You forgot hollow build quality, production that’s been moved out of the US, and cartoonish bro-dozer styling…especially on the interior. Nothing positive about Toyota’s current truck line up.

That's funny AF & true AF

At least they finally put a boxed frame under it. Probably still rust out in 5 years though.

Was a Toyota guy for the last 25 years. Purchased 3 Gen 1 Tundra's and my wife is on her second Rav4. Drove the new Taco, very disappointed in the quality. Too much plastic and console/controls all jammed together too close (center console/shifter/dash area) for my liking. Also was concerned about the overall quality issues after watching a lot of KZfaq videos on the new Taco. Maybe revisit in the future if they make some changes.

Yes, they are made in the USA.

Sure is Made now in Mexico 😃

In the sense that they build and sell crappy vehicles you're correct.

@@diegohortamartinez the engineering is American now. That’s what he meant. Where it’s manufactured doesn’t matter with respect to how durable the materials are. A weak drive train is a weak drive train regardless of where it’s assembled.

That is hilarious! Well said.

Starting to look like 'crap-o-la'

My 2005 Tacoma was junk too. I think their car division is fine, but their trucks…

Well. After all. They did lose the war. Just sayin'

@@larryaugsburger8452 Maybe its a first year of a new generation thing? I have an 08 Tacoma with 225K miles and still going great. Regular fluid replacements, filters, etc. Only things I've had to do was a Water Pump and Front Hub on the drivers side.

@@GrandsonofKong Could be. I had to do front wheel bearing on one side within 60K miles. By the time I got rid of it at about 90K it needed another one, and it’s an expensive job on these vehicles, as you probably know. By then it was also leaking water into the passenger footwell, and the frame was rusting out. Previously, the driver’s seat creaked constantly, the paint chipped off if you looked at it too hard, I had to have the cab mount bolts replaced under warranty, and had the noisy lead springs fixed, also under warranty. Finally, the transmission never failed but had a disconcerting thud transitioning from coasting to power at about 45MPH. Those are just what I can remember 14 years after dumping it.

And cars. My 2020 Camry I bought new was plagued with problems including the front wheel version of the transmission they put in the Tacoma. The only fix was crushing it.

lol, You would wonder, but the drivers today, I am sure could give it a try.

Exactly. They're cheaping out

made in Mexico...lol

Or made in China like happened to my manual Mustang especial edition in 2019

Some manual gearboxes have plastic synchros these days

Right?? Especially a Toyota. Having issues with a brand new car is Hyundai, Kia, Jeep and GMC territory.

I can't imagine buying a new car because of the prices.

Yes and no. Some people are refusing to believe the new normal of Toyota and are having to pay the price for their stubbornness.

“Owners” 😂 They own nothing but a car loan 💸

A loan and a potential lemon

😂😂

😂😂, I think you're absolutely right.

THEY PROBABLY HIRED THE AMC....CEO !!

Don't blame Chrysler for Toyotas stupidity

Nah, this is what happens when a company gets too cocky and greedy

Toyota knows most people just drive them on the roads as daily drivers. Only 2 recent take them off roads bearing in them. This is why I would never buy an off road vehicle. It’s so bad for everything. A guy I know is selling his 2022 4Runner and he wants all the money for it. It’s got lots of dents in the frame and underbody from rocks. My friend who owns a local shop inspected it for a buyer and told buyer to stay away from anything taken off road. Smart people don’t best on their new vehicles. It makes them lose value. That’s what old ones are for. 😊

Mall Queens. All of the Raptors and TRX $100,000+ trucks I see are all Mall Queens. The trucks I see at Home Depot are all older trucks.

They want us all to eventually drive throwaway electric trucks so they're building crappy gasoline trucks so the electric trucks will be more desirable.

HoW. DaRe. YoU. DisRESPECT TOYOTA as SUCH? Huh? How Dare Thee!!!!!!!1

its just not going to work reliably when flimsy lightened material is subject to high stress. I went to a dealer yesterday to look at tacoma, no sales seems to have any interest. few trucks in the showroom ready to go but all the economy cars have a waiting list..

