21 Sika in 24hrs - Deer Management Cull

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Жыл бұрын

We follow the Capreolus Club during an overnight trip to Dorset to assist the Furzebrook Estate with a much needed cull of wild Sika deer, that is necessary to protect the biodiversity of the region. We look at the history of Sika deer in the UK, why numbers need to be kept under control and highlight some of the equipment that members are using.
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@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks to Capreolus Club members and all of those that contributed to the making of this film. It has been a privilege and pleasure to be hunting with you over the last year and I look forward to more adventures in 2023!

@ournaturalhabitat Жыл бұрын

Always nice to see people who are passionate about what they do. Keep up the great content and education!

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for that comment, that's really appreciated.

@Nebula_Ultra Жыл бұрын

Another great video. 👍

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the vote of support thanks!!

@jackb1888 Жыл бұрын

Evening Peter another great video keep getting told Sika are the hardest or challenging deer species to stalk

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Normally I'd agree with you, however, in this region they have become more accustomed to man and are in such high numbers that success rates soar!

@jonathanperkins5232 Жыл бұрын

Another fine video that gets the reverence for management of these majestic beasts spot on. I have spent many hours watching Sika in and around Blue Pool, beautiful scenery, interesting topography and of course magnificent deer. Certainly an enviable permission!

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan for the comment.

@opsoverseas Жыл бұрын

Good vlog Peter, not eaten one of those yet... Keep em coming! Simon

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon, I have to say, I rate Sika as perhaps the best eating of all. In fact I saved a couple of young animals especially for my Christmas dinner!

@opsoverseas Жыл бұрын

@@peterjones4442 will you serve one with a maraschino cherry and tell the nippers it's rudolf?! Lol

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

@@opsoverseas haha! Sounds like a great idea, as it goes we always do Rudolf's in blankets! Which the kids always love.

@jamesdover713 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, look forward to seeing more and hopefully join you in the future.

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks James

@indyreno2933 Жыл бұрын

Sika deer are deer that constitute the genus Ocellelaphus, there are four extant species of sika deer: the Southeast Asian Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus pseudaxis), the Chinese Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus mandarinus), the Formosan Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus taiouanus), and the Japanese Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus nippon), the japanese sika deer is the only living deer species found in Japan.

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the extra added info!

@bethechangeme2233 Жыл бұрын

I got into hunting deer only this year after spending my childhood guiding french hunters around Ireland shooting woodcock and snipe without ever myself firing a shot at them. The desire for a more sustainable and arguably healthier alternative to the conventional shop bought meat sources was also a big attraction for me, having now a young family of my own to rear. Not having a whole pile of cash, being a young man with a young family and a small business, I was unable to splash out the kind of money on guns that the gentlemen in this video did (some of those guns were €5,000+ without the optics, with optics €7,500+) so the reason I'm posting is just to encourage you, my €900 second hand Sabatti Rover chambered in .270 with a €200 3-12x56 Niko Sterling scope has bagged me 2 massive reds and 5 fallows. I started really late into the season with very limited over shot permissions so can only imagine what next year will hold on fresh ground starting right at the beginning of the season. The longest shot I made was 180 yards. This rig has had a 100% kill rate so anything ive shot at i've killed. I just wanted to share this to encourage anyone who might not have the kind of money that we see in this video - you don't need it. I'd like those expensive guns because they put the cherry on the cake but that cake tastes absolutely fine with just basic gear which is honestly not even that basic. This Sabatti Rover can take deer out to 300 yards without much trouble and even further if you want to get into the world of sniping, its an incredible tool and I'm happy to have it. Some day i'll upgrade if i've got the cash laying around but like I said above that will only be to put some cherrys on the cake, i'm very happy with just the cake for the time being.

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

That's very well said. The rifles and optics you see in this film are fabulous for those that can afford them, and good luck to them, however, the thrill is the stalking itself. Thanks for sharing.

@philipsquire9056 Жыл бұрын

Excellent production as always! Glad to see an S20 inthe mix there. Out of interest how are injured animals tracked in case they run on for some distance? I'm in Sweden and it's a legal requirement here to have a specially trained tracking hunter available, within 2 hours, with a trained dog that can follow the blood trail. The same kind of hunter deals with deer injured in traffic accidents.

