No they are not comparable, the 22 mag will never shoot with a 17 HMR

​@@MrCobb-rq8ivSure it will, just add a 5 mph cross wind. Both have their uses, when times got tight during the ammo shortage, could always find 17 HMR, have put a bunch through my Savage.

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This has been a good demonstration for why we need to use the barrel length, the bullet weight and the bullet speed to calculate the foot lbs. of force from a cartridge.

For the price, why not just go 5.56 military surplus ammo?

Same. Especially with a hornady vmax

Idk why I have the same feeling man, can relate 100%

Yep, same here. Got a rifle and a Smith model 48. Great stuff.

Yep, Country boys learn young that you can take a heck of a lot more food home with a little bullet placed properly than with a big bullet placed poorly.

Hell yeah!! Appalachian and Allegheny Mountain raised!! Hunted with both ,a Marlin 22WMR bolt action,and a 12 gauge Remington 870. (Had a Marlin 36 30-30 in the gun rack) For what we hunted that's all the gun we ever needed

I agree but now you get a combo gun. 30-60/12 gauge for deer/quail or the ultimate squirrel gun 22 mag/410 over unders. Yrs ago you could get a "drilling" but their not made anymore and stupid expensive. Side by side shotgun with a rifle between/top of the shotgun. Now. If you can find one? 10-15 thou $$ is on the cheap side.

@kennethlocke4213 I had one of those 30 plus years ago. Didn't know what I had then 😞 .22lr on top .410 on bottom. Can't remember who it was made by as I got it in a trade for a 70s Buick Centurion. $45, a.22lr, and the over under. That was just before I left for the Army in 85. Not sure where it is now. Nostalgia took over and bought me a Pardner .410 3inch last year. I bought a 9mm sleeve for it due to hard to find slugs and my grandson (14) loves shooting it 🙂. Not to much longer it'll be his 😊. Hope he hangs on to it better than me.

@@kennethlocke4213 do you remember who mfg the 22/410?

I know when I was a kid I seen my dad shoot a red fox at about 100 yards with a 22 magnum and it took its lower jaw off and I know this because I seen it first hand, i have never shot a 17 hmr so i will not knock that round at all.

I'd agree. However if I was in the field and I'd only be carrying one it'd be the .17 HMR due to that flatter trejectory and ability to reach further out and touch the varmits. The only downside IMHO is if you've got a bit of wind the mass of the 22 mag would have less drift. The compromise would be to have one with swapable barrels, however that would not be ideal to do in the field.

Exactly spot on.

@@PaulAtreidesMuadDib Agree 100%. The .17 will be affected more by crosswind.

It started with the Automag II for me and now I'm using the PMR 30 for my EDC.

Got em both, hate the mag, 17 HMR all day long, or night.

@@MrCobb-rq8iv your choice, mag doesnt break up as much, speed and bullet weight combo always wins for my needs. enjoy

@@MrCobb-rq8iv Haven't had a chance to play with 17 HMR yet so can't say - what's wrong with WMR that you HATE it versus simply preferring HMR?

but if you hit a rabbit or pigeon they'll be smashed.

I was thinking the same. But I just like the 22 mag alot more. Great rimfire cartridge

Looks like a lot of people have their own opinion 's,no one has made another video to prove or disprove what was illustrated...... show me

@@paulpetty3331 maybe who tee who will show us

@@neilmoreland5476 probably a neat idea , but as of now 32h&r mag is very hard to find and favor seems to be falling from 327 as I type . In my opinion 327 is a very practical round as interchangeable with 32 long and 32h&r mag.Also 32 calibre bullets are renowned for accuracy. I don’t know what’s going on with ammo manufacturing but many calibers seem to be non existent.I always wanted to see an N Frame 8 shot in 22 hornet