Such a shame we can't ever get their good trucks like the rest of the world

@@nick_hf They know America wants bells and whistles, not simple reliable rigs.

Love the commercial! Yup, and just like that what used to be the second best became the best, and what used to be the best is now outdone by GM. What a strange time we are living in.

Frontiers have weak front differentials

I’d consider getting one but there is a prick in my fire dept that drives an old Nissan Frontier and I don’t want that association. 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣 True story.

My buddies son had a late model Frontier, the tranny went out, $4000 later it went out again? He now drives an SUV.

@@code_xj not anymore

Yeah this used to be what Toyota always delivered on...

I have to believe Toyota is on the phone asking the popular Toyota channels to keep all this on the down low. To hear that the transmission is having problems will be the death blow for Toyota trucks, and SUVs for years until they rebuild confidence. It's going to take a while.

@@justsayin3600death blow indeed

You know what's weird, I have some Tundra videos out about the recall and engine failures. It doesn't seem to matter, when I look at the facebook groups and forums, people still buying new Tundras. They are all aware of the recall, they are just Ok playing roulette....odd times we live in.

Right because some Toyota hater on KZfaq found a forum where people were talking about one transmission that went bad 😂

​@jonde4445 he's not a "hater ". What's is is with you soft snowflakes that cannot take brutal honesty? I own a Toyota and I'm not touching their newer turbo engines. Nothing but problems . If you can't handle that tough shit

They have multiple problems and not only one model but multiple. Tacoma, tundra, grand highlanders! Just hope it doesn’t happen to you!

@@jojoandaya116 the tundras have a manufacturing defect that Toyota is addressing. There is no issue with the Tacoma other than people being angry at the price

@@jonde4445Why are you so mad and taking this so personal? It’s a truck from a company that does even know or care about you.

Keeping my paid off 22 Tacoma 4X4 I bought bran new, has 11300 miles for a long time. Knew these time tested setups were going to disappear in 2024.

yup same here. guess I'm keeping my 2020 trd off road for quite a while lol

I'm definitely keeping my garage kept 2019 Tacoma Trdpro Voodoo Blue with the M/T.

Nissan frontier is still solid and isn’t changing their power plants anytime soon. V6 is just simple

I was going to wait four more years to buy a new truck. But when I found out the new Tacoma was a turbo four-cylinder I jumped on a 2023/ third GEN brand new and I’m super happy I did. I’m old-school I don’t need giant infotainment screens and fast 0 to 60 times I want reliable pick up truck to get me back-and-forth to work and haul some shit from time to time and get me home safe when the weather is absolutely shit which happens in Oregon from time to time.

@@773Chicago IF, I was looking for a truck it would be the Frontier.

Why not? Saves money and people will keep buying the name for years.

Toyota's prized truck is the hilux that isn't available in the USA.

3.4 engines from Japan are having issues.

May Only be in America! Japan isn't using this powertrain in LC, Japan Only 2.8td 5/7pass OR 2.7na 7pass. NO hybrid, No gas turbo, Extra row

@@tgkg I thought the landsnoozer 79 was.

Yeah I hear good things from them all the time here..they seem reliable

My Colorado Trail Boss is doing fine also after a year of ownership, I only put 3900 miles on it since buying it new, hopefully my transmission doesn’t grenade like Toyotas

​@@jimmycline4778 good luck those 8 speed that gm uses are one of the worst they've ever built. So far they only had updating issues and small electrical problems but there simple fixes but only time will tell.

@@jimmycline4778 How do you like the Colorado? They are one of the best looking trucks IMO.

Yes, Nissan quietly keeps making them, and owners keep driving them year after year. I m aproaching 30 years on the same Nissan truck. Nissan seems to attract sensible buyers who like value, not loud fanboys like the Tacoma does.

