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2024 TVS X First Impressions | MotorInc First S01E17
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Күн бұрынThe TVS X is TVS' expensive new electric flagship product - bookings are open but the X is not on sale yet. Shumi got a chance to ride a near-final TVS X electric scooter briefly. On MotorInc First, he's explains to Kartikeya Singhee what's new and what's what.
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MotorInc First is a discussion between experts Kartikeya Singhee and Shumi (Shubhabrata Marmar), co-founders of MotorInc on new vehicles. Each episode will discuss one vehicle in great detail, covering the experience of driving or riding it, as well as what it means for the industry.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Short First Ride
01:25 Availability
01:53 Design & Styling
05:12 Under the Skin
07:02 Pricing!
09:14 Fun To Ride?
12:25 How's It To Ride?
14:06 TVS' Hosur Track
15:23 Ride Quality
16:32 Practical Scooter?
19:48 A New TVS
21:24 IRL Hopes
22:22 Riding Modes
24:04 Won't Sell Well
24:31 The Next X
25:50 Screens & Software
28:07 Regen Presets
29:44 Power Switch Issues
31:49 Mode Change Rethink?
33:02 TVS Service
33:33 Kartikeya's Summary
39:08 Closing Comments
41:58 Test Ride Stories
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@akash-kumar737 9 ай бұрын
I am 27 old doesn't know how to drive but still hooked to this podcast. You guys are providing really good content ❤
@pavanb6412 9 ай бұрын
same buddy. I'm saving up to buy my own bike and start learning. All the best to you.
@footballbharat 9 ай бұрын
@@pavanb6412 same here buddy...
@dhruvnegi322 7 ай бұрын
Same here.. more of a car guy.. but these two might eventually convince me to buy and learn bike too 😂😂..
@biradarsridhar5667 6 ай бұрын
Same here. I am 29 and thinking of buying a bike and learning on my own😅
@footballbharat 5 ай бұрын
@@biradarsridhar5667 is it doable ?
@APJ89MYS 9 ай бұрын
Great review/discussion on TVS X. Most of the employees at TVS are also equally confused as you both were. The pricing of X has no rational or logic. However, this is my personal view of X. I think X is a sacrificial product of TVS. If you look at the Indian 2W industry, TVS is the only OEM that is doing extremely well in both scooters and bikes (less than 200 cc). However, if TVS has global ambitions and wants to create a product of premium price. I think they don't want to go the Maruti way where the Indian public is not ready to pay top bucks for Maruti, they would prefer other brands for Premium price. Hence, TVS is trying to condition the public or market that they are not just any mass 2W OEM; they are also a technology driven OEM. Thus, you see the kind of features you see in Apache RTR 310 and TVS X with slightly premium pricing. This is because eventually any 2W who has global ambitions has to come up with 500 or 750 cc & above vehicles and if you introduce them straight from 200 cc mass manufacturing platform; i think the market would reject it. I feel TVS X and Apache RTR 310 will pave the way for a 650 CC adventure or Naked bike of TVS with premium pricing and market acceptability of paying that top bucks for TVS as a brand. What do you both think?
@KnightlySpartan 9 ай бұрын
Was expecting the Himalayan 452 First Ride impressions to drop today 😅
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
In the works! As soon as we can 😊
@akheelugwekar 9 ай бұрын
Was expecting Duke 250 will drop today 🥴
@viddheshchavan136 9 ай бұрын
Same Here 😂.
@muhammadfaheem3746 9 ай бұрын
Was expecting full review of the Karizma, considering shorts are out already
@NoScope69 9 ай бұрын
Has the embargo lifted for opinions? I think that’s why we are seeing TVS review and not Himalayan’s. They might have recorded already.
@dipesharora8387 9 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter if your conversation has any relevance or not... If you two sit down to talk.. We sit down to listen... Simple. We love your format. Never change that 👍
@manansharma9507 9 ай бұрын
These podcast style reviews are my new favourite thing to listen to in the background while working. Great review like always. When's the RTR 310 review dropping?
