240p@120hz CRT Tutorial

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Bahn Yuki

Bahn Yuki

3 жыл бұрын

A quick rundown on how to create a custom resolution on your PC CRT for playing games in RetroArch

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@WaffleCake
@WaffleCake 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks so much for this totorial! I'm getting into CRT's in 2022 for the first time since back in the PS2 era, and I'm emulating Twilight Princess at 3840x480p on my newly acquired Diamondtron VX1120. The picture's a bit dim because it's seen quite a lot of use I think, but my goodness does this look amazingly like I remember. (I used to be lucky enough to play my games on a Sony Trinitron back in the day)
@MrMassivemanmeat
@MrMassivemanmeat 3 жыл бұрын
found me a Dell m992 1600x1200 19in vga CRT 2 years ago on the side of the road. Happy I own it now VGA CRT's are so flexible with there outputs.
@EmperorMAR
@EmperorMAR 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I never dreamed this was possible
@ph1llyg24
@ph1llyg24 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude, I had to sell my Sony PVM 20M2MDE to help with a vet bill so having to use my PC CRT. Glad to see I can get scanines without darkening the image.
@robbystrange4772
@robbystrange4772 3 жыл бұрын
Did that with a ibm e74 a couple weekends ago. Love it.
@ghostbombl8034
@ghostbombl8034 2 жыл бұрын
You might get quick hiccups from unmatched game to monitor hertz but still get no ghosting or you still get smooth but quick glitch every second from game trying to keep up.I get glass smooth by matching all my games to 60 hertz monitor with 60 hertz games.no hiccups.full liquid frames.I prescale each games pixels to match my scanlines.i do have videos of my matched scanlines.
@juanme555
@juanme555 Жыл бұрын
Is Interlaced resolution not working on my Samsung syncmaster 997MB because i dont have anything on extension blocks in CRU??? im using direct vga connection, no adapters.
@scanlinespectre
@scanlinespectre 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway you can make a proper tutorial on how to figure out CRU settings for any monitor? I’m not understanding how one would figure out the values for front/back porch and so on.
@kameronshope6637
@kameronshope6637 2 жыл бұрын
Just use automatic crt settings
@force4973
@force4973 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. Works! Only problem I have is that the video is super sharp! Which is good lol but I just wish the graphics were low and had the phosphor glow. You know what I mean?
@HansOilaf
@HansOilaf 3 жыл бұрын
hi thx for your video it's really helping me out rigth now in setting up a crt monitor myself. i just can't get the picture to look right, would you be able to say whats wrong if you see it? would really appreciate the help edit: got it working now with 60Hz not 120Hz also tested for 640x480 but then i got a vertically doubled picture on the crt. can this be fixed with the right porches and sync values? i was surprised to get a picture at all to be honest at 480p on this crt TV (not PC monitor)
@soapyshoe
@soapyshoe 3 жыл бұрын
Long time no post!
@push_start_button_6008
@push_start_button_6008 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome. Do you need a specific pc for proper operation or is it enough, for example, a laptop with an external CRT monitor connected via vga? What retro arch version is required?
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually using a lenovo t540p with a haswell cpu and Nvidia gt 730m. I chose this setup to demonstrate even low end hardware can give you great results
@2stix686
@2stix686 Жыл бұрын
I copied everything you did and whenever I launch retro arch on my crt it displays the same as my windows home screen and It’s all stretched out to 3840
@NewDayHorror
@NewDayHorror 2 жыл бұрын
HDMI to component or HDMI to compost?
@chitan1362
@chitan1362 6 ай бұрын
If you opt to use Linux with an X11 desktop environment, you actually don't even need to set custom resolutions. Just enable the "CRT Switchres" option in the settings and it will automatically take care of it for you.
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 2 жыл бұрын
How about 480i?
@Isaac________
@Isaac________ Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to achieve this with a DP or HDMI to VGA adapter. Are you using a similar setup where the original signal is digital? If yes, what converter are you using? It seems that some adapters do not work with this kind of 240p signal.
@Isaac________
@Isaac________ Жыл бұрын
Update: It works!
@tvdetubo240p
@tvdetubo240p 4 ай бұрын
Did you get it using hdmi to vga adapter?
@Faxtron
@Faxtron 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@OnlyEpicEmber
@OnlyEpicEmber 2 жыл бұрын
Did you say it’s an Apple studio display? I thought they needed OS 8 or OS 9 and a special utility to change the resolution? And CRU don’t work?
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 2 жыл бұрын
You need os9 to change the geometry and gamma. Everything else handled by windows 10 as a generic monitor.
@Waratteta
@Waratteta Жыл бұрын
not blaming u or the program makers but after using cru and making the resolution my laptop perma bluescreened and i had 2 reinstall windows thank god it's just something on the side from my main pc
@juaquindeanda3316
@juaquindeanda3316 2 жыл бұрын
How do I set this up without a CRT and just use my laptop hooked up to my 1080p TV?
@liminal-waves
@liminal-waves 2 жыл бұрын
just connect your laptop to the tv with an hdmi cord. If you want a crt filter just look on youtube for a crt shader tutorial for retroarch
@exeacua