Avoid Ford trucks. Avoid Chevy trucks. All of them are shit

@@joeblow-xy3oz Dont forget Ram

Avoid new trucks

All the other new trucks are not this bad… (well, Fords had some 10s problems). Hope Toyota finds a quick fix and gets back to being reliable!

Ford and chevy are turning junk out the same...

Deeper profits while making you pay more for less performance and quality. Shrinkflation

I wanna see if the new 4runner has the same issues being built in Japan is way better than Mexico

Are the engines and transmissions manufactured in Mexico?

Tacomas have been made in Mexico for many years.

Buy the Frontier.MADE IN AMERICA and tried and true.

I won't ever be invited to an event they have...but I'm ok with that. I have a day job ;)

For sure

We just bought a 2024 5th Gen Limited once we started hearing about the catastrophic tundra problems. We figured if they didn’t get that right they are certainly probably going to fail somewhere with the four-cylinder turbo.. It is still astonishing to think about going from a 4.0 six-cylinder to a 2.4 four-cylinder. We are in our early 60s and have made a bet to see if we can outlive it. 😅

@@JRake32 I had an FJ Cruiser for 10 years with that drivetrain. Never had a single issue. Even the battery lasted much longer than I expected.

They already are, there resold at a competing price against the new Tacoma.

The 2023 Tacoma is gonna be worth it too

That's when they were built in Japan.

Our '03 was built iin California ​@@HaughtKarl-jx9vr

The first year of production of anything new will always have issues. Toyota will iron out any issues that's reported.

I can see the value of the older ones defiantly going up...

@@MH_6160 for sure

You forgot a cheaper weaker frame.

You forgot bad payload

They overheat FAST(TFL channel for reference) with large payload, and the active grill shutters are also malfunctioning

it can be used camper to sleep in lol

@@marklihsu Payload can easily be fixed by Toyota offering a single cab with a long bed. The American market just doesn't demand it.

Amen, 12' owner here as well.

Frontier IS the new Taco. 100% agree!

Nah… I think the Frontier is going to be whole different another class above the Taco.

@@FizzleWick1true especially when the V6 launches it will be a step above like the Ranger raptor

Nissan is owned by Renault if you think France can build quality you're wrong.

@@tahoebum i'll gladly accept a french company bankrolling the building of powertrains in tennessee and vehicle assembly in mississippi. it feels a lot more patriotic buying Renault products built in the united states than it feels buying ford products made in mexico. unfortunately both our arguments are baseless since 2023 when renault lowered it's voting stake in nissan to 15 percent, matching nissans voting stake in renault.

Hey don’t forget about resale. That’s going to take a dump as well

Yes we simply can buy used Toyotas.

@@marklihsu won't hurt resale for those that drink Yota-koolaide

​@LoveLikeaHurricane even the Cult, Kool-aid has lost its mojo.

@@westcoastplinkin6559 This...the used ones are still great.

Yeah pretty crazy. I think lemon laws protect people if a vehicle has been in for over 30 days for same issue, you can get a buyback.

@TheCarGuyOnline it's just wild to me that people are spending 60k on a vehicle only to be told that replacement parts are 4-6 months out and you have to hope you don't have to go to court.

@@TheCarGuyOnlineis it safe to say the new 2025 4 Runners are going to suffer with the same issues given they share the same guts so to speak? I’m having huge second thoughts now about the planned purchase.

@@danielprice5540 Hard to say. So far I've heard the Landcruiser and Tacos have had some transmission issues, but no engine issues. I'm sure it's still a small percentage but, not zero...that's for sure. First model year, expect quite a few more issues than maybe what a 2027 might end up having :)

Dana axles,Mercedes trans, powerful v-6. The Nissan Frontier had only 1 recall easily fixed in 2022. No recalls since. Built like a tank compared to chevy ,Ford, and Toyota. Nissan the best truck for less money 💰 wise choice.

