Hey Rob! I'm a long time member and subscriber with my personal account. First of all, I have huge respect for you as a scientist and inventor. You inspired me to take a course in standard electrical engineering and in part to start my KZfaq channel. I also have relied on your skeptical open mind as a gate keeper for ideas in this field many times. But you've got a number of things either incorrect or just out of context in the video. I'm going to try and do a respectful response video in a few weeks based on the historical evidence in plasma physics for what is going on and the current trials from independents. I'll also explain my understanding of the differences with the GEET. There are similarities but they are showing different results and have some key differences. If I can swing it, I'll encourage Malcolm to send you a prototype to review yourself in the near future. The first 25 preproduction experimental units are going out to research teams ATM but I expect there will be more soon. Cheers!

I made a geek generator for my B&S 3.5hp motor.... it ran on 50/50 water and gasoline after being started on 100% gasoline and warmed up..... the geek generator works, I ran it on water and oil with gasoline mixed in for good measure ( the gas makes it easier to start) I am not really sure that the device splits the water molecules or not or just uses the water as steam in the cylinder.... i suspect the latter.... but it did run on a 50/50 mixture of gas and water.... where it normally would not it took the exhaust heated cylinder to work... it was a extremely interesting experiment but I never did anything with the set up as it took alot of fiddling to get it to run initially. I also tried a water injection system in my Ford Pinto.... it went through about 1 gallon of water per tank full of gas..... it made the engine run better and the car felt more responsive. I ran it for about 6~8 months till the big mason jar froze and broke the jar.... then I took it off. i did not notice any gas milage improvement at all, in fact I think it went down a small amount but when I took the head off everything inside looked like it had been sandblasted clean no carbon anywhere even the pistons were shiny ! ..... so it is a great thing to do before a overhaul !

Anyone else become aware of this device from the Danny Jones Podcast with Randal Carlson?

Ohhhh i get it. Guy builds/does something that could positively change our lives,n he ends up prosecuted & branded crazy 🤯 Reminds you of anything or snuone today 🤔

Why don't you build one and test it? I would have thought that would be right up your alley. It's all open source apparently.

Well Bendall may well be a crank, but here is the interesting thing. He has managed to convince a small substation in London to trial this device on a 300 kW Perkins Generator, as we speak..The claim of substantially reduced carbon emissions must be sufficiently evident to be let loose on such an expensive piece equipment, right?

My god! This has taken me back 35 years. I remember trying out water injection on my Kawasaki Z650. Using hypodermic needles inserted into each inlet collar. The thing sucked in nearly a pint of water in about 30 seconds. I was lucky I didn't hydro-lock a cylinder or two. Left the idea for another day and never bothered going back to it.

My understanding is that Malcom was smeared by Shell oil over a prospecting dispute. Also, the darn thing is transmuting elements, and that has been tested and proven.

The main difference between the GEET is that the GEET processes the fuel and takes in the exhaust gases. The Thunderstorm generator does nothing to the fuel, only processes the air, no exhaust gasses are mixed in. Whether either produces plasmoids at such low pressure and under the stated conditions is really the question. Interestingly, if ultrasonic frequencies are present, then you can create plasmoids (put Al foil in an ultrasonic bath, run it for 60 seconds, and look at the foil under a microscope, and you will see effects on the foil, that quite frankly, are very odd. The foil is subjected to extreme cavitation and, some experimenters are looking at the foil under SEM only to find elements that were not present in the foil nor the water.

This video should be one of the top search results for The Thunderstorm Generator.

