does it reduce power steering and feel more like hydrallic steering or does it have some motor simulating things weakly?

@@kalmmonke5037 Nothing makes any electric power steering feel more like hydraulic, literally in any car i have driven. most electric racks have a really weird artificial weight in sport mode and normal is usually the best

@@kalmmonke5037 no, the steering feedback is identical in both modes (very numb EPS) but the heavier weighting in sport mode is great for high speed stability and feels less loose/vague when cornering

@@kalmmonke5037 I can only remember one exception of a manufacturer that claimed that its car reduced electric steering assistance in sport mode and that was Abarth with the 500/595, and even then I've heard the steering is still relatively light (I haven't driven one so I can't tell properly). Usually it's what the other comments said, just increased weight but no feedback.

​​@@MyRealNamery driving a mini cooper s r56 2007 to 2011. They have hydraulic/electric hybrid steering, in sport mode it gets more stiff and far more sensitive to any bumps on the road, but the throttle response is great and the turbo is pretty much always on. One of the best handling cars in the past 2 decades easily. The modern gen 3 minis handle like hot garbage in comparison

They're arguably both the best car you can get, but in completely different ways.

My first (car) track day there was a Prius.

The Nürburgring Challenge awaits. 😂

@@davidmangrum9556 That's why they're both top 3 on TH's car of the year

Toyota really did a good job with the Prius Prime. Why can't Americans design something like this.

Because we need trucks to prove we're men ​@@thevinceberry

​​@@thevinceberrybecause its complex man. Fuel economies gk up people suck on tbr gas a lil less prices might trend down and you drive lots usa is huge we onky live once shortly we want to be able to drive all over a ton without worrying about some specialized part malfunctioning

The solar panel on the Prime is barely a trickle charge. Seriously... I've looked into it. It's more of a gimmick than anything else.

@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 I live in Florida so the sun is nearly always out. Also solar panel tech has gotten really really good the past 2 years so it's def possible. It wouldn't be infinite energy but to drive to school and back I would never have to use the gas power.

and what's weird if they put bigger electric motor in this (it would cost them/us under 1000$, probably closer to 500$) it would wreck that yellow gt3 in the straight line. Unfortunately all companies save that for more expensive models while making those is really cheap.

@@hagestadyou need a bigger battery as well at some point

Honestly it looks really similar to a CR-Z. I like the new Prius a lot

@@user-tb5pq7yo5n this one is like 10% size or rimac nevera. if it had 10% of the power of that car it would make Prius close to 400hp. that would be pretty close to that Porsche

Probably faster too

I'm pretty sure it was savagegeese saying Toyota can only put out 10,000 of these per year. Which is dismal numbers compared to how many people will want this.

@@richardnavratil9661Insane. That is why Toyota’s claims that making hybrids instead of BEVs is somehow better, due to supposedly being able to make more hybrids with less batteries, is very funny. Tesla sells more BEVs than Toyota sells hybrids and PHEVs *combined* in the US. Yet Toyota has been selling hybrids like the Prius for decades. How did they let that happen? The reality is that Toyota can’t make hybrids as profitably as Tesla can make BEVs. So Toyota tries to greenwash their way into still being viewed as the most fuel efficient car maker, but they aren’t anymore. Toyota is looking to be the next Nokia. They probably won’t go bankrupt, but they will grow more and more irrelevant every year.

@@waynelewis9110 I understand your point. Quick search suggests about 1.3M cars for Tesla in 2022, while Toyota's electrified was at about 450k. I don't know if that excludes Lexus, but would guess that'd get them up to about 650k at most anyway. So I get your point from that view. But to say Toyota will go into obscurity or grow more irrelevant like Nokia is, in my opinion, a stretch. Toyota's lineup is quite extensive, if you really think about it. Vast majority of their vehicles do offer some sort of hybridization. The fact they're struggling to scale it out is one thing. And I am not an electric car hater. But a California/East coast approach is going to be vastly different to something like deep Midwest, where hybrid or plug-in makes way more sense than pure electric. Additionally, if rules are pushed, I reckon many people will mass adopt hybrids and plug-in HEVs faster than / instead of pure BEVs.

