21 Cooling Fans On One 280mm Radiator! Does Fan Size Matter?

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Major Hardware

5 жыл бұрын

Have you ever seen those fan adapters, the things that let you take a 120mm fan and attach it to a 280mm rad. I always wondered why would you want to do that, Wouldn’t you be forfeiting performance by downsizing your fans? Ya, I didn’t know either so I decided to find out, I reached out to Noctua and asked them to send me over there best 140mm fan and there best 120mm fan. The fans they sent over were the NF-A14 and NF-A12x25, but I didn’t want to leave it at that. I thought, if smaller fans don’t matter what if you decided to go as small as possible, would that matter. I thought it would be a fun experiment so I asked Noctua if they would send some A4x20 as well, surprisingly they said yes and now its time to test. What happens when you reduce the size of the fans on you radiator to the extreme, I took 21 Nocuta NF-A4x20 fans attached them to my Kraken X62 and put them up against Noctuas best fans and the take away was surprising.
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NF-A12x25
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@binal3d570
@binal3d570 5 жыл бұрын
I think Noctua did NOT regret sending those fans.
@glxblrt
@glxblrt 4 жыл бұрын
For science!
@arty_gangster
@arty_gangster 4 жыл бұрын
@@glxblrt For Sales!
@olamajosta3621
@olamajosta3621 4 жыл бұрын
For Riddance
@willpitts9957
@willpitts9957 4 жыл бұрын
Olamajosta R i d d a n c e
@kevinradtke3767
@kevinradtke3767 3 жыл бұрын
Bet the guy responding to the email asking for 21 little fans was giggling
@Lvl100Boss
@Lvl100Boss 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone willing to tryout the stoner/shower thoughts everyones had
@bradleylauterbach7920
@bradleylauterbach7920 4 жыл бұрын
Thank Noctua lol
@mynameisray
@mynameisray 4 жыл бұрын
I mean you can only find videos of people testing this back in 2012.. but sure.. someone willing to try it out....
@robertjovanovic4873
@robertjovanovic4873 4 жыл бұрын
Im watching this stoned and i want to fly on it
@AnanusBananus
@AnanusBananus 4 жыл бұрын
And noctua being an awesome company, with obvious trust and interest towards this funny shit🤣
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 4 жыл бұрын
Well not all the shower thoughts.
@bladactania
@bladactania 3 жыл бұрын
"I wish I had a 3d printer..." How far you've come since then!
@leiflang8097
@leiflang8097 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@SLEEPYJK
@SLEEPYJK 2 жыл бұрын
Especially now, he probably has closets full of 3d printers of every flavor available
@JeoshuaCollins
@JeoshuaCollins 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. By now Major Hardware has almost become a 3D Printer channel!
@samm7322
@samm7322 5 жыл бұрын
How about taking the tiny fans away one by one to see at what point u get signif rise in temps?
@abbyherman851
@abbyherman851 5 жыл бұрын
Cool thats a good idea!
@Rem_NL
@Rem_NL 5 жыл бұрын
build an ultra flat pc case to hang under your desk
@abbyherman851
@abbyherman851 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rem_NL :) challenge accepted
@johngaltline9933
@johngaltline9933 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rem_NL so, a 1U server chassis?
@elrippo649
@elrippo649 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rem_NL could get dammn difficult because of the graphic card (your pc probaly has a minimum thickness of your graphic card height+mainboard hieght)
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond 5 жыл бұрын
With the current heatwave in Europe I would like to cover my body in heatsinks and all these little fans and see if it cools me down. No thermal paste though, it's bad for the skin. :P
@adamsrealm
@adamsrealm 5 жыл бұрын
Thermal pads it is then.
@WahlVids
@WahlVids 5 жыл бұрын
Could mount a heatsink to the power delivery (heart) much they mount a pacemaker. Theoretically, it should work.
@snjert8406
@snjert8406 5 жыл бұрын
same.
@RazvanDelta
@RazvanDelta 5 жыл бұрын
If the outside temperature is above body temperature that would actually heat you up even more.
