2025 US & UK Carrier Groups vs 2025 Chinese & Russian Carrier Groups (Naval Battle 87)

2025 US & UK Carrier Groups vs 2025 Chinese & Russian Carrier Groups (Naval Battle 87) | DCS

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We simulate a naval battle with US and UK carrier strike groups versus China and Russia. Aircraft involved are F-35 Lightning C and B variants, Mig-29KR and J-15B. Major missiles involved are YJ-21 Hypersonic, YJ-18 and P-800 Oniks Supersonic, Naval Strike Missile and LRASM stealth anti-ship missiles.
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0:00 Intro
1:25 Overview
3:34 Scenario Details
10:57 Predictions
14:11 FIGHT!
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@wodenbyers2793 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a sim run with Cargos deploying the US Rapid Dragons in a wargame simulation. As some sort of preemptive/nuclear retaliation conventional assault on either China or Russia.

@haunter_1845 Жыл бұрын

The Grim Reapers did a Rapid Dragon strike on the Black Sea Fleet last week which was great.

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

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@IetsgoBrandon Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers I wonder if a battle between kirov and type 055 can be made, please?

@lukeallison3713 Жыл бұрын

@@IetsgoBrandon Depends which Kirov, what version. The nakmimov coming out of refit would probably anihalate the 055, it’s meant to have 80 antis ship vls for zircon, kalibr, oniks, and the 96 cell revolver vls will remain plus polymet redut so basically all Russian aa missiles can be used between the two systems, including the quad pack missiles that go in the redut system

@cyronader Жыл бұрын

@@lukeallison3713 can the Russians afford to fully load the Kirov with all its missiles?

@SirSmurfalot Жыл бұрын

To be more realistic, you should have the Russian carrier randomly take a sharp turn to port and sink from internal explosions.

@callofduty732 Жыл бұрын

😭😭😭

@callofduty732 Жыл бұрын

This is gold this made my morning 😂

@kebabremover970 Жыл бұрын

In reality, the entire crew, upon seeing the order to engage the US Navy, will file for dismissal and leave, which were written and signed a couple of weeks before the order. The entire fleet will remain anchored at base.

@KJ-iy3ex Жыл бұрын

@すし Out of curiosity, not disagreeing; what is super off with this? Aside from the odd AI behavior. I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know. I just recently found DCS and have started down the addictive road of learning about Aviation/Naval/Missile technology.

@noncekilla8848 Жыл бұрын

Not really, most across the globe people support Russia, most people don’t like Nazis

@deeptoxd816 Жыл бұрын

This guy makes us feel extremely valued

@grouchitis Жыл бұрын

He could bring us cookies too

@RickTait Жыл бұрын

i personally really enjoy being called a viewington

@Chironex_Fleckeri Жыл бұрын

@@RickTait HMS Viewington should be a RN QE class in a future video.

@mikeg1433 Жыл бұрын

When I first started watching, I thought he was saying “valley viewers”. It’s one of my funniest stories.

@mm3mm3 Жыл бұрын

That’s why I come here day after day lol

@chadhagans6687 Жыл бұрын

Cap moderately frustrated = incredible quotes. 31:50 “Crazy maverick British pilot going nuts. Likes to play with swords. Going into a dog fight. With a gun. He doesn’t have. And he’s dead. Rightfully so… he’s a knob!” Fell free to post your favorite GR quote…

@chadhagans6687 Жыл бұрын

36:30 Fly “SNEAKY! Fly RTB.”

@stash_of_g 5 ай бұрын

" even thoug he doesnt have a gun he's goes into a dogfight, ladies and gentlemen i give you the BriTiSH !! " 😂 27:53

@danh6720 8 ай бұрын

Where is the Kuznetsov’s tug?

@thetorturepenguin Жыл бұрын

27:56 'Oh even though he doesn't have a gun he's going into a dogfight... Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the British!' The most British quote ever.

@ZDarabos 2 күн бұрын

Brits had a soldier storming nazis with a sword in WW2. This is the British spirit!

@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын

Sock being so eager and happy about shooting down a lightning is hilarious especially since all the enemies missiles except for the ballistic ones are sea skimming

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Yeh, I was thinking the same as it happened...