The balls they have to charge $65k for a TRD Pro and to ship them out with failing transmissions, shaving issues in the engine, and more. Unbelievable. I was waiting for the TRD Pro to come out then said ‘there’s no shot I’m buying a midsize for the price of a Ram Laramie.’ Got myself a Ram Laramie 2024 talked down to $60k even. So happy I did.

Good choice! I also recommend Nissan frontier and the Titan…. Coming from a Toyota guy.

@@eddiehaskell5578brother had a Nissan pro4x gave it up for the Ranger raptor. Much better truck but he did like the frontier

I almost bought a frontier. Ended up buying a '24 4runner with the good ole v6 and 5spd tranny. Bought a small trailer to tow behind. Couldn't be happier.

Indeed they did

Pretty sure it's already de throned 😅

Already de throned my boy! Frontier smoked it in sales Q2. It's a better truck anyway. Always has been.

I hope Nissan Frontier gets a chance at the top…

@@All-Miles-Matter Saw a frontier the other day at the store on 33"s… looked really good!

​@@MH_6160nice, 33s look proper for the frontier but I know take some work to make them fit properly.

No they won't. They will see Toyota and other manufacturers still making profit because idiots still buy these overpriced trucks regardless of their issues. So Honda will be like "see? We actually DON'T need to waste money refining out quality. Roll out the garbage, boys!" Next Gen Ridgelines will be garbage and people will buy them anyways

Lol. Hondas earth dreams....

No one care about that thing lol

The 2023s and 2024s are still solid dependable midesize trucks but im.not sure how long they're keeping their solid V6 engine.

Hopefully they’re paying attention. Seems like most buyers want a V6, not these I4 Turbos. I test drove the new Ranger today, and thought it had no oomph to it. I’d imagine the Taco is the same, and why the Frontier is getting more attention.

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it.

😂

Competitors are overjoyed

L😂L

I'm not a Nissan fan. 🙃 I am a *"**#Toyota_Tacoma** Fan Boy"* , but to be honest, the only car company that seems not to be having issues here in 2024 is *Nissan* . 🧐

@@icosthop9998 not true. Read the forums. Plenty of issues with the frontier.

every job industry is this way and thats why this world is now a cookie cutters world with cheap fixes that constantly break. Same goes with new homes being built, they expect everybody to finish within a year or you get fired. Then the home owners have to always fix this or that year after year....

Yeah I think they just have too many changes all at once, factory changes, engine, frames, transmissions, entirely new trucks top to bottom…

There hasn't be a time in my memory.

There's more youtubers who make a video for any little detail now.

Lots of Toyotas have had problem's over the years

@@mad-meh2719 Dead transmissions and blown engines are hardly little details.

Leveraging debt is just smart business. Finance 101

@@jase9951 not when the rates go up higher than forecasted.

@@jase9951debt servicing kills a lot of companies…. They have $248 billion outstanding.

They are also the biggest manufacturer in the world. ( for now)

@@Truth2240 even the taliban does not want the 4th gen.

That’s capitalism for you. Squeezing the middle class and destroying quality products for a little more profit.

Except a lot of the problems that are being brought up on this video are bad design. That is more than just first year glitches. We have a weaker frame a weaker rear differential are serious design flaws. Also shock mounts that are weaker and cracking. Using cheaper materials than before. I'm not going to apologize for Toyota they are cutting corners now and charging a premium for it.

The guys from Donut and TFL trucks all sound like they are getting paid by Toyota to say how great the Tacoma is instead of saying to wait a few years for the bugs to be worked out of this new Tacoma model. Me, I wouldn’t touch this new Tacoma cause you know more problems with this truck, and the Tundra, will be coming. That’s why I’m holding on to my 1989 Toyota pickup it’s still going strong. Bring back the V-6 and V-8. Toyota I think you messed up.

That is why they should not let the bean counters control the ultimate finished product.

@@batfury9319now you know why tfl sold their Tacoma

Some people just have that urge to always be the first …

Already did!