@ronniemillsap
@ronniemillsap 5 жыл бұрын
What a torturous way to die if someone did it to you on purpose and just left you hooked up
@gutserker
@gutserker 4 жыл бұрын
You can brag to your friends "my fans cost more than your whole computer"
@maniacmattmtl
@maniacmattmtl 4 жыл бұрын
i actually have 10 ML 120 and 3 ML 140 fans... thats nearly 600$ cad if i bought them new. in a 1000D corsair Obsidian
@davidreddick3016
@davidreddick3016 4 жыл бұрын
Only reason the Noctua fans in my current build came out at a simi reasonable percent of the total build price is because I built an overkill water-cooled workstation and paid way too much for water cooling parts.
@stripes8812
@stripes8812 4 жыл бұрын
@@maniacmattmtl oh no... ml fans were super disappointing... Too loud.
@maniacmattmtl
@maniacmattmtl 4 жыл бұрын
@@stripes8812 I don't find them loud at all at less than 1000rpm. Any fan that spins 2500rpm is gonna be loud
@maniacmattmtl
@maniacmattmtl 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidreddick3016 yeah I feel ya, monster system but the liquid cooling and fans was2k$ cad
@ecromancer
@ecromancer 5 жыл бұрын
Using the little fans as a front intake on a case like a fractal design meshify C?
@sixpackpilot
@sixpackpilot 5 жыл бұрын
I was more thinking to put one in the back, on the ventilation area, next to GPU bracket. It can pull air out when the GPU is active, while a low rpm A12x25 fan in the front is pulling air in. You don't need high rpm for good airflow. I have found that there is a point where higher rpm fans do not improve the cooling anymore or even work adversely. Steady, one-directional, undisturbed airflow is key.
@Catonaut.
@Catonaut. 5 жыл бұрын
pfft. put the little ones on the corsair obsidian 1000d. then you'll need like what.....200 of them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@skaltura
@skaltura 5 жыл бұрын
You seriously need an 3d printer :O This adapter would have been fairly easy and quick with a 300x300mm print volume printer, or even with a small printer in 2 pieces. The time you spent manually cutting all the holes you could be chillin' with a beer waiting for printer to finish
@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV
@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV 5 жыл бұрын
Great, so now we know that the radiator is the limiting factor here.
@ravenshrike
@ravenshrike 5 жыл бұрын
At 64 degrees, not 64 over ambient, it's more likely that it's a IHS/paste/block limitation than the radiator.
@placeholder7054
@placeholder7054 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a push/pull configuration with some 5400rpm 120mm Sythe Gentle Typhoons on it. 150CFM each.
@mellis966
@mellis966 3 ай бұрын
I think it is the water block and the fluid flow rate. The fans changed but the fluid flow over the CPU remained constant. The heat removed by the radiator remained constant enough that the fans did not matter much. To have a better test, he would need to set up a box and measure the flow rate of the different fan clusters. Because each block of fans ran at a different speed. It might also be possible to measure the power draw on the fan blocks as well.
@Occone10413
@Occone10413 3 жыл бұрын
Power consumption is about 8 times higher with the little ones. Each motor also generates heat, which escapes easily in an open test like yours, but might might become noticeable in a PC case. Actual noise levels would also be nice to see.
@dangernoodle8376
@dangernoodle8376 5 жыл бұрын
You have to replace the little fans with bloweymatrons
@alexairconditioning1581
@alexairconditioning1581 5 жыл бұрын
Littely what I thought lmao
@vaelophisnyx9873
@vaelophisnyx9873 5 жыл бұрын
RIP eardrums and powerbill
@deltactarchives1328
@deltactarchives1328 3 жыл бұрын
LTT Fan?
@ocadusouza
@ocadusouza 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a great way to find out if there is bottleneck in the system other than the fans.
@onboard3
@onboard3 5 жыл бұрын
Keep on going with stuff that's so silly that it's actually good. Saw the thumbnail and thought it was a car radiator :)
@Grubbybump253
@Grubbybump253 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail browsing on mobil I thought I was looking at a 2 meter tall server with too many fans.