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Philip thanks for the question, whilst its not a legal requirement in the UK, we do have 'Deer Track and Trace' a fabulous free service provided by trained dog handlers, which we can call upon, and have done on a couple of occasions.

@brentcameron4494 Жыл бұрын

Jolly good show old chaps. Wonderful to see no expense is spared on the rifles and scopes used to shoot these animals in the meadows. Obviously deer hunting in the UK is still the preserve of the wealthy as it was back in the day the deer were first liberated.🙂

@tomom2011 Жыл бұрын

It's not generally, but this club is for rich London types so yes, you can expect all the best kit. This isn't representative.

@Siritos Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks @peterjones4442. One of my favourite hunting trips!

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the comment thanks.

@theessexhunter1305 Жыл бұрын

Nice Vid Peter, your guests don't shoot foxes as they are a tad slow lol however a good task done.

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Haha I know you foxers have to be pretty snappy! Thanks for watching!

@stephencurry7543 Жыл бұрын

Arnt the sako rifles worth a mention Peter. The best guns dont always have to be thousands of pounds

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen, for sure, and I think if I may, if you look back at our films over the years you'll find plenty featuring my own Sako 85 which has had plenty of exposure. Thanks for watching.

@dominicjohnson8427 Жыл бұрын

A well presented video from capreolus club but I would like to mention that sika don’t behave like this in a natural habitat, they only show themselves in this manner when congested into a small area, if a stalker would like to hunt sika in a more natural habitat true to the origins of sika then I would suggest Scotland! It’s obviously a mock habitat but sika generally only show themselves last n first light if at all

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, hence the need to get numbers down. That said, Sika do very well in Scotland in part due to the Dorset climate, landscape, conifer woodlands and heathland which they enjoy.

@beegeenz Жыл бұрын

Or. New Zealand!

@dominicjohnson8427 Жыл бұрын

@@peterjones4442 yes definitely a need to reduce numbers in Dorset peter, but my point still stands that the number of deer you are seeing in Dorset isn’t to do with availability of food but more to do with congestion of the species, after all sika are not only capable but are more than happy to live off the forest trees and shrubs around them unlike some other deer species, my point is regarding pure bred sika like the one’s found in Dorset, and in the Scottish Borders around the Peebles area

@dominicjohnson8427 Жыл бұрын

@@beegeenz sika heaven although the chances of the deer being a pure bred sika are slim in my opinion

@beegeenz Жыл бұрын

@@dominicjohnson8427 .Sika do cross breed with red deer but it is far from common. Very cunning deer to hunt in thick bush but a great reward if you’re lucky enough to get one. Also in this video I must mention the calibre most of these hunters use (.308) that is going to kill them but also destroy a lot of meat. I personally use a .223 and although that can sometimes destroy meat too it is more than enough to do the job even out to 300-400 metres. Interesting to is the still/blind hunting in this video, I suppose it’s necessary due to being near built up areas.

@justinhopkins4448 Жыл бұрын

Peter you don't look to well your eyes look rough hope that's just from couple hard early mornings .thanks for another good video

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Justin for your concern, three young kids at Christmas will do that to a man!

@jackb1888 Жыл бұрын

243 or 6.5 creedmoor Peter which would you go with

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

I have to say I absolutely love my .243 however, the 6.5 Creedmoor is ballistically superior and would be my choice provided you can easily get hold of the ammunition.

@jackb1888 Жыл бұрын

@@peterjones4442 would you say it covers all deer species fine and no need for extra caliber say 270,308

@CountydeerstalkingCoUk Жыл бұрын

@@jackb1888 Yes it will cover all the deer species nicely and is remarkably similar to my all time favorite calibre the .308. You can read my review of the 6.5 Creedmoor compared to the .308 here: www.countydeerstalking.co.uk/blog/6-5-creedmoor-calibre-review

@Sidenotch44 Жыл бұрын

I'll come over there and hunt the Kings deer with my compound bow if that'd be okay

@huntnorth5744 Жыл бұрын

Not too many Tikka T3s in that lot! 😂

@hshhivvft Жыл бұрын

Ireland is the home of big sika stags

@leehornsby2859 Жыл бұрын

None of them lads look like they started out with ferrets and catapults 😂

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

You might be surprised Lee.

@shaunpreston2839 Жыл бұрын

What I'd like to no is why they where allowed to get out off control like this! These are boarder line pets! And I'm an ex keeper?

