.22 Magnum is Pretty Good

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5 жыл бұрын

Is .22 Magnum a good caliber for personal protection? Maybe. .22 Mag has been around for nearly 60 years, but for most of that time, it's been a cartridge primarily used for hunting small game and plinking. But in recent years, there has been a rising interest in using lightweight .22 Mag revolvers for concealed carry. In Part 8 of our Pocket Pistol Series, I'm considering the pros and cons of relying on a .22 Mag when your life may depend on it.
Correction: At 6:28, when I said "... a 36% increase in penetration" I should have said 40%. Math is hard, ya'll.
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@TCW838
@TCW838 2 жыл бұрын
I was shot by a .22 mag (hollow point) in the shoulder when I worked in law enforcement. It shattered the clavicle and the bullet itself fragmented into 11 peices, with some of the prices severing a nerve. It's an effective self defense round, given the proper ammo. Foot note: It's funny the number of people who expect you to become "anti-gun" after an incident like this. The gun did nothing to me. The a** hole using the gun did. Luckily, he died in prison. I wasn't the only person he shot.
@robertobrien4799
@robertobrien4799 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your sacrifices!
@stringsandthings511
@stringsandthings511 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this should go viral 👍
@konkyolife
@konkyolife 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, glad to see you you’re ok!
@bigbowlowrong4694
@bigbowlowrong4694 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwelndiobel1567 Nah, it tickled. What do you think?!😆
@the_LuckyPenny
@the_LuckyPenny 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you and continue to heal all your scars. ❤️
@chuckroast3573
@chuckroast3573 4 жыл бұрын
I am in my 70s, carry a .22mag, 9 shot revolver, 45 grain round, I have never had a misfire, ever. Very good for recoil as I have arthritis . I feel fine using this as a daily carry. I have never seen anyone volunteer to be shot with a ..22 yet
@treverdavis5881
@treverdavis5881 4 жыл бұрын
Internet commando s have yet to post a video of them walking off a round of 22 . I agree with you sir !
@MoarteaLunii
@MoarteaLunii 4 жыл бұрын
I'd doubt anyone would be standing after getting 9 rounds of .22 in them.
@TsGhosty
@TsGhosty 4 жыл бұрын
My co worker swears a 22 wouldnt do anything to him lol im like ok bro
@davidfoster5787
@davidfoster5787 4 жыл бұрын
Over a decade in EMS. Saw more killed with. 22, than anything else.
@brianmorrison9066
@brianmorrison9066 4 жыл бұрын
Out of 4 guys shot with a .22 mag, 0 survived. I'd take a 22 mag with modern ammo over a .38 spl rn any day.
@JGray1968
@JGray1968 5 жыл бұрын
You should mention the biggest advantage the .22WMR has over the .22LR; it uses higher quality jacketed bullets.
@boomstick4054
@boomstick4054 4 жыл бұрын
As far as “self defense”, I have had to use a 22 Magnum twice, a rabid raccoon and a rabid dog. One gun was a High Standard derringer, the other was a Charter Arms mini revolver. Both chambered in 22 Magnum, both successfully dispatched the rabid animal with one shot. So yeah, 22 Magnum works.
@2Years2Farm
@2Years2Farm 2 жыл бұрын
What “charter arms mini revolver”? I have a charter arms and was wondering!
@boomstick4054
@boomstick4054 2 жыл бұрын
@@2Years2Farm it was a little 5 shot mini revolver manufactured by Charter Arms, & was almost identical to the Freedom Arms belt buckle revolver. Mine was new, & the first time I cocked the pistol, the mainspring broke. I sent it back to Charter Arms for repair. I had my revolver back within a week.
@boomstick4054
@boomstick4054 2 жыл бұрын
@@2Years2Farm no trigger guard, remove the pin & pull the cylinder to reload. Tiny little stainless steel single action revolver.
@siouxscout
@siouxscout 2 жыл бұрын
@@2Years2Farm Apparently Charter Arms used to make mini revolvers that look just like the NAA mini revolvers(which I own). Cant find anymore info on that.
@boomstick4054
@boomstick4054 2 жыл бұрын
@@siouxscout kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fs-clqmQq8CXlIU.html // Here’s the Charter Arms version.
@Cod3Thr33
@Cod3Thr33 5 жыл бұрын
"...the magnum is faster by 175 feet per second." That's a LOT more.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
Cod3Thr33 you be the judge.
@DickTickles
@DickTickles 5 жыл бұрын
Please bear with gunfire you hear in the background.
@bruceleroy8063
@bruceleroy8063 5 жыл бұрын
PH
@davidtatelo
@davidtatelo 5 жыл бұрын
@@bruceleroy8063 PH for president.
@adamcostilla1692
@adamcostilla1692 5 жыл бұрын
Said in his best Paul Harrell voice.
@jackmiller7355
@jackmiller7355 5 жыл бұрын
I stopped shooting Prairie Dogs with 22 long rifle, even at short range, when shot square in the chest they would jump around a while. With the 22 magnum they went out like someone had turned off a light switch.
@truckert9729
@truckert9729 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing by your comment you have no idea what a prairie dog is.... Like any woodchuck, they need to be shot to keep animals like cattle or horses from getting broken legs with their holes.
@btm380
@btm380 4 жыл бұрын
A humane kill is best. Good onya!
@robsorgdrager8477
@robsorgdrager8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@truckert9729 that's why I use 458 socom bal . 😈 I'm from south Dakota and when I was a kid we'd spend time on a farm ( our version of summer camp ) in Chamberlain . The owner would pay us 25 cents per prairie dog . I'd bring my all my guns ( you know, cus at 12 yrs old a boy needs ten guns ) and my friends and I would make some good spending money. We even got hired by some the surrounding farms. The three of us would pool money at the end of the week for ammo and comics and sodas .