@taurohnyt617
@taurohnyt617 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@hamleeet243
@hamleeet243 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@glynkatkin
@glynkatkin 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when I modded my Silverstone TJ08-E front intake panel, to use 4x Noctua 92mm fans instead of the stock Silverstone AP181, and it performed essentially the same, just quieter...was a pretty fun little mod.
@hoyle038
@hoyle038 5 жыл бұрын
This earned a sub. That's twice you did some kind of testing that I've never seen before. I will be keeping my eye on you sir.
@PyroVulpes
@PyroVulpes 5 жыл бұрын
Your math is bad. Pressure is a function of force over area. You can't just add up the pressure from each individual A4x20 fan like you can with the air flow numbers. The greater the surface area one fan has to take care of, the lower its effective pressure is going to be. That said, those little fans were very impressive! I thought they would be much louder and not perform nearly as well as they did! Also, it's not really fair to say you can just replace any 140mm fan with a 120 and expect similar performance when you used the Best 120mm fan ever produced as the comparison point.
@lebowski_dude
@lebowski_dude 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, some pretty ropey maths going on there. High school physics anyone?
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
Y plus x minus z = banana
@BMW_nation
@BMW_nation 5 жыл бұрын
Alright nerd
@iamaduckquack
@iamaduckquack 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say they're the best fans ever created. They gave me worse temps than other fans.
@lebowski_dude
@lebowski_dude 5 жыл бұрын
@@MajorHardware Bueller? Bueller?
@icediverfull
@icediverfull 5 жыл бұрын
I love your channel and your Projects. Underrated Channel!
@1sonyzz
@1sonyzz 5 жыл бұрын
use NF-A4x20 on x570 chipset instead of supplied motherboard vendor fan
@onboard3
@onboard3 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty much that (would have also done, if the only mATX option was cheap). Kinda surprised about that noise they made, for me those 40mm fans sounded better than those 120mm, horrible motor noise in those IMO. 140mm was just wind noise, that doesn't bother me.
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 5 жыл бұрын
Too thick
@LEXXIUS
@LEXXIUS 5 жыл бұрын
@@onboard3 I have 4 of the NF-A12x25 on my radiator in an open chassis and they are really quiet, the only way to hear motor noise is to get close with your ear. The Corsair ML 120 Pro I had previously have much higher motor noise, far louder than these noctuas (like audible electrical hum). My PSU fan (Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium) also has an audible motor noise (like a slightly audible ratchet, my best explanation) and is the loudest sound my PC makes! The NF A12x25 are awesome and quiet.
@0hgre
@0hgre 5 жыл бұрын
great idea. would watch!
@onboard3
@onboard3 5 жыл бұрын
@@LEXXIUS Cheers, likely just sound the mic picked up but not audible. I had one 120mm stock fan from Aerocool case that was 1000rpm and quiet, except horrible motor noise that made it unusable. Still there on my pile of fans, think I used it one day :D
@taotechnique
@taotechnique 4 жыл бұрын
I like your channel, because you think outside of the box. You swim against the tide, even though the sign says "beware of the riptide". People like you, are the ones who make great discoveries.
@ThriftyAV
@ThriftyAV 5 жыл бұрын
I love the experimentation. Nobody else out there would think to try out 21 Nocuta NF-A4x20 fans! Nice job!
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
They are so much quieter then I thought they would be
@Nordern
@Nordern 5 жыл бұрын
What would be interesting to see is if these small fans can help a custom water loop that has a undersized radiator on it
@NinjaInTheFirstDegree
@NinjaInTheFirstDegree 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly as long as air flow covers the core and passes through the radiator. Fan size wont matter. The biggest change would be in radiator size.
@Rainbow__cookie
@Rainbow__cookie 4 жыл бұрын
Noctua: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY FANS
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
They wanted to get rid of their fanclub.
