2024 Normal N5 Tier list & Where to use + Builds Review! by Seiishizo

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2024 Normal N5 Tier list & Where to use + Builds Review! by Seiishizo - Summoners War

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This is an overall tier list, so it's not hard to focused on RTA, but it still has an RTA bias. Of course same as any tier list, this is based on my opinion, so feel free to disagree.
Final result is posted on reddit: / 2024_ld5_elemental_n5_...
2024 LD version: • 2024 LD Nat 5 Tier Lis...
2024 Elemental Version: • 2024 Normal N5 Tier li...
2023 LD5 Tier list: • 2023 LD Nat 5 Tier lis...
2023 Normal Nat 5 Tier List: • Normal Nat5 Tier list ...
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
4:00 - Valkyrja
5:30 - Dragon
8:30 - Chimera
11:00 - Phoenix
12:45 - Archangel
14:30 - Oracle
18:20 - Occult girl
22:20 - Hell lady
25:35 - Dragon knight
28:35 - Monkey king
31:20 - Beast monk
33:40 - Pioneer
36:25 - Ifrit
37:00 - Polar queen
40:15 - Sea emperor
43:05 - Desert queen
44:45 - Fairy King
47:10 - Panda
49:00 - Unicorn
51:20 - Paladin
53:00 - Dryud
55:25 - Lightning emperor
57:20 - Cannon girl
58:00 - Demon
1:00:50 - Beast Rider
1:03:00 - Art Master
1:06:05 - Striker
1:08:30 - Slayer
1:10:20 - Onmyouji
1:12:30 - Mage
1:14:15 - Sky surfer
1:16:50 - Totemist
1:18:40 - Weapon master
1:20:45 - Shadow caster
1:22:55 - Hollyberry
1:23:50 - Pure Vanilla
1:25:40 - Puppeteer
1:27:25 - AC Units
1:32:15 - Indras
1:33:25 - Devil Maiden
1:34:10 - Dokkabi Lord
1:35:40 - Angel Twins
1:36:35 - Battle Angel
1:39:39 - Adjustments and final review

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@Garrison8900 4 ай бұрын

Whos here after they dropped the free pick nat 5 event😂😂😂

@kevininocencio7548 4 ай бұрын

Looooool me

@lorenmixwell787 4 ай бұрын

already 😂

@HoganThompson 3 ай бұрын

Yup

@rogerroger6864 3 ай бұрын

lol i go back here everytime i summoned a nat 5, popped a blessing and also this new nat 5 event lol HAHA

@suwandiloo21 3 ай бұрын

Me hahaha And then i choose rica 🤣🤣

@smokinquack89 7 ай бұрын

SO helpful! Thanks for making this. Truly helps with the new pick Nat 5 event and also verifies i have almost all low tier Nat5s and missing all the premium ones :(

@frznembo 6 ай бұрын

I'll be honest: I skipped to the end to see what are the best champions I have and then looked at the chapters to get an idea of their use and rune-sets. Thank you for all the tips. Great work

@anewfuture Ай бұрын

As someone returning to the game after a ~9 month break, this video was a very useful refresher on how good mons are right now. Thank you for making it.

@Seiishizo Ай бұрын

Happy to hear that :)

@ReflectionsofChristianMadman 7 ай бұрын

Why did you skip the fusions? You said everyone should get them, but I think placing them on the tier list would show just how good they are and further your point that everyone should fuse them.

@Speed30777 7 ай бұрын

Yes i agree but still very helpful video

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

fair enough, will keep that in mind for the next rotation to place em in

@seanickelskiptech5569 7 ай бұрын

I agree with your thought process however, the fact that they are attainable regardless makes sense that they arent in the video. Maybe a separate video showcasing builds and comps would be more practical.

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

@@seanickelskiptech5569 true, but those would be a lot more meta depending and waaaaaaaay too many units to talk about everything haha

@lennartstockl5826 3 ай бұрын

I missed the talking about Labyrinth in the pve related stuff. Especially with the dragon knights. Leo makes speed limit stages free and Chow makes the water boss, the most obnoxious miniboss free. I saw Eladriel and Ariel in my guild leaders auto team in Tarta Hell.