@jasongallman2032
@jasongallman2032 4 жыл бұрын
@johnnys141 hey man, mom found her underwear in your closet again. You gotta stop wearing her panties John.
@robsorgdrager8477
@robsorgdrager8477 4 жыл бұрын
@Sharron Clark yes, dying hurts. If it's alive and then it dies there normally is pain involved. Did you know sneezing stops your heart? If you sneeze a hoe bunch in a row then not only will it hurt but you may die and that might hurt too.😉
@alejandro12692
@alejandro12692 2 жыл бұрын
I'm staring at my Ruger 22 Magnum revolver right now. My father gave it to me when I turned 13. It's still one of my favorite possessions. The 22 Magnum is an awesome round.
@miketv218
@miketv218 4 жыл бұрын
I am not much of a "comment guy". Usually I will tap the "like " icon and move on. Your presentation on this caliber was succinct , fair, and highly informative. Outstanding!
@AlMacasaet
@AlMacasaet Жыл бұрын
agree
@wsieber89
@wsieber89 4 жыл бұрын
I have an 8 shot Taurus 941 in 22wmr. It had a horribly heavy trigger pull in double action. Did some reading online, and after a little spring work I feel like the trigger pull weight was cut in half. I'm also glad that I have about 350 rounds through it after the spring work and haven't had any reliability issues. It's a nice little revolver and 22 magnum is a joy to shoot.
@yamascott
@yamascott 5 жыл бұрын
I love my .22 mag rifle, I call it an "East coast .223"
@theresametts9457
@theresametts9457 4 жыл бұрын
The .22 Mag is actually a .224.
@shofarsogood7504
@shofarsogood7504 4 жыл бұрын
But so is a 223
@redlicoricerifleexpert7489
@redlicoricerifleexpert7489 3 жыл бұрын
It's terrible on racoons.
@TriangleSquare52
@TriangleSquare52 3 жыл бұрын
@@redlicoricerifleexpert7489 ????????
@yamascott
@yamascott 3 жыл бұрын
@@zcoleman4187 With trees everywhere, shots are rarely over 100 yards, so a .22 magnum is adequate power here.
@saxarra43
@saxarra43 5 жыл бұрын
Bought a 22 magnum revolver for my daughter. Better to have a 22 magnum on you then a 45 at home.
@johncarter6238
@johncarter6238 5 жыл бұрын
saxarra43 @Good work from you as a parent. I gave my daughter a beautiful little ballistic backpack and a super small North American Arms 22 Magnum revolver. With a head shot it's just game end for the bad ass. The best weapon is the weapon you carry with you 24/7, Having a hand cannon at home is fun but useless.I sleep and take even a bath with my glock 24/7 He is my best friend in this life that I can count on
@johncarter6238
@johncarter6238 5 жыл бұрын
@@@Rain-tt9dr Then she only had to shoot once to kill. But better was a 2.5 inch 44. Fits better in her bag
@andrewhatton1606
@andrewhatton1606 5 жыл бұрын
I have a xds 45 it’s amazing
@aportilla007
@aportilla007 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rain-tt9dr This is not wise, you need to get her a small round and lots of range practice. A full size .44 magnum revolver is not pleasant to shoot, let alone a snub.
@ammizootz3044
@ammizootz3044 5 жыл бұрын
If i was in america i would just be happy i could have guns. In the uk u cant even own a 22 pistol at home, unless u like 5 years inside
@thomasanderson6426
@thomasanderson6426 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with the .22 magnum. I'm a mess without it, I can't eat when it's away. If we argue I'm not relieved until we make up. I'm sure we'll be one of those stories you hear about, how when one is dies the other will pass a short time after, a few months. It makes sense, we've been together since we were 12, talking on the phone all evening, "no, you hang up first - no, you hang up first......"
@marsrizzo2854
@marsrizzo2854 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a Indian in Alaska drop a moose with a 22 mag got it right in the eye it just dropped.Was beyond badass
@AntonEugeneLanthier
@AntonEugeneLanthier 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, I'd be excited asf if I got that much meat with that cheap of a bullet and (probably) gun.
@LuckyGunner
@LuckyGunner 5 жыл бұрын
That's impressive.
@TheGetFreshFlow
@TheGetFreshFlow 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arBnnsqhrserlX0.html This is a great video of a guy taking out a 400lb boar with a .22lr. Subsonic ammo. Right in the eye.
@georgeshorter142
@georgeshorter142 5 жыл бұрын
Jüdäs not allowed to criticize native Americans ☝🏻 especially their hunting. I saw a video of them whaling, where they blasted at a humpback’s brain with an AK47 when it surfaced 😳
@AntonEugeneLanthier
@AntonEugeneLanthier 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgeshorter142 lmao
@donovanbroadway7702
@donovanbroadway7702 5 жыл бұрын
I love the small gun series!
@donovannotmyname7306
@donovannotmyname7306 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa hey! We got the same first name!
@donovanbroadway7702
@donovanbroadway7702 5 жыл бұрын
@@donovannotmyname7306 That's pretty cool man.👍🏻
@donovanbroadway7702
@donovanbroadway7702 5 жыл бұрын
@War Zone I like small guns for fun. I actually cary a 9mm or 357 magnum. And as for rifle rounds I like 556,762-39,308 ,450 Bushmaster, 45-70. Small game hunting I like 22 lr. But all that aside as long as you can put rounds on target where it needs to go. Small or big shot placement counts.
@malancline13
@malancline13 4 жыл бұрын
@@donovannotmyname7306 but you very clearly said Donovan was not in fact your man
@donovannotmyname7306
@donovannotmyname7306 4 жыл бұрын
@@malancline13 I lied.
