2024 Subaru BRZ tS First Drive

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Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Күн бұрын

For 2024 Subaru has further refined the light weight sports car feel the BRZ has been known for. With bigger brakes, a revised suspension with new dampers, and stickier tires, this is easily the most fun the BRZ has ever been. It still doesn’t have a turbo, and tS is manual transmission only, but that’s all as it should be.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:20 - Styling
00:55 - tS mechanical changes
02:10 - Engine and transmission
02:29 - Interior
05:24 - How does it drive?
08:59 - Conclusion

Пікірлер: 110
@sshah2545
@sshah2545 7 ай бұрын
Ayyyy, someone finally commented on how high the redline is. Reviewers almost never mention it. I would take a 7500 rpm redline, linear power, and better fuel economy every day over a tiny performance turbo with tons of lag, and a 1000 less revs. This car more than enough power for steer/daily use. TS is a bad buy, but a regular limited and upgrade yourself, but otherwise a great vehicle. I love mine. Drift it every time I drive it.
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
I agree with everything except the comparison to Limited. The price difference between the Limited and TS is actually a discount if you were already planning on upgrading to a big brake kit.
@sshah2545
@sshah2545 7 ай бұрын
@@jaron95 bro.. Mercedes charges 13000 for Carbon Ceramic brakes on its twin turbo v8 cars… Who’s spending more than 7000 on brakes and struts? I can do both, get an exhaust, get tint, get a sexy shift knob, a dash cam, a radar detector and have $1-2k left over. Where/how are you justifying 7000 more for this car?
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
@@sshah2545 United States dollars? I compared the BRZ Limited (MSRP $32.7k) and the BRZ TS (MSRP is $35.4k). I looked up a Brembo brake kit and the front rotors/calipers alone were $4k, let alone the rear. Are there cheaper alternatives? Yes. But we're talking about factory Brembos for less than aftermarket. That said, I still agree with everything else you posted. Full disclosure: I already ordered a TS three weeks ago so my money is right where my mouth is lmao
@sshah2545
@sshah2545 7 ай бұрын
@@jaron95 someone literally said the TS was being priced at 7K above the limited. They should’ve shut their dumb mouths and I will shut mine. At that difference it’s a solid deal, go get it. Enjoy..
@danny2607
@danny2607 6 ай бұрын
Nice to see there are still pure enthusiast drivers out there.
@jlevy31
@jlevy31 7 ай бұрын
The lack of cross-drilled rotors is not a negative for the car. They have a coolness factor of 8 and usefulness of 3.
@2fast2nick
@2fast2nick 6 ай бұрын
ha for sure, all coolness, nothing else.
@smdiori
@smdiori 7 ай бұрын
An IL plate in Sicily is wild lol. Land of Salvatore Lincoln, truly.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 7 ай бұрын
The manual has a different reverse setting because it is a Toyota (Aisin) unit, not a Subaru one.
@stevenfoon2194
@stevenfoon2194 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait for your full review Alex.
@ethompson1822
@ethompson1822 6 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to get mine this spring! I just can’t decide on a color! This will pair great next to my STi and Ascent!
@jt37218
@jt37218 7 ай бұрын
How's the Hitachi shock different from the stock Brz's ? Three videos so far and minimal feedback about this main difference.
@KonkrRoads
@KonkrRoads 7 ай бұрын
Great review!!! “Not a numbers car” - so true, as is your comment that it is pure enjoyment to drive. 🤙
@user-ix9hl4uw5i
@user-ix9hl4uw5i 5 ай бұрын
Are you serious - the guy has NO idea what he's talking about
@KonkrRoads
@KonkrRoads 5 ай бұрын
@@user-ix9hl4uw5i out of curiosity, what do you drive?
@kineticU
@kineticU 4 ай бұрын
Loving the spec. Maybe more than I need. Probably a limited will do but the tS with those yellow calipers and blue looks awesome. Problem is my 2015 limited is still fantastic on the street.
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 7 ай бұрын
I would get a set of light 17x9 wheels and 245 wide tires to make it more interesting.