@MojojoJenkins
@MojojoJenkins 5 жыл бұрын
Haha! What a test! It looks dope and performs well. Good on you and good on Noctua for supporting such content!
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
Noctua has been great
@macintosh8328
@macintosh8328 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! I've never heard of you or your channel before. I've been into tech and tech videos for 15 years now. I saw your video in my recommended and thought: " Who dis?" Love your content. I am now adding your channel to my subscriptions. Yay!
@christophermiller4982
@christophermiller4982 5 жыл бұрын
Every time I come back to this channel I become more impressed. You are clearly growing! Two minor critiques: 1: Whenever you reveal new results or sets of numbers, like you did at 2:51 and 3:08, try to catch the attention of the viewer to indicate that something has changed. While watching a format like this, the viewer glances at and reads the numbers you initially show, and then they look back to you as you're talking and gesticulating (The eye always goes back to motion). Then, because the viewer is looking at you, having just a soft fade to a new set of numbers in the exact same place, size and style of the old numbers isn't eye-catching enough to immediately draw the viewer's eye back to the numbers, which makes the viewer, once he realizes numbers have changed, doubt as to whether or not he's missed something, or struggle to remember what the old numbers were. In light of this, I would recommend, especially when comparing numbers, to do more side-by-side, like you did at 7:22, but where you introduce the new numbers next to or beneath the old numbers to make comparison easier, so the viewer doesn't have to scrub backward in your video to compare. Or if you are switching to a new set and no longer showing the old, change up the positioning between numbers or do a full screen change, or a have a flashier transition, or verbally direct the viewer's attention back to the numbers first. Otherwise we're so focused on you and what you're saying that when the numbers fade mid sentence in the same spot, we might not catch the change as easily. 2. You buried the lead! I clicked on the video after seeing the thumbnail of all the crazy small fans on a radiator and reading the title, but then I just saw you sitting there talking about the conception of the video. You only have a few seconds to engage a viewer after they click, so your first few seconds should almost be a continuation of the thumbnail that teases what I'm about to see and hooks me. You have all this beautiful footage of the radiator and it's monolithic extravagance with all these fans, but it doesn't show up until half-way through. I would start with maybe 3-5 seconds of that footage as a, "This is what you're about to see" hook, then cut to you and do the rest of the video. That anticipatory glory footage teases what's to come and draws me in so I'm more likely to engage with the rest of the content, and creates a bigger payoff when you do finally show it in it's full glory. Other than that, awesome content. Your montage of building the rig with the overhead pan shot was fantastic. This video was on par with a bitwit or jayz or linus video for sure! Keep up the great content!
@Bluscream
@Bluscream 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@BusbyBiscuits
@BusbyBiscuits 5 жыл бұрын
I love the crazy experiments you do man. Do more with the small fans, I feel there is a thread to be tugged on here.
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
I have another idea we will see if I can get alphacool on board
@vossli1074
@vossli1074 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. He does all the stuff i wonder about but have no means to test
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina 4 жыл бұрын
Telling you, man, it's incredible the engineering behind Noctua fans. That they can make those 1U server fans so quiet is a beautiful thing. Thinking about putting one of those on my NVMe heatsink.
@fredrickawinyo
@fredrickawinyo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the unique content, is fun to watch and really cool... And has sweet info passed in the end... For the fans, try cooling everything... RAM, HDD, increase airflow in chassis, try cool monitor... hey, you asked...😁
@jackbauer2698
@jackbauer2698 5 жыл бұрын
She'll tell you size doesn't matter but in the end it does. JayZ did it a while back. Still great video and cool idea, keep em coming! 👍
@CitizenTechTalk
@CitizenTechTalk 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting test. And it shows how CFM works dependant on area of mass. Thank you.
@Meta-Drew
@Meta-Drew 4 жыл бұрын
That has to be the sickest fan setup I have ever seen, way cooler than any rgb or color scheme or other design elements. If I ever saw that in someones computer it would blow my mind.