@elcoyote9410
@elcoyote9410 5 жыл бұрын
Alot of people forget about the .22 Mag. Underrated. I've got an old single action ruger with an interchangeable cylinder that I can use .22 mags with. Fun
@reggaetonjones1988
@reggaetonjones1988 2 жыл бұрын
Out of 500 22wmr rounds, I've had only one failure to fire. Half of the rounds fired were cci maxi mags and Hornady VMAX with the ballistic tip. The ftf was a cci and it fired when I rotated it into to chamber. Possibly an air bubble in the rim. It happens. I've been carrying a 22wmr heritage rough rider on my commute to work through campus and downtown and it has been serving me well. Helped me thwart a mugger by just presenting it. Better than a sharp than a sharp stick. Thanks for vid!
@justinriley8651
@justinriley8651 Жыл бұрын
the cci maxi mags didn't work in my son's heritage revolver either light primer strikes. rotated the rim tried 2 more times then it decided to go off. the heritage revolver is a piece of shit its not the ammo been shooting the same shit for 30 years! that gun will get you killed.
@reggaetonjones1988
@reggaetonjones1988 Жыл бұрын
@@justinriley8651 interesting 🤔. I haven't had those issues with it yet. I had an issue with hammer travel, but that was because of some custom grips I put on it. They were interfering with some of the internal parts. I've since upgraded to a Bersa Thunder in 380 if it makes you feel better. Have a good one.
@justinriley8651
@justinriley8651 Жыл бұрын
@@reggaetonjones1988 I think that you changing guns was a good idea. sell that heritage .
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Жыл бұрын
The mugger just sees a BIG revolver, not the caliber or action...for the quick glimpse the mugger gets, that is a model 29 for all he knows...gotta remember the vast majority of 'encounters' involve zero shots fired...
@justinriley8651
@justinriley8651 Жыл бұрын
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww that's dumb logic 🤣. anybody with a lick of sense isn't going to trust their lives to some old stupid wives tale like that 🙄 ! if you intend to defend yourself come prepared!
@benf8487
@benf8487 5 жыл бұрын
Why don’t they make defensive pistols designed around rim fire ammunition with “dual” firing pins?! The early lever guns used this fester to fairly good effect to increase reliability.
@rustyshackleford9604
@rustyshackleford9604 5 жыл бұрын
That's a really clever design
@terrywaters6186
@terrywaters6186 5 жыл бұрын
Because 22 ammo is not unreliable anymore, if it ever was. There are however unreliable firearms chambered in rimfire calibers.
@alexmoore1506
@alexmoore1506 5 жыл бұрын
Terry Waters still doesn’t mean it should be a go to unless you aren’t good with anything else
@bearcat648
@bearcat648 5 жыл бұрын
@@terrywaters6186 Yeah, it is much more reliable than it was, but in a self-defense gun, you want something that is as close to 100% as you can make it.
@BabyBenz96
@BabyBenz96 5 жыл бұрын
I would assume that by doubling your contact area you would have to double the force exerted on those firing pins. For a lever action- which is cocked via the rifle's lever- this isn't an issue. However, with revolvers this requires adding weight on an already heavier than average trigger.
@greylocke100
@greylocke100 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell did a video about barrel length, and any extra length .75 inches or more show an appreciable increase in muzzle velocity. Less than .75 inches the velocity increase wasn't as great and fell into the difference from round to round.
@adamdavis4417
@adamdavis4417 4 жыл бұрын
greylocke100 Paul Harrell is legend.
@paulross9287
@paulross9287 2 жыл бұрын
22 Magnum seems to be more affected by barrel length than any other caliber.
@astrotrek3534
@astrotrek3534 3 ай бұрын
@@paulross9287 Being a thinner cartridge, it relies more on powder burn than a wider cartridge of similar size, making barrel length more important.
@tootall5559
@tootall5559 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard about the primer problem for 50 years. Frankly, I've never had a big problem with it. I can recall only one or two rounds that failed to go off, both in revolvers and rifles. I've probably shot ten thousand rounds or more over the years. This so called problem just wasn't there, and I was generally buying the cheapest ammo I could find...yeah a kid could go to the hardware store and buy 22 ammo way back then, before 1968 when everything got screwed up.
@nbachillzone8725
@nbachillzone8725 2 жыл бұрын
dude i’m 18 and just bought .22 magnum at big 5 today in CA and i had go through a background check with fingerprints and everything and it 50 dollars for 100 rounds fucking crazy how times have changed. moral of the story never sacrifice freedom for security
@colddeadhand7414
@colddeadhand7414 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a little NAA 22 mag with the folding grip. It's loaded with the Speer Gold Dot self defense stuff. I bought it solely for the purpose of being able to carry a gun when I can't technically carry a gun. It is perfect for that purpose or simply as a backup gun. I can clip it in my pocket and forget it's even there and it looks just like a pocket knife while in the pocket.
@nicholaspetre1
@nicholaspetre1 Жыл бұрын
The data you provide after your tests is exceptional and priceless! Thank you so much for your hard work!!!
@Sube-Tube
@Sube-Tube 5 жыл бұрын
3:50 my dad's ruger single six has never failed to fire, with either the .22 or the .22 magnum cylinders
@bobburnitt5389
@bobburnitt5389 4 жыл бұрын
That is TRUE with MY Single Six as well, and almost true with my 10-22. But I bought a S&W number 617, and with some ammo it has a 10% misfire rate. It got BETTER seemingly after it got about 10,000 rounds through it. On some brands it is about a 1% misfire. I cannot explain how it got "better" but it did. It has about 20,000 rounds though it now, BB
@johngraesser4911
@johngraesser4911 4 жыл бұрын
My .22 magnums have never failed to fire until I tried that new Winchester bulk pack .22 magnum, game and target universal rimfire. Had a round fail twice within 24 rounds of testing. I eliminated it as a cheap option for carry right then. My cci's, Hornady and other plastic grid packed ammo are still 100%.
@trfsphone8509
@trfsphone8509 4 жыл бұрын
Mines never had a ftf either.
@sethwatson8952
@sethwatson8952 4 жыл бұрын
You know, I have that gun too, and it also never seems to misfire.