@@richardnavratil9661 Many people believed that the likes of Nokia couldn’t be displaced, just as you and others believed that Toyota can’t. Battery technology is advancing fairly quickly. Challenges are being overcame with every improvement. Ultimately, we will see how this all plays out. But my bet is that Toyota will be a smaller company than they are today come 2030.

@@waynelewis9110 Sure it is. But as far as I know, Toyota is one of the first looking to do a mainstream solid state battery vehicle. Only time will tell, but I don't believe that will happen.

Dealers are not to blame for dealermarkups. It’s a supply issue. If you have a product that you only have one of but 10 people want to buy, how do you decide who gets it? Gameshow? Essay? Makes more sense just to see who wants it the most.

​@@Dragonvale105 Limited supply doesn't force dealers to add markups, they just do it because they can. The dealers are the ones that fault here, as they're taking advantage of the limited supply.

Dealerships (and every other business like it) *CREATES* inflation!

@@Dragonvale105 sure, if it's a zero sum game. but don't expect any loyalty -- in a world where servicing a vehicle has to happen a lot less, no one is going to cry when these predatory dealers go bust en masse. they are protected by lobbyists and anti-competitive laws that make it almost impossible to sell direct to consumers in most states. i understand making a profit margin (and most places do on financing and service) -- but $10,000 markups for an econobox commuter car is not reasonable unless you are the most slavish defender of naked, unchecked greed.

Supply & demand? Why are so many people suddenly communists?

The 2nd Gen 2-door Honda Prelude did it in 7.1s. That was considered fast back in the 90s.

I mean, the STI of that era was like a 4.9 0-60, but point taken. It's still definitely quick enough to be considered fun.

I remember being so excited when the WRX finally came to the US

The base model bmw did 0-60 in 6 seconds in 2006 and it’s just a 328i

How fast do you need to drive??

and considering that this prius is faster than the gr86

@@Spawn223311it isn’t though. The prius prime is a low 15 second car and the gr86 is a high 13, low 14 second car.

@@TacticalFur that's maybe with perfect shifting in the manual

@@Spawn223311 one second difference in 0-60 and 1/4 is not a driver’s race. You don’t need to be perfect at all. It’s not close.

@@TacticalFur it's very close or better in real world

I look forward to having mine (in Maximum Yellow 😉) in about a month! 😎

Won't the gas go stale?

@@makatron I believe the software has programming to run the engine after x number of KM if it has not been run, but best practice would be to not keep a tank of gas longer than 6 months or so. Just force HV from time to time to burn some if needed. Will still save a ton of gas. 🙂

Engine is programmed to run every 6 months if ICE is not used. I'll add fresh once I dip below 1/2 tank.

@@mhibbitt now that shows that Toyota thought about everything, specially with overnight charging you'd never need gas.

Agreed

And the hatch opening. I had an old 90 integra that I used to work out of. I could fit all my tools + a 6’ ladder all because of the hatch as opposed to a trunk. Every car that’s not a wagon, should be a hatch. Hah

Corolla Hybrid also comes with the 2liter, mate. Albeit with a bit less horsepower. I think its like 180.

The corolla hybrid is more affordable but the non hybrid corolla is even more affordable.

Go for the absolute base model

It literally has better MPG than a Tesla 💀💀💀💀

+1…. And more CARS. Not everyone needs an SUV. 😉

Absolutely. And a Prius is not a small or impractical vehicle; they seat four full sized adults easily and in comfort, they have big hatch areas with and without the seats folded. They're competitive with compact SUVs in many ways that meet most people's needs, and yeah sip 1/5th as much fuel...sounds awesome! For your wallet as you drive by gas stations and for the environment. Big picture I still advocate for getting trains moving and fixing north american bus systems and transit systems, making our world more walkable in a way that isn't bland corporate and dystopian, look at old cities that are nice to live in, etc...but if we're going to be in cars, hybrids and PHEVs are def the mainstream solution.

Agreed, get more people driving more EV miles for most of their driving, making better use of our limited mineral resources.

@@Trendyflute There's still a problem with rear headroom. The middle seat is also really horrible and the boot space is far from class-leading. You're right though, car dependency needs to be addressed.

And dealership markups too

@@makatron adding inventory would solve that problem!

agreed. I do wish they made more and cheaper 'Prime' cars, like a Yaris. Manufacturers should be offering PHEV versions of as many cars as they possibly can since that would be the quickest way to get people to kill their fossil fuel needs.

