250 VS 350 VS 450 | Husqvarna Comparison with Lap Times - Which is Fastest?

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Vital MX

Vital MX

Жыл бұрын

We take the 2023 Husqvarna FC 250, FC 350, and FC 450 four strokes and put them head-to-head with laptimes to see which is fastest. Who won?
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@davidornelas5835
@davidornelas5835 Жыл бұрын
Please....do a combined lap time comparison. What is the total time it took to do 7 laps on each? It is easy to throwdown a heater lap but, the combined lap total is what helps determine place at the end of a race. Still waiting for someone to show that.....but, thank you again for this vid. Very interested.
@peanutjellyman
@peanutjellyman Жыл бұрын
Exactly, most ppl can hang on for one fast lap on a 450, but what about lap 5 then 10. Let's see the lap times for each lap and see what drop off there is when you start to get tired
@roddas26
@roddas26 Жыл бұрын
THIS ^^^
@hernanpatriota
@hernanpatriota 11 ай бұрын
350
@j-sammys5549
@j-sammys5549 Жыл бұрын
Good vid boys. I really wish all the OEM would start making 350's! I think for most guys including myself it's the perfect bike
@seangavingregory4367
@seangavingregory4367 Жыл бұрын
Jasom M. over at MXA was 2-3sec. laps faster at Glen Helen on the GAGAS MC 30, over the 450 and 250... Nationals should bail on the 450 and run those as 350's.
@straightnobraker4677
@straightnobraker4677 Жыл бұрын
I dont want to see Tomac on a 350
@derekwoods8199
@derekwoods8199 Жыл бұрын
@@straightnobraker4677 Exactly. The top guys are going to be faster on the 450 in the nationals.
@A-aron89
@A-aron89 Жыл бұрын
@@derekwoods8199 wouldn't be too sure about that. Cairoli won 4 mxgp titles in a row on a 350.
@tcmx712
@tcmx712 Жыл бұрын
​@@A-aron89 only because he said the early 450's were too brutal in the way they hit, once the 450's smoothed their power out he ditched the 350 for a 450 again
@keithpeterson6108
@keithpeterson6108 Жыл бұрын
​@tcmx712 So how is a 350 a bad thing then? According to you, Antonio Cairoli was beating faster 450's than today then. I'm sure you realize the GP's are FULL works bikes. Free to do ANY mods the factory desires. They can tune for any power characteristic they want. The 350 handles like a 250 & is just shy of a 450 in peak power.
@Quadz10
@Quadz10 Жыл бұрын
I try to tell every how much more enjoyable/fun/fast the 350 is… I won’t ride anything else. Glad you made this vid. Only problem now is I’m going to have a harder time finding new models available haha
@seangavingregory4367
@seangavingregory4367 Жыл бұрын
Picking up my Heritage Edition 350 tomorrow... Gods bless you all for doing this.
@josephdowney4919
@josephdowney4919 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@ryantaft1757
@ryantaft1757 Жыл бұрын
Please send this to Honda....I'd 100% buy a CRF350R!!
@ArdenBallard
@ArdenBallard Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes! Keep up this 250/350/450 comparison! Slow people, fast tracks, lap averages, race seasons… do it all.
@limpetcarre1139
@limpetcarre1139 Жыл бұрын
It would be great if Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki were to also make a 350.
@grecoconduris6716
@grecoconduris6716 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Suggestion I would like to see the new 300SX against various 4 strokes
@johndepperschmidt8984
@johndepperschmidt8984 Жыл бұрын
Lap time testing is long overdue. Thanks for doing it. Keep doing it.
@fuzzbuttles
@fuzzbuttles Жыл бұрын
Really want to see a comparison like this between the new 300 two stroke and a 350
@vitalmx
@vitalmx Жыл бұрын
We’ve got that in the works.
@eatnpooter1634
@eatnpooter1634 Жыл бұрын
Yes please 👍💯🇺🇸
@sesker15
@sesker15 Жыл бұрын
This!
@beatluginbuhl3238
@beatluginbuhl3238 Жыл бұрын
Yes would be cool, comparson with 125 /300 2t on the same Track and compare with the times from the Bikes in this Video!!!
@corydesrochers5739
@corydesrochers5739 Жыл бұрын
I think you should add in the 250sx too. So like a 2 stroke battle against the well rounded 350f 4 stroke
@anthonymoreno57
@anthonymoreno57 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a back to back comparison between a 2023 KTM/Husky 350 and a 2022 Gas Gas 350.
@henricusrealms8411
@henricusrealms8411 Жыл бұрын
1) KTM 300SX vs KTM 350SX-F vs KTM 450SX-F. 2) 250 2 stroke vs 250 4 stroke and this might be worth doing with all the brands that make 250s two or 4 stroke.