@exeacua 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to fdo this but in a crt tv, not a monitor. Any consideration or configuration I need to do in order for that to work?
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 2 жыл бұрын
Do what? I'm not understanding your question
@exeacua
@exeacua 2 жыл бұрын
@@BahnYuki I want to output 240p from a modern windows pc to my crt tv. I hope CRU can help me to do that.
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 2 жыл бұрын
@@exeacua windows doesn't really allow 15khz output, but you can try using crtemUdriver if you have a compatible AMD gpu. I used to do that, but Mister FPGA really makes it obsolete these days.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to do this with just windows output? I want to play Sonic Mania like this.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 жыл бұрын
If you have an nvidea card you can do this with the nvidea control panel, that’s how I’ve been doing it
@juaquindeanda3316
@juaquindeanda3316 2 жыл бұрын
@@justanotheryoutubechannel how do you set it up with just windows? I want to get this working on my 1080p TV.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@juaquindeanda3316 Running games in 240p like this to display on your 1080p TV would be very counterproductive, the 320x240 signal probably wouldn’t be accepted by your TV and if it did it would mishandle then signal at 480i and ruin the image quality, you would probably end up with a very blurry image. This technique is mostly useful for just CRT monitors
@juaquindeanda3316
@juaquindeanda3316 2 жыл бұрын
@@justanotheryoutubechannel but people have done it on HDTVs even a 4k TV and they said it looks amazing. Why wouldn't it work on my 1080p TV?
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@juaquindeanda3316 The problem here is that HDTVs need to scale the 240p resolution to 1080p (or 4K, whatever the native resolution is.) and most displays do a very blurry scale, similarly to if you set KZfaq to 240p on a HDTV. This technique is designed for CRT displays that don’t need to scale anything, they will display whatever resolution you give them that meets certain requirements. It’s usually possible to output 240p into a HDTV but some HDTVs won’t accept it over HDMI, DVI, VGA, or component video cables. There are devices that can scale 240p to a higher resolution and do a much sharper scale that will look better, but they can be expensive and are mainly useful for playing real retro consoles, running a PC emulator into a scaler then into a HDTV isn’t worth it as most emulators can scale the game to 1080p equally well when configured correctly. SNES, Genesis, and NES emulators (basically any emulator for a console before the PS1) will always run at 240p internally and then scale it, and most of them can be configured to scale it correctly, for 3D console emulation you would need to configure it to run at native resolution before scaling.
@gex581990
@gex581990 2 жыл бұрын
Mister can also do 240p@120hz
@dlads79
@dlads79 Жыл бұрын
What converter did you use? I've got the hdmi to rca adapter and this doesn't really work.. I've tried so many things. Using a Sony FV28FS20U 28"
@MadJackChurchill1312
@MadJackChurchill1312 3 жыл бұрын
Which CRT did you use for this?
@interlaced_maniac
@interlaced_maniac 2 жыл бұрын
He is using an Apple studio display
@TheManCaveYTChannel
@TheManCaveYTChannel 2 жыл бұрын
What about ps1 games that switch between 240p and 480i?
@socaranectien1933
@socaranectien1933 2 жыл бұрын
What are you asking? Interlaced resolutions might not be fully supported on newer graphics cards I believe
@solidunit
@solidunit 3 жыл бұрын
Swap chain at 2 is at least 2 frames of lag :/
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 3 жыл бұрын
You recommend 1?
@MrMassivemanmeat
@MrMassivemanmeat 3 жыл бұрын
To smooth out the image, I thought it was recommended to use black frame insertion.
@kjellrni
@kjellrni 3 жыл бұрын
Remember 2 frames of lag at 120Hz = 1 frame of lag at 60Hz
@robbystrange4772
@robbystrange4772 3 жыл бұрын
@@BahnYuki I'm going to try out 2 more but from what I've played so far yeah it is smoother than on 1. I did a blind test for input lag and I couldn't tell the difference in sexy parodious on beetle saturn with no runahead. With runahead on an emu that supports it I imagine it may help those who feel this lag. Edit: I want to emphasize that it is smoother. 1 was still good but 2 looked as smooth as my crt tv.
@brett20000000009
@brett20000000009 3 жыл бұрын
While it looks nice when everything is still I don't agree that it's the pinnacle this technique has a major downside that noone talks about. motion. 60fps games on a 120hz impulsed display (crt) causes double images in motion. which pretty much ruins the beautiful motion of a crt. The only way to counter this is by using black frame insertion which will half brightness.
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 3 жыл бұрын
Try vsync interval 2
@brett20000000009
@brett20000000009 3 жыл бұрын
​@@BahnYukiThe only thing that can cancel out the bad motion is bfi unfortunately. It doesn't matter how you slice it showing double frames is never good on impulsed displays.
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 3 жыл бұрын
@@brett20000000009 I know what you are referring to but when I put vsync interval it's pretty good
@brett20000000009
@brett20000000009 3 жыл бұрын
@@BahnYuki Sure it's fine not trying to shit on it. I just thought it was worth mentioning, I have tried both and ended up just preferring scandoubled 240p.
@BahnYuki
@BahnYuki 3 жыл бұрын
@@brett20000000009 do you have a good example of double image?
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