@donna30044
@donna30044 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Ruger Single Six in .22LR, with a switchable .22HMR cylinder. It is a single-action revolver with a 6" barrel, and it's a tack driver at 25 yards with either caliber (and decent ammo). No, it's not very concealable and I really do not use it as a self-defense weapon, but it's an excellent varmint gun.
@colemanbonner
@colemanbonner 2 жыл бұрын
The CCI 22WMR varmint rounds with the 30 grain Hornady V-mAx projectiles makes for a very high velocity, great expansion, and great penetration, even out of a snub-nose revolver
@AK-ky3ou
@AK-ky3ou Ай бұрын
They do not expand in a barrel that short, not Evan a 4” barrel.
@martinwall7297
@martinwall7297 5 жыл бұрын
I love this round.22mag very underrated
@alanhelton
@alanhelton 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Kel Tec PMR 30. I love my XTM22 from Rock Island even more. It’s simply more reliable. I can even run the 30gn loads where you simply can’t in the PMR. However I have to reload twice as often. However, I find the mag changed way easier in the XTM. I however carry the Kel Tec daily as it is just a more comfortable platform in weight, and sight picture. 22 mag lb for lb is damn near on par with 9mm in regards to FTLBS. Only a few foot pounds separate the two. I love my 22s! Either way carry on!
@thomasroberts1554
@thomasroberts1554 4 жыл бұрын
My wife's 1st handgun was a Charter arms pathfinder in 22mag. Put a lot of rounds through it with zero problems. I would recommend it to people with a smaller budget. Great video.
@bradclem6226
@bradclem6226 2 жыл бұрын
NAA is the best little revolver to carry by far. Sidewinder is the best one. Well made and accurate for what it is.🏆
@oldcrust4741
@oldcrust4741 5 жыл бұрын
I "downgraded" to a 351PD from the brutal, fire-breathing, hand-crushing 360PD. I put a lot of rounds down range with the 360, and suffered greatly for my efforts. I love the .357, but it's a questionable fit for an 11 oz. J frame. 22 WMR, however, is an ideal round for a firearm that weighs about as much as a handful of potato chips. As a side note, I tested several different brands of ammo in the 351, and Speer Gold Dot, Critical Defense, and Fiocchi FMJ were the most consistently accurate. I could keep groups within 2 inches (7 yds rested) with those loads, while others opened up considerably. Armscor was the worst with typically two wild flyers out of 7 rounds. Lastly, I have yet to experience an ignition failure with the 351PD after approximately 200 rounds fired. YMMV.
@ssspencerjr
@ssspencerjr 5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 351C this evening, can't wait to shoot it. It's so light it feels like a toy.
@thealsatian4232
@thealsatian4232 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I’ve had misfires with .22 long rifle ammo and NEVER with a .22 Magnum
@freedomle4022
@freedomle4022 5 жыл бұрын
More revolvers please. Your reviews are awesome. Cartridge brands, cross reference between 22LR 22WMR, velocities, jell test, shooters experience and suggestions, what more can we ask for. Solid review. Thank you.
@thesaint1517
@thesaint1517 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Good analysis different cartridges and barrel lengths. I own at Keltec pistol and a Henry lever 22 mag and I thoroughly enjoy them. I totally agree that for a defense cartridge, it has the problem of missing some shots every once in a while and that's no no for defense. The advantage of this cartridge is the low recoil and superb for varmint hunting with a long barrel using the right ammo. Keep these videos coming.
@randydewees7338
@randydewees7338 4 жыл бұрын
Ratio of the squares of the velocities yields the relative energies. The WMR has 42% more energy, nice correlation with penetration.
@andymcgowan9819
@andymcgowan9819 5 жыл бұрын
327 please!
@LuckyGunner
@LuckyGunner 5 жыл бұрын
That is included with the .32 revolver calibers.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say that would be compatible with everything .32 only problem will be free bore for accuracy but we aren’t comparing “accurate” guns, just concealable.
@narkfly
@narkfly 5 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to hear 32 revolver calibers! I know the currently available selection of 327 fed mag revolvers is really limited, but I think it's a really capable round, especially with an increased capacity over 357 / 38. And getting four and a half caliber options for the price of one means you don't need to buy a trainer, it's already built in.
@bowtguy4929
@bowtguy4929 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a 32 newb
@dallasdinglewood1091
@dallasdinglewood1091 5 жыл бұрын
That 100 grain AE soft point is a slammer.
@Frissdas1207
@Frissdas1207 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to get shot by any caliber bullet leaving a firearm.
@sethdoane5295
@sethdoane5295 4 жыл бұрын
Frissdas1207 true that I got hit my a 22lr and it sucked
@landroveraddict2457
@landroveraddict2457 4 жыл бұрын
I from the UK best we are allowed is a shotgun. I have always been puzzled why some people maintain they need a Dirty Harry for home defence. Shoot the intruder with a 22 and they will more than likely leave. If they don't shoot them again, it makes for less time at the cop shop and less to clean up after. Shoot them with a 44 or a shotgun you still be finding bits a week later. Oh before you say it, yes I am jealous, 40 years ago I use to go shooting with a martini action 22. Now I'm limited to an 11flbs air gun only good for rabbits and plinking in the garden. You guys are lucky, I should have moved to the State when I was young enough. 😭
@CygnusFour
@CygnusFour 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good policy, definitely.
@johnphilly2479
@johnphilly2479 3 жыл бұрын
But if I had to...I'd go with a 9mm
@realtalk4real243
@realtalk4real243 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to get shot by a squirt gun
@eltigre8978
@eltigre8978 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great series! I've really enjoyed your pocket pistol info. Looking forward to more videos.