@5Andysalive Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers Maybe he just secretly hates the british navy? The military guys can be very competetive (hence the shooting at each other thing).

@tolifeimmortalsans9483 Жыл бұрын

Shoot everything ask questions later that's a sock problem lol

@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын

@@5Andysalive he let the missile guidance system talk him into it

@dampsok Жыл бұрын

@noahraines992 the missile knows where it is at all times... too bad the pilot doesnt....

@MRAWESOME22 Жыл бұрын

FireDad would have been taken out if Cap didn't warn him, thinking that he was toast. But by warning FireDad at the last minute, Fire was able to jink and evade. This then allowed him to take out some LRASMs. Cap has gotten better at not divulging too much, but it's so frustrating when he does. Sometimes you can hear the frustration in Simba's voice, too, when he is deprived of a kill due to the warning Cap gives.

@ChristopherMallonMusic Жыл бұрын

It wouldn't surprise me much if every time he said "oh there's a thing" every human immediately goes evasive lol.

@MRAWESOME22 Жыл бұрын

@@ChristopherMallonMusic Yea. He has gotten better about it, but I bet if he thought of things to say when he sees an exciting human-involved interaction, it would be better and he would have less of an impact on the match. Maybe just use the same vague phrase for both AI and human. Like, "Oooo look at this valued viewers!"

@ChristopherMallonMusic Жыл бұрын

@@MRAWESOME22 I'd set it up so while the microphone is always on for recording, it was push-to-talk to talk to his people, so they don't hear every single thing he says. But it's still entertaining, either way! :)

@smilemore1997 9 ай бұрын

@@ChristopherMallonMusicshe dude. This is how it should have been from the start.

@Wraice619 Жыл бұрын

I laughed harder than I probably should have at, "He's going into a dogfight with a gun he doesn't have. Ladies and gentlemen I give you the British!" 😂

@tbe0116 Жыл бұрын

Most impressive battle yet. Great work!

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

thx

@connorjohnson4402 Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers Cant wait to see how the Multi threading update that just came out will effect your guys' battles! I saw someone else's video recently where they dropped some CBU's and it didn't turn into a 10fps slide show so fingers crossed it will be great for you guys!

@roddywarren8261 Жыл бұрын

great work. In reality the US and British would operate in a combined carrier group thus adding their combined defense/offense and off setting any weaknesses of the British group. That would be a good simulation to run.

@gregs7562 9 ай бұрын

Agreed. Assumjng this was in the Pacific there would also likely be RAN Hobart aegis equipped frigates plus ships from ROK & JMSDF. SAM frenzy. Not that the RN would ever have all 6 T45 at see at the same time let alone the same group 😬

@chrisparnham 9 ай бұрын

@@gregs7562 Yeah, but it was a simulation there wouldn't be much chance of the Russian carrier group being with the Chinese group. Quite a lot of the simulation is never going to actually happen in real life it's made for entertainment purposes. The British carrier group when it did venture into the Pacific had the Type 45 Destroyers, the new Type 26 and Type 23 frigates as well as an Aegis destroyer from the US and I believe a Norwegian frigate. That's how NATO will operate in future.

@cjjk9142 5 ай бұрын

ye honestly isn't great as the uk strike group would never be 6 destroyers more like 3 and 2-3 frigates and a submarine

@1nternetToughGuy 4 ай бұрын

It would be too short lol they would just walk over any navy on earth

@kimjonglongdong3158 3 ай бұрын

@@chrisparnhamif you’re talking about CSG21 with regards to makeup of the British group, the T26 isn’t in service till 2028 (iirc) so definitely wasn’t a part of it.

@paulybassman7311 Жыл бұрын

Thanks GR and SuperCap for maximum awesomeness

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul!

@bacon81 10 ай бұрын

Those Commies right now: “But Ma HyPeRsOnIc Missles!!!” 🤣

@ForestBlue7 Жыл бұрын

Well done Grim Reapers, appreciate all the hard work!