@Johnr37us
@Johnr37us Жыл бұрын
I also would like to see one against 2023 300 SX compared to the 2023 350sx
@MrKPIER
@MrKPIER Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a 250/350/450 with Pro, Vet and young up and coming riders do 3 x 15 minute motos and watch the lap times closely.
@markhurst7755
@markhurst7755 Жыл бұрын
Great video and commentary
@ybaha1995
@ybaha1995 Жыл бұрын
I rode a 450 and then a 250 and was pretty happy, but buying my Gas Gas 350 was an absolute revelation. Love the middleweight bikes!
@Duppavich
@Duppavich Жыл бұрын
That was great, well done guys 👍
@nickpolletta3570
@nickpolletta3570 Жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome to tune in and listen when I have the husky 450 23 myself I like hearing other opinions on it
@rodman233
@rodman233 Жыл бұрын
Ktm 350 vs Husky 350 vs GasGas 350 ! Most people looking into buying at 350 would love understanding the differences between these 3.
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
no one talks about how the Husky being 10 mm lower in the suspension hardware front and rear, in reality in makes the whole bike 1 inch lower, which is a big deal when guys need a lower platform. on the flip side, big or tall guys are bummed out when they get one uninformed and have issues in ruts etc.
@andrewkenningley4555
@andrewkenningley4555 Жыл бұрын
I got a 350 ktm with cone valve suspention and a vortex ECU , i race it in the open class and got the hole shot , so much power and handling, best bike ive ever had.
@ybaha1995
@ybaha1995 Жыл бұрын
I think doing an annual "mega test" like the Car and Driver Lightning Lap would be amazing. Compare everything on one day at one track and do it at the same track every year. This would provide something that is comparatively lacking in moto, which is data versus almost exclusively subjective information.
@briancastora769
@briancastora769 Жыл бұрын
Attention Yamaha: There is an market for a 350.
@Andy-co6pn
@Andy-co6pn Жыл бұрын
Tony Cairoli used to win MXGP motos on a 350. He only switched back to the 450 because he was giving up too much on the start when the competition got faster
@crush1221
@crush1221 Жыл бұрын
Cool Vid Mike - Next time can you stick a graphic up that is just a flat out time comaparison, maybe total lap and section by section?
@the_jd_delaney
@the_jd_delaney Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a 350 ktm or husky with maybe just pipe and suspension work versus a CRF/KX/YZ built 250 with hi compression piston, head work, pipe with suspension mods. Because that is where I am at, I’m a vet rider and don’t mind building up a bike. Thanks for doing these. 👊🏻
@tcmx712
@tcmx712 Жыл бұрын
I've just switched to a ktm 250 4t with the mentioned mods and I'd take it over a 350 amd the 450 I had before. I'll admit sometimes (not very often though) you have to knock it down a gear more in the corners but if you get someone who knows how to map it well you can still get the ktm to bark down low
@the_jd_delaney
@the_jd_delaney Жыл бұрын
@@tcmx712 awesome thank you for your response! I think my next bike is a 250.
@cwilson2006
@cwilson2006 Жыл бұрын
Looking really forward to a similar test on a more open Glen Helen style track. Would be really interesting to compare the newer FC and SXF to the new '23 GG MC with the previous gen motor and chassis as well. May be opening a can of worm based on the differences but especially when factoring in the 250 and 350, which lets be honest, probably really are the better choices for most vet's and weekend warriors, I think it would be an enlightening and informative video.
@Shifty_Malone
@Shifty_Malone Жыл бұрын
There's no regulation stopping a team from opting for a 350 (in the 450 class) on certain tracks. It would be nice if all manufacturers produced a 350, particularly Yamaha!
@yzwoody
@yzwoody Жыл бұрын
Really want a 23 yz450f but I have a line on a 22 fc350 with 5 hours for a great price. 5’8. 160 lb. Low b to upper c rider. Thoughts?
@robertrishel3685
@robertrishel3685 Жыл бұрын
No one ever wants to admit the 350 is generally the better compromise. I think the Nationals should go to 150cc for what used to be the 125 class and 350’s for the main class, maybe have another open class again for the big bikes….; actually, what we should do is go back to 125-250-open classes, with no handicap on the two strokes. Their (two strokes) superiority has largely been bridged by technology. No need for it anymore. I think 125 four strokes tuned to the hilt would sound pretty bitchin’….
@2oswalds
@2oswalds Жыл бұрын
On road, off road, mx, desert you dont ride a bigger engine as hard so parts seem to last longer.
@amoore2165
@amoore2165 Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to see the difference with a heavier rider. Also a bigger track and/or a sand track.