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! Thanks Manan! No word on RTR310 test bikes yet TBH
@muhammadfaheem3746 9 ай бұрын
@@motorincseen plenty of the 'drag race' youtubers with test bikes, perhaps trying to source one from another city might work
@aakashsahani2991 9 ай бұрын
11:51 Instead of the western markets it's more likely to be made for SEA markets, TVS is somewhat of a known brand there and maxi scooters are like their default bikes. And I assume instead of increasing prices significantly in the International markets like they do, TVS will keep the prices as close as it quotes in India.
@gunsNwings 9 ай бұрын
Just taking a moment to think how much Shumi observes and so clear in putting it across. Boy! Kudos to you.. Waiting for himalayan 450 review
@sivasankarpnair 9 ай бұрын
So happy to see another Motorinc first... can you guys please do one detailed video on the KTM adventure 250 ? Would love to hear your unique opinions on that machine.
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We can try... the last we checked, there were no test bikes to be had though
@ArunSapaare 9 ай бұрын
One thing I learnt from this video is that do not get excited about something at the launch, sit down, think about it's purpose, think about it's up's & down's & only then come to a conclusion. I could visually tell that Shumi & Karthikeya were more happy talking about the River Indie compared to this vehicle which says a lot about the TVS X. I love everytime they say Bangalore, the immediately correct themselves to calling Bengaluru, which is why I love you guys. Love you from Bengaluru!❤❤
@amaldev4150 9 ай бұрын
I am happy to see you guys sit there and talk. It's like family talking but more interesting stuff. Also super looking forward to Himalayan First.
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Amal! Himalayan coming soon
@rishabhs103 9 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with the family talking part. Feels like two super passionate big brothers discussing bikes and me sitting cross legged on the chair listening closely
@PriyenduSingh 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree with this Regen issue, after riding iqube for a while I am used to regen , and now use it as a part of braking . But when the battery is full , and I want to break a little , i remove throttle and hope for regen to decrease my speed, but it doesn’t, and it takes a bit time to realise that regen won’t kick in
@prathameshadhikari674 9 ай бұрын
Really awesome!!! Raw conversation and I love it 😍
@travelthumps 9 ай бұрын
the problem with regen not kicking in between 90 and 100 is there even on OLA not sure if this suggestion of yours will reach OLA , request OLA to take notice of this suggestion.
@gupta-vibhu 9 ай бұрын
Such Frankness and Candidness is the need of the hour. Its rare to find, except in your channel.👌
@TechyBhatta 9 ай бұрын
We really need a dynamic timetable, where you guys inform us when you'll be uploading review/first for any new bike as we don't want to see the over excited media reviews and love a bike under false pretenses...we trust you and we know good things take time but please inform us for a definite date so don't eat biased reviews from elsewhere It's a humble request team !
@harisasidharan2043 9 ай бұрын
I was looking through youtube for the Hero Xoom review and came into your channel, and you showed that bike reviews can be so artistic and was hooked. Thanks Shumi ❤🙌. Hope you can do a Susuki Avenis review if possible.
@uditnarayan9489 9 ай бұрын
I wish Karthik knew snarky eye rolls like Shumi. There would have been more eyerolls than the Nexon video. XD So, does a bigger screen makes the ride and handling better you ask? How about a 10 incher on a scooter? That shows continuous match score updates. Scary!!
@mjdragon13 9 ай бұрын
Hey folks! Much love for your timely reviews and how calming they are!!! Having a small quesition for yall... will there be a small refresh video regarding the pulsar 150/160 q and about factoring in the n150 and how the p150 is discontinued now...
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We’re working this out. FWIW, if you see our P150 content, it applies almost directly to the N150 because it’s the same bike with tiny changes and new skin.