In 2015 I built the Geet device. Works great as long as the load is about 70% or more. A loaded generator @ 80% power constantly is a fantastic candidate for the application. It will burn almost anything as long as the reactor rod is tuned to the fuel. Oil needs a longer reactor rod while hydrogen needs a much shorter one. The reactor rod must be trained... When I was racing, we employed a process to hydrogenate the engine blocks. It took about a month to hydrogenate an aluminum block and about 4 months to hydrogenate an Iron block. Bottom line... ionic treatment with racing has been around for centuries. Most haven't a clue as to how or why. The bottom, bottom line is creating a battery in plain sight to prime nitrogen to release its force. Been there done that got that T shirt. That and a dollar will buy a cup of coffee. There is no free energy! It takes time and preparation for comparison to produce a very short show! Not meant for the long haul. Long haul in my book is 1,000,000 miles/1,609,344 Km while the impressive short haul is 500 miles. A demonstration of 5,000 miles is a drop in the bucket however will miss the mark of the long haul. Currently I'm focused on graphene & selenium/sulfur bipolar batteries. We are on the leading edge of EV batteries that charge very quickly however the cycle times keeps diminishing. It's hard work to keep a golf cart running for years compared to keeping a diesel, petrol, propane or natural gas-powered vehicles running. I talked to my Amazon driver today who is averaging 160 stops a day. He loves his new EV delivery truck and reports that he is able to make a 12-hour run. I'll keep you posted on what he says next year.

You just forgot to explain the 21% oxygen coming out of the final exhaust on the latest thunderstorm generator. Oh and the pipes do get cold and hot, with as much as 400f temperature difference on both ends. Infact the internal stainless pipe gets so hot that it becomes ferromagnetic.

For what it's worth. I recall that the Geet engine had the exhaust tube magnetized in one direction then the intake tube inside it is magnetized the other direction and finally the rod inside it is opposing the intake magnetically. He had different rods that would work better for different fuels. Like I said, for what it's worth. Great job again, Rob. Thanks for breaking it down. Cheers mate!

The whole apparent transmuting elements thing was actually a huge eyebrow raiser for myself. I had several livestreams from several semi related people pop up in my feed, as well as people directly involved. Made mention that it looked like a fancy heat exchanger, and actually raised the whole transmuting stuff as a concern which funny enough was never addressed. "So uh, where is the carbon going buddies?"

Malcom has said that he built base on the research of others. And he said the dimension are critical and base on the the Golden ratio. It very interesting. Thanks

I was thinking it would be a video about Kelvin Thunderstorm (water dropper). Which is an extremely simple device with no moving parts that generates electricity. The models on the internet are huge and take up a lot of space, but in reality the Kelvin Thunderstorm can be miniaturized because it seems that the amount of energy generated is not linked to the size of the device but rather the amount of water that passes through it. Miniaturizing them and connecting them in series would be a fascinating video/experiment! (note, if you are going to try this, do it with extreme caution, the amount of energy generated by this device can easily be lethal)

I do admire your view as a sceptic, the analytical path must be taken. I’m sure you are aware of Victor Schaubergers work on vortex pathways through fluid mediums. I personally believe that his work has validity…. But to each his own. Cheers!

Given the number of technical and scientific people who have watched the thunderstorm generator perform, and have monitored the process and it's emissions closely, I don't see how it could have been faked. It's been replicated many times over. Something is there that warrants further investigation.

Also as an exotic reptile breeder I can also say he's wrong about the uv bulb, it doesn't produce any heat. It increases bone and scale density and development

“The technology works!” Well, back in the 70s we built fuel vaporizers using engine heat from cooling water or exhaust, even bubbled intake air through gasoline, and got engines to run on fuel vapor. The technology “worked” but the apparent improvements gained were offset by the losses that were not apparent, until you actually looked a little deeper.

Brother Robby! I salute you for your service to the truth. Sir. I knew Paul Pantone before he passed away. I put a geet reactor on a moped I built... it ran on vegetable oil vapors... supposedly the reaction can be tuned to make water into hydrogen with correct reaction rod length and proper surface area of reaction rods to engine displacement volume...

Thank you Robert! I'm so glad you've given Paul Pantone some recognition for the plasma carburetor.

I appreciate you breaking this down. It crossed my feed this morning and my head cold was leaving me blank.

Thanks for the video, I always enjoy your stuff.

Once again I am blown away by your brilliance, well done

You are a very capable tinker so why not build one and test it?

The current model of this device does not "recycle" the exhaust gases (as the GEET does). This current model of this device actually transfers exhaust heat INTO the intake (preheating not cooling).

Samples from the big thunderstorm generator are being now looked at under an scm, structures they're finding do look odd, Sulfur crystals originating from a one point with a perfectly spherical hollow balls of iron at their termination point, they really might be onto something. I really recommend watching some scm sessions done on these samples by Bob Greener. Structures they're finding definitely don't seem like they're just a result of contaminated fuel

and meanwhile he keeps testing it and making huge progress. It's proven reliable at this point, now they even have a compact one.