@@kyletennant4730 hahaha false

@@kyletennant4730nothing official Yet Nissan plays the slow game they build a platform and perfect it for many years doubt the platform will change anytime soon

Nissan got me. I was eyeing a TRD tacoma or tundra for a while. I've kept an eye on them a while. Opt out for all the reasons we know. I have a 24 pro4x in my driveway for a reason. Toyota lost a sale from me. I was the 3rd one buying a frontier at that dealership i went to that week, who left toyota.

Actually they get the parts from reputable part manufacturers. The problem is counterfeit parts up stream. That is what is happening with boieng, counterfeit titanium from turkey, who buys it from china....

I’ve had quite a few folks from Canada chime in. Every time I see a comment from Canada I think about speed academy on YT and corrosion issues :). I feel for you up there.

Yup, feels a lot like BMWs

When the GT86 and the BRZ came out, toyota put a production limit on the brz because it was the better version. Should've been a clue back then.

The bmw b58 in the Supra is a damn impressive engine, however nowadays it does feel like stellantis had a hand in all of this lol.

Great analysis and comment

Oh you don’t say?

@@hasteandfury2424 Oh you don’t say?

Wow 400 kilometers that's crazy 🤔

2006 Corolla with 260,000 KM. Still happy with it.

@@curryhousechicken nobody asked

You are 100% correct. You can tell these are mostly "lab" tested. Even the engine testing they do, most of it is on the robotics that articulate at different angles. Not nearly as much real world testing.

Cause scotty kilmer keeps pushing Toyota as good vehicles, and people buy into his crap

Early 2000 corolla engines burnt oil and that was normal lol

This is what I’ve felt for years, I was a complete Toyota fan and bought several trucks from 14 onwards and each of them had a myriad of issues I kept chalking up to I just have gotten a bad one. We are at a tipping point now where everyone else is starting to see issues and not feel afraid to speak up against the Toyota zealots and admit they’ve had problems for years it’s just that Toyota owners are far more religious with maintenance.

Its just has less problems than the rest thats out there

I've been saying the same thing but Toyota fan boys wont believe it or admit it

A couple of years ago I considered a midsize truck for a min after 20 + years of driving full-size trucks. I test drove 2021 Tacoma and a 2023 Frontier. Tacoma was a dog, sluggish, hunting for gears, loud and felt underpowered. Ended up going back to full size since both of them felt tight inside the cab, but I would’ve picked the Frontier out the 2 because it was more refined in every aspect.

Yeah '19,'20,'21, and '22 where the 3rd gens best. Even the '23 had recalls on the rear diff.

Toyota has been crap since the early 2000s. Lexus has been good but they switched to turbos and evs.....

@@originalname9999 I have a 22 and had a recall for the rear axle. They found nothing though.

@@bledibushati9889 You're not wrong. Had a 2023 Tacoma and traded it in after 8 months, for all the reasons you mentioned. Power of a 4 cylinder with the thirst of a V8.

I think these transmissions are made in Japan still, shipped for assembly, but I could be wrong

@@TheCarGuyOnlinewow if that’s the case they got even bigger issues.

Hecho en Mehheko!

Tacoma was moved to either TMMMX in 21, for the 22 year model. After that point it was made in TMMMX or in TMMBC in Baja. As a Toyota tech, I haven’t seen a single bit of quality change from when they were made in San Antonio to when they moved it to Mexico.

@@TheCarGuyOnline They're still 250 Billion in debt and going bankrupt. Toyota simps be gone

Jeep can't build a clutch. Lol

Agreed. Manuals have been around forever. It's not a new design or technology. That means they cheaped out on parts quality. Toyota has lost its way.

Very true, I seek out old manual tranny cars for my kids because they are usually much more reliable than the old autos....how times can change.

Yep, Toyota fan girls are the worst.

Why? I'm a Toyota fan but even I know turbo engines weren't going to be reliable. It is why I got a 3rd gen.

​@@westcoastplinkin6559smart

I'm not a Nissan fan. 🙃 I am a *"**#Toyota_Tacoma** Fan Boy"* , but to be honest, the only car company that seems not to be having issues here in 2024 is *Nissan* . 🧐

I'm not in crisis. Just disappointed. I can see why you like to see the champion suffer a little bit though after 30 years of nonstop success.