@TexasTrained
@TexasTrained 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been a big fan of 22WMR since 1974 when I bought my 1st brand new Winchester Lever Rifle. I've had some semi autos and a few pumps in 22wmr too as well as pistols. They are way underrated in my opinion.I have a double shot Derringer in 22WMR. Thanks.I will be ooking into a revolver
@mariomarez2223
@mariomarez2223 5 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from this channel! 22mag is a round I have carried plenty of times, while running in pair of running shorts, or sweats loaded in a NAA. Figured it was better than nothing!
@mariomarez2223
@mariomarez2223 5 жыл бұрын
@Kali Southpaw Yes that's the one!
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been contemplating what to get when I go jogging outdoors. After a recent run it occurred to me im putting myself in a very vulnerable situation not being armed... I whittled it down to an LCP .380 or KelTec .32 with one of those frame mounted clips, like pocket knives have, that I can clip onto my elastic band appendix style. I couldnt decide if the NAA crosses my personal line of actually being too small to be practical. Not the cartridge but the revolver itself.
@mariomarez2223
@mariomarez2223 5 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantbigmac I hear you about almost being too small in size. That 22 mag NAA (1 5/8" barrel) clipped inside my underwear and running shorts, using a IWB holster, was so light I would not notice it a few minutes into my run. Not trusting the caliber to immediately stop someone from shock with an upper torso hit, I exclusively trained shooting head shots at point blank range out to about 10 feet. I used my left thumb to cock the hammer back as fast as I could, while it was being lowered from recoil from the previous shot using my right/strong hand. I think I got pretty good and fast with it. Anyway good luck finding the right running gun.
@andreahighsides7756
@andreahighsides7756 5 жыл бұрын
sergeantbigmac I have med-small hands and can put 3 fingers on my NAA mag with slightly extended VZ grips. Gold dots are the fastest and expand the best in these short barrels
@denisdegamon8224
@denisdegamon8224 5 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantbigmac Look at the NAA "Black Widow"...it has larger grips (comfortable too) and a 2" barrel for a higher velocity in 22 magnum. Better sights also.
@MPGunther1
@MPGunther1 5 жыл бұрын
Keep 'em coming, LOVE the series
@BangBangBo
@BangBangBo 4 жыл бұрын
Taurus 942 in 2in or 3in, steel or ultra light models (24oz & 17.5oz respectively), 8 rounds, about $400 MSRP. The 3in will probably be a huge winner, especially the ultralight version!
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Жыл бұрын
We own a 2 inch steel model, it gets carried often, loaded with hornady or gold dots...it has been totally reliable, accurate out the box...we shoot the gun every couple months, we really like it...
@mdk2066
@mdk2066 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, good content. I would suggest that it's not usually light primer strikes in a rimfire, but more likely a gap in the priming compound. That's why they almost always go bang if they're re- chambered.
@TaylorS89
@TaylorS89 5 жыл бұрын
I seriously wish this was a TV show. You are awesome! Such great production. Keep it up Chris.
@ZappasMudshark
@ZappasMudshark 5 жыл бұрын
You know you can watch KZfaq on a tv? And if this was cable you’d have a shit ton of commercials to deal with? I don’t understand this boomer comment.
@RonyTomo420
@RonyTomo420 4 жыл бұрын
Hahah boomer stoopid 😝👎🏼
@sorenpx
@sorenpx 3 жыл бұрын
@Evan Moyer He probably means he'd like to see longer episodes that have the budget of a television show.
@haldorasgirson9463
@haldorasgirson9463 2 жыл бұрын
This is a TV show. The legacy networks are dead, they are just kicking a bit like a prairie dog shot with a .22LR. Imagine streaming shows that nobody is watching? What a waste of bandwidth.
@user-td1zo3tv9p
@user-td1zo3tv9p 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I bought and carried a S&W in the PD version when I had surgery years ago to both of my hands and I couldn't grip anything else and control the recoil. I still have that little powerhouse (??) and will carry it if I'm wearing very light weight shorts and need deep concealability over something else that would be considerably heavier. I also inherited a 4" S&W revolver I bought my Dad when his arthritis prevented him firing his beloved .357 Magnum or any autoloader, and got it back after Dad passed away. It is a very mild shooter but its bark is FAR louder than what you'd expect for the cartridge size. Both of those guns are good little shooters although their ammo feeding needs are pricey to fulfill given their caliber. As I said I like both guns and haven't any plans to sell either. Yet. Then there is the Marlin Bolt Action rifle. Never a stellar performer in the accuracy department, it has taken a couple of rogue feral dogs who made life difficult when I wanted to go outside of my house and into my own yard. Not any more, though. It is just a fun gun to shoot. Thanks for the video and data. It is enjoyable.
@jerrydonquixote5927
@jerrydonquixote5927 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video and very informative with the ballistics with different ammo in different barrel lengths thank you!
@nuancolar7304
@nuancolar7304 4 жыл бұрын
There's an old axiom: "Any gun is better than no gun at all." The .22 mag is definitely 'pretty good' to have if no other gun is available. But it's better to try several different centerfire calibers (start with .380 and go up from there), settle on what you're comfortable shooting, and practice, practice, practice.
@imthatguy1878
@imthatguy1878 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 22mags I've got them from revolvers to semiauto pistols, bolt to lever action rifles , great caliber
@andyostertag
@andyostertag 5 жыл бұрын
Good presentation of your information. Thanks for sharing
@artbell1
@artbell1 3 жыл бұрын
We need some Lehigh and Underwood xtreme defender rounds in 22 mag! It would be a game changer!
@ArmatisReviews
@ArmatisReviews 5 жыл бұрын
That was incredibly helpful information. Thank you!
