Which sound do you prefer? One is a moderately priced modern instrument at $25,000 USD and another is a Stradivarius made in 1717 priced at $6 million USD. Which violin do you prefer? #shorts
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@otherryan3 жыл бұрын
They both sound fantastic, but both are a tad out of my budget 😩😩
@timmychooi3 жыл бұрын
😂 the insurance is somewhat affordable at least
@kaiyalovescostcohotdogs31192 жыл бұрын
Am I the only who got their violin on Amazon
@opalguy2 жыл бұрын
@@kaiyalovescostcohotdogs3119 maybe...
@earlyflower8292 жыл бұрын
Just a tad
@SimplyComi2 жыл бұрын
@@kaiyalovescostcohotdogs3119 if it works then respect ✊
@justiceperhay83283 жыл бұрын
Twoset has trained me well! As soon as you started playing the second one, I knew the first one was the 6 mil violin.
@unijade2 жыл бұрын
How?
@Pikachu-wy2rq2 жыл бұрын
@@unijade the tone and sound of the first one is sweeter, which was a typical thing of Baroque violins, it also sounded mellow and it is smaller as Stradivari was known to make violin smaller than a standard 4/4. The song violin is good but a little bit too loud for my taste, it is also more sharp than sweet and it is bigger than the Strad. I am a violinist so I know how they are different and a Stradivarius is definitely worth it’s money.
@cake16722 жыл бұрын
the power of ling ling
@poornasianparapio24012 жыл бұрын
Lmao same 😂 I don’t even play an instrument
@ireisparks35982 жыл бұрын
Me too lmao. The power of Ling Ling.
@abigail403 жыл бұрын
Sheeeesh I thought the modern one had a richer sound-
@timmychooi3 жыл бұрын
In some way it does!
@jujus56143 жыл бұрын
me too
@twinicebear7753 жыл бұрын
to me the new one has a more open and bright sound while the strad is refined and more full tone with more overtones
@Batboy-oc5rz3 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s the opposite
@awheikkila3 жыл бұрын
The strad had more high end from what I could tell. Probably projects further because more overtones? Trumpet player here.
@nightblizzard31603 жыл бұрын
Ok. I’m just impressed that he can hold 6 million in his hand and not break a sweat. 👍
@linstarflight7344 Жыл бұрын
Man I was sweating holding my teacher’s 50k violin. Probably be down-pouring if I’m holding a strad
@Hollowed_Wanderer11 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure its because that isnt a 6m strad violin.
@MyTruckNuts7 ай бұрын
@@Hollowed_Wanderer😂
@nickcarroll85655 ай бұрын
When I was 15 a luthier just hand me a 100k violin to try, I was shocked he’d hand a kid something like that haha.
@KevintheScienceNerd Жыл бұрын
Honestly I spotted the Stradivarius immediately. It was the depth of the tone
@GrandTsarАй бұрын
I just notice the difference of the bottom design of the violin lol
@DJKHALED7462914 күн бұрын
well the sound is coming from your €200 earphones. Im not sure you can hear the difference lol
@gracesviolin3 жыл бұрын
Wait I liked the modern $25k one more. 😱
@timmychooi3 жыл бұрын
It’s really not bad
@Raidenofficial3 жыл бұрын
@@timmychooi yeah, for 25k I'd expect it to be perfect Edit: 25k is a lot for a violin, right? *Right?* Dear God, classical instruments are so expensive...
@kacemchawqi57873 жыл бұрын
Same, it’s more voluminous I guess
@user-lf7hp7xq8k3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo same hahaa
@davidsimmons6543 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@theMusicNotes53 ай бұрын
The brief squeak in the second one gave it away...
@GourSmith3 ай бұрын
I knew right away when I heard the first one that it was the 6 mil strad. Such a warm, smooth sound.
@jsot19883 жыл бұрын
Give that 25 grand violin some 300 years of good playing and then we'll talk. 😁 It actually sounds amazing!