The ugly duckling became a beautiful swan

It still puts too much of an emphasis on ICE performance for my taste, especially when compared to the Volt. At 11 seconds 0-60 in EV mode, the Prius Prime is 2.5 seconds slower to 60 than the 8.5 second 0-60 of the first gen Volt in its EV mode.

It’s a much better car than that.

Bc they know it's fuel efficient

ikr...

And it's weird because I KNOW they'd sell in the UK and I'm from the US!😂

Shame uk left eu 😢

@@user-tb5pq7yo5nwe still had separate models compared to mainland europe when we were in the eu

@@zXPeterz14 would be weird if not with the switched steering wheel 😂 but im sure being a smaller isolated market surely doesnt help - in this case i wonder whether the prius was actually released in any left hand countries outside of japan?

Wish we could get a hatchback in the US. I guess they call it the Corolla Cross but that is very ugly in my opinion

toyota is throwing in on re tooling

I've been shopping for one and can't find one anywhere near MSRP. Also there are no XSE Premium at all, I don't know if they're even making them at this point.

Some things you want coming out of japan but only if you can keep the salt away as it crosses the ocean worldwide. Some things it makes sense to plan in one place snd do in another etc m.

But it’s CVT so don’t feel too bad

It still is for most of the world. Especially Europe where majority of cars have 9-10s to 100km/h.

@@wykydytron what?

@@wykydytron lol, sure.

Same in CA but only if you're 400% or less of federal poverty levels. So if you're making good money, you won't qualify.

I guess their recent forays into racing helped them with their chassis designs.

Just 5 years ago their cars were hideous. Who ever they fired was the right guy.

consider hyndai ioniq used car

toyota said they were thinking of rear wheel drive new gr prius lol

@@kalmmonke5037 , I hope it will be awd.

Packaging limitations will prevent AWD in the Prime for now.

@@ytj22 , sad, so only Rav 4 Prime or the NX 450h Plus are my only toyota / lexus choices for now.

Yea but straight EVs can be a huge pain in the ass, especially if you're living somewhere where it gets pretty cold for half the year, not to mention the annoyance of trying to do long distance trips having to plan out charging stations. Plus you have Teslas shit build quality. To me the Prius is a no brainer..... if you're not getting marked up like crazy when buying

@@TBIRD0625Exactly. There’s still a big difference between committing to a full EV car and a plug in hybrid vehicle. You can’t just choose one over the other and call it a day, lot of different factors to consider that may be unique to you and your living location.

​​​​@@TBIRD0625ily driving in winter in a Tesla shouldnt be a problem. Standard range model 3 gets 270 miles, you'll still get over 200 miles in the winter, more than enough for your daily driving + Tesla's legendary heat pump system and its ability to pre cool/pre heat interior as well as battery/motors while charging so you get optimum range even in sub zero weather is awesome. I've been daily driving a model 3 performance up in Canada and the range is great. Even road tripping is awesome with Tesla's supercharging network, the car pretty much plans the route for you. Teslas are pretty much the only EVs that I'd feel confident road tripping as this stage. Their liveability is pretty top notch. While quality is good, I do have to admit that fit n finish is a mixed bag. Mines good, but I had a buddy who had his with paint issues that the service center fixed (for free of course) If you're going EV, Tesla is probably your best bet, just make sure you got a home charger where you can plug the car in once you come home.

@@TBIRD0625 I live in pittsburgh and teslas are commonplace

​@@TBIRD0625Teslas have some of the best cold weather efficiency of any EV and far more efficient than a plug-in hybrid would be. There is no having to "plan out charging stations." The built-in software automatically routes you to chargers along the way and includes information like what your charge will be when you get there and how long you'll be charging there before continuing on your journey. No user input is required apart from entering a destination like you would on any navigation system. As far as quality is concerned, you're getting a lot more complexity (and with it a lot more things to break) with a PHEV than with an EV.

GM dropped the ball on the EV1, Volt, spark EV, and Bolt EV...I sense a pattern going on here. If only GM realized the potential of their EV program back in its EV1 days, Tesla wouldn't exist. Their engineering team never gave up on the idea of an EV, but their marketing team did. That's where Tesla came in and flipped them as well as the auto industry over their heads.