@mclane5472 Жыл бұрын

Cap and the whole GR team, thx for continuously creating such good and enjoyable content. I have found the channel i think like 1 year ago and watched so many of your videos, even going back into some of a few years ago and i love them. You guys are amazingly skilled, have great teamwork and the energy you have with each other is just so much fun. I can't name all of you guys that i have seen fly in your videos, so if any of you see this, i just wanted to thank you all and let's go Grim Reapers!

@OscarZheng50 Жыл бұрын

man the LRASM evading the gunshots from bird was so cool, the LRASM like ignored the bullets and focused on its mission

@mcpousnret Жыл бұрын

Cap, always the very best in DCS info. Thank you and the entire GR group. Retired US Navy

@jacobystonecypher791 Жыл бұрын

Very fun to watch! Thank you for putting in the time to make such an awesome battle simulation. You guys are awesome!

@tagginondawal3961 Жыл бұрын

I love this channel. I recently found it about a week ago, and I really like these simulations! Thank you for the hard work!

@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын

You have some fun catching up to do! Personally I suggest going back no further then 6mos to 1yr in their back catalogue, before this time they didn't have the tools in game or talent out of game to script battles nearly as well, nor the weapons systems working properly. Mind you some of the 1yr old WW2 naval battle sims are just fantastic to watch as well at the 1-1.5yr mark. Either way, enjoy!

@mknorthwestoutdoors5300 Жыл бұрын

I would be interested in what this looks like with submarines properly included in the strike groups.

@nathaniellazo5912 Жыл бұрын

Running late to the match, these massive battles are my favorite matches you guys do, this will be good!! Let's go US/UK

@ronjeremy5826 Жыл бұрын

Shut up, clown

@nathaniellazo5912 Жыл бұрын

That was probably the most impressive match I have seen you guys do so far. You couldn't even keep your eyes on everything going on!!

@juliodyarzagaray Жыл бұрын

Soon Japan will join them.

@wolfgangkranek376 Жыл бұрын

In the real world, Russia and China: Fack around and find out.

@brilobox2 Жыл бұрын

@@wolfgangkranek376 cope.

@DannyBoyZero Жыл бұрын

I've been on this channel for about two days now, and I've watched six or seven vids. I really don't know how much behind the curtain work you guys put into scenario modeling because I don't know anything about the program you're using. Having said that, the people involved are all top tier and the videos themselves are amazing. If you put half the work into the behind the scenes stuff that y'all are putting into gaming the scenarioes themselves you're the hardest working crew on KZfaq.

@kkeil9449 9 ай бұрын

I agree, and videos like this i don't pay attention to, but the level of detail & commentary makes this video very entertaining.

@johnoverton979 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Cap! It's good to see the technology get better and better. I can't wait to see what you guys do with multi-threading coming out soon.

@azpilotd4351 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always, the best yet! Thank you for all of that.

@ThuhElement Жыл бұрын

When Grim gets excited with pride, so do I!! I just love all these videos and appreciate the time and effort that is involved in this! Well done!

@mxracer158 Жыл бұрын

Great simulation. Modeling worked very well. Thanks for putting that together. Lots of hours for sure.

@cassius_eu5970 Жыл бұрын

The modeling on Chinese ships regarding LRASMs is off. If a plane with its tiny radar can see it, then these ships with massive radars would get a radar lock at some point too. The fact that there's no missiles and not even CWIS shooting at them looks like a pretty important bug in these scenarios.

@gibbo_303 Жыл бұрын

@@cassius_eu5970 true but keep in mind planes have time to lock the missiles, by the time ships see the missiles, get a lock and can properly react the missiles is already too close, probably is a bug tho as some would be intercepted

@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын

Modelling? What modelling? 100% success rate bringing down ASMs? No missile failures? No human error? I don't detect any modelling going on - just scripts and triggers.

@hanrockabrand95 Жыл бұрын

@@cassius_eu5970 Maybe they were out of missiles or something, but there was CWIS. Cap even mentions it at 51:53

@hanrockabrand95 Жыл бұрын

@@LondonSteveLee That's quite the accusation, and not backed up by the video. There were plenty of missiles losing track, missing, or blowing too short. The only reason the blues caught each missile is they flooded the sky with overkill. And I don't know what human errors you're looking for, but the Gerald Ford gets its flight deck completely gummed up, and Sock even shoots down a friendly. Did you watch the whole thing before trashing their hard work?