@ayy-drienproductions7221
@ayy-drienproductions7221 4 жыл бұрын
"Sure you can have 4 fans." *HOW ABOUT 21 MORE*
@Chipz1337
@Chipz1337 5 жыл бұрын
Create a VRM and RAM cooling brackets and cool down your test bench even more.!
@Scyler1641
@Scyler1641 5 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be interesting to test it with some form of obstruction and see how it goes. This is super informative, though. Thanks for going through the effort
@brandonpfister
@brandonpfister 3 жыл бұрын
Totally loved this! Lemme tell ya...that panel of 21 fans looks freakin sweet 🤩
@WTP_DAVE
@WTP_DAVE 4 жыл бұрын
2020 major hardware looking back "i wish i had a printer"
@VeritronX
@VeritronX 5 жыл бұрын
You're limited more by the flow rate of the pump and the coldplate design than by the fans with an aio like that.
@Luxumbra69
@Luxumbra69 5 жыл бұрын
That is about as wrong of a statement as you could possibly make. Fluid flow rate has neglibible effect on temps whether it be AIO or custom loop. Cold plate design effects are less than margin of error if you are using any commercially available AIO or custom waterblock.
@GuyFromJupiter
@GuyFromJupiter 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luxumbra69 No, you could hardly be more wrong. While that may usually be true, it isn't always. Much like any other system there can be bottlenecks in cooling. Usually the largest bottleneck is the ability of the fins to transfer heat into the air passing through them. In this case though, since there is almost certainly differing amounts of airflow through those fins, it appears that the bottleneck is now the ability of the cooler to transfer heat from the CPU package to the fins. This could be due to water flow rate, coldplate design, or radiator design, or maybe some combination of the 3. Improving those things is the only way to improve the cooling performance.
@butifarras
@butifarras 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuyFromJupiter pretty much,you would not expect any difference even with a 20k RPM industrial fan
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 3 жыл бұрын
@@GuyFromJupiter Thanks, thats the explanation I was searching for. No way those small fans have the same rate of airflow with >50% of the path blocked by the fans.
@kylewilliams3565
@kylewilliams3565 4 жыл бұрын
I love your content man, never stop!
@ahsenhaque543
@ahsenhaque543 5 жыл бұрын
Vid quality is getting better and better. Keep it up bro! 👍🏽
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@franzb69
@franzb69 5 жыл бұрын
now if only those tiny fans were used on x570 motherboards for the chipset and were made thinner.
@JohnLGalt_1
@JohnLGalt_1 5 жыл бұрын
Well, they *are* also made thinner :D
@skipad4306
@skipad4306 5 жыл бұрын
im not apple fan, nor samsung not intel, amd, nvidia but im Noctua fan boyyyyyyy
@snarfsnarfff
@snarfsnarfff 3 жыл бұрын
This has quickly become one of my favorite channels on youtube. I guess you could say... Im a huge FAN...
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 3 жыл бұрын
OHHH SNAP
@TheAMGReviewers
@TheAMGReviewers 5 жыл бұрын
You have earned a sub for this video, showing the little guys some love
@Skylark1007
@Skylark1007 5 жыл бұрын
Try those mini fans on tower coolers
@RobinCernyMitSuffix
@RobinCernyMitSuffix 5 жыл бұрын
well, the 40mm fans in servers are running at 10'000 RPM... no wonder they are louder ;)
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@MrTouka
@MrTouka 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I have been looking for this video and I finally found it while watching one of your older videos(I'm new to your channel btw) and I'm so happy I finally found it.
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you here sorry it was so hard to find how did you hear about it
@videogamephenomhd
@videogamephenomhd 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how many other brands anyone could think of, Noctua seems to be the only brand that has reached the summit so far.
@adhillA97
@adhillA97 5 жыл бұрын
Build a ridiculously flat gaming system with side-flow air cooling.