@georgecarmel6114
@georgecarmel6114 Жыл бұрын
Do the huskies corner better than the KTM's and other bikes with the 10mm shorter suspension?
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
yes. but you only want one if your light. tall or big guys still need the taller bikes to clear ruts etc.
@vintagetrikesandquads4012
@vintagetrikesandquads4012 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Will the Japanese join the 350 market or is the demand too small?
@EricCogburn
@EricCogburn Жыл бұрын
I think the 350 engine is KTM’s best selling engine. I don’t know why the Japanese don’t make a 350-seems easy from a development standpoint.
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
sadly, they wont for the same reason they never made an MX 150, 200 or 300 etc. because the race classes set the precedent.
@Runk3lsmcdougal
@Runk3lsmcdougal Жыл бұрын
Wonder what the difference would be between the lowered husq 350 and regular height ktm 350 would be in lap times
@Doc-jw4iy
@Doc-jw4iy Жыл бұрын
and gasgas
@Kawiboy
@Kawiboy Жыл бұрын
Let's do it fellas 👍 What do yall' think ? 🤔😉
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
if you read/watch all the shootouts the first two years after they lowered the Husky's, the bikes were either placed first or nearly last, due to the extremes around this topic. short guys and vets just loved it. where as other shootouts with bigger guys said it was useless and put it down the list.
@stevestiffler9120
@stevestiffler9120 Жыл бұрын
I hope you re’rack this setup at glen Helen, would love to see those lap time differences . I owned a 350sxf. I sold my 350sxf after riding an 08 Honda crf450. 350 is a Good bike but felt like it needed a tad more. If ktm scrapped the 350 and made it somewhere around 390-400cc they’d be the perfect bike in my opinion
@tylerruckdeschell
@tylerruckdeschell Жыл бұрын
Which year 350 was it? Just curious, as the past 2 generations of 350s (2019-2022, 2023-) have been night and day more powerful than the previous ones
@pags1981
@pags1981 Жыл бұрын
The first Yam 4S was a 426cc engine, interesting point you raise
@paulmarshall8774
@paulmarshall8774 Жыл бұрын
08 CRF450 had a great engine it felt a big big bike to which I liked. I currently have a 23 Ktm 350 it’s got alot more bottom to mid than the previous engined 350.
@vitalmx
@vitalmx Жыл бұрын
@@pags1981 it was actually a 400cc first.
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 Жыл бұрын
@@vitalmx I owned one, and it was a dog to ride !
@Doc-jw4iy
@Doc-jw4iy Жыл бұрын
My first time hearing about crossbox. How about a comparison review with crossbox and others
@Kawiboy
@Kawiboy Жыл бұрын
Me too 😉
@Card_Threapy
@Card_Threapy Жыл бұрын
This we’ll soon be your Supercross class coming in the years kTM already there !
@keithpeterson6108
@keithpeterson6108 Жыл бұрын
Husky 350 vs KTM 350
@Andingo86
@Andingo86 Жыл бұрын
I did a 3 sec lap time there on a 2005 yz250 2 stroke
@eatnpooter1634
@eatnpooter1634 Жыл бұрын
300sx vs 350 & maybe mix up some brands like the Honda crf250 vs 350
@jkell411
@jkell411 Жыл бұрын
I really think racing would be better at the top level, and riders at lower levels would benefit from the displacements changing to 200 and 350. I think this would help stop riders from relying on pure horsepower. I know it won't happen, but it would be cool.
@alexarmstrong1134
@alexarmstrong1134 Жыл бұрын
2-stroke vs 4-stroke 🙏🏻😎
@roosthrower
@roosthrower Жыл бұрын
This could be a new thing on a 350 for super motocross Michael Lindsay 250 450 combined, be good to see , they seem like the best bike not too fast not too slow according to this
@dnrg62
@dnrg62 Жыл бұрын
Always liked 450 s and still do but bought a 350 a while back ,they really are the goldylocks zone for someone like me = old ,bigger ,and average ability.👍
@straighttimestirrups
@straighttimestirrups Жыл бұрын
KTM250SX vs KTM300SX vs KTM350SXF two smokers and a 4-puker at Glen Helen on the National Track and the REM Track. In addition, KTM125SX vs KTM150SX vs YZ250 on the National and REM Tracks.
@crashtest603
@crashtest603 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see 350 4 stroke VS 250 2-stroke, since there similar in power
@tomcumby9045
@tomcumby9045 Жыл бұрын
mike brown deff agrees and proves it
@unnivversal
@unnivversal Жыл бұрын
I would like to see an ecu mapped 450 tamed down with more ride ability vs a 350
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
it helps, but you can never get rid of the heavier feel due to more rotating mass. remember in the old days we thought 500 2 strokes were so heavy but they were no mora than the eventual 250F. later we learned the feeling was partly from the spinning mass and gyro effect. they don't want to turn. same stuff is true with the new bikes.