@wschield608
@wschield608 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure why but despite popular consensus while using the Hornady Critical Defense 22 mag I’ve only had one failure to fire in 200 rounds and with Gold Dot for short barrel, zero failures in 400 rounds. Both while using my NAA 22 Magnum. This reliably holds true with CCI 22 long rifle in my Ruger SR22. So needless to say I’m a 22 fan. My original EDC was an M&P 9C. I loved that gun but I found myself finding excuses not to carry it which really defeats the purpose. Over the last couple of years I’ve carried pocket pistols religiously. Taurus 738 TPC, Beretta Pico or the NAA 22 Magnum. I realize these may be a joke to some but to me, I feel they may just be a game changer. Thanks again for all your hard work. Wes
@ottoleisering7855
@ottoleisering7855 5 жыл бұрын
Well and intelligently presented video. Something, and anything, is better than nothing. I once lended a .38 short Thompson and Contender pistol to an acquaintance and he remarked to it gave him a feeling of confidence/security as he traveled across the US to visit his family from one coast to the other. A .39 short is a puny round.
@tonys7675
@tonys7675 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best vids yet. Excellent analysis.
@tigerpanther777
@tigerpanther777 5 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of you, talking about these guns. They are good entry guns and honestly...a master marksman can defend himself with these quite well.
@casualobserver77
@casualobserver77 5 жыл бұрын
In South Florida where it's hot as hell 11 months out of the year, I mostly carry a glock 42. But sometimes I carry my North American Arms Sidewinder in 22 Mag. An excellent little pocket gun in my opinion...
@jasonlessard2373
@jasonlessard2373 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a LCR in 22M for a few years/several hundred rounds. Zero misfires. I bought it, over the S&W due to price and trigger. I find the LCR trigger to be much lighter than the Smith, Taurus or Charter arms. The Taurus rim fire trigger was so hard it flared up my tennis elbow after just a couple dry fires at the gun counter.
@scottmorgan1016
@scottmorgan1016 5 жыл бұрын
Just found this series. Great job
@chrisoxford4026
@chrisoxford4026 2 жыл бұрын
Great article. I love my Smith air lite .22 mag revolver and this cartridge in it.
@danielhiggins8798
@danielhiggins8798 5 жыл бұрын
My older brother bought a Ruger single 6 convertible in the early 70s. We were amazed how much difference there was between the 22 LR and the 22 Mag. The mag seems like the perfect survival round. You can easily take down a deer with it.
@Erin-bd6jg
@Erin-bd6jg Жыл бұрын
I think "easily" is quite a stretch
@danielhiggins8798
@danielhiggins8798 Жыл бұрын
@@Erin-bd6jg My dad shot lots of deer with a 22 LR. We needed the meat and it was quiet enough to not alert the "authorities". We lived in fairly heavy bush. Mostly up close head shots.
@michellebrooks3512
@michellebrooks3512 3 ай бұрын
Once again kids....Accuracy is final.
@NewbergUSA
@NewbergUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Cerebral as usual. The trigger pull aspect in combination with ammo unreliability is a game changer for me. I had been considering 22mag for my daughter but not now She will need to get used to a 38. The nice thing about revolvers: 60 second learning curve. I have the LCRx 38. Great carry gun for me though I changed the grip to the slightly larger grip used on the LCR .357 ($25). The stock grip was a little small for me and I don't like finger indents in my grip.
@wiskyBOY123
@wiskyBOY123 5 жыл бұрын
AS ALWAYS! Great info and video style. Keep up the good work brother.
@garymann7352
@garymann7352 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative as usual! Thanks!
@LShapedAmbush
@LShapedAmbush 5 жыл бұрын
Love the mouse gun series. I hope you will discuss how to carry the single action semi-autos like Beretta 950bs, Colt Junior, Sig P238, Colt Mustang, etc. I suspect most people carry them in either condition 3 (empty chamber) or condition 2 (hammer down on chambered round). I think it would be worthwhile to discuss the pros and cons of the different ways to carry them.
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video, Chris! I’ve never considered any rimfire for personal defense (too many FTFs), but I have considerable experience with - and respect for - the .22 WMR. Long ago, I was assigned to Durham, NC, and my family lived in a rural home on five acres, surrounded by hundreds of acres of essentially undeveloped land. It was great, however, the meadows and woods near our home were LOADED with some potentially dangerous critters. I was vigilant in keeping my property’s population of copperheads, raccoons, opossums, etc. under control, due to the pre-school kids. The .22 WMR was unbelievably effective (of course, this was fired from a bolt action rifle, not a handgun), and I’ve never doubted the round’s potential.
@beniciomoldenado2315
@beniciomoldenado2315 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are well done and informative. When I first learned about your channel I subscribed straight away. The series on small guns is great, keep it up. I am also a big fan of .22 WMR. I own a S&W model 63 which is .22 LR and I love it. If S&W will build a revolver "exactly" like the 63 only in .22 WMR I will buy one in a minute. Hey S&W, are you reading this? Thanks again for the good videos.
@benperea8483
@benperea8483 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting! Excellent video with tons of great information! And Excellent presentation
@tyguy3876
@tyguy3876 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I recently got my mother a Ruger LCRx .22wmr with the Speer ammo. Much less intimidating than her old S&W .38spl revolver.
@billygoat1708
@billygoat1708 3 жыл бұрын
Have the LCRx with a 3" barrel in 22 mag. Swapped out the clunky LCRx grip with the smaller LCR grip and love it as my carry gun. Virtually no recoil at all. Have never had a 22 mag misfire but have had many 22 LR misfired in other guns.
@k98killer
@k98killer 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the smooth outro. Not too wordy; gets the job done effectively.
@niadhf
@niadhf 5 жыл бұрын
I am loving this series. Thank you. (Now about that 9x18...)
@romans6two338
@romans6two338 5 жыл бұрын
I am a huge .22 LR fan and shoot them all the time because it is just fun and inexpensive. I don't see a lot of .22 mag in my state, but great video as always LGA.