Finally the algorithmput this video in my suggestion. Ever since Carlsons did his initial promotion of the thunderstorm, ive been leaving comments about it being a geet system.

I have built a geet this summer and it indeeed is something worth experimenting with i had it running on mostly water or motor oil or a few other things aswell needs some tuning with valves and rod sizes and such to run different fuels . Why not give it a go it is simple enough to put together and you seem plenty capable im not sure about malcoms edition but there seems to be similarities it’s possible he improved pauls device which seems to have quite a bit of people who have had sucsess aswell😊

You started off by giving a very kind summary of how the device is supposed to work and then continued by kindly explaining why it's simply impossible for the device to do what it says on the tin. I really appreciate the way you make science accessible. Thank you.

Did this guy completely spin the whole planet or just the part he is standing on in the first :30? Geet's device and the Thunderstorm generator are not the same thing. Hit Piece much? There should be a prize for being the humanity changer hitman video winner.

One French guy had Paul's system on his fishing trawler!

The fuel isn’t mixed with the plasmoids until the carburettor/ cylinder. I have made and quenched the 304 stainless steel spheres as well and it works.

Randall Carlson covers this in quite detail. These are being tested on industrial scale levels as I type this….

Oxygen levels are actually increased so its pulling oxygen from something in the exhaust.

UV light, particularly at shorter wavelengths, has enough energy to ionize air molecules directly. This method is often used in devices like UV air purifiers.

Evidently Carlson has now gone to personally observe some of the testing. Carlson has not changed his tune yet. The Wardenclyffe tower was halted because it posed a threat to profit and power. (Yet they are trying to rebuild this tech today.)

Having personally run water injection on my own engine i can say it definitely helps with detonation at higher compression ratios. There was a small percentage more mileage but nor significant. I kind of figured when i saw this tech that turningwater to steam before it enters the engine would be beneficial as in more efficient. Like all other things I will have to build this contraption to see how it works. Great video thank you for your input.

Have you looked into the temperature and magnetic anomalies? There is a large setup operating on a natural gas powerplant in GB.

Hi rob I did build the geet generator a few years ago and it worked very well and yes there seemed fo be a huge reduction in toxic fumes.The thunderstorm generator principal is very similar and the geet is not the same as water injection .Why not build one on your show .See what happens when you add browns gas and organic hydrocarbon gas with a pinch of ultrasonic water vapor.

One Can point to similarities between the two technologies, however, I’m wondering if you have actually reviewed the presentation points on the current offering. It’s not the bubbler or the tubes that are the key here. It is the sacred geometry, the highly sophisticated, geometry, and its application, through deep understanding of historical principles, scientific principles, and spiritual principles. This one works. Malcolm did his homework!

I have hung out with Paul Pantone and have seen this work. The weird thing, is you can use almost anything to burn. I watched him pour his coke into it. I believe it was the same place as the video was shot in the late 90s. I saw some other interesting things there, like a guy I know that put a car battery on steel rod set in bearings. It spun so fast the bearings started spraying hot grease. He wanted to know how it worked, and no one knew. Another one of those things that shouldn't work, but does.

I enjoy your down to earth approach and for your extensive knowledge. As every mechanic will immediately see is, yes, you have damp heated air going into the engine "after" the carb... this will lean out the mixture of fuel & air already blended in through the carb (reducing the hydrocarbon smell in the exhaust as they mention in their videos). This explains the Rev' increase. Would like to see how milky the engine oil is after a few hours running. The heated moisture as well as creating a lean mixture would also create superheated steam during combustion giving some expansion but also reducing the flame proliferation throughout the cylinder. This would reduce the violence of burning a lean mixture reducing spark knock risk, however, inspite of the increase in rpm and fuel economy the actual horsepower and torque to do work would be less. Show a no load vs full load ( at the generators max constant load rating)operation with and without the device. This would immediately show the shortcomings. Back in my younger days it was common to use water injection (usually homemade drilled pipes lol) on our carb engines for some benefits (real or imagined.. but after 40 years I tell the young guys itbwas all real lol.

six stroke engines use a cooling cycle of water injection - adding a steam cycle to the engine cools it considerably.