@Appri
@Appri 4 жыл бұрын
I modded a dell poweredge r710, RIDICULOUSLY flat, with 1070s
@NinjaInTheFirstDegree
@NinjaInTheFirstDegree 4 жыл бұрын
@@Appri I was just about to say. Water cooled PC in a 1u server case.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaInTheFirstDegree Can you even get radiators to fit in a 1U high (40mm) rack case and get some decent air to go through it?
@thilotech
@thilotech 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney3K LinusTechTips did it in their Minecraft Server.
@IIHAIAHII
@IIHAIAHII 5 жыл бұрын
Use the tiny fans to build an extremely flat PC that can fit beneath a Screen or maybe under the desk.
@99Etien
@99Etien 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think they are much flatter.
@IIHAIAHII
@IIHAIAHII 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? @@99Etien
@99Etien
@99Etien 5 жыл бұрын
@@IIHAIAHII I mean that using these tiny fans won't make your Pc flatter, since their height is the same as the big fans. Especially since you need those frames to fit them in.
@IIHAIAHII
@IIHAIAHII 5 жыл бұрын
@@99Etien No it isn't and no you don't. You can use those fans individually. Merely the depth should be more or less the same.
@GodKing804
@GodKing804 5 жыл бұрын
Wow someone who doesn't talk for 30 mins and gets to the point. Subd
@freaksavior
@freaksavior 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I should check out some of those little fans for my network gear.
@NightForce
@NightForce 5 жыл бұрын
You completely ignored the Power consumption of the fans.. ..it's i little detail but would be great if you compare every detail :) ..so Power consumption would be: 2x NF-A14 PWM @ 100% = 2x 1,56 Watts = Total of 3,12 Watts, 2x NF-A12 PWN @ 100% = 2x 1,75 Watts = Total of 3,5 Watts, 21x NF-A4 PWM @ 100% = 21x0,5 Watts = Total of 10,5 Watts !!! Turns out big fans have a additional perk :)
@pepevylizany415
@pepevylizany415 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was good missclick :D Nice video! Subscribed
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it
@addledhead
@addledhead 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought it would be interesting to use those tiny fans to cool specific components, like VRMs or something. Not sure it would make a difference but hey, you've got so many now
@devtank
@devtank 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, this is really informative.
@timwood70
@timwood70 5 жыл бұрын
Wild, try a lower rpm? Perhaps it just needs air flow
@jwilliams703
@jwilliams703 5 жыл бұрын
stack them all in a huge line and put it on a chipset and see what happens.
@avaviscarra8141
@avaviscarra8141 4 жыл бұрын
You would think the A4's would do terribly as each hub just blocks air, I guess noctua is just that good. Its cool that you tested the 140mm and 120mm differences now we can save a few dollars getting the slightly cheaper smaller ones and not lose out on performance
@Stevenx01
@Stevenx01 5 жыл бұрын
Now it's time to chill the chipset! I was already looking for a couple of them to install it on the Z77 Sabertooth and get rid of the loud stock ones
@Pizza_Pepperoni0
@Pizza_Pepperoni0 5 жыл бұрын
maybe the radiator was too thin?
@Ayane13b
@Ayane13b 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely feels like the limiting factor is the radiator and not the fans. Get a thicker, more dense radiator, and the smaller fans will do better once it gets to the point where you're limited by airflow.
@michaelclermont
@michaelclermont 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thx for the video. Quick suggestion, add charts! Those are nice visuals for this kind of comparison.
@Telesto13S
@Telesto13S 5 жыл бұрын
1st vid I've seen of yours. I thought "What a ridiculous premise; that's the silliest thing *ever* " :) ......... and subscribed immediately! +1 to removing small fans to see at what point it makes a temp difference.
@ewatfred
@ewatfred 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Noctua being willing to experiment like this
@CrustyAbsconder
@CrustyAbsconder 3 жыл бұрын
We need more people like you in charge of the world.
@jaedenspider877
@jaedenspider877 Жыл бұрын
those little tiny server fans are so awesome I have two of them in my collection
@janwitkowsky8787
@janwitkowsky8787 3 жыл бұрын
Always fun to see a tech-tuber being the crazy beta-tester for hardware, billing the companies. It's awesome. I bet there is a technician at Noctua saying "When *I* asked to do it, it was rejected, but when *he's* asking, it's okay?!?!?!"