@anthonymonaco5889
@anthonymonaco5889 4 жыл бұрын
Never had my S&W 351C misfire, Ever! Great carry gun and very balanced and comfortable to us.. Great concealed carry gun. Fits in your pocket in a sleeve holster.. I wish they were not so damn expensive. Ammo is as expensive as 9 MM
@stever.747
@stever.747 5 жыл бұрын
I like your reviews. Well presented info in a concise manner. 👍
@bacon81
@bacon81 5 жыл бұрын
I’m loving this series!
@mozzberg590
@mozzberg590 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see that you change your opinion after you crunch the numbers during testing.
@ghostape6481
@ghostape6481 Жыл бұрын
22 mag out of a bolt action rifle is great for small game up to coyotes. I have a 22 mag pistol and it is a formidable weapon, Grendel p30. Very interesting pistol.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great review of the 22 WMR. Glad you mentioned the LCRx. I have that in 38 Special with a 3" barrel. My only complaint there is the 5 round limit. I'd love to see the LCRx 3" revolver for 22 WMR but with a higher capacity. I have a Chiappa 1873 with a 10 round 22 WMR cylinder and 6.75" barrel but it is a single action revolver. For the skeptics of 22 ammunition, I lost a friend during the 5th grade to a 22 discharge that happened as he changed seats in the family vehicle.
@John1911
@John1911 5 жыл бұрын
I have very little experience with pocket rockets. But Ellifritz got me thinking about the 351c a few years ago. This was informative. Regards, Marky
@paulx2777
@paulx2777 11 ай бұрын
I got a Savage B22 Magnum in the tacticool package (with the threaded 16" barrel). I mounted a little old Weaver 2x scope. I have to say this modest little rifle is one of the most fun guns I have to shoot; not sure why! I guess the excellent accuracy and the excellent trigger helps. I also like not digging around in the weeds for my cases, heh. I have no other gun in this caliber.
@UnrelatedNonsense
@UnrelatedNonsense 5 жыл бұрын
22 mag is my favorite target practice round. Great range, cheap, and no recoil.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
@TheOldFatDadGoober 5 жыл бұрын
Really solid analysis! I like to do backyard science with this stuff, rimfire is good stuff.
@twist7799
@twist7799 4 жыл бұрын
I've got an old High standard 22 Mag, Probably over 50 yrs old. 9 round cylinder. 4 inch barrel. still works great.
@CaptainRudy4021
@CaptainRudy4021 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a formal ballistics test comparing various 22wmr ammo.
@jimjakosh2506
@jimjakosh2506 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 22 Mag Henry golden boy and my Keltek PMR 30 The best ammo I have found for penetration of maple plywood is Fiochi FMJ. Never had a misfire with any of the 5 brands of ammo I use.
@johnlong384
@johnlong384 2 жыл бұрын
Having several firearms in the mentioned calibers I very much like to thank you for your effort$ which resulted in very detailed information and yes, I also did enjoy your little 'fun-comments' partially hidden between the lines - sort of speak - take care and keep shooting!
@rthfalconer1306
@rthfalconer1306 4 жыл бұрын
Can't say enough about the 351 PD. I've had mine for years and couldn't be happier
@ExpatGringo
@ExpatGringo 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, as always. I would not feel too undergunned with a .22mag LCR, and it is tempting, but I think I'll stick with my .38 S&W for now. And, I know it's controversial, but I may pick up a .22lr revolver to practice with CHEAP .22lr, then finish off the range session with some rounds out of the .38. THANKS again!!!
@smallp0xgaming
@smallp0xgaming 5 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most informative and high production value channels on KZfaq. It’s been an immense help transitioning to being a gun owner. Chris is the shit. PS just started ordering ammo through you guys. Let’s see a LG ballcap!
@robertchilders4031
@robertchilders4031 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see something on the Makarov! I am enjoying your information very much. Please keep up the good work.
@magicrobharv
@magicrobharv 5 жыл бұрын
Pocket pistol series: keep the great videos coming !!!
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 5 жыл бұрын
You did a good job on this video. Thanks for sharing. I doubt that I'll ever get a .22 LR or .22 WMR concealment gun. I'd rather just go with 9mm or .38 Special. Even so, the information about velocity loss in the small barrels is interesting. If I ever end up with a .22 WMR, I'll probably get a rifle.
@msev5713
@msev5713 5 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to see if you revisit the 22 mag in the PMR. I really love mine (even though a lot don’t), and carry it often.
@MKActual.
@MKActual. 4 жыл бұрын
M Sev gotta love it...I can carry 60 rounds and come in at a lighter weight then my XD9 with only 30 rounds. I carry my PMR30 in areas/places that are more prone to mass shootings (movies, malls, fairs) because of the number of rounds I can carry and how accurate the PMR30 is. When I don’t carry the PMR30 I carry the XD9
@MrAlin311
@MrAlin311 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video with excellent attention to details as usual !! I believe that smith wesson 351C revolver is the ultimate ccw in this caliber even though it has a little heavier trigger the the ruger lcr!!
@reccesam7799
@reccesam7799 5 жыл бұрын
No breaks needed. Love the content. Yes, please, makarov!
@ShredderSensei
@ShredderSensei 5 жыл бұрын
Gonna start carrying dual Heritage Rough Ryders
@swaghauler8334
@swaghauler8334 4 жыл бұрын
They make good trapping guns because they hit hard and you don't feel as bad IF you drop one of those into a frozen lake (compared to say a Ruger Single Six).
@billybo889
@billybo889 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting a rough rider soon also. I like the gun and have heard its a fairly decent revolver. I like the fact that you have the choice between 22lr and 22wmr.
@Hugs_4_Bugs_
@Hugs_4_Bugs_ 4 жыл бұрын
Good guns, I have the short barrel and long barrel .22s. I wouldn't use them for carry though. It's just impractical unless you're very experienced and even then, they're nearly impossible to conceal because their size and I'm just not a fan of open carry. Definitely not trying to walk around my town looking like John Wayne.
@KageMinowara
@KageMinowara 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hugs_4_Bugs_ Everyone should walk around looking like John Wayne though.