@kennethwalewski
@kennethwalewski 6 ай бұрын
2024 manual BRZ is definitely NOT slow by any means. It runs 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and 1/4 mile at 13.9 seconds @101MPH those results are faster and better than a 2014 base Porsche Cayman manual which runs 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and 14 mile in 14.2 seconds @102MPH It also way outperforms a base 2014 Porsche Cayman manual from 0 to 130 MPH the 20224 BRZ does it in 26.7 seconds while the base 2014 Porsche Cayman does the same deed in 31.7 seconds! Anyone saying this car is slow is of their rocker, and I have a challenge for you……. I challenge you to find any other car for up to $38,000 brand new and stock that is a naturally aspirated engine car with manual transmission that is faster than this…. I bet you that you can’t name one!
@itstherealone
@itstherealone 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know where you got these numbers from but in principle you are right.
@Jez4prez1
@Jez4prez1 5 ай бұрын
when I drive my BRZ it goes from slow to fast. Sometimes it feels slow, other times, when I shift everything Perfectly, it actually flies and I'm surprised by how fast it is. I'm only a novice, but when driven properly, I feel it's actually pretty fast. My friend who is an amateur race driver said it's actually fast also when he drove it.
@VinRZ
@VinRZ 7 ай бұрын
One thing I found with review channels, don't tell me the spec sheet. Tell me something that Subaru won't tell us. Like What's the spring rates difference? What's the rotors size? WHAT KINDA PADS DOES IT COME WITH? You can't advertise a more track oriented vehicle without telling us the most crucial details. Forget the 215 PS4, they are trash. What can I fit on these factory rims?
@MrBencher446
@MrBencher446 5 ай бұрын
I’m planning on getting one next year. 😊
@lionary
@lionary 7 ай бұрын
Nice!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 7 ай бұрын
Alex, Did you say they flew you to Sicily? Mama mia!!😁
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 7 ай бұрын
Yes, 42 hours on the island and then back home to drive a Disco 110 😂
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 7 ай бұрын
@@AAutoBuyersGuide That's a lot of jet lag.
@sachinnair91
@sachinnair91 5 ай бұрын
Yep and they flew all the reviewers business class through Qatar Airways famous QSuites. Subaru paid a million dollars total for all the round trip flight tickets, 5 star hotel stay, gourmet food etc
@joegugg4129
@joegugg4129 21 күн бұрын
The BRZ has its heritage from the Super FT 300 series
@danny2607
@danny2607 6 ай бұрын
Wow great price for the tS! STI tuned handling, hitachi dampers, brembos Bargain for what it delivers. Well done Subaru! Made a scalpel of a drivers car even sharper❤️. Think I found my next car
@pedroborrero7203
@pedroborrero7203 7 ай бұрын
What I don’t understand is why people talks about the car like Toyota build it when Subaru really is the one who built it
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 7 ай бұрын
It was jointly developed by Toyota and Subaru. It's just that Subaru was more involved in the development process than Toyota.
@rblbatb
@rblbatb 7 ай бұрын
Big fan of this car. Excellent option if you are looking for a sporty daily driver. Buying a low mileage, one owner used BRZ/FRS/86 would be an excellent option for someone looking for a good value.
@seb5945
@seb5945 7 ай бұрын
Subaru PR team chose these locations so that they could go on vacation on the clock.
@CarGuy11
@CarGuy11 7 ай бұрын
No mention of the new suspension??
@lionary
@lionary 7 ай бұрын
You're right that's the principal question!
@antongalazyuk3117
@antongalazyuk3117 7 ай бұрын
Alex, out of curiosity why does the car have Illinois plates in Italy? Also that dash and interior looks right out of a mid 2000s car.
@jmakhlouf422
@jmakhlouf422 7 ай бұрын
Manufacturers’ license plates usually echo where the corporate office is located. Subaru’s regional corporate office is in Itasca, IL. Same seeing TX plates on Toyota of America’s press vehicles.
@KonkrRoads
@KonkrRoads 7 ай бұрын
I love the nostalgia factor of the BRZ interior - this and the whole car is a 1990s flashback to me in a good way. I bought a ‘23BRZ last year to daily drive and it’s be absolute fun 🤙
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
@ragweedmakesmesneeze 7 ай бұрын
Besides the brakes are there any other upgrades/differences between the TS and standard version?