Yeah for sure, and lately it has been first 1-3 years of model changes are pretty bad. Quality is heading down the drain...

You actually don't know what you're talking about. Until recently Toyota and Honda have undeniably been BY FAR the most reliable cars for a VERY long time. But recently with the government pushing regulations Toyota has unfortunately started switching over to CVT transmissions. Costs more, harder to work on, and far less reliable, but gets 1 to 2 percent better gas mileage to help meet government regulations. They've also switched to hybrid only for both the Corolla, and the Camry and some other cars for 2025. If your family has problems with Toyotas either they bought them used and the former owners did not take care of them and your family members did not know how to inspect a used car, or your family members themselves neglected the maintenance. It is an undeniable fact that Toyota (until very recently) has had the most reliable cars on the market. That's just an undeniable fact. And we don't know yet if their cars will remain as reliable because as of now it's far too early to tell how the CVT transmissions and hybrid battery cars will hold up. But you don't know what you're talking about and my 99 Camry with 301,000 miles on it (looks old but drives like it's brand new and still has ice cold air conditioning) or my 09 Corolla that still drives like the day I bought it is proof positive.

@@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630 So you are telling me something about myself and you don't even know me or my experiences......🤣😂🤣😂. Get life dude. I know myself, and my family and the cars they bought and the time and work I put into them.......not you.....and they were Toyotas. Shove off. Just because you are a fanboy and have to try and defend them when they are proving to be exactly as I say, doesn't make you an authority on anything. 😂🤣😂🤣😂

If it's not built in Japan, it is crap.

@@randomstuff2607 If anyone goes along with that line of thinking, then Toyotas must be crap. Tacoma is made in Mexico. The Tundra is made in USA. Camry, USA. Toyota Rav-4 is built in USA, at Toyotas biggest factory in the world in Kentucky. Should I keep going? Your line of thinking is absolutely moronic!

But trd john said they tested for hundreds of thousands of miles at the Toyota tacoma event he was tooling around in

Toyota got fined for skipping safety checks. These checks would probably find the debris too. The design and manufacturing is terrible. Screw toyota

Probably the issue. They also got caught fudging tests in Japan. All points to management.

I agree, it feels to me that with all of the Tundra/Taco issues people complain about, it really feels like they didn't do as much real world testing, more test bench miles....

Same. I'm keeping my 2011 Pro 4x until the wheels fall off.

The good news is if you ever decide to upgrade, the new Frontiers are outstanding too.

@@Brickbattery I own a 2013 Frontier SV not anything mechanically wrong with it or any cosmetic problems . Looks brand new.

@@quintonhorne5152 Nice! Hope it serves you well for many years to come.

Thats good😂

Too bad the frontier doesn't offer a manual transmission I would buy one

Yeah it seems very random. Some have issues in the first few thousand miles...others no issue. TRD Jon and others have over 10k miles with no issues. Seems like a numbers game, I would agree, it used to be very uncommon to see Aisin issues.

Pretty sad. I hope they dial it in over the next few years.

@@TheCarGuyOnline Toyota demonstrated they could improve “Design Obsolescence”. I’ve heard there is a redesign of their 4 cyl engine coming in the near future. Thanks for the great content!

houabout a tin alloy / stout ? what could be wrong. ? plastic frame? mucho..?

It does seem much more profit driven nowadays. Part of the issues are coming from regulations/emissions, but not all. It's frustrating to see as I still own 3 Toyotas I love.

I think the only reason he kept the check engine light on footage was because there were witnesses can’t exactly take your truck in and hide the problems if others see it.

You have to remember bug youtube channels have massive budgets they have to meet. They have to take every penny offered to keep the show moving. Smaller channels do not have the overhead and get to be honest

Guys going to regret putting all those big ass tires on all those shitty turbo bangers he got

hes a tool! typical toyota fanboi!