@strambino1 Жыл бұрын

Reapers make the best Videos!! So glad I’ve been tuning in the last few years to see these videos become amazingly detailed and more realistic as the years go by.

@rickjames18 Жыл бұрын

One of the best I've seen to date, thank you to everyone involved, really appreciate the battle.

@frenchroast1355 Жыл бұрын

As fascinating as the battles are, my favorite portion is when Cap gets so friggin excited.

@iloverbk1 Жыл бұрын

Mine as well, it adds to the fun to hear his voice crack with enthusiasm. Totally addicted.

@mshahmirraza Жыл бұрын

I mentioned in the previous video and I am gonna do it again that LRASMs seem invincible and cannot be intercepted even at close ranges by HHQ-10. Weird thing is the same LRASMs were visible on J-15s radar 20-30 miles away but more powerful radars on Destroyers couldn't pick them up.

@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын

yeah even a Russian frigate could track and hit them, even though they're not designed primarily for air defense. I suspect its got something to do with reaction times on chinese ships having been carried over from the Type 052C and not upgraded to modern standards, or its a combination of HQ9Bs having a minimum range thats too long to engage, and HHQ10s not facing the right direction to defend. More testing should be done to find the root cause.

@Mgaming61 Жыл бұрын

Needs fixing I guess

@CaptainSpacedOut Жыл бұрын

They're sea skimming missiles. They fly below radar. Plus they shot down the awacs. It's a stealth missile that flies below radar. Can't see it until it's too late.

@mshahmirraza Жыл бұрын

@@hughmungus2760 Yeah I agree. Plus Chinese destroyers not only carry the long range HHQ-9s but also the short to medium range HHQ-16s. But I haven't seen them use HHQ-16s in this simulation.

@mshahmirraza Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainSpacedOut You are right they are sea skimming and stealthy but there are limitations. At very close ranges of 10 to 20 NMs these missiles should be intercepted. When CIWS can engage them why can't HHQ-10s? Also the effectiveness of Chinese CIWS in this mod has been poor.

@KOS762 Жыл бұрын

This was an Epic battle. It was exciting and fun to watch. Thanks for all the time you all spent to make this game above and beyond the original design.

@green_2159 Жыл бұрын

Let’s frickin go! Best video yet, huge battle, but I’m glad the server held up.

@kenjamincollins Жыл бұрын

I love these! Have you looked at adding the Zumwalt class under its new purpose with hypersonic missiles, as a guided missile destroyer?

@TheRealSteve42 Жыл бұрын

They finally repurposed those useless things? Wasn't its sole design still meant to be a coastal ship though, which is wear it's fancy reduced RCS design came from? That would kind of make it useless in a fleet defense position

@kenjamincollins Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSteve42 They cancelled the AGS and now are focusing it as a stealthy missile truck. I feel like its now more of an offensive option with only having three of them, so the US Navy can experiment with with that ideology.

@342Rodry Жыл бұрын

what a massive CPU effort, awesome battle !

@Ryebread3325 Жыл бұрын

This was one of the best videos I've seen in a while. Appreciate the hard work and content.

@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын

That was amazing. Edge of the seat stuff for the whole thing. Huge Props. Luv and Peace.

@betariffic1 Жыл бұрын

This is fantastic, seeing them in a constrained geographic area with land based air and missiles in a scenario would be cool too, now that you have the pitched open ocean battle mastered

@VimyScout Жыл бұрын

Brilliant battle absolutely epic. Well done guys 👍

@jordannewsom4578 Жыл бұрын

I love these types of videos for some reason. I love all GR’s stuff but these simulated naval battles and the many different scenarios they’ve tested are SOO fkn interesting to me for some reason idk why I live them so damn much but I do!!