@marcuspacheco3815 Жыл бұрын
Stradivarius's instruments aren't special because they're 300 years old. Although that would make anything pretty special. There's special because wood was more dense 300 years ago. I know that sounds crazy but the eruption of the island of Krakatoa stunted the growth of trees and cause a change in the grain structure. Something to do with having more rings on the tree but less space in between them. And then add to that Stradivarius was a genius that basically made modern violins the modern violin. Modern companies try to duplicate this either with synthetic material or by literally fishing old logs out of lakes to basically find old wood. So even perfectly copying a Stradivarius wouldn't quite make Stradivarius noises.
@TheSatisfiedPig5 ай бұрын
@@marcuspacheco3815 they're special because they're historical pieces. Modern violins are consistently ranked higher than Strads in blind tests. There's nothing magic about the wood or varnish or maker, the classical music world is just especially horny for tradition and pedigree.
@marcuspacheco38155 ай бұрын
@@TheSatisfiedPig while I have no doubt that there are modern violins that can match the density and sound quality of a strat, it's due to creating either a synthetic compound or finding an alternative source of very dense wood. Such as those found by hauling logs up from the bottom of lakes. Or by artificially creating denser would by pressing and essentially laminating it under heat and excessive pressure.. modern violin makers aren't stupid. They're some of the smartest violin makers that have ever lived. So of course once the science was out they have made movements toward reproducing the sound quality everyone has been chasing. You are of course correct that what makes the Stradivarius King is its Pedigree. It has the advantage of being both a historical peace and sounding comparablely amazing. Which is a difficult thing to accomplish with almost any other instrument on the planet. Of course there is some horns and such but generally speaking a 300 year old guitar does not sound as good as a new one. That kind of makes the Stradivarius really uniquely special in the string instrument world.
@angerkitten99313 жыл бұрын
So u just be having 6.25 million dollars worth of violin in your living room.
@timmychooi3 жыл бұрын
Kind of 😂
@iksooyout6129 Жыл бұрын
$6.025 mil...
@Voidi-Void Жыл бұрын
@@iksooyout6129 🤓
@godishere4 Жыл бұрын
@@timmychooican I 'pay' you a visit 😂
@RAFITAESTRADITA Жыл бұрын
Hopefully kidnappers don't watch this channel.
@ladydoom5622 Жыл бұрын
I prefer 1st one , it sounds so fine and soulful 💖✨
@WSH3TM7 ай бұрын
same
@gbvoul5 ай бұрын
yeah its way more expressive. the 2nd just stays within it's range
@TheChrisBreyShow2 ай бұрын
Your eyes gave it away, you looked at the first one with love and the second with disappointment
@nb75243 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely no expert, not even close. The difference I can hear is that the Strad’s sound is totally open, with a very clear brighter tone and excellent projection which can easily rise above an orchestra during a performance. With that said, I’m VERY impressed with the modern 25K violin. While it is not quite as clear as the Strad and is a bit nasally on the low strings, it has really wonderful projection and a very warm sweet tone; I really like it. Being that it is a new 25k violin against a grand Strad, I think it held up very well. The modern violin maker has serious skills, who is it? The modern violin is still new and will open up more (slight nasal tone will disappear) over time as it is played. I wouldn’t hesitate for a moment to purchase it. Tim you’re a fantastic Violinist and you did justice to both violins, thanks for this video😀
@timmychooi3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Incredible observation. Thank you so much for sharing with me your thoughts! Well, if you want to know please message me on Instagram.
@nb75243 жыл бұрын
@@timmychooi thanks!🙂
@phantomsinthemist2 жыл бұрын
"No expert" *Proceeds to be an expert*
@OysterTran3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the second one. I think i sounds somehow warmer.
@AutumnElaine2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning, huh?! Toward the end I was like.. the high tones sound shrill to me. But they are very clear!
@ilsospetto46082 ай бұрын
Strads will always have that powerful and bright voice.