His tundra is constantly at the dealership and he's a major shill.

2015 TRD SPORT 👍

No car company can bring back NA V6s or V8s thanks to extreme left wing policies coming out of California and the EPA. You can thank democrats for that.

It's because the Japanese government is mandating all tech companies focus on hydrogen. The import 75% of their hydrogen, it makes no sense

Profits up by stiffing loyal enthusiasts

Short term thinking for them....if this continues, they'll lose the one thing they have always had with a loyal fanbase that wants reliability first and foremost. Time will tell how this story goes but, it's looking like it's mostly profit driven I would agree with you.

Was looking forward to purchasing the 2024. When they first hit the showroom I paid a visit. Nice truck. But I was blown away from the pricing. Glad I stayed away and didn’t jump on the hype train.

They should have solved the frame/rust issues and built that same truck for a run like the VW beetle.

Pretty obvious this is the issue. The Tundra now the Tacoma.

As statistics go...you probably won't have issues. So far the 2.4L seems like it has been reliable. It's generally easier to make a 4 cylinder turbo reliable vs. a twin turbo v6 as well. Traditionally, Toyota has always had pretty good transmissions until recently, the Tundra and Tacoma have had some early failures. I think it will sort itself out and stablize....at least I hope.

Sure feels that way…”just good enough”

Physics is still a thing.

If it's the turbo, than no it's not

Those trucks can be rendered useless by a simple software update glitch. I wouldn't trust any vehicle like that.

🤣

@@westcoastplinkin6559 Might want to stay away from any vehicle produced in the last couple decades then.

Funny how people say "anecdotes" as if it's not true. Here's your definition for anecdotal: "a short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person." Note the "real incident or person" part ;).

@@TheCarGuyOnline No it absolutely happened. I have no doubt. What you have no idea about is how that person drove their vehicle, how that person maintained their vehicle, did that person follow the break in (were they towing like they are not supposed to be, were they WOT like they aren't supposed to be in the first 1000 miles, were they varying their speed), and finally what did they remove and add ( did they mod the vehicle, did they tune the vehicle). Do you know the answers to these questions? Lastly, there are lemons. Yes, even Toyotas. By absolute number a significant amount. By percentage a very small amount. I would take all of these with grain of salt like every review/complaint. Especially the message board geniuses. The same people that think they know better than the engineers that designed the vehicle on what fluids/oil to use; switch it and then bitch about powertrain issues. Time will tell. You are correct about that. And don't get me wrong, I understand the clickbait game. I respect it; do what you have to do. Such is the way of KZfaq visibility.

@@frank1908 If I'm reporting based on actual data I can sleep well at night, this is hopefully not considered the egregious clickbait that some channels perform, but I know some people still see it that way. If we are honest, everything is clickbait in the end, just varying degrees. My goal is to have the bait be based in truth/facts/real stories, not just for the sole purpose of a click. If any KZfaqr or media outlet says otherwise, I suppose they are lying. It's similar to fishing I suppose, I wouldn't fish with no lure and just a hook to make it harder to catch fish. Regarding your thoughts on how they drove the vehicles. You never really know how anyone treats their vehicles, whether it's from a single failure, or 1000 failures and recalls, this is nothing new. Saying something is "anecdotal" whether it's with political rhetoric or cars, doesn't make things not true or less valuable information. Also, most failure mileage on these transmissions do not fall under any maintenance interval recommended by the manufacturer. Yes there are lemons, these could be just that (outside of the manual transmission issues). I think the manual transmission issues are worse, and it seems Toyota doesn't have a fix yet for those, or doesn't know what the root cause is yet. Statistics at the end of the day, are a long term/rolling aggregate of anecdotal evidence, hopefully you can acknowledge that. Just because problems occur in low numbers of vehicles, that does not excuse the manufacturer or absolve them of responsibility in QC/Engineering/Testing and overall response to customers. These vehicles cost a LOT of money, people do not expect that buying one is similar to playing roulette with regard to quality or safety. I agree, this might be a big nothing, or it might be something. I remember when new Tundra engines were blowing early on, people said "anecdotal" over and over, they still do, until the issue got too big to ignore, now look where it is. I think we are on the same page about how to evaluate it in the end, time never lies, time always reveals the truth.