@mjdragon13 9 ай бұрын
That makes sense yeah, it seems they derived most of the existing hardware that was in the p150 single disc variant expect for the handlebars/ or the headlamp visor... surely, will wait for your content on this front, thanks team@@motorinc
@Amuzic 9 ай бұрын
When I watched the unveil event live, I had the exact feeling as you guys are having. Massively underwhelemed, even though I couldn't point out anything wrong in particular in the scooter. I think, Ather has set a benchmark high enough at its pricepoint, that the X really looked too little for too much money. The only and a major positive takeaway from the X was its software, they have actually outdone both Ola and Ather in the software department, even though both those have years of experience and upgrades behind their software. I didn't expect this from a legacy auto. For those who think this is a moot point, no it's not. Indian 2 wheeler makers are at global standard when it comes to automotoive software now, comparable only to Tesla, Nio, Rivian etc. These are not some software that can run the multimedia unit, this is a new architecture(brought forward by Tesla first) where a central computing unit will control different peripheral units, which gives the capability to the software to change every aspect of the vehicle, from ride quality to safety to performance to ride profiles to sensory inputs etc etc. So, Kudos to TVS for nailing it in the first go, assuming they would deliver what they have promised. I wish Indian carmakers learn a thing or two from the 2-wheeler makers in the software department.
@giridharanvel919 9 ай бұрын
When Karthik Says "I want an X squared" that serious yet funny look. I want an X2 tooo. You guys are doing incredible stuff, keep on motoring.
@scienceByV 9 ай бұрын
Informative video as always. I have a request to increase volume by 20% because some of us are not able to hear while showering, yes we do that😅. I have tried two small speakers other than my phone but it didn’t help. Hopefully this is feasible for you. Thanks! Keep Riding
@shuvoroy6692 8 ай бұрын
The audio on these videos!!I can't put my finger on it.why is it so perfect? Almost asmr ish😅 It is refreshing tbh
@motorinc 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@marksanyal 9 ай бұрын
Please turn Kartikeya's mind blown hums into a meme.
@tahmidjahan487 9 ай бұрын
I love the way you guys discuss loved you guys as a Bangladeshi💛
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Hey TJ! That’s awesome! ❤️
@sohamdeo8926 9 ай бұрын
hey motorinc guys , pls suggest what should i buy , bullet 350 or HD X440 (mid variant ) , cause i like riding both of them
@imur_m4618 9 ай бұрын
Love these podcasts
@Amol2104 9 ай бұрын
Only you guys can do a 45 min review of an electric scooter which I think, not many people will consider buying in India. But loved this conversation style first ride impressions which is fresh and engaging every time.
@puneethmys152 9 ай бұрын
The design of X with the amazing 160 4V engine of TVS would have been amazing and the price would have also been justified.
@abhinavkumar4824 9 ай бұрын
is the warp mode really worth it , to pay 10k more for ather 450x2.9 rather than 450s and which one one do you think is better 450 s or tvs iqube
@Ghanshyam.s 9 ай бұрын
fabulous intro
@sarveshlr110 7 ай бұрын
What is a best step-through bike in India, I will always like to have the weight upfront for better balance, plz suggest.
@raghunandanpai 9 ай бұрын
Great conversation convinced me to HOLD from booking X at this point. Does this have anything in common with BMW Counterparts?
@biswajitpaul793 9 ай бұрын
Enjoyed a lot! ❤
@ankithhebbar7542 9 ай бұрын
By chemical magic do you mean phase change materials(PCM) which remain solid when the temperature is low and turn into liquid and transfer the heat to the surrounding casing when temperature starts to rise?
@adilmir3967 9 ай бұрын
I was eagerly waiting for a review of Himalayan 452 this week. Hopefully next week.
@rakshit8454 9 ай бұрын
My naughty nephew does change the modes while riding on the ola and it's sometimes troublesome. The seamless mode changing should at least make us get off the throttle before we can change the modes.