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Regrettably, as we tried to make clear, many landowners simply don't allow the deer to be shot. Thanks for watching.

@Sidenotch44 Жыл бұрын

Oh my God you guys are comical 308 for those little Asian dear come on man really

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

Aston thanks for watching. What would you recommend please?

@Sidenotch44 Жыл бұрын

I mean correct me if I'm wrong but I was thinking 308 was a little bit too much of a round I mean I know it'll definitely smoke those deer but I was thinking maybe 308 is more for elk hunting and the round that I would probably use would probably be I'm thinking maybe 270 Winchester 130 grain

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

@@Sidenotch44 that's interesting, in fact the .270 is in fact a 'necked down' .30-06 and has more energy than the .308. Check out this film about calibres, you may find it interesting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKh2Z61mstCwcok.html

@mattroberts1664 Жыл бұрын

Sika can take some punishment. I certainly wouldn’t say a .308 was too much gun if chest shooting… especially if using copper.

@100178020959 Жыл бұрын

Once you shoot a lot of Sika you realise how important it is to use a calibre with plenty punch, I have used .270 130 grain for years, even with that and hitting in lung/heart area i sometime have a Sika going 100yds or more before dropping, especially a Stag in the rut.

@LoneWolf-ki5ee Жыл бұрын

what about giving the poor the meat

@peterjones4442 Жыл бұрын

In fact that is exactly what we do! At 13.30sec you'll notice that we mention that County Deer stalking is a key corporate supporter of the 'Country Food Trust,' a charity that provides free venison meals to those in food poverty! Impressed?!

@Bignfluffy 10 ай бұрын

@@peterjones4442I see nothing wrong whith you’re doing bud. Deer are a massive problem

@peterjones4442 10 ай бұрын

@@Bignfluffy thanks for the vote of support!

@goliver3846 Жыл бұрын

Trying to sell the culling of deer to the public, by suggesting that it is environmentally beneficial due to reducing the need for intensively farmed meat, gave me a bit of a laugh. One wonders what the the carbon footprint of hunters flying to the UK to shoot here would be?

@sammoseley6926 Жыл бұрын

It’s the fact that if these people are going to travel all this way to shoot some deer why not have a good impact by controlling the number of deer.

@goliver3846 Жыл бұрын

@@sammoseley6926 But its not done for that purpose. Of course, importing folks with expensive kit, putting them in high seats with 'guides' and letting them shoot at stuff will result in a cull of some description. But to suggest that this will in any way reduce the impact of factory farming is simply disingenuous. If for no other reason that they will not be flying back to where they come from, with Venison in their cabin bag. I have no problem with it, I would just prefer it not labelled as something that it is not. What it is, is a money making exercise, and that is fine.

@sammoseley6926 Жыл бұрын

@g Oliver. They never said it was a way of reducing the need for farmed meat in fact I don’t think there full was anything to do with that factor it was because Sika deer are not native to England and we’re introduced. they have to control the number of deer due to other reasons which as the destruction of trees as they speak about. They rip of bark from trees leading to many young trees dying. So it’s not all about the shooting and it base beneficial factors.

@goliver3846 Жыл бұрын

@@sammoseley6926 Listen to it at around 3.34. Not sure that I fully understand your point here. You saw at the beginning of the video the number of Sika deer? This only happens because of bad management or it being a park, and they are in those numbers to entertain the masses. The way to cull them effectively would be to have a local team that was able to develop and put in place a cull plan over the seasons. This would result in a regular supply of venison to the local market and have a much lower footprint. Are you suggesting that Sika deer are in any significant way different to other deer in being harmful to woodland? As I say, I have absolutely no problems with the idea of folks flying to the UK the shoot deer that need shooting (as long as they do it effectively ) and the venison going into the food chain! But I would show a range session indicating that they can use the equipment effectively and not show someone shooting at a second animal that seemed to not be retrieved.

@sammoseley6926 Жыл бұрын

@g Oliver I agree with some of your points but I don’t understand why you are against people controlling the number of deer this way if you don’t like this type of thing don’t watch it.

@masternkapp9658 Жыл бұрын

Really? What do you teach them on your course? Shots with no safe backstop and shooting out of season. Presumably you have yourself covered on the latter and just did not make it clear ,but wild arsed shots without a backstop that you film not only makes the rifle look like a rank amateur but you as well.