@@TheCarGuyOnline I can agree with all of that. I just think 5 reports and a message board posts (many of which are probably the same people) is hardly an indicator of an upcoming recall like the question in the title implies. Who knows? Maybe it is. And I expect there are many more. And more to come. Like every vehicle in production for all of history. And I agree that actual people are affected. But the reality is lemons happen. Period. Unavoidable when you mass produce any product. You know this when you buy a car. That’s why there are lemon laws. 5 reports and a message post is not indicative of a widespread issue. Hell, 50 isn’t. Those 50 can be very loud. The other 95,000 can be very quiet. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be pissed. Doesn’t mean I don’t feel for them. And it doesn’t mean the Tacomas have a serious issue on their hands. The Tundra recall is bad. No question. Sounds like it is specific to one main bearing. Was it a batch? Was it every truck produced in a certain time frame? Sounds like the debris on most Tundras were small enough to pass around the bearing and get caught by the oil filter without issue otherwise you would have way more than 800 by this point. Obviously for the 800+ in the recall to this point there was bigger debris that could not get past the bearing and ka boom. I will be interested in the plan going forward. I soul say EVEN for the Tundra the jury is still out. If it is just a couple of batches or a date range with most not having debris large enough to seize the engine, and they fix the issue this will be but a blip on the radar by the end of this model’s production. OR there could be other issues pop up with the turbo and this be the death of a brand’s reputation. My bet is on the former. But I am not knocking KZfaqrs for striking while the iron is hot on paranoia, rage, and disaster. It is pointless to make a video after the facts are known fully. The money is made on clicks and clicks requires speculation, paranoia, and a sense of time running out. “THE USED CAR MARKET IS CRASHING!” For 36 straight months. “So and sos sales PLUMMET! Is this the end.” And there is a perfectly reasonable explanation that has nothing to do with the product or company. Same gamelan that consumers bite on for warranties for literally anything and that scammers use. Not calling you a scammer by the way, it is just a blueprint as old as civilization. “Time is running out (said the Catholic Church). Better get you donations in and buy your way to heaven while you can. The plague is in the next town over.”

@@frank1908 LOL "THE USED CAR MARKET IS CRASHING", I'm always amazed at how those videos STILL get hundreds of thousands of views. I figured out why they keep running those headlines though, CarEdge, Car Questions Answered, and others. The main reason they keep running the same thing over and over is obvious, the success of the videos, but also I started to look at KZfaq statistics even on my own videos. Turns out 90% or more viewers for each video are "new", which was really odd to me. I think they have such a large number of viewers that are "new" each time, it must be worth it to annoy their existing audience. Scotty Kilmer does the same thing, same headlines for years, but they seem to work as a long term strategy. My goal with this channel is to try to teach people that they don't need new cars that cost $80,000 and how to buy reliable used cars and save for retirement, however those topics are very boring, don't have any element of instant gratification, and don't seem to do as well. I'm going to keep sprinkling that theme in though, the larger audience I can reach, hopefully the more people I can influence to truly get control of their finances which ultimately leads to more freedom for them. You are 100% correct on what sells and what doesn't. I've been trying to strategize, how do I create headlines that get these doom-scrollers to click (seems to be the highest number), but then counter that with an actually balanced video with some real data. One thing I've noticed is that most people don't even watch the entire video, or don't pay attention if they do, 50% of comments are trying to notify me about things that I actually put in the video (statistics or whatever), and it's clear they just rushed to the comments to fight or get noticed. It's an uphill battle, but hopefully I'll solve some equation of entertainment, education and actually bringing some awareness to the overspending consumer driven society to wake up a bit :). We'll see where it goes.