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
The TS suspension uses Hitachi SFRD dampers. And aftermarket Brembo brake kits for the BRZ/86 cost about $4000.
@SonikJesus
@SonikJesus 7 ай бұрын
The BRZ has rally heritage?
@dms2417
@dms2417 6 ай бұрын
The passenger side juice box option adds .01 percent weight increase. I would recommend against it.
@TheSkyline5467
@TheSkyline5467 7 ай бұрын
the BRZ and WRX are among my favorite cars however I'm not sure that these really do enough. It kind of made me do a double take that anyone flew across the world to review them.
@g.r.2985
@g.r.2985 7 ай бұрын
Subaru marketing dept paid him to come, duh! Bet they were hoping for nicer weather though, 😅
@TheSkyline5467
@TheSkyline5467 7 ай бұрын
Well yeah he said that ​@@g.r.2985I'm saying, even with that I'm surprised anyone took them up on it.
@alphabeta8403
@alphabeta8403 7 ай бұрын
1:30 Ugly wheels and tires, should’ve been wider, 235 at least in the rear 5:25 Not a numbers car 8:45 Driving enjoyment 9:30 Cheaper to maintain
@hongchan1202
@hongchan1202 7 ай бұрын
I am good with my '23 GR86
@plurby1703
@plurby1703 7 ай бұрын
Last year without eyesore - best year until the rumored refresh in '25 where it's all Toyota, no Subaru
@rchen404
@rchen404 7 ай бұрын
What does TS stand for?
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
Tuned by STI.
@rchen404
@rchen404 7 ай бұрын
@@jaron95 what does STI stand for? I saw an ad in the free clinic about STIs and that they're bad
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
@@rchen404 Subaru Technica International.
@tednugent1100
@tednugent1100 7 ай бұрын
Great cars, just a bit leery because of the oil pickup / RTV issue
@sshah2545
@sshah2545 7 ай бұрын
Dude.. failure rate is approx 1% of tracked cars, about 0.02% of all of them.. I don’t work for Subaru but I’ll take my chances
@moldyrefrigerator
@moldyrefrigerator 7 ай бұрын
Internet hysteria.
@gregosipow1270
@gregosipow1270 5 ай бұрын
...so you modify it yourself with a premium turbo and upgrade engine internals to handle 400+HP. Power to weight ratio, any questions? No.
@touayaaj84
@touayaaj84 7 ай бұрын
Get a PPK from the old brz and save $$$$
@MWAclanGaming
@MWAclanGaming 6 ай бұрын
The BRZ is by no means slow 😂, yeah by that logic the prius is a sports car too.
@kennethwalewski
@kennethwalewski 6 ай бұрын
2024 manual BRZ is NOT slow it runs 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and 1/4 mile at 13.9 seconds @101MPH those results are faster and better than a 2014 base Porsche Cayman manual which runs 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and 14 mile in 14.2 seconds @102MPH
@mresab1997
@mresab1997 7 ай бұрын
2020 ts w 2018 wing is better
@garrettlake4181
@garrettlake4181 7 ай бұрын
215 rear tires looks so wimpy from the rear. Like the miata.
@boots_n_coots
@boots_n_coots 7 ай бұрын
Nice that Subie/Toyo are continuing to build this. We will all be crying bitter tears when all you can buy is bloated electro-monstrosities.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 7 ай бұрын
Now that the FRS and BRZ are getting a divorce Subaru has the freedom to make an AWD turbo version! And put an unequal length header in, I know it will make it a bit slower but that classic Subie burble with give it some character. Maybe Prodrive will come out with a special edition one day.
@moldyrefrigerator
@moldyrefrigerator 7 ай бұрын
The FRS died back in 2016, try to keep up... It’s called the GR86, and the partnership with the 86 & BRZ isn’t going anywhere.
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 6 ай бұрын
Subaru has already stated they won't be doing an AWD BRZ. They actually considered it and the realized the car is better without it. Guys who want it all don't seem to understand that the only reason Subaru sells any BRZs at all is thanks to its affordable price. Of course they could have given it a turbo, awd, etc but then the price would be over $40k and literally no one would buy it. They understand the need to build a niche car like this to a specific price point that the average enthusiast can actually afford...and that means leaving some unnecessary features out.
