender descended from Series Land Rovers and therefore share simplicity in design which is a key characteristic for reliability.

Wrong.. The bottom seat filps up, and they fold flat.. you don't know what you are talking about 🤡

It’s a true English design taken on from the old landie. The Chinese can’t design anything without plagiarising true quality design.