This is open source. Don’t go talking about money, motivating Malcolm. He made it open source. You are pissing me off. Are you really so quick to bash on this technology given the possibilities if it actually works. Think about it. If it actually works, we will be living in a new world. Do you really wanna act like a fact checker and squelch this before it gets a chance to anchor. Do you really want to cast aspersions about financial aspirations of the creator when he’s made it open source. Your skepticism feels like it’s born of intellectual rigidity and general ignorance.

Hi Robert! Could you please do a video on hydrogen production by using a regular microwave, crucible filled with flux and plastic pellets (mostly HDPE). Apparently a gram of HDPE yields near 1L of nearly pure hydrogen and remnant hydrocarbons. The solid residue is multi-walled carbon nanotube powder! I have an original link to an article and research somewhere... if you're interested!

I did watch some of videos about this particular contraption. It is an open source research (there is a community of researchers around the "working principle" of it) , but , it has patent(s) pending , for some reason. However , there is a portion of information on that thing , that Rob skipped , which are : materials that suppose to give the proper (or the best?) results (some titanium , or tungsten , for the spheres and pipes , and maybe other aero-space alloys) and talk about harmonic resonance (in which , shapes and dimensions are crucial). First part (materials) put me off that thing, because of the price and availability and second thing even more , because whatever material , or shape is used , whenever heat and vibration is introduced into the system - it would mess up harmonics , which (to me) means - it'll only work (if it works)at specific laboratory conditions , meaning , any variable could change the result. Also , I didn't understood , how UV light ionizes air and why it isn't made in a way that everybody knows , which is a spark gap and high voltage . It is , for me , a bit of "mystic" science , though , I don't know much about harmonics .

I built Paul's engine back in 2005 ish. I have a folder full of videos and pictures of my GEET builds, if you are interested?

THANK YOU!!!! KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SIMILAR!!! the geet reactor, just my opinion but it seems like they are digging up devices that work, but still hold back the true gems.

Ahh the Geet device! It was presumptioin that the rod being used in the center rod was using the earths magnetic field and vaccuum to create the ionic charges needed for the device to operate properly... I have looked into this in past but never experimented yet. Funny how inventors are bankrupted, ruined and then called crazy then later their inventions show up in Corporate designs... Keep up great work, be in peace God speed,.

they've put emissions measuring device on a industrial generator with this device lately and they're getting results that are unexplainable and i think the plasma explanation is more of a best guess of what's happening .once hot the exhaust emissions measurements shows oxygen goes up to 15-20% and co2 goes down to around 4 % or lower and others that i can't remember . importantly these experiments are repeatable and the numbers don't lie. i don't blame you if you're skeptical i was too .

I'm thinkin about you Mr. Murray-Smith. I'll be praying for you. 🙏

Its basically an ioniser only it splits the oxygen from carbon atoms etc. Its turning things like carbon monoxide into carbon and oxygen.

So glad I wasn't the only one to write and you made this video, many thanks.

was wondering what Robert thought of recent research and studies have revealed in the last two weeks. interested hearing his take on it.

Looking forward to this guys video he makes to retract his statements after he views the data and microscopy…

Look's like R.M-S didn't like the Thunderstorm generator and will regret his wording. 😆

In some ways I feel sorry for Randall, but on the other hand, I guess it might be a huge wake up call. Gonna be some really interesting podcasts coming out in 2024 once Bendall and his team do a runner.

Thank you very much for that input ! I really believed I had heard this “technology” before. Now I know I have and remember Pantone’s explanation from years ago• thank you for bringing a resolution to my quandary. Excellent job in my opinion.

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for looking into this and presenting this video I am extremely excited about this Technology.

A video I was excited to see you had posted! If anyone is interested in learning a lot more about this Alchemical Science and The Martin Fleischman Memorial Project explain it really well.

Engine exhaust might be around 240C, but the hottest part of the swirl guide is said to be like 767C. This is not a Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube, because there is a barrier between intake and exhaust flows, but it does scavenge entropy. How can this anomalously high temperature be explained?

While uv light won't ionize it will raise the electron orbital potential of a gas. This makes it more reactive and energetic atomically. It's the reason UV light sterilizes things and makes them fade.

