2024 RockShox SID and SID SL Ultimate Fork Quick Check, 29", 44mm Offset

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2024 RockShox SID and SID SL Ultimate Fork Quick Check, 29", 44mm Offset

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LoveMTB

Күн бұрын

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@GokkunGuru 11 ай бұрын

Great comparison. I’m running SID SL Ultimate on my XC. That’s the one with the Race Day damper. Love it. It’s light and works well.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Yeah no problems with those or the Select that we've been using.

@mikicastan 6 ай бұрын

How is it in long term? Is it reliable?

@donnovicki9771 11 ай бұрын

Great review. Always look forward to an in depth review that you do. Best presenter on Y/T. Cheers

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Thank you Don🤜

@aneczka2114 11 ай бұрын

Thank sram for doing forks in another great color!

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

It is actually a nice color😊

@xoslic 3 ай бұрын

Great review ! Interestingly my 2024 SID Ultimate 3P Remote included a hard screw-on mudguard, not a plastic one. No sag scale though. I think I have a crush on that Blue Crush paintjob. 💙

@LoveMTB 3 ай бұрын

😆 I like that color also. Maybe they change the mudguard now? I like the hard one better BTW

@glennmorgan8691 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great review!!! I always wished that fox would use the sag gradient markers like rockshoks do,sad to see rockshoks moving away from this.They both look like nice forks though.Cheers!!!!

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Yeah right? Cost savings maybe? Who knows. Thanks Glenn

@PElfama 7 ай бұрын

i just installed one of the 110mm SID SLs on my mtb no. 4, i like the light weight and firm yet smooth dampering. i have 4 hardtail mtbs, one with Fox Factory 21 and one with DT Swiss F232 one, my personal preference is DT Swiss F232 one as it's got soft dampering, moderate firmness plus light weight.

@LoveMTB 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@phenofinder9145 11 ай бұрын

Been exclusively on sids since 2001. I love every sid edition

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

🤓

@MTBfixHQ 11 ай бұрын

I wonder what fox will bring to the table once they release a new 34 stepcast, I ride the 2022 version and its blown me away, much better then the 2021 pike ultimate I replaced tbh. The new SID 35 forks seem pretty much the same as before but they fixed the bushing problem which is great, I also like the look of the wider stanchions but I don't know if its just me but I hate the look of the new crown machining, maybe it looks better in real life

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Crown doesn't look that bad but it's accetuated by the blue color which is awesome but I would buy the black 🙂 Fox eems to be working on a reverse crown fork for XC from the few spy shots I've seen this summer. I don't know wbout that, I usually don't like reverse crown forks. At all.

@MTBfixHQ 11 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB OMG I hope its not true! Reverse crown forks as so fugly lol

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Time will tell...@@MTBfixHQ

@XCRiders 11 ай бұрын

After the bushing issues on the last model I switched to Fox step cast

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Not all of them had issues we've been using the Select for 2 years now, zero issues. But te 34SC is a solid choice for sure!

@quinncolby 4 ай бұрын

Best review so far!

@elbiemetoo 11 ай бұрын

My new Trek Supercaliber gen 2 came with the new Sid sl. Works great. Better than the new Fox sc 34 and very easy setup. Mine has remote lockout which greatly increases the functionality when doing any smooth climbing. Great video. Thanks

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info! And enjoy that rocket of a race bike🤘

@nimbuscycles2354 11 ай бұрын

How does it work better?

@elbiemetoo 11 ай бұрын

@@nimbuscycles2354 all I had to do was set the sag , take it to a rough trail and adjust the rebound for my style of trail riding. Thereafter, I check the shock pressure about every 3 rides. That’s it. Easy peasy. I am getting the full 110 mm of travel on big drops. Couldn’t be happier.

@nimbuscycles2354 11 ай бұрын

@@elbiemetoo Sounds simple. Did you have trouble with a new fox sc 34? What were the problems?