@mikkelhanson4001 Жыл бұрын

I’ve got one addition for your naval sims, one rouge Japanese 16 SS class submarine! Of course to run a sim large enough to incorporate submarine warfare to include all of the other ships, plus continued engagement would need to be massive, and wouldn’t even want to fathom that! Y’all do great sims, and really love your push for accuracy and unbiased approach. Just know that the hard work that y’all do beforehand doesn’t go unnoticed nor unappreciated! Thank you!

@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing and been waiting for ages. Thank you so much for the effort, but I still do not understand why the UK is only deploying 24 F-35 when in any scenario like this it'll be closer to 40 and why the US Navy has so few F-35 when the intent is to have the majority of aircraft on the US Carriers as F-35s by mid-20s.

@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын

@@calebjohnson6423 standard load when not expecting an operation, correct. But in any situation like this where it is high-threat, they will field at least 36 F-35 but more likely over 40 or even as high as 50. US numbers you posted are how many are intended to be bought, not how many will be on a ship. In any high-threat scenario like this, the suggestion is at least a 50/50 split but it can be as high as 75/25 to the F-35 depending on the mission.

@godalmighty83 Жыл бұрын

@@calebjohnson6423 Yes, standard load. Not wartime loadout, which is 36, surge capacity is 'over 65', however 1/3rd of those would be Helos.

@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын

@@godalmighty83 exactly this.

@watcherzero5256 Жыл бұрын

US is planning 50/50 F-35/F-18 with the F-18 then being replaced by Naval NGAD. US airforce have also said they plan to have around 1000 Loyal Wingman drones in a 2:1 ratio with 200 Airforce NGAD and 300 F-35.

@ogodei70 Жыл бұрын

@@calebjohnson6423 Also the US Marines would deploy F 35B's off the UK carrier, boosting numbers.

@JamoHenso Жыл бұрын

Love the grind you guys have

@Pimps-R-us Жыл бұрын

The best part for me was at 25:37 when cap said " What's really important is the ship combat " . My most favorite thing to watch in DCS is the ship combat. It is only bettered by Cap's Boyish excitement he adds to the videos. Thanks Cap.

@bardslee 11 ай бұрын

So when we tested the asta-30 against hypersonic missiles. The type 45 had a 100% kill rate.

@colewall1777 Жыл бұрын

Your commitment to the science of modern warfare and the art of the acm is an inspiration to us all

@jakelee2861 Жыл бұрын

Honestly having two commentators is a great choice

@alexkingvideo 10 ай бұрын

This is absolutely mad and I loved every second of it 👏🏼 Thank you

@MrTmax74 Жыл бұрын

Wow, this was amazing. Thanks for all your hard work and time you put into it. I have to admit, I was pretty nervous there for a while. But now I feel a little stressed out about our superiority at sea. But I trust that the powers that be know what they’re doing out there.

@OPF2remydk Жыл бұрын

Awesome work getting this together. I'd be interested to see you put a flight of blue anti shippers at the beginning.

@ecbst6 Жыл бұрын

Heh, not only did Kuznetsov catch fire, like, 30 times, even the dry docks themselves were a trainwreck in a dumpster fire.

@timothy1949 Жыл бұрын

to be honest, that thing would be quite useless in modern combat lol apart from some sort of "anti terrorist" mission like they did in sryia russia just doesnt have the funding...

@Tabacish Жыл бұрын

@@timothy1949 Yes, the difficult task of dumb bombing villages without any SAM abilities...

@ecbst6 Жыл бұрын

@@timothy1949 See, I started wondering about drone and AI modernization. Drop all the manned aircraft capability completely, shift to drone/AI... Hmmmmm 🤔

@AlphaAurora Жыл бұрын

At this points, its utility will be shooting additional Shipwreck SSMs.

@Tabacish Жыл бұрын

@@ecbst6 Lol, only modernization in the Russian navy is of the admirals cars and house appliances...

@tinaphillips7239 Жыл бұрын

That was an intense and awesome simulation! I do something extremely similar at home but I use 3D printed ships, planes and helicopters with their own individual stat cards and play that way.

@Kevin-hb7yq Жыл бұрын

Cool battle!! All the boom, with stuff and things. Cheers to the beautiful people!

@mrnourking Жыл бұрын

no words to describe this, it's awesome.