@joshuaforce9939 7 ай бұрын

Watched the whole thing! One note for me personally: Jamire I would rate even higher because his s3 is irreplaceable. There's no other unit that does it the way he does and he enables 2 fast lab boss teams even with crappy runes. But there are way more usecases for him though since he can be used in R5 speed teams, Toa/H/hell AND pvp. For that reason I would place him in 95 personally. (Not to mention the universal speed lead!)

@red_dll 7 ай бұрын

Sweet, I love this type of content! Thank you Seii, I hope you'll have a fantastic year 2024.

@michaelchronister8395 5 ай бұрын

Watched the entire video, great information. I've been playing for 9 years and I feel very stuck so your info is very helpful!

@Larkian 7 ай бұрын

Personal notes that weren't mentioned. Eladriel: another extra usage would be for Lab against Tartarus and Bomb stages when paired with another reviver. Chow: should be slightly higher since he's one of the few units that can solo Water Lab boss. Laika: very good early game since it has the potential to solo Giant boss and make a very consistent Giant Abyss Hard first team. Leo: he just ignores a whole lab floor mechanic making it very trivial to clear but not high prioirity very early. Psamathe: alternative build I like to use is Will + Nemesis on offense when I need a 33% lead, specially against AD Psamathe. since he gets a follow up after enemy Psama revive. Feng: very good for early safe teams for Ellunia B5

@Larkian 7 ай бұрын

I'll finish this notes: Douglas: nice lead and frontliner in R5 and frotlier in Wind Rift. Shizuka: nice option for buffer in Toa Hell teams, specially with Fedora to refresh Endure buff, Nana: better reviver than Eladriel for Lab Bomb stages since she can self revive and trivialize the stage. Also nice option for safe Fire Rift teams since she can fully stack each time she or any ally kills the mini monsters in some of the boss attacks. Aaliyah: better option than Amelia for Toa Hell Bolverk teams but for Siege amelia can ocasionally be better with the full cleanse. Nora: insane damage for Toa Hell and nice stripper + little heal for Toa Hard and Hell. Dominic: I personally use it as a nice tanky damage unit with single target damage and heal block in Interserver and some siege. I think Feng is better and safer, at least in early accounts, for Ellunia.

@marielcarey4288 6 ай бұрын

Who else can solo laby leos hell?

@HolySpicoli 5 ай бұрын

@@marielcarey4288 probably Rigel, Jager, and MHW

@marielcarey4288 5 ай бұрын

@@HolySpicoli I don't think they can, leos ignores cc immunity, Chow only works I'm pretty sure because of the self cleansing

@HolySpicoli 5 ай бұрын

@@marielcarey4288 i never realized, thought it just ignored the immunity buff. that's crazy.

@richhornie7000 7 ай бұрын

There's a use for Tiana in PVE. It's called toa hell, the counter or immunity stages where you really need to strip everything else or you might get wiped

@Booster_pack Ай бұрын

For Teranes i think his pro over Eladriel is the fact that he comes back to life after a cleave, then he can res a unit, whereas Eladriel would just die. I tried testing and Eladriel failed more often for full on stall teams.

@Aokimarcel 7 ай бұрын

pretty useful video, was able to learn a lot from it, thanks! will help me on my future blessing pops, and decide who to build, how and where to use them!

@emperorggs3248 7 ай бұрын

Watched the whole video, I agree with some, disagree with some, probably comes down to the stage of the game that we're at. Good content as always

@Kindannomitu 7 ай бұрын

Happy New Year bro! Thanks for taking your time for this massive tier list!!

@FirebladeX1989 2 ай бұрын

the wind Indra is actually pretty strong, it can double its own speed and dmg is speed based, nukes 30k dmg AOE krits that apply branding. the base attack cleanse buffs and jumps over to same attribute monsters.

@Seiishizo 2 ай бұрын

I've seen very few people use it, but it has potential yea.