@@randyblackburn9765 Randy ,,Thanks for your response and imput on the 32 cals..I'm aware of the current 32 cal centerfire cartridges which are pretty available here in SW OHIO where I reside. I'm bout 20 miles SW of Dayton Ohio. What I was really talking about is the 32 cal Rimfire ammo which has been obsolete since the early 1900s. There use to be many different Rimfire calibers available until the centerline rounds started dominating and the 22 cal long rifle rimfire hit the market and it too dominated the market. If my memory serves me right,, 32 and 44 calibers Rimfires date back to use in the Civil War even. I've shot some 32 cal long, Rimfire in my old Stevens rifle that my Dad had bought and was very impressed with it,,so I'm hoping some manufacturer of both guns and ammo might jump on the bandwagon and bring it back,,,and maybe make a rimfire, Long Rifle and Magnum round also both in rimfire.. I have 3 boxes of 32 caliber rimfire I bought early 2000 that's made in Brazil,,,Last run of 32 cal rimfire that I'm aware of. It was $41.00 a box of 50 then, round 2005.. Guess what it's going for now? Might as well be a box of GOLD now.. Wish I'd bought more,,guy said he had a pallet of it,,buy all I want..Duh,,I bought 3 boxes then.. But I wasn't aware the Brazilian company was shutting down production of their 32 cal rimfire long ammo then either...

Love my 17 WSM. Nasty little round

​@@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkhisn't that a centerfire cartridge? I'm not familiar with it.

@@patrickgriffitt6551 its a rimfire cartridge adapted from a .27 cal nail gun cartridge using 15, 20 or 25 gr .17 projectiles. It is currently the fastest rimfire in the world and the trajectory is absolutely amazing on it!

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@@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh Love to see a video featuring the ballistics of that round.

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More little bits to pick out of your meat.

Seems you can put a Lamb's Nipple on the barrel

They are surprisingly loud for sure.

I’m with you my friend 👍 that’s my #1 coyote round out to 150 yards.🤠

Don't forget hornady 45 gr critical defense, goes into 8" ballistic gel!!

Surely you can't be serious...

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@@billrowan1957 He is. And stop calling him Shirley!

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I agree if the shot placement of the 22mag was lower it would have gone through 5

Should have simply inverted the plates before shooting the 22 Mag.

@@glennrishton5679 Or new plates, nothing about this test was correct, pure BS.

I think that the 17 did the best. It basically matched the result of the 22 mag at half the weight. I do see the point of the place even with that. Half the weight.

I agree. The flex in the center of the plates ate up more of the punch.

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22 mag. is a very well designed cartridge. It put several small centerfire rounds out of the varmint business. such as the 25-20 and 32-20 because the ammo and rifles are cheaper but still get the job done at short ranges.

Most people don't need or want .22 mag. Return on cost isn't good.

The 22 hornet is an old cartridge, I think it dates back to the 1880's also it's a center fire so it would out perform just about any rimfire. For being an old round it's very expensive. I knew a rancher in Oregon who like it, he said is good flat shooting round up to 200 yards, used mainly for coyotes, small game and non-game varmints on his land. Always kept the rifle in his ranch truck.

@@michaelmurphy6869 - that is the problem with the Hornet - cost and availability. That's why the 22 mag. put the small varmint centerfires out if business. Ammo and rifles are cheap, and it is good up to 150 yards for varmints which is plenty for most farmers, hunters, etc. Compare the cost of a 22 mag. rifle to a 22 Hornet, no contest.

17 takes it. It was only 17grains and did the same as the mag lol. I bet the 20grain 17 will go threw 5 plates

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Before you get into rimfire, take a look at the latest modern pellet guns or known as air rifles out nowadays, close to as powerful as a rimfire 22 LR, cheaper to shoot and quiet, it is all that a person needs, with a scope.

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out of these 3 the 17 HMR has the least wind drift though

3" at 25 yards, LOL, come on, be real! Were you shooting during the peak of a hurricane? A 40 grain .22LR will shift around 6" at 100 yards with a 10MPH cross wind. 3" at 25 yards for a 17HMR, please, LOL...stop lying...

​@@irishkelly654yeah I thought the same thing, I have all three 17hmr, 22lr, as well as 22mag if he was getting a 3 in drift at 25 yards I would think the wind had to be blowing pretty hard and anybody with any experience with those three rounds would know thats not the time to sight in a rifle lol.

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I would love to see same caliber different boo-lots, same plates. Just to see!!

Agreed.

They don't or ever won't compare, this XXXX tried to skew the test by shooting a hollow-point 17 against a FMJ, nice try but I call BullWinkle.

@@MrCobb-rq8iv 17 and 22mag were both JHP.

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Yeah, and not Hollow point 17 hmr like 2 other 22 cal

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Me too crazy for rimfire

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