@tomejkol1 Жыл бұрын

wait.. it was 2021!?!?!?! Time goes too fast

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

I know right?

@kenhelmers2603 Жыл бұрын

What a ton of work! Great stuff :)

@stav1369 Жыл бұрын

Honestly I just smash the like button before watching these videos now. They are that good! Amazing stuff

@ThatSkyPlayer7683 Жыл бұрын

This is getting better than Hollywood movies.

@leighgordon9311 Жыл бұрын

The Russian carrier’s new configuration is ‘not on fire’. This is considered its biggest upgrade to date.

@steveturner3999 Жыл бұрын

This was exciting! Love your enthusiasm Cap!

@nashonwesonga4480 Жыл бұрын

Wow this is incredible work and the battle was the best I’ve seen 💪🏿

@Davros-vi4qg Жыл бұрын

Oh, it’s the BIG one. Redfor vs Blufor, let’s go!

@splatoonistproductions5345 Жыл бұрын

It’s gonna be incredible to think that the uk’s fleet will be taking some major steps up in the near future, here’s hoping the type 83 has a load more weapons of all kinds and can take on hyper sonics and assist other ships to doing to. personally I hope we get more destroyers than the type 45’s, maybe just an extra 2-3 making 9 at most, and who knows maybe increasing the other ship type numbers from the currently promised numbers of 8 type 26 frigates, 5 type 31 and 5 type 32’s. And hopefully by then the us will actually deliver a significant number of f35’s for the uk, rate of delivery is appalling imo atm.

@splatoonistproductions5345 Жыл бұрын

@@flashgordon6670 but then what will operate on our carriers? and besides, since when does an aircraft 1 gen ahead of another make it obsolete? nations around the world still use gen 4 planes like f15-18’s, eurofighters and many others, prolly till the 6th gen aircraft get half way through their relevant lifetime.

@bobpage6597 Жыл бұрын

If the Treasury bean-counters get their way, you can forget anymore Destroyers. If you might recall, we were supposed to get 12 Type 45 destroyers in the original plan. Typical it was cut down to 8, then a final cut to 6! Disgraceful!!

@bobclack3256 Жыл бұрын

@@splatoonistproductions5345 "since when does an aircraft 1 gen ahead of another make it obsolete?" not obsolete, but a massive disadvantage, a hundred miles of a head start for 5th gen stealth aircraft is a death sentence for 4th gen.

@danhodson7187 Жыл бұрын

@@bobpage6597 This! I'd like us to have big missile cruisers, but absolutely no chance!

@bobpage6597 Жыл бұрын

@@danhodson7187 Nah we'd never get them. Ideally we need more of everything - subs, frigates and destroyers. But we'll never get it. Lefties are already up in arms over the £5 billion increase announced for defence. TBH, £5 billion means nothing if it isn't going to expand our capability in some very noticeable way. And that's what irritates me - it'll likely just get pissed up the wall! But yeah, lets spend £150 billion on a poxy fucking high speed rail we don't actually fucking need!!! Priorities all wrong, heaven forbid this country has a credible defence procurement and strategy!!

@MichaelMeyer93 Жыл бұрын

This was incredible! Was on the edge of my seat on several occasions

@SuperiorAutocraft Жыл бұрын

Really well done. Most engaging battle so far.

@harrisone79 Жыл бұрын

I really wish submarines could be used in these scenarios. Good chance both Ivan and the chicomms would lose their carriers before their whole airwings could launch.

@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын

ASW helos would probably take out the subs long before they can get in range for torpedoes. And sub launched cruise missiles are pretty easy to shoot down.

@harrisone79 Жыл бұрын

@@hughmungus2760 but the chicomms and Ivan prob have very poor asw capabilities especially in a blue water scenario. Also you don't need missles a torpedo set to go off under the keel has a very good chance of breaking the ships back. A sub is the sniper of the navy. Only need one shot to get the kill.