@graemetang4173 7 ай бұрын

Watched the whole video, really like this content trying to give a more general description of the units. Will absolutely be recommending for newer players in my guild as the choose your nat5 event progresses haha

@user-ds1fd2rm4p 5 ай бұрын

i skipped to the end, SUmmoners community value your expert onion

@deadlydrain1345 7 ай бұрын

Dude Beth skill 3 changed she doesnt do the strp block skill but reduces the atb for each debuff on a certain amount. Since she applies a def break with that skill the enemy will have atleast one debuff and if despair procs then 2 debuffs she is very usefull now

@denmander 7 ай бұрын

She still blocks cleanse too so it's two possible debuffs she can apply on that skill for more atb reduction.

@michael199820 7 ай бұрын

I feel like zaiross is a bit overrated, and jamire feels a lot more versatile in general. In arena zaiross is good but I wouldnt necessarily say he is strictly better than jamire there, and same for siege offense. But jamire can still be used in RTA and in all kinds of PVE content such as early giants as max hp damage dealer and atk break and slow for safety on top of resets. Hes also good in toa hell for the same reason. On top of that he is really good for some of the speed R5 teams, while usually not the absolute fastest the rune requirements on the jamire R5 speed teams are much lower (with shizuka katarina). Personally id put zaiross at like 80-85 and jamire at 90-95.

@user-iz8dk5tt9l 7 ай бұрын

I agree completely, as someone who owns all 3 dragons.

@user-vw2sy5zr2b 7 ай бұрын

I really wish they’d buff the devil maidens and make them more usable

@some_chad 3 ай бұрын

Been binging your vids while grinding, cheers bro!

@Seiishizo 3 ай бұрын

appreciated!

@benliles57 4 ай бұрын

Finished watching, thanks for video, definitely helpful with the choose your new nat5 event

@300kobyl 3 ай бұрын

I returned to SW after like 8 years and pretty funny to see that MANY of monsters that were considered OP or really really strong, are now pretty weak and many of the "trash" nat 5, like Juno, are considered really good

@marielcarey4288 6 ай бұрын

I think you should talk a bit more about Labyrinth with the monsters

@Shiki0414 2 ай бұрын

I'm a new player, like 9th day. I didn't reroll. These guides are awesome, thank you. I just finished toa normal and got fire battle angel (had a blessing coz my 3rd nat 5 was a dupe layle and in the choices it was ANOTHER layla and fire battle angel lol

@rogerroger6864 6 ай бұрын

So much effort in this video! Thankyou seiishizo!!

@joshgruv8005 4 ай бұрын

Wait wait wait, Velajuel skill 3 is full group cleanse PLUS immunity PLUS 30% attack bar boost. 2nd skill hits hard with high def AND heals whole team @ 15% hp and skill 1 is a stripper. Cmon bro bump him up.

@robertobronzetti7491 7 ай бұрын

Happy new year and thanks for the big guide! i didn't check the whole of it and you might have already said something about it, but where are the steel commander? don't know if miss some other units

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

yes those are the ezio's

@robertobronzetti7491 7 ай бұрын

oh i see, thank you xD@@Seiishizo

@unorthodoxgaming101 3 ай бұрын

Very helpful video, with a lot of explanation. Appreciate it!

@karanokyoukai1680 7 ай бұрын

Thank you Seii and Happy new year

@Unlucky403 14 күн бұрын

starting new with jjk collab right now, have any patches changed this list much?

@Mauvias92 3 ай бұрын

Always nice to know that the only 2 nat5s i have built ( recently started playing ) are below average 😆

@90darknes 7 ай бұрын

What the fuu ^^ I just recognized I watched the whole Video when he said write in the comments if you watched the whole video xD Nice content keep up 🖤👌

@MsZombiechews 7 ай бұрын

Hey could anyone help, im a returning player i came back since the release of steam. i havent played for maybe 7 years id say im mid game atm can farm gaints and dragons b10 havent really gone into the other content as of yet. but I bought a transcended scroll and have the choice between water twin angels or water valkyrja. what should i pick

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

water valk is very strong in meta atm for Siege offense, Arena defense. Water twin angel is a unit that kind of needs a buff to be good. but we won't know when that will happen.