After many years of experimenting; i have concluded that the smaller the size of gasoline vapor (particle size) , the leaner the engine can run, until we achieve smaller and smaller vapor size , and gasoline is a dry gas... (max. leanness ). I noticed that my huge 360 c.i. V8 ran very well with real hot air / fuel mix and a small single bbl. carburetor (meant for a much smaller engine.) in this way i could turn off the idling screw all the way vaporize

I love your videos . Thank you for educating.

Perhaps when the test data is viewed, with independent confirmation, you might reconsider your stance. Results speak for themselves i find.

It works if you stand on a quartz triangle with super sacred geometry, If you put a didgeridoo up the sphinx secret sphincter on winter solstice

never mind explaining why it wont work it does work it does work !!!!

Much respect Neil. Do what is best for you and your family. Many admire your work and the value and advice you bring to this and other channels. There are other communication channels out there and when you have value - people will find your message! Especially loved your in depth details on the Great Depression Era segments (well worth an award and a valuable legacy to younger kids in the historical content and accuracy). Save the good stuff and your hard work for a medium which treats you right. Thanks for the insight you provided today and hopefully other content providers appreciate it. Cheers sir. You do great work and it is genuine!

A beautifully executed exposition of knowledge based truth by Robert here.

Hi Rob I think you are a fascinating presenter. Since your review of the thunderstorm generator was aired I respectfully request that you review the latest information on this on various websites as I understand your review and I would have totally agreed with this a few months ago. But I had come across other information about this and it appears to have been previously covered up in the past. No surprise there. Please look into recent conventions on alternative sources,. It will enable you to contact a uk based company working on this in conjunction with oversees. I will await your comment once you have investigated. Many Thanks. P.J

As a mechanic of many many years, I can tell you that we used water injection clear back to my '69 Oldsmobile. We hooked it to an off idle vacuum port on the carburetor and it helped. A major problem was carburetor icing and, of course, winter. We are talking about a 455 cubic inch (7.5l) engine which was extremely inefficient.

I wish we could take Stephen Meyers water spark plug apart and examine it!! Thank you good sir that was interesting!

I agree with you mate. Paul is the one who suffered to bring this technology to the world, hey?

"I have my Ideas, & I'm sure you have yours" served with warm smile its your line, but its mine now, too ! Bravo RMS. watched his magicbeanstalk engine video years back. Early internet days nostalgia indeed! A pleasure to hear you debunk it, context and rationale. spot on.

Some automobile engines have similar cavitation where they have too thin of a cylinder liner and the coolant that is directly in contact will cavacate and destroy the liner because this cavitation produces micro Plasma bubbles and eats away the liners in fact they use a product to break surface tension added into the coolant to help with this process. Very similar but in an Uncontrolled way

I have been awaiting a real explanation of this- thank you!

Now I am trying to find something I remember reading about a research group at MIT developing a carburetor that partially converted incoming fuel & air to plasma. I do not know what the insertion point was for the plasma, presumably ignition. But, it apparently improved overall performance or efficiency by slightly over a third. The problem arose from the electrical load required to generate the plasma, originally it put more load on the alternator than the process produced per unit of fuel. IIRC they eventually found a better way to create the plasma, getting a 10% (?) net improvement, but at that point you're talking about adding a bunch of expensive parts to gain a little efficiency from the cheapest part of the process. Since the result of the process wasn't an improvement to performance that could push an engine beyond other technologies, I don't think it ever went anywhere after that due to being economically worthless.

3:55 -CORRECTION - Pantone also had a rod inside of his reactor as well that would become magnetically north & south poled after use (the center sphere may act similarly in Bendell's reactors?...a sphere is best for gyroscopic-particle-transmission as it is, so an improvement on Pantones design.). The rods length was an important factor when tuning the engine to run efficiently or at all & would be trimmed as indicted by the burn rings present after the 1st run. Pantone GEET Technology was taught in some of the UK vocational universities/trade schools. Pantone was also pharmaceutically drugged by the state, abused & was clinically misdiagnosed in an attempt to discredit his character & sanity (you fell for it)(solitary confinement is torture) ....Pantones tale is a very VERY sad tale....yet another example of suppressed technology's & another destroyed inventor. And the technology is a bit more sophisticated/scientifically, than just atomizing water vaper & injecting it into the engine (Come on think). This is a combination of Dr. Stanley Meyers HHO Tech & his Generator Tech, the Papp Motor & Pantones Tech, we're dealing with resonance frequencies & technology you really don't have experience with. (You haven't stepped outside of the box you were taught in, is the issue.) So, your skepticism is understood, but it also means you need to learn your history & understand that there's a level of systemic corruption/pseudo-science/false teachings that exists within certain scientific fields...... CVD should have taught you that and should make you question just about everything you've ever learned that is considered conspiratorial/impossible...9....11.....likewise. Peace & good luck