@lmtada
@lmtada Жыл бұрын
Fifty Hp is all 99% of riders need.
@johnfryman4428
@johnfryman4428 Жыл бұрын
300 two stroke vs 450 on starts
@Clyney24
@Clyney24 Жыл бұрын
New video idea, Ktm vs Husky 350
@seangavingregory4367
@seangavingregory4367 Жыл бұрын
When you all going to do a faster track review? Glen Helen? LACR would be the best I think...
@paulyoung6270
@paulyoung6270 Ай бұрын
Who put the bloody music over them talking and thought yes, that's a good idea
@ericmorris1056
@ericmorris1056 Жыл бұрын
Should have done the hole line up 2 t shood be in it
@robertappelqvist7322
@robertappelqvist7322 Жыл бұрын
2stroke vs 4stroke 😃
@angieferrell4622
@angieferrell4622 Жыл бұрын
I threw a 2 tooth rear sprocket on my 2022 FC 350 for the track and it is awesome
@tomcumby9045
@tomcumby9045 Жыл бұрын
i believe a young man named Mike Brown allready proved how good the 350 is at lorretta's
@MegaStreet11
@MegaStreet11 Жыл бұрын
should have thrown the tc250 in there!
@michaelkinnear5209
@michaelkinnear5209 Жыл бұрын
300 2 stroke vs 450 4 stroke, please.
@pedrofernando176
@pedrofernando176 Жыл бұрын
🤙👍✌
@highschooljohnny
@highschooljohnny Жыл бұрын
How about a vet intermediate or a regular novice rider do the same test. A pro can ride anything fast.
@mitchell146
@mitchell146 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oc14pK1huq3Jlo0.html
@WilliamStewart1
@WilliamStewart1 Жыл бұрын
A 250 would be more confidence inspiring as it's easier to manage and doesn't beat you up nearly as much. The only benefit I can see from a 450 would be you can relax a bit making certain jumps as you don't have to ring it out or be in the perfect gear coming out of corners.
@IvarEriksson83
@IvarEriksson83 Жыл бұрын
I thought fitness was number 1 in this sport?!?!?! How can a stocky fellow be so fast?!?!??
@mrabrasive51
@mrabrasive51 Жыл бұрын
Hes not doing 35 minute motos on a national track..
@WildnFast
@WildnFast Жыл бұрын
Fitness isn’t always determined by someone who is skinny. Motocross requires that you be able to race at a heart rate of 195-200 beats per minute for 30-45 minutes and not be in an anaerobic state.
@scoremxcom
@scoremxcom Жыл бұрын
TC250 and 450SXF.
@Dreamer_988
@Dreamer_988 Жыл бұрын
test of all manufacturers 350 pls
@rat5760
@rat5760 Жыл бұрын
🤤🤤🤤
@darrellgentry9927
@darrellgentry9927 Жыл бұрын
300sx vs 350sxf
@commantrosexetlos4700
@commantrosexetlos4700 6 ай бұрын
450 are unbeatable at the moment as a buyer general purpose..not a single reason to buy a lower cc bike even if its 2stroke..450 are a do it all beast
@joshbingham5830
@joshbingham5830 5 ай бұрын
250 sx 300 sx and 350sxf
@josephdowney4919
@josephdowney4919 Жыл бұрын
Ktm 350 vs Husky 350.
@Mike-uh2gw
@Mike-uh2gw 10 ай бұрын
My 350 has the perfect amount of power to make me look like I know how to ride. The Japanese manufacturers best get on the wagon or they will be left behind.
@hencetirta7633
@hencetirta7633 Жыл бұрын
vital mx always advance
@timprice8877
@timprice8877 Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing about more power, But on paper it’s still the same 54hp for the 450, But I seen the 2024 Ktm and Husky will be 64hp which is absolutely nuts, 450 class is about to get wild asf 😅
@harrypeterson9287
@harrypeterson9287 11 ай бұрын
The 450s have been tuned for broad and useable power rather than peak HP.. The 350s are revving higher and have a narrower useable powerband. It's like how a 125 two stroke can pump out 35hp while a 500 is making 60hp, they're going for rideability after a certain point.
@gioevor
@gioevor Жыл бұрын
I can never understand the purpose of 450s.. noone can go faster with them... even the ama nationals differences between built 250s and 450s are so small... useless engines at all.... and with no racing feeling... like you ride an yami XT
@woobykal68
@woobykal68 Жыл бұрын
For a 53 year old fat guy who is out of shape and has a big beer gut and hasn't see his junk in a while the 350 is the best choice.
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