@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын

@@harrisone79 a torpedo has at best 30nm of range against a ship that isnt moving. If it has to chase a target, that range drops off to 10-15nm. A typical fleet in combat formation would be spread out so that a sub could never get more than 1-2 of them in a single torpedo volley. The moment your sub fires off a torpedo which is impossible to conceal. everyone in that fleet knows you're there and would pound you with ASW missiles and helicopters. Even assuming you manage to sink a ship in that fleet you lose your sub which costs Vastly more than any ship except the carrier. Its generally acknowledged that torpedoes are the last resort for any sub and a suicide option against superior numbers. Its like being a sniper that takes out one guy and gets artillery dropped on him 30 seconds later.

@zacherlandson3132 Жыл бұрын

Great video good job guys

@edyoung6573 Жыл бұрын

That was awesome!!! Your Hard work is much appreciated!!!! Hats off!!!

@michellecruzhickok6244 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this one. Thanks for all the unseen efforts.

@PotatoeJoe69 Жыл бұрын

The Kuznetsov is out of drydock for now, until it catches on fire again. 😅

@itsrocketscience9795 Жыл бұрын

i still find the effectiveness of LRASM a bit overblown. ship radars are extremely big and powerful , so it should be able to detect lrasm pretty easily once it crosses the radar horizon. ECM in lrasm probably is the least of the concerns considering the ship's powerful radar would easily get a burn through.

@BlitzFromBehind Жыл бұрын

Agreed. They're too stealthy and do wayy to much damage.

@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын

Indeed, Type 45 can easily track F-35 at the maximum range dictated by the curvature of the earth. Smaller RCS means just that against big RADARs - doesn't mean you can't see them! It must be said though that the Chinese still run secondary VHF RADARs on the Type 055s and Type 052s to detect stealth aircraft so their X-band AESA RADARs are probably a generation or two behind the western ones.

@Ishawn.Ramaaj Жыл бұрын

Loved the video! Now that was awesome!

@fagalon9152 Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting a looooong time for this I'm going to enjoy this :)

@Jpwoody03 Жыл бұрын

I know you don't have it in yet butt for UK CSG I think it would have been interesting to see if you had put in the type 45 with the water refresh plus the sea ceptor refit so it would have 24x camm and 48 X aster 30 nt/bmd & type 26 I know that subs aren't in consideration but with 48 sea ceptor plus a 24 cell for FC/ASw and block V tomahawk wich has anti ship capability

@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын

No contract for ASTER 30 NT has been signed yet. Still in the air.

@ecbst6 Жыл бұрын

Setting my morning coffee to Maximum BoomBoom.

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

lols

@DeNFlix... Жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to watching this tonight, cheers guys.

@jamison884 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Cap, GR, and Current Hill!

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Thanks Super J!

@mfreed40k Жыл бұрын

Woo hoo! Can't wait for this to unfold. GR is the best R in my opinion.

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Being best R is important.

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers ..”R” for Realist 😊

@willwozniak2826 Жыл бұрын

Round 2...FIGHT! OUTSTANDING.

@Kevin-rg7kl Жыл бұрын

Well-done, Cap and team! This is an incredible achievement. The only thing I can think of to cap this off would be to simulate multiple instances and aggregate results statistically-- do you pay for the server/computing power per hour or per month? If feasible you could run this without humans a number of times in the background and compare stats to generate plausible ranges for pk etc. Could be interesting.

@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

This tremendous! Its the excitement of sport with the coolness of war tech. Love having time to sit and watch these

@shtorm2616 Жыл бұрын

It would have been fun to see the 80 LRASMs fired plus the blue's ship based ASHMs instead of just the 24 LRASMs that were fired and the British being 'un-maverick' but then again that'd probably be overkill. Still one of my fave videos so far keep up the good work!

@patricktho6546 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, should wipe out both carrier groups

@lightray706 Жыл бұрын

@@patricktho6546 kinda doubt it as russians have shown they can defend really well against Lrasms, so they'd probably stop at least 30.

@patricktho6546 Жыл бұрын

@@lightray706 different setup. Also with rearming they literally have to fight hundreds to have anything returning home

@sirukin7849 Жыл бұрын

This is by far the most impressive simulation of a carrier strike group fight yet. So much happening. It'd be interesting if you had the OPFOR controlled by players as well rather than AI to see if the outcome could be changed.