@MsZombiechews 7 ай бұрын

Thanks my guy ❤ @@Seiishizo

@LILPHILSTAR 5 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo "needs a buff to be good" in other words it sucks

@easyologist01 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the tier list. Watched the entire thing from start to end

@R0m0n3 7 ай бұрын

Jamire is very god for pve as well it can be on fight runes with cd.

@fazzco5236 3 ай бұрын

glad i saw this after finally getting a nat 5 . The fire twin angels

@81CCCP90 3 ай бұрын

Haven't played in 3 years, my old guild buddy messaged me told me about the free nat5 event so here I am again... so many updates and new mons, seems everything changed since I've been gone

@Seiishizo 3 ай бұрын

yea loads and loads of good QoL updates in last 3 years

@ShadowWolf9891 7 ай бұрын

I've been using fire devil maiden for Toah and it feels like a budget Rica with the DOT's. I'd put her around 70.

@deviouz.1288 7 ай бұрын

Wow, u placed Parjanya the water Indra on 55 :( My fav Unit bruh xD Hes good in Rta with the right team and he scales with def so hes a really good tank dmg dealer He Provokes, he comes back and he have Lifesteal. U can use him in Siege and laby too :S hes very good

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

Tbh i never saw anyone use it with succes hence my placement of the unit. but maybe i undervalue him :P

@Shanks_91 6 ай бұрын

All Indiras a big Trash Most the Wind… Zero dmg 😂😂😂😂

@ChoperJoJo 5 ай бұрын

i just started using oliver for arena ofense D: he's kinda cool

@user-iz8dk5tt9l 7 ай бұрын

Jamire is perfect for giant 12 though. His skill 2 hits for like 100k with mediocre runes

@Treyz44 4 ай бұрын

When I was new to summoners war I summoned 3 Camilla's and I fed the extras for blessings....the pain

@behamiltonsrful 5 ай бұрын

I use Tomoei in TOA to spread DOTS, freeze, stuns, etc and lock down the teams opponents. I guess it is just me, she pretty much locks things down for me.

@jonnyg5813 4 ай бұрын

Hey you mentioned where Odin would be useful, but didn't say anything about runes. I'm a returning player and just pulled him, and I was wondering what rune sets you would prioritize on him. Thank you and great vid!

@Seiishizo 4 ай бұрын

just dmg and 85 cr with some spd where he can take turns. it kinda depends where you want to use him

@alnoobus1045 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the vid! How would one set up a Toa(H) team with Charlotte, Cheongpung and Bellenus or any combination of the 3?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

those 3 + veromos + Tyron or something kinda depends on the stage

@PlazDreamweaver 7 ай бұрын

Water Indra placed way too low. Definitely one of the much better units in pvp content and can be used in ToA/H and Fire Beast as well. Hopefully he will see more play since he's very underused rn. Still, if he continues to be underrated, he may get the Oliver treatment, so maybe we should underrate him.

@sedfreymendoza6002 3 ай бұрын

What part of the "my opinion." Thing you dont understand?

@lukass3692 3 ай бұрын

idc how good Vela is now. I’ve wanted to summon him since 2015😂 Finally mine!

@js9522 Ай бұрын

Bloodya is a good Rica alternative if you don't have her.

@Seiishizo Ай бұрын

correct, its just bad vs camilla cus of crit awakening

@danielginn516 7 ай бұрын

watched whole video a-z, great content!

@TheGenosix 2 ай бұрын

this is helpfull but there is missing nat 5 (maybe fusion ones idk) and its sad af

@dmbpsychonaut 3 ай бұрын

Definitely annoyed with the redditor who told me to pick wind Dokkabi Lord over wind Battle Angel from the nat5 event (I know I can change it once but I don't think I'm getting back the devils I already invested). They said the Battle Angel is past her prime, yet here one of the top players is ranking her on top of the tier list, with the unit reddit recommends at the bottom. I quit during the cookie collab but had every rgb5 (including most cookies) at that point, so stuff after Battle Angels are the only options for me.

@benjaminmesserer2471 7 ай бұрын

1:34:00 Why is Bloodya soooo far below Rica? I mean, they have kinda similar skills...?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

because rica does it so much better + her s1 is just so strong

@stevezcxc1 7 ай бұрын

Great video! But seems to be missing pudding princess and macaron guard?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

I placed the cookie versions

@Antiar Ай бұрын

Just got fire hacker. Any opinion??

@Seiishizo Ай бұрын

very strong unit for dot team in arena offense

@gustavosanchez2530 7 ай бұрын

Saw the whole thing sadly most of my new mobs are on the bottom tier

@joshuabutterbaugh1227 7 ай бұрын

This video is amazing. Ty

@dakotanelson9205 7 ай бұрын

Just daying definitely seems like seanb is just making the same videos you are after you do it lol 😂

@Booster_pack 27 күн бұрын

But why is wind dokaebi not mentioned in arena defense when i see him 80% on every team that are 3 gold stars upwards

@Seiishizo 27 күн бұрын

wasn't meta back then when I made the video yet.

@user-qr8br9oj7k 7 ай бұрын

battle angels?

@infernale7949 7 ай бұрын

Yes, I watched it completely. Good speedrun.

@Math1ussss 7 ай бұрын

F for me, new player and I got the water Indra :( :( thanks for the video!

@PlazDreamweaver 7 ай бұрын

Not an F. He does not know what he's talking about with the Parjanya. You have one of the better units in the game. Easy 85. But you won't need him until you can farm ToA and go into PvP content. He's usable for PvE to keep other allies alive if you're mid-game, but mostly he's an outstanding PvP unit.

@davidlemire530 4 ай бұрын

gladiatrix win any good ? (eleni )

@meowc4t869 3 ай бұрын

I just got Byungcul, is it worth to build?

@Seiishizo 3 ай бұрын

yes

@viniciusreno8516 7 ай бұрын

Wind Bayek is just a joke, weakest nat5 in the game, dude’s weaker than some nat2’s. My only hope is for Com2us to Give him the “wind nat5” treatment xD (buff the hell out of him)

@benjaminmesserer2471 7 ай бұрын

bad, but not that bad

@demortal8864 4 ай бұрын

aaand were back

@kendalciftci7500 7 ай бұрын

Taranys didnt see him. A Good defense Monster

@truff96 7 ай бұрын

Watched the whole thing.

@wallyreichard9879 7 ай бұрын

They reverted the Shizuka cd S2 nerf I believe.

@Felix-zy1rc 26 күн бұрын

Juno on low res right?

@Seiishizo 26 күн бұрын

yes no res needed

@Felix-zy1rc 22 күн бұрын

Thanks @@Seiishizo

@casor5693 4 ай бұрын

leo or camilla ? :S

@itaser6421 7 ай бұрын

like there is any of last three 5nat monster on 75+ or above, they should rly stop making new nat 5

@Cravior 7 ай бұрын

Water dokaebi

@jonyongkkkl5119 7 ай бұрын

devil maiden family looks ugly and bad.

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

yea oddly enough all new units are pretty shit until one gets an oliver treatment :P

@marcoliaw6799 7 ай бұрын

i watched the whole thing

@Alex-ik3tr 7 ай бұрын

I hardly disagree with water Indra beeing this low - should be 80 at least 👍

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

I never see it being used tbh, so i don't feel like he does much. and when its in AD it doesn't do much it just stalls the match a bit on long animations

@PlazDreamweaver 7 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo That's probably because not many people have him? I was lucky enough to pull him and if you use him right (it's not hard) he is a very annoying disruptor and creates an easy win for the test of your team in pvp offense and defense content. Very annoying to play against. Water Indra is a very slept on unit. I think once more people actually pay attention to him, he'll rise in popularity.

@marielcarey4288 6 ай бұрын

"All fusions worth getting" even the dark dookaebi lord? 🤔

@Seiishizo 6 ай бұрын

after buff maybe yea

@ShiekSw 7 ай бұрын

Comment Watched the whole thing o.O

@lektr7509 7 ай бұрын

Didnt include desert warrior in the tier list?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

AC units = desert warrior

@JulianJohnston919 2 ай бұрын

Desert Warrior?

@Seiishizo 2 ай бұрын

Not a great unit at that moment

@JulianJohnston919 Ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo ah ok, thanks for the reply pal.

@glaucobenevolo9553 7 ай бұрын

I watch the all video good video pls nat 5 LD

@abdelcarcamo 7 ай бұрын

Please put Eleanor in garbage tier for the ld vid, so she can get the Lora treament.

@Ytremz 7 ай бұрын

What do you want her to do bro. Grant free wins?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

Hahaha, she's not as bad as some other lds, so I got to be fair ^.^

@brookenavin7466 5 ай бұрын

Can’t lie you skipped a ton of pve viability on a lot of these nat5’s, you didn’t even mention momo in early game or pve, she carries because of her passive, dealing over 30k aoe hits with terrible runes

@Seiishizo 5 ай бұрын

Personally i dont feel momo is that great, not sure where you would use her that not a F2p unit would simply do same or better. Maybe thats for the "other ton of units" as well. But as always with my tier lists, you are allowed to disagree ^.^

@leophrix Ай бұрын

I have the fusions but not included wtf

@Seiishizo Ай бұрын

Will do next time around :P

@graveyardgod1104 5 ай бұрын

Where is Lionel?

@Seiishizo 5 ай бұрын

water ezio

@demonslayer4951 4 ай бұрын

Where are the pudding princess?

@sofwanj2520 3 ай бұрын

Katarina is bad?😢

@jfree672 7 ай бұрын

occult girls are so broken as a whole wtf

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

correct haha

@user-vw2sy5zr2b 7 ай бұрын

They are all super good

@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273 7 ай бұрын

Archangels deserve more love lol... A team with Feng, Amelia and a crit damage Vela is still very solid. But beside that, great job as usual...

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

feels like a tricky team that lacks healing to me, but yea can be used however is often lacking something.

@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273 7 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo pretty much carried by feng in anycase.

@ckfei3436 3 ай бұрын

Battle angel?

@mitchellluong 3 ай бұрын

1:36:38

@surr3ald3sign Ай бұрын

Saying someone could use camilla early game is insanely out of touch 😂 she cant even wipe her own ass until shes on g1+ runes and shes not "good" until g3 runes, before that shes too squishy to do literally anything and pve is all abt damage over anything else which she doesnt do much of

@Seiishizo Ай бұрын

I disagree. she's great in siege offense early game. and great on arena defense early game.

@Booster_pack 2 ай бұрын

i like more of these vids

@Seiishizo 2 ай бұрын

Will do :)

@SizzlingiceQueen 7 ай бұрын

Where does pudding princess fit? I'm loving my Adriana.

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

thats the pure vanilla cookie

@SizzlingiceQueen 7 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo Thank you 😇

@spig3547 3 ай бұрын

I have wind Ryu he 1 shots Camilla.

@terrancereed9904 3 ай бұрын

I didn't watch i listened so for future reference PLEASE stop saying "this thing" I had to come back to my phone to know what "this thing" was Everytime

@Seiishizo 3 ай бұрын

will keep it in mind

@Imixdrnks79 5 ай бұрын

did I totally miss the pudding princess?

@Cravior 7 ай бұрын

Battle angels

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

Added them at the end, but yea originally missed them

@DJPao86 7 ай бұрын

Rica 100, Karnal 85 ... ok.

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

rica needs 0 runes to do dmg and is consistent in the debuffs

@DJPao86 7 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo im not denying that, but even in pvp, she is a 2% pick in RTA, zero use in normal arena. She is good in early game ToAH, but ToAH can be cleared with so many other units, including non nat5s. If the early game has so much weight on your tier list, ok then, but imho i would consider 100 as "units that change the game in a way"

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

she's great in normal arena with amber. she's great in siege offense. two places where i wouldn't put karnal. Also karnal is a g3 good unit in rta, rica shines more in lower ranks.