@termin8ter4562
@termin8ter4562 5 жыл бұрын
I wasted a lot of tech stuff and I've honestly not seen something like this. That mini fan array is comical to look at, another great video.
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
If I had a 3d printer I would go ham
@1nfiniteloop
@1nfiniteloop 3 жыл бұрын
I got one of those adaptors since I had trouble fitting a full size fan into a space in my Shift X ITX case.....the last fan on the back of my radiator was blocked by the pump mount, so ended up using one of these....not ideal but worked great. Maybe others have a small system and sometimes big fans dont fit.
@DrBrunoDzogovic
@DrBrunoDzogovic 3 жыл бұрын
I have a two 200mm fans on a 280mm radiator :) The Cooler Master H500M mesh case comes equipped with two of those in the front and I just slapped a radiator behind the fans to push the air inside the case.
@ratheonhudson3311
@ratheonhudson3311 5 жыл бұрын
This is electrical engineering Art... Fan displacement and efficiency aside. Thanks for sharing this work
@post-leftluddite
@post-leftluddite 4 жыл бұрын
More videos like this... I love weird cooling experiments..... Can you use a vent tube to hook up a window unit AC to cool your PC? I've always wanted to see that one
@Jomenaa
@Jomenaa 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why anyone would test this with those fans, but YOU did! Thank you, now we know not to try this ourselves xD
@ManOfTrades
@ManOfTrades 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, thank you
@razorhanny
@razorhanny 4 жыл бұрын
This crazy video made me subscribe! haha
@HectorDomino.
@HectorDomino. 5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine all those 21 fans got single ARGB led built in! And was placed front side of a glass front panel case! Yeah I would go definitely for the setup, even if it is 5-10% hotter. Never thought of this concept mate. Nice idea thanks for sharing.
@zentriceggofficial
@zentriceggofficial 4 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of fans. Back in my extreme cooling days (TEC+Waterblock) I rigged-up a mazda MX5 car rad with its two 12 inch fans. I had the fans powered by a variable PSU and as they were sped up, the sound was identical to a C130.
@RinksRides
@RinksRides 4 жыл бұрын
Maximum Boost by Corky Bell has a chapter on intercoolers and radiators. Basically your intake duct area on the front of the car only has to be 25% the area of the fin area of the radiator. The other 75% of where the air passes through is consumed by fins and tubes, but that's on a car which is moving. Also that ratio does not account for the fan frame or hub motor in your application. There is also a tapered duct from the front bumper to the radiator surface so this idea may not be practical for a PC. Hope this helps.
@HardwareHorizon
@HardwareHorizon 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I keep posting on all your videos. Just discovered you, but yeah, your vids are a lot of fun.
@ikkeheltvanlig
@ikkeheltvanlig 3 жыл бұрын
One seriously good use for those A4s for enthusiast consumers though, could be to optimize case airflow. Either by directing extra fresh air directly to a problematic component, e.g. the CPU, or by increasing the airflow at a part of the case that sees less air passing by, like the bottom left quadrant in many cases
@mkusanagi
@mkusanagi 5 жыл бұрын
I'm using them small ones on my freenas box and my htpc box, love them fans, quiet, look somewhat nice as well
@Pabula
@Pabula 4 жыл бұрын
I use the NF-A4x20 for NVME SSD cooling, also replaced some of my switches 40mm fans (but i used flx version), you can also use them to cool chipsets and vrms, they are very easy to mount and cool decently.
@Fincher123
@Fincher123 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the Video since the Title =) Totaly great idea!
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
HAHA
@Fincher123
@Fincher123 5 жыл бұрын
@@MajorHardware what is better choice: 360 Radi or 280? I have a 360 in my 011 and like to get in another one. So On Top would fit a 280 but also a a second 280. And then is there now tha new Alphacool Radi with one side in another side out. I like them but idk which i should take.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 3 жыл бұрын
You can hook fans into a raft type assembly by zip tying the corners together. It doesn't help with cable management, but I've used this to make tall and narrow window fans.