@yashshukla6514 9 ай бұрын
Please make a video on rtr310 it's now in india we want to know what is upcoming from tvs since they have not launch a bigger bike with their partnership with bmw after rr310
@ankitmahapatra8921 9 ай бұрын
May we know the reason why there is no FIRST for RTR 310. I am waiting for it so eagerly
@BH-RUM 9 ай бұрын
i want to hear your first ride experience about all the vehicles you test but 45 mins. I mean a person who is really looking to buy this will definitely see this but someone who is just interested in thoughts about the machine wants something more compact, please can you upload one more vide with your first rides which a little compact a cover all the goodies from the full episode?
@sankeshpai2240 9 ай бұрын
Waiting for simple one. Have booked the scooter for my great great grand son..
@avezkhan8530 9 ай бұрын
Please make a video on Honda cb300f. Because it's cheaper now. Worth buying or not ?
@Techno_Babble 9 ай бұрын
What's Shumi's opinion on the front design for the front number plate? The design breaks character from the sleek front that was seen in Creon.
@KaranSumbbly 9 ай бұрын
This vs River Indie which one and why ?
@technofete 9 ай бұрын
U mentioned the change of modes only once the throttle is closed, I mean tat is the exact thing RR310 does. Not sure why they haven't implemented tat on TVS X 😅
@haridasification 9 ай бұрын
Super review
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@sahilguryani7621 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, i own a RE classic 350 from the last 8 years and this is the first time Himalayan is seeming to be really appealing
@devathinnithin1371 9 ай бұрын
is there any hope for ice variant of this vehicle?
@pranay220 9 ай бұрын
Cooling might something similar to what phone processors are doing. It's a evaporative cooling systems, with a chemical that evaporates at a certain temp to take the heat with it. No motor to move the liquid.
@ChaitanyaAtre1096 9 ай бұрын
i would say if TVS is buidling a flagship EV at 2.25 lakh it will get compared to current flagship i.e. ather. in terms of range being 140 ARAI meaning 100 on road and max speed 105 doesnt have much difference from ather 450x . there has to be other selling point for TVS X if range and speed are same as ather . but as video mentioned this might not be india centric and has global audience and pricing in mind.
@Cosmic_Gypsy 9 ай бұрын
Is it possible to keep a model of the car/bike in the studio while talking about the vehicle? I know that beats the purpose of podcast. But there are pics being shown here n there anyways..so.. just a thought.
@kenadams5227 5 ай бұрын
23:50 Shumi: no, economy mode or whatever Production team: *Stealth*, **xtealth** You know the team has fun bts when they pull stuff like this on final edits😂😂😂🙌🏼❤️
@venumadhava9514 9 ай бұрын
Why no one is making a video on Ola S1 pro gen 2. .😢 eagerly waiting.
@pankajkulkarni6722 9 ай бұрын
New to the channel, really liked thoughtful discussion. I get irritated a lot by other channels that are in your face, loud all the time. Glad this is not like that, thanks!
@vedanttoke20 9 ай бұрын
Cann you please do one on the taigun?
@yashtripathi3221 9 ай бұрын
Like comment then watch for every video, so much trust on u guys 💖.
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Thank so very much YT!
@Icyorion1509 9 ай бұрын
Can I purchase this vehicle without buying a charger and charge with whatever I have or I need to purchase a changer from them. The reason for the question is , if I can only charge the vehicle with the proprietary charger then the on road cost has to reflect the price including the charger. It’s like selling a vehicle without a fuel hole and say I will charge you for a fuel hole and extra for a bigger hole fuel tank.
@amitchakrabarti1403 9 ай бұрын
When is the TVS Apache electric coming?
@yashshukla6514 9 ай бұрын
How competent rtr310 with the 400 or 300cc bikes .rtr is less powerful than 400cc and some 300 are more powerful than 310 and its vibrate a lot.I want to know what as a company they are doing when everyone is competing in sub 300 and at 400
@madtvm 9 ай бұрын
The only reason I would buy this is to race it in the EV class of the Nashik Monsoon Scooter Rally... Hope this one is more dynamic offroad than the Ather in terms of power and stability for which i consider the Ather 450x as a benchmark...