@faceless2302
@faceless2302 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone actually considering this might be careful, I've heard carrying SAAs is somewhat dangerous due to a tendency for accidental discharges. I don't know if all SAA related designs are prone to it but apparently the accepted remedy is just carrying with only 5 rounds, with the gun resting on the empty chamber.
@johnwizeman3894
@johnwizeman3894 5 жыл бұрын
YAY!!! 9mm MAK!!!! I sometimes carry a Glock 42 with a 9x18mm Makarov barrel from Lone Wolf Dist.
@tayloralbrecht8362
@tayloralbrecht8362 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously love your channel!
@joeianniello
@joeianniello 5 жыл бұрын
You make outstanding video's. Keep up the great work.
@spartaninvirginia
@spartaninvirginia 5 жыл бұрын
I am beyond excited to see your video on .32 ACP.
@24roughing76
@24roughing76 5 жыл бұрын
I'm debating purchasing a Beretta 3032 Inox for a pocket gun for hot summer days. Looking forward to the .32 acp video as well.
@spartaninvirginia
@spartaninvirginia 5 жыл бұрын
@@24roughing76 check the energy of any ammo you carry with it. Tomcats can crack their frame if you use too hot of ammo. The exact number is in the owners manual.
@24roughing76
@24roughing76 5 жыл бұрын
@@spartaninvirginia Yep. Been doing my research. Thank you. Plan would be FMJ'S under 130ft lbs in the magazine and 1 Underwood round in the barrel. Internetting has found a few with failures to feed with a mag full of Underwoods.
@JR-gp2zk
@JR-gp2zk 5 жыл бұрын
@@24roughing76 in the and 1990 before .380 pocket gun were a thing people carried .32 pocket guns. The .32 Tomcats had cracking issues and are suprisingly fat and heavy. Usually people who wanted a Beretta pocket gun back then opted for the .25 Bobcats for carry. The best .32 pocket gun in my opinion is the Kel tec p32 , followed by the Seecamp.
@DickTickles
@DickTickles 5 жыл бұрын
I'll save you the 10 minutes with my review on .32 ACP pocket guns and .32 ACP ammo. Three distinct ammo loads: 71 grain FMJ, 60 grain JHP, and 50 grain Lehigh Defense. FMJ pokes a hole about 18 inches, JHP expands and goes about 9 inches deep, Lehigh Defense goes 16 inches deep and does the most damage in gel. Four pocket pistols: NAA Guardian that isn't cheap, is heavy, has heavy recoil, almost no sights, and a terrible trigger. Kel-Tec P-32 that is cheap, light, has a terrible trigger, and is low recoiling. Beretta 3032 that is pricey, way too large and heavy to be a .32 ACP, has a good trigger, nice grip, but the frames and slides are prone to cracking. Seecamp is expensive and has no sights. If Ruger would make the LCP II in .32 ACP, it would be the best .32 ACP pocket gun in the world.
@LuckyGunner
@LuckyGunner 5 жыл бұрын
Correction: At 6:28, when I said "... a 36% increase in penetration," I should have said 40%. Math is hard, y'all. Edit: Found another mistake! On the chart at 7:28, "Hornady Crit. Duty" should say "Hornady Crit. Defense." Writing is hard, too, y'all.
@thenumerousfew1205
@thenumerousfew1205 5 жыл бұрын
I feel you iam 18 and suck at prealgerbra. I like farm work better 😉😉
@geometro9512
@geometro9512 5 жыл бұрын
Sound like those adds that pop up saying 40% more penetration in a week after taking this pill.
@graeme3023
@graeme3023 5 жыл бұрын
@@geometro9512 - meh, I tried them but 40% of 2 inches really doesn't make that much difference..
@ComradeArthur
@ComradeArthur 5 жыл бұрын
that matches up nicely with the 19% increase in velocity (1.19 x 1.19 = 1.42)
@darkspire91
@darkspire91 5 жыл бұрын
It's written with the 'a' and 'll' together...
@csipawpaw7921
@csipawpaw7921 Жыл бұрын
I believe that Misfires in rimfire ammo can be attributed to two problems. A. Rim fire ammo requires the primer material to fill the rims and it is not easy to avoid air bubbles that create voids in the rim with little or no priming material. As a result, if a round happens to line up or chambers with a void area where the firing pin strikes it, the round does not go off. The 22 magnum brass is slightly larger than 22lr and so it is easier to avoid void areas in the rim of a 22 magnum. B. In order for a rim fire weapon to reliably operate the hammer spring strength, weight of the hammer, headspace, and firing pin length are all important factors. A light hammer needs a stronger spring. Headspace, when just slightly too deep out of specifications, means the firing pin does not completely pinch the rim. A firing pin too short causes the same problem. These problems are the reason centerfire ammo was invented. Centerfire ammo allows weapon manufacturers to have looser tolerances and still operate reliably which means mass production is easier. In addition, a rimfire multi-round or semi-automatic weapon must be designed so that the rounds stack in a way that the rims do not interfere with the operation of the weapon. Such interference is called rim lock. In short, a reliable rimfire weapon is harder to make.
@partriarch
@partriarch 5 жыл бұрын
I own a S&W 351PD, and find the DA trigger extremely heavy, which pulls the sight off target when it touches off. Part of that poor result is undoubtedly my trigger control (need more practice). However, when I shoot it SA, the trigger is as close to a factory "feather trigger" as I've ever encountered on a revolver. Groups tighten up considerably to approximately 2-3 inches for a full cylinder of seven rounds. It is also so lightweight that I can forget I have it on my person. I've even bought two speed loaders for it, which work well. I also own two NAA Mini-Mags. One is the "HG" model with a very short barrel and a folding grip with a clip on the side to facilitate wearing inside the waistband, and one of which came with a conversion cylinder for .22LR. The conversion cylinder works with both models I have. Nice video.
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