@icehawk3442
@icehawk3442 3 жыл бұрын
For the first part, it makes perfect sense that a good 120mm will perform similarly to a 140mm because the turbulence on the fan exhaust would push air beyond just the 120mm area, and cause airflow to reach the remaining borders of the 280mm radiator that the fan doesn't directly "point at". So unless you literally tape up the 280 radiator into a 240 preventing any airflow, the 280 rad still gonna do the same thing and won't magically become a 240 rad. I have a feeling if you use a 92mm fan and 3D print some effective ducting to prevent static pressure loss and maximize airflow coverage, you could well get the same results as 120 vs 140 too.
@Johny40Se7en
@Johny40Se7en 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool test. Noctua make the best fans ever 😊 Would be awesome if they made a desk fan or an office fan. They'd sell like hotcakes! 😜
@yossi4652
@yossi4652 4 жыл бұрын
Noctua really love this boi
@deltactarchives1328
@deltactarchives1328 3 жыл бұрын
Yo dawg, you heard right. I do like fans. *This is why I'm here in the first place.*
@shangrilaladeda
@shangrilaladeda 4 жыл бұрын
Push and pull setup for fans on radiator is best, when it comes to numbers of course there is always an advantage.
@brianterrill9587
@brianterrill9587 4 жыл бұрын
When I did that I used zip ties to hold the fans together and daisychained, ran the cables into one long link using a soldering iron. Basically making my own bus.
@ChrisHarmon1
@ChrisHarmon1 3 жыл бұрын
Used to be there were few options for higher static pressure 140mm fans so the 120mm adapter thing was an obvious choice for 140mm radiators. Now days there are a million options just as good and in some cases better when it comes to 140 non RGB.
@gremfive4246
@gremfive4246 5 жыл бұрын
Now you need to test those A4s in push-pull config on that radiator.
@nottheprotagonist8258
@nottheprotagonist8258 3 жыл бұрын
noctua seems like a chill company
@cody2930
@cody2930 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this test with a hotter cpu and see if that makes any difference as its harder to make a cpu run cooler the lower the temps are in the first place.
@AG-pm3tc
@AG-pm3tc 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool of noctua to send you the fans!
@MajorHardware
@MajorHardware 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised I didnt think they would be Noctua is the best
@AG-pm3tc
@AG-pm3tc 5 жыл бұрын
@@MajorHardware well, they maybe saw your liquid air cooler video and liked you, cannot blame them for that. At any rate, i think they are the best for most applications, truly an industry standard. Them, and maybe delta fans, in some insane applications when you don't give a damn about noise and want your computer to compete with jets 🤣
@natterman2037
@natterman2037 5 жыл бұрын
Thumb nail looked like a car radiator with fans. Cool test and comparison man👍❤✌
@finraziel
@finraziel 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I first thought it was a massive radiator with normal sized fans too, rather than a normal sized radiator with tiny fans.
@natterman2037
@natterman2037 5 жыл бұрын
@@finraziel yea it was a really good test to do and I can't remember if I have seen a test with tiny fans on a radiator but i have seen testing done with 120's and 200 mm fans on a big radiator before and they were using ice water. That was pretty interesting too. Thanks for the reply comment I meant to sub to the channel but I forgot. Now I remembered👍❤✌
@RetroRhith
@RetroRhith 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2021, I was watching you make the adapter plate and was wondering why you weren't 3D printing it... then you mentioned you didn't have one! Can you tell I'm a newer subscriber?
@dennisbryant9437
@dennisbryant9437 3 жыл бұрын
You made me a big fan
@GabbyTech
@GabbyTech 3 жыл бұрын
great experiment, those 5000 rpm fans reminded me toffifee chocolate
@bemutatoktesztek4163
@bemutatoktesztek4163 2 жыл бұрын
thx very good test