@aDi7997 9 ай бұрын
Loved the analysis, precise and crisp as always❤. One minor suggestion - the colour grading can be slightly warmer, this is quite cold..
@Valquent 9 ай бұрын
Would like to see you guys in bright Pink and Yellow outfits someday!😅 It might brighten up my whole week!😂 Loved the video as always!❤
@dochardiksolanki 9 ай бұрын
Bit too apologetic for TVS, but some times being blunt is better then pulling the punch. Might help TVS make better X-cube!
@kiransampathnr1 9 ай бұрын
If I want a fast enough scooter we have NTorq from TVS it self and then we have Ather 450X. Why would I want to spend 3L for the TVS X?
@prakashkothakurasivenkatar2915 9 ай бұрын
Before going with other details, just by seeing it as a normal Indian my feedback would be , we can't carry either a 15 liters water container or a Gas cylinder which is required for our Indian Ad-hoc requirements😊.
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Any scooter that discourages you from carrying LPG cylinders around… is a good thing in our books 😊
@rishabhs103 9 ай бұрын
@@motorinchahahahah nice
@VeganSanatani 9 ай бұрын
Wow.. don't know about you guys, but the price to performance ratio kinda looks like abysmal.. But still waiting for your thoughts on the RTR 310
@shantanu_d 9 ай бұрын
Glad that we share the same thoughts about TVS and also share the concern/dislike with their focus towards gizmos, X and RTR 310 alike. The X was launched in UAE, which isn't a two-wheeler country, since that time it has dropped off my radar anyway. But as you said, a POC it is. I might be wrong but is TVS indicating that models launched outside India are "international" models, they don' have the Indian market as it its primary objective ? I hope the core engineering brilliance doesn't get sidelined for the sake of "cool".
@fanmade3d 9 ай бұрын
Hi Kartik, I liked your shoes, 😅 can I get a link to buy it 😊
@krishnasingh5355 9 ай бұрын
When you gonna bring the rtr 310 motorinc first?
@MessiahManiac 9 ай бұрын
Where the Himalayan First ride impression?? Koi na. I was waiting since 9:30 lol
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@vishwanathstorm 9 ай бұрын
As a consumer, f I am looking for an electric scooter which has lower cost of running, maintenance, is environment friendly and importantly fun to ride - why would I shell out 3.4L on this electric scooter, when the existing players can offer value for money options currently in the market?
@rushabhmane 9 ай бұрын
When are you gonna review/ first ride tvs rtr 310. Please do it soon
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
No dates on test bikes just yet Rushabh 🤷🏽♂️
@bosu1855 7 ай бұрын
just looking for a 300cc or an equivalent electric scooty which i can do long rides on. does it seem to be a big ask?
@motorinc 7 ай бұрын
At the moment, it's not a big ask. It's impossible
@Dhruv-_-0. 9 ай бұрын
No Motorinc First should not be released! Beyond the product itself generally you both have much else to share as well. Love to hear all of that.
@Shreejansurya98 9 ай бұрын
Where is RTR310 Video?
@joelmuppidi 9 ай бұрын
Can you guys do cb300r impression? It recently launched with bs6 ii
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We can. But Honda doesn’t have test bikes for us yet 🤷🏽♂️
@OmFreeRadical 9 ай бұрын
& a 30-40 k price cut right?
@Dheeeeraj 9 ай бұрын
Wow never knew the nerdy geeky nature of engineers at TVS! No wonder our Scooty & Apache lasted for more than a decade!
@georgeroy9806 9 ай бұрын
Hey what happened, you guys are later than usual, ooooh and i wanted ask something else, have you guys fixed on a schedule for uploading the long form video's? I know it's on Tue, Thur and Sun, but some weeks it's view on Tuesday, first impressions on Thursday & advice/philosophical take on sunday, and on other weeks it's flipped, just curious to know if it's fluid or are you thinking of creating a schedule?