Absolutely facinateing ....... !!!!!! I remember in the early to mid 80s a couple of Buddy's fitted a mk3 zephyr motor in to a Thames trader van and were experimenting with a crude water injection system , that is a smaller percentage with petrol ....... I can't remember details other than they did increase mpg ......o I miss the 80s ..... Thankyou for this facinateing journey !!!! 😉😎

As soon as I saw the first video on this system, I knew it was a GEET system.

although an engine design that requires very limited lubrication is probably preferred if we are going to run it isolated and hot.

So did you build one yet to give it its rest or are you still talkin

I just watched a video on this yesterday and I was going to ask you about it! Haven’t watched your video yet but I’m looking forward to it!!

I love the scientific analysis of the foundations of the device to determine if and why it would or would not work and why it’s unique or not. Take a Pat on the back for the knife twisting in the final few moments of the video. I won’t bother googling his background. I think I can guess.

With my limited knowledge i thought the pantone device was suspect (a feeling) having it clearly explained is brilliant thank you

Rob is a good guy and love his videos. But he is operating from inside the fish tank of the matrix. The only way to get out of the fish tank is to build a esoteric device and see the results for yourself

Exactly my thoughts when I saw it 🤔😎

Its the manetical thermal heat shock realized in a vacume that does the magic which is to the best of my discription tearing and reaforming atomicly difent and even new atomic gases and compounds ,depending on the vacume and the resininance induced by the engine revs and or the restriction and the rotashion of the all importent ristricting rod that you all have failed to mention my friend!, its an esential part in my experience as you can tune the gasses and compounds that exit the equalizing intake valve as mine is a closed loop with no exhaust! Like paul originaly intended! And i have vide of it runing if ennybody wonts to see!

This cropped up in my YT feed, too. It's an artifact of the algorithm I think.

The Pistol shrimp creates the same phenomenon, hey?

Apparently this system is being trialled at a London power generation station. If what Randel Carson is saying is correct, I would hold back on the person's character bit. Probably best to let this play out. The tech is fully open source so if it works as apparently recent demos and trials have suggested then the genie will be out the bottle.

kind of an exhaust gas scrubber runs on water that scavenges efficiency and cleans up the exhaust.... seems pretty cool to me. call it plasma or plasmoids if they want to, they built it, I'm going to try. Thanks for your help with the information

I appreciate your ability to rekindle my desire to learn things.

Reminds me of my moms 1979 plymouth horizon. Came with a 1.7 four cylinder. When I got it I swapped out the bias tire to a larger ratio sidewall radial tire in effect changing the gear ratio of the manual 4 speed. Found out later it was a vw 1.6 block elderbrock manifold and a 2 barrel holley carburator. Put together by Chrysler. Pass in 3rd at 55 to 70 mph.....55mpg or better a real sleeper... l talked to other owners who kept theirs just because of the mpg...from Canada

Water injection was used under emergency power conditions in P-47 Thunderbolt fighter aircraft in WWII (and others no doubt) but this merely cooled the cylinders when at extra high power I suspect.

Yes, the manifold vacuum is strongest at idle , it's a trap for the inexperienced tinkerers. You need to tap into the correct point along the Venturi of your classic carburettor layout or simply contrive a Venturi effect somewhere in the manifold to obtain proportional vacuum to load instead of an inverse ratio if tapped into the linear section of the manifold. Watching various videos on the Venturi effect is a help .

We would be better off making a Vortec air spiral using a turbo charger compressor. I use a small version for machining tight tolerance parts. It can blow out air cooled to -50F.