@cgnefarious5785 Жыл бұрын

There were humans on the Red team. I think it was four on each side. If they could get enough people to man every aircraft on both sides... now that would be something.

@accidentalactivist9633 Жыл бұрын

That was great viewing. Well done.

@michaellawrence6677 Жыл бұрын

This is going to be awesome. That was brilliant. Great job.

@doomer_to_boomer2402 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! Such a shame KZfaq monetisation policy is a mess.

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Yes agreed.

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

..agreed, if possible please support Cap and the guys via their Patreon 😊

@jouniairplanevideos Жыл бұрын

Lovely video! I hope you can make more EU countries like the Dutch joining the US and UK CG

@jude_the_apostle Жыл бұрын

And that was one of eleven supercarriers...

@jonnybb Жыл бұрын

Damp Sock taking no prisoners, on either side. haha

@SATO_FD2R Жыл бұрын

I just finished watching the China vs USA vid for the first time, he said this video was in the works. And sure enough posted 50 minutes ago! 😆

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Good timing!

@danielm81 Жыл бұрын

This really was one of the greatest battles! Well done!

@danielm81 Жыл бұрын

BTW - subscribed!

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@salembeeman370 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding Sim - you guys rock!

@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын

Best naval battle I've ever seen simulated in DCS EVAR, and ending in a crushing blue victory! And it seemed to apply directly to the naval battle doctrines of both sides: Russian and Chinese heavy and high speed offence and not quite as strong defense, American (and presumably British) heavy defense and slow but stealthy offense. And in the end, stealth wins. If the battle went to the very end and down to the naval guns and short-range missiles, it would have been a 100% complete blue victory with few if any survivors on the red side, though the Russians might be killing a few Burkes before they went down. Fantastic job, thank you for your hard work and sharing the awesomeness with us, GR!

@bearcatracing007 Жыл бұрын

The real winner is the friendships made along the way..!!

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Good attitude!

@marinuslubbe3993 Жыл бұрын

Damn that was a big one! I feel like the best chance for the red team would be to fire all their Anti ship missiles at once in the begining to try and take out 1 carrier. Then they would have a big advantage, but they were firing them in waves instead. Also was the YJ21 nerfed ? It's terminal speed was like half than it was in the other videos. Also the British ships weren't even able to fire at them and now they were activly intercepting them.

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

We've changed YJ-21, apparently it's real life impact speed is going to be around mach 4. So it now slows as it gets lower.

@marinuslubbe3993 Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers I mean PLA's strategic support force official account on their weibo app stated that it has a mach 10 terminal speed . It has been covered by big media outlets like Eurasian times, South China morning post etc Obviously it is debatable whether that claim is true or not, but since in these simulations you go by public available figures the specs should match the officially stated ones.

@enzoking9043 Жыл бұрын

@@marinuslubbe3993 If the yj21 data is set correctly, the blue team is sure to lose. This battle will turn into carnage.

@marinuslubbe3993 Жыл бұрын

@@enzoking9043 yeah. I get the feeling any time China has an advantage somewhere they nerf it so it doesn't make a difference.

@The136th Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers Nah, the real life terminal speed is Mach 10, it doesn't need to slow down, as it's guided by Satellite

@Rednax42 Жыл бұрын

Great SIM. Well done by all involved (both live, and BTS). It does seem the actions of human players can tip the balance significantly, particularly taking out ASMs. However, I realize you guys want to have fun!

@brentdoty4516 Жыл бұрын

Well done, Cap and the team!

@Anstras1_431 Жыл бұрын

With the UK fleet layout, have you thought about making it with the UK type-26 and type-35 frigates as part of your 2020s carrier escort fleet? I know that their coming out in the back half of the decade but it’s just a though. The reality is that the UK fleet would not dedicate all of the Their Daring class in one strike group

@gregs7562 9 ай бұрын

Yup T45, T26/23 & T31. The upcoming refitted T45 layout is fantastic . All short range Aster scrapped for the long-range version & Quad packed CAMM. Something like 68 missiles. T26 & 31 to get the US vls system again with quad packed CAMM.