@elbiemetoo 11 ай бұрын

@@nimbuscycles2354 no problems. But after a lot of fussing around with the sag, rebound, and air volume spacers , I just couldn’t get it in that spot where I could use the full travel (120mm) without it being too mushy for anything except rough terrain. It would have been fine until I got this rock shock ultimate which fit that sweet spot with minimal fuss. This is all personal preference I’m sure.

@elbiemetoo 9 ай бұрын

I’m running 2.35 Maxxis tires with plenty of clearance on the SC gen 2.0

@ovidiustoica6342 11 ай бұрын

👍 Hola. Siempre inspirando . Eres de verda un tio q da ilusion a todo. Comentario de un profesional. Me inspiraste mucho. 🏆.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

¡Gracias! Y encantado de ayudar🤘

@NM4500 11 ай бұрын

Love the outtakes

@wojtek606 10 ай бұрын

At the World Cup, competitors ride on Sid SL, Sid 35mm, RockShox Flight Attendant. Blow my mind 😁

@LoveMTB 10 ай бұрын

Yupl lots of Flight Attendant front and rear suspension

@marcoshenrique6363 7 ай бұрын

Vídeo objetivo e bastante didático, e o melhor: legendas em portuguese.🎉

@Lightpat 9 ай бұрын

Hello, I asked myself the same question for my future Supercaliber Gen 2 which will be equipped with the SID SL. I wrote to Sram support and they wrote me this: "The SID SL Ultimate (D1) has a maximum tire width of 60 mm, which corresponds to about a 2.3" tire. It will be best to mount the new tires on your Kovee wheels, then measure the setup once installed in the fork to make sure the necessary clearance is available. Unfortunately, I have no way of confirming clearance. I apologize for not being able to give you an accurate answer. Let me know if you have any Further questions SRAM Rider" support

@LoveMTB 9 ай бұрын

Thankk you for sharing!

@nicholkid 11 ай бұрын

Beautiful fork. Love the color. Grail fork for me.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

It looks awesome indeed

@fpainchaud350 11 ай бұрын

Quite nice those forks! I am more on the trail side and the Pike Ultimate has been my trail fork of choice. On the Enduro bike, I enjoy my Manitou Mezzer!😊

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Got it😊is that the new pike ultimate/ buttercups?

@fpainchaud350 11 ай бұрын

@LoveMTB go it just before the buttercups were introduced 🤔 ! Every time I think about it, I wonder ...

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

@@fpainchaud350 still a good fork but the new generation of FOX seem to have the edge. Or my 2020 B1 Pike😎

@silver_c1oud 11 ай бұрын

i honestly Love the Color of the Blue Sids. but, those bushing issues discourages me from buying the New Sids

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

They should be fixed! Ok sorry more bushing overlap was presented as a feature😊

@marksandoval5361 11 ай бұрын

I hope this new fork solves the bushing play problem of the the previous generation 120mm Sid 35. Nearly every review of a bike with a Sid had to have the fork serviced because of bushing play. There were bikes that I might have bought, like the Transition Spur, but I hesitated because the bike came with a Sid. By the way, the Spur now comes with a Fox 34.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

How would we know?🙄

@eddyfusely503 11 ай бұрын

Great review…the different forks get me so confused…

@phenofinder9145 11 ай бұрын

There is a method to the madness just keep researching

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Options, more options please🙂

@wojtek606 9 ай бұрын

Yeah me too! Can you help me? I want to have a light bike, but the new Debon Air+ makes me wonder. Which version will be better for Supercaliber gen 2 (110 mm)? I am 180cm/76kg and I run marathon and XC as an amateur.

@marekzmazur2077 11 ай бұрын

I just replaced the lowers on my Sid because of bushing play. 😖 I hope they last.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Man oh man....😖

@adammoonface 11 ай бұрын

I'd love to build a light weight modern geo steel or Ti hardtail with the SID ultimate 120mm fork. My bank balance won't let me though....

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

THAT would be sweet!

@gpa1978 7 ай бұрын

I had two 120mm sid ultimate forks and never noticed any play, not even pushing bike against wall, but I currently have a 100mm SL wich do have play, but to be honest...100% unnoticeable when riding

@LoveMTB 7 ай бұрын

Interesting, so your SL is the new 2024 right?