@loshisad38893 жыл бұрын
The second one sounds more refine and it’s richer in sound
@carolwilliams5337 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@ccliviolin11 ай бұрын
@@carolwilliams5337guess people cant have opinions nowadays
@adifferentangle70646 ай бұрын
@@ccliviolin For me the differences are clearly defined. It is literally my job to make violins sound like the first one, not the second. So I know what the difference is even though only part of it shows through the recording. The second does actually have a deeper tone, mostly due to the model of the instrument. If he had a model based off the same mold pattern as the Strad the tone wouldn't be so obviously contrasted. However there is a hollowness and lack of projection which might seem subtle or not even audible to the average listener in the new violin. This is often explained away as "the violin needs to settle" or some BS, but it is honestly more to do with wood choice and thickness, and varnish choice. If you had both for two weeks you would slowly find yourself wanting to play the Strad more as it draws you in with its complex character, where the new make will be good to play at first but that is where the character begins and ends.
@ccliviolin6 ай бұрын
@@adifferentangle7064 modern day violinists who have strads (ray chen, richard lin, etc) perform on zygmuntowicz violins despite having strads.
@nickcarroll85655 ай бұрын
@@adifferentangle7064the difference between the g strings was what struck me right away. And yes, I agree the second has a more hollow sound.
@redcarnation13413 жыл бұрын
The modern one had a more warm and juicy sound
@cristianjuarez1086 Жыл бұрын
Yes it sounds warm and beautiful
@jamescairns51510 ай бұрын
in the lower registers maybe, but the high notes sing on the first one
@LeroyAkanno-mb6jw9 ай бұрын
Yes
@brainoutanswers7890 Жыл бұрын
As a violin player, i could tell straight away the first was $6 mil
@zoldyck44619 ай бұрын
Do you know the name of the song he played in the first voilin?
@CL72345Ай бұрын
@@zoldyck4461 Tchaikovsky violin concerto
@mikeydoodle1436 күн бұрын
But i prefer #2 when i first heard it😂
@musiclessons4u7252 жыл бұрын
In case you didn’t hear, the second one had a slight screech to it when he played the high notes. Also, the first one had a VERY crisp and clear sound with BEAUTIFUL transitions, while the second one was more soft and modern
@degou34387 ай бұрын
In fact, the Stradvarius had a richer, sweeter and more pleasant sound, it has more soul
@shravan73123 ай бұрын
Piano: I’m the most expensive instrument 😎 Violin: allow me to introduce myself…
@timschuit20573 жыл бұрын
Imagine winning the lottery and spending 6 million dollars on a violin...
@DanteHanma3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely do that. Definitely
@vetzrah44373 жыл бұрын
Same
@samdajellybeenie143 жыл бұрын
Most of these violins are well out of financial reach of most soloists, so businesspeople or orgs like Nippon Foundation usually buy them and loan them out for decades. Pretty cool.
@10stephenrose3 жыл бұрын
The dream.
@liamnevilleviolist18093 жыл бұрын
Also, the mic isn't picking up everything. Please place the microphone in the middle row of a concert hall of your choosing, and with a full orchestra behind you ;)
@chrisma32562 жыл бұрын
I was thinking I don't think the recording does them justice. Would love to hear that in person in a concert hall or church
@liamnevilleviolist18092 жыл бұрын
@@chrisma3256 Spot on. You can have a beautiful and "loud" violin that sounds great in a cafe.... or you can have a metallic and "soft-sounding" violin that in fact fills a concert hall... Microphones don't capture the best of the instruments. Even on my channel: I play the same viola in my home study room and also my university's auditorium... and the sound is totally different!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qOBmkql-qMfUmWg.html
@belmon382 ай бұрын
Exactly what they did in the París blind test, with soloist picking up the modern above the strads.
@holgerdanske23763 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the $25.000 violin! I have listened several times to be sure of my judgement... It has a very beautifull sound on the G string... However $25.000 is not a cheap violin! When you buy a Strad you also buy a myth, a signature...
@norman783 Жыл бұрын
Cheapest no brand in my country cost 25$ cheapest branded in my country is 120$
@flav26899 ай бұрын
@@norman783 Well that is not a violin. It’s a wooden box.