@mrslcom
@mrslcom 7 ай бұрын
Not sure the higher price of the tS is justifiable.
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
It's a bargain if you want the features of the Limited and a big brake kit. Aftermarket Brembos cost $4000 just for the front.
@capsule2326
@capsule2326 4 ай бұрын
$40+ ? Great. Just great. lemme see... I'm 52 and if I start saving now, I'll be able to .. yeah no
@immunity4soul
@immunity4soul 7 ай бұрын
The track engine that blows
@monstercameron
@monstercameron 7 ай бұрын
First
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 7 ай бұрын
Wow the TS really jacks up the price of this car just for some ugly brakes. I’d just save $7k and get the GR86. Seems like Subaru spent the TS budget on flying people to Sicily and not on the car
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
@ragweedmakesmesneeze 7 ай бұрын
I found this info from Car and Driver. "Subaru has released pricing for the 2024 BRZ lineup, which adds the performance-focused tS trim. It starts at $36,465, which makes it $2650 more than the Limited ($33,815) and $5150 more than the Premium base model ($31,315)." Furthermore, they note that the TS gets upgraded wheels, brakes AND dampers. $2650 premium over the Limited doesn't seem like a bad deal to me for upgraded/lighter wheels, bigger/more powerful brakes from Brembo and Hitachi dampers. I don't think you could do all that at an independent shop for that kind of money.
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 7 ай бұрын
Seems like you are mixing up things. You seem to be comparing base 2023 GR86 with 2024 BRZ, 2024 model year is going to have a price bump for GR86 as well.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 7 ай бұрын
@@ragweedmakesmesneezeBut you don’t get all the features of the Limited, so why compare it that way?
@adamh8140
@adamh8140 7 ай бұрын
They also did this to WRX TR: add some stuff and you need burn 50k, which is "average" new car price sxxt.
@sshah2545
@sshah2545 7 ай бұрын
Brakes, shocks, pads, and downgraded front knuckles. That’s it, that’s all they changed
@robertcurtis3807
@robertcurtis3807 6 ай бұрын
Too heavy, under powered small engine. Now more expensive than a TESLA.
@espakuz2450
@espakuz2450 5 ай бұрын
Troll
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 7 ай бұрын
why would you not buy a M3 which is faster and cheaper to operate?
@Mexicangunner123
@Mexicangunner123 7 ай бұрын
Cause people don't want to pay $73,000, also GR86/BRZ are great first cars, you can mod and tune easier, some people use them for drifting instead of going "faster" and it won't die randomly on the road💀
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 7 ай бұрын
Because M3 is heavy. Try both on track, twins are much better for learning and improving.
@ak2112
@ak2112 7 ай бұрын
Cheaper to operate… sure.
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 7 ай бұрын
Lol are you guys triggered because you don’t realize it’s model 3
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 7 ай бұрын
@@laloajuria4678 doesn't matter if it's BMW M3 or model 3, it's not a lightweight sports car, it's a heavy sedan made to play numbers game.
@plurby1703
@plurby1703 7 ай бұрын
>subaru eyesore into the trash it goes. Gone is the moniker "sub-30k" with that trash
@TrubaMoya
@TrubaMoya 7 ай бұрын
It's a bullshit car... Underpowered, overpriced, impractical. Who gets it would just get WRX.
@Andrew-zs5tc
@Andrew-zs5tc 7 ай бұрын
It is the only lightweight 2 door sports car available for under $60,000. For most people the WRX, Civic R, Civic SI, Elantra N, GR Corolla, GTI, and Golf R are better options. They give up a lot of the handling for a real back seat and rear doors. For someone who wants a lightweight sports car for under $60,000, the only option is Miata and that is only an option for someone who can live with a 2 seat convertible and is under 5'10.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 7 ай бұрын
why wouldn't people just get brakes and tires themselves for less money
@jaron95
@jaron95 7 ай бұрын
Brembo brakes cost $4000.
@Andrew-zs5tc
@Andrew-zs5tc 7 ай бұрын
Excellent point, however, as Jaron says the brakes cost about the difference between this and the Limited. The Limited has the same tires.
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