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We don’t really work towards a schedule George. We do release Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays at 0930. But it’s mostly because it’s convenient for us. There’s no specific agenda for any of these days really
@georgeroy9806 9 ай бұрын
@@motorinc oki, cool, thanks!
@abhidoddmani5773 9 ай бұрын
Connecting the additional lights to the imu is not very useful as majority of the time these are ridden in the city hooking it up with the steering would be much more helpfull as it will useful in the city it worked iffy on the xoom and I have feeling its the same on the x
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We shall test this thoroughly and let you know if how those lights performed in the city.
@2751Jackson 9 ай бұрын
Gym bro was spot-on. I always used to think the same way also their old Intruder😂😂😂
@pramodbhat8320 9 ай бұрын
please extend your jingle music........😊
@YohannhDavid 9 ай бұрын
if this was to be a halo product i think tvs should have gone further with the performance. or maybe built a electric motorcycle that would compete with the f77. the x dosent really give a comepling reason for anyone to buy it
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We do think electric scooters are better than electric motorcycles for the moment as complete products... and yes, we do agree that TVS could have pushed performance further for sure
@kapaleshwarC1 9 ай бұрын
Do the RTR 310 please!!!
@rakeshprashantladi674 9 ай бұрын
Folks, is there a video where Motorinc talks about Honda CB 350? Currently confused between Triump 400, Harley 440x, RE Meteor 350 and Honda CB 350 Highness.
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We are yet to test the Honda CB 350.
@rakeshprashantladi674 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊 Love your work. Keep going! 🎉
@sandesh9225 9 ай бұрын
Any idea when can we get a video on rtr310???
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We are awaiting test bikes and we shall upload a video as soon as we get the bike and test it.
@sandesh9225 9 ай бұрын
@@motorinc I hope they do share that before releasing it to us fingers crossed 🤞🏽
@sairammiriyala 9 ай бұрын
I would love an Ntorq 160 with this design..!
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
🤜🏽🤛🏽
@HellDiver_02 9 ай бұрын
This product is a part of TVS joint Venture with BMW. I don't think TVS can solely on their own develop such product this early
@sachincherian23 7 ай бұрын
Will TVS bring an ICE Version of this scooter ?
@amandas1383 9 ай бұрын
When can we expect a review of RTR 310?
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
No dates for test bikes yet Aman
@vinaychinthla314 9 ай бұрын
I need motoinc first ride impressions on day one of reviews
@rohankolekar7879 9 ай бұрын
Himalayan 452?
@Krish-wc1yz 9 ай бұрын
Why no rtr310 for discussion?
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
We are yet to test it.
@HP-to4dv 9 ай бұрын
Hey Guys! Did you get a chance to see the Aprilia RS 457?
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Not yet.
@darshith446 9 ай бұрын
If this scooter was ICE. Against AEROX it would be a blast Man. and if value proposition is good then it would be amazing
@therandomreacher 9 ай бұрын
I watch this channel for aesthetically spiritual purpose :)
@vbanner 9 ай бұрын
You should've put a 'X' counter in the video, a small one at the top or bottom corner...
@motorinc 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps yes
@abhijitboruah1116 9 ай бұрын
Waiting for 10th November
@anmolkale16 9 ай бұрын
The issue with X being a global product is that the range is laughably small for somewhere like US and EU and so is that topspeed
@UjjwalPratapSingh45 7 ай бұрын
Design busy-ness challanging RS200 (Most design per vehicle award) but i like both.
@yashwanthsaiYASHU 20 күн бұрын
Why did u say it isn't exciting as Ather when the acceleration is quicker than Ather? I don't understand that..!! 🤔
@AdityaRaj-lb2gl 9 ай бұрын
Is it a bad thing that I have stopped watching all other reviews of products from other places? I was so used to camera moving to different angles and showing things which would make me exited about buying the product but now I watch these two talking in 2x and can decide wheather I want this product or not.
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