@norman7839 ай бұрын
@@flav2689 if my violin is a small box then ur house is a big box. There's nothing wrong with it
@flav26899 ай бұрын
@@norman783 Sure. But I think you missed my point. I’m a violinist myself and even as an amateur (advanced and determined but still) and my violin is about 6000€. All the professionals I know nearby have an instrument worth of 10 000-30 000 €. Not to mention the famous ones. I’m not saying that you cannot have a nice violin with less - I’ve heard pretty good ones at 1500-2000€. But 150€? I severely doubt that the quality of a violin that cheap can be good or have even a mediocre sound. Because even though the material can be the same than in wooden boxes, it’s a whole different story with string instruments. It’s one hell of a job. And even the valid ”factory made” violins cost a few hundred. So 150€ just sounds suspicious to me. That’s all 😁
@norman7839 ай бұрын
@@flav2689 i know but why are being rude telling me I just have a box and flexing your fancy violin, should I need a hundreds of money to not call my violin a wooden box? Also im from asia so im using a begginer violin I cant afford real violin, i cant find real violin in my country also shipping is expensive my country only likes common band instruments like guitar, drums, etc. Also singing but I influenced myself to things that is outside my country I cant just take it I love piano and violin and also lovez jazz, classical musics and lil bit rock. I dont care of you flexing your fancy violin what I find disrespect here is that you havent even apologized (sorry for bad english and humor im not being offensive on my previous replies)
@Zelda01Fan6 ай бұрын
I knew the second you played the first one ❤ there’s something about the smoothness of that sound, that is resounding yet full, it doesn’t feel empty for even a second
@jonhh69183 жыл бұрын
I like the sweet, mellow and singing tone of the first one. I like the focus, depth and clarity of the second one. Great playing Timothy !
@Revansstuntdouble3 жыл бұрын
This is why I play guitar. The most dear guitars don't come close to the price of an intermediate classical instrument.
@cristianeric59333 жыл бұрын
Well, add some Steve Vai's blood to the paint and you still have enough for a car with a 25k budget
@Revansstuntdouble3 жыл бұрын
@@cristianeric5933 yeah, no joke.
@lopesemanuel4 ай бұрын
At first I already knew its value, it shows the quality of the 6 million
@fallencourt52155 ай бұрын
Wow there is genuinely a difference, the first one was a different sound from the second
@kaunas8882 жыл бұрын
The first is clearly better, smoother and sweeter.
@liamnevilleviolist18093 жыл бұрын
Can I please ask, is the second one made by Widehouse? He has a very close style to that of Strad/Guarneri: having depth of sonority almost straight away!!! The same can be said of Zygmuntowicz. I preferred the second, even after you telling me the first was the antique. I am a violin/viola dealer, analyser, player and luthier. Sometimes the older "masters" made only decent violins whereas modern luthiers give it their all to match the *best* of masters from years gone by...
@blitzr86162 жыл бұрын
It can't be Widenhouse. He charges more. Plus, he said his next two violins are going to players in the Atlanta symphony orchestra.
@liamnevilleviolist18092 жыл бұрын
@@blitzr8616 He charges 'around' $22k . He might sell three violins at $19k each to one customer, he might sell ONE violin that came out great for $29k to another customer. His average is $22k. It could easily be a Widenhouse. I'm in the luthier market, so I DO know a little bit about pricing all over the world... Have a good day.
@lueci79163 жыл бұрын
The first one is the one I picked because from dancing classical ballet for so many years when you played the first one, it gave me chills ❤
@nicochan61672 жыл бұрын
My 40 dollar violin 👁️👄👁️💧
@joshuamartin64573 жыл бұрын
Its actually my first time seing a left handed violinist
@shrankai72853 жыл бұрын
Might be a reflected video.
@ianhuangncubed Жыл бұрын
Def reflected, no one is making left handed violins
@HaileyHart-kh9jx5 ай бұрын
@@ianhuangncubed I'm a left-handed violinist, but I play just like right-handed people do because of that. it's quite sad, because I'm sure I could play better with my dominant hand.
@rie.k3 жыл бұрын
Whichever violins you play, your violin sound is the most favorite of mine always.😉💖
@MusicConnoisseurian6 ай бұрын
Definitely #1. Glad to find out it was the Stradivarius
@user-cm7sl9kw1k8 ай бұрын
The strad sounds amazing
@arktos30953 жыл бұрын
This Sounds like A violin to me.
@SalamanderMagic3 жыл