@gpa1978 7 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB no,. I use the "old" 100mm SL(23 model) and the new 120mm (24), I can tell that at least the 120mm does fill little more rigid and linear in compression (wich I belive was the intended desing adjustment)

@LoveMTB 7 ай бұрын

Yes that's also my understanding thanks for sharing your experience!@@gpa1978

@adventureforlife2147 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this in-depth look. Have you seen the 2024 Sid Select yet? I'm trying to set up a bikepacking rig with a 120mm fork. I want a fork that will last 1000's of km without servicing, and is durable. Any thoughts on Ultimate vs Select?

@LoveMTB 9 ай бұрын

Not yet unfortunately! But we've bbeen really happy with the previous gen Select, and if I was to go for the lighter RS it would be this new Ultimate / RaceDay2 damper and avoid the previous gen Ultimate.

@ApexHerbivore 11 ай бұрын

Brand new forks placed on the flagstones. I can't watch

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

You sensitive soul😎

@ridedirtymtb9938 26 күн бұрын

How do you like this fork compared to the stepcast

@LoveMTB 26 күн бұрын

@@ridedirtymtb9938 we do not ride the SID anymore all our XC forks are the Fox SC 34

@davidrae8475 11 ай бұрын

A bit cheap with the fork not coming stock with the bolt-on fender!

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Yeah agree. But maybe decided to ship both with same so ppl don’t see it as a disadvantage for the SL? On the flip side it was probably cheaper🤔

@davidrae8475 11 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB Here in Australia they are a $AU1500 fork and a $AU40 fender... it's tight-ass!

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

@@davidrae8475 same in Canada 😊

@frankschock9981 11 күн бұрын

What's your opinion on the performance?

@LoveMTB 11 күн бұрын

They can fix some of the previous issues w bushing overlap and others, might still have issues with the damper. Otherwise could be ok. BUT all my XC bikes now use Fox 34 SC if that tells you anything…

@frankschock9981 11 күн бұрын

@@LoveMTB I have a 2021 Fox 34 SC Fit4 and I'm not a fan. Too flexy and damping quality is poor. It's fine on smoother xc trails but anything technical feels overwhelmed. Maybe the 2024 SID Select is more reliable with the Charger damper. RaceDay damper uses very little oil volume and might be too much of a comprise to get as light as possible. SID Select still has the upgraded Debonair+ air spring. Just heavier chassis (maybe a little stiffer) and heavier/more reliable Charger damper. Only 150 grams heavier overall.

@xoslic 2 ай бұрын

Do you find the Lock postion to be as rock-solid ass marketed? Mine SID 2024 3pos remote is far from being solid , even softer than Fox SC FIT4 lockout. I tested another brand new very same fork and it is still not fully locked. Very strange. C1 forks are much solid in Lock pos.

@LoveMTB 2 ай бұрын

I think they are like that by design though…

@xoslic 2 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB last weekend I spoke to a SRAM mechanic at UCI XC World Cup . Both generations of Race Day dampers are supposed to be the same as far as the lockout firmness is concerned. So why there're so many SID 2024 forks with such a soft lockout? I'm currently in contact with SRAM service center technician trying to point the exact cause.

@LoveMTB 2 ай бұрын

@@xoslic sounds like you know more about this than I do. What I do know is to stay away and I have Fox 34 SC on all my XC bikes

@ridedirtymtb9938 2 ай бұрын

How do you feel about the extra pedal setting vs the remote lockout open and firm?

@LoveMTB 2 ай бұрын

We use the pedal damper setting in the Fox forks all the time so having it in RC is a welcome addition to

@ridedirtymtb9938 2 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB I’m so used to using a lock out but I can’t seem to find a good place with it. If I add more are it looses that small bump. If I use more tokens it becomes to harsh off the top maybe I’ll try one of these sid’s

@samd6405 5 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@LoveMTB is that the gloss blue? Online photos show it to be much lighter in color. Have you done a comparison video yet to the Fox 34SC?

@LoveMTB 5 ай бұрын

I have not, and the lighter blue was the previous generation fork🤓

@samd6405 5 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB that’s what I was starting to piece together. That’s a shame…really liked the old school SID blue.

@LoveMTB 5 ай бұрын

@@samd6405 This looks better in my opinion more premium

@samd6405 5 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB maybe…still think the lighter blue is the ‘original’ SID color from the ‘90s. But that’s just me…would love to hear your opinion between the Fox/RS…maybe a future video?

@LoveMTB 5 ай бұрын

@@samd6405 yeah can’t say I have any recollection of the 90s SID. Wasn’t even biking seriously back then. Due to the internal build of their damper I don’t think I’ll actually buy one of these new SIDs to use even though we do need an XC fork. But maybe I’ll get the chance to ride one. You folks will know if that happens

@TheAntoine191 2 ай бұрын

So i have with good working 2021 120mm with no play. I have some damper leaks but it's manageable. I love my 35. Is the new one better in your opinion ?

@LoveMTB 2 ай бұрын

We have the old one, Select model and worked ok, bushings too tight, ok overall. New one has improved on the overlap should not have issues with bushings play, same design of the damper so same leaks can occur...

@TheAntoine191 2 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB The damper has been updated to "charger race day V2" so i think they solved the leak issues, i hope so anyway :S

@koukimonzta 10 ай бұрын

SL for me

@LoveMTB 10 ай бұрын

Not a bad choice🤘

@jiajianhou426 6 ай бұрын

I accidentally ordered the from with remote. But I don’t want the remote, can you remove the remote assembly on the fork? And I want that knob you have.

@LoveMTB 6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you have to replace the damper with thw 2P/ 3P no remote

@emptycl0ud9 11 ай бұрын

Oh wow a Canadian bike KZfaqr. Do you have a Facebook group or something for your subscribers in Toronto?

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I don't, great idea! And welcome🤘

@philhunt1442 5 ай бұрын

currently debating going with the older Sid sl for cost saving and wondering if it will be a noticeable difference compared to the newer sl?

@LoveMTB 5 ай бұрын

I would not go for that one...search for issues with bushings on theose forks, it's all over the forums.

@philhunt1442 5 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB Dang, even the newer 2023 SL ultimate?

@fabianotajiri8811 9 ай бұрын

hi! great work and infos! a doubt in sid 35mm comparing older version... is use same lower or is a different dimensions? I know the bushing spacing are differente, but the lower legs are the same?

@LoveMTB 8 ай бұрын

They're not the same, more sculpted etc. Don't know if they differe internally in any way but they are definitely not the old lowers.

@fabianotajiri8811 8 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB The spacer between The stanchions leg is the same of older? Please.. If you do, do you can measure these? Thanks

@LoveMTB 8 ай бұрын

@@fabianotajiri8811 it’s the same

@ToddNZMTB 11 ай бұрын

Video title spelling mate! The forks look good, nice colour, the square edges are a little odd, not bad odd just different.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for that! The "advantages" of a one-man-band😇 It looks better in person and that blue is really nice.

@SNS1212 11 ай бұрын

Can you get your viewers a deal through that shop?

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

. I always post in the description if I’m able to get that😊 Doesn’t Bicomponents list the SID?

@mikelafferty5253 10 ай бұрын

Oh nice, Im close to the Saugua, got a link to buy?

@mikelafferty5253 10 ай бұрын

founs it, thx

@michaelgalvez5548 11 ай бұрын

Wow Rock shox😊❤😅😮

@wallyedmonds8199 11 ай бұрын

I go to that store lol cool

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

Yeah close by😊

@wallyedmonds8199 11 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB I’m not close , Brantford lol

@celsoedirdesouza8195 11 ай бұрын

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@mikemcintyre8749 10 ай бұрын

For the love of god stop banging the forks together!!! Just as well they are not your forks lol i would be ragin!! Apart from that good review.

@LoveMTB 10 ай бұрын

Fist for the record - no forks have been harmed during this review!🤓 And don’t worry they’re not that fragile or brittle, finish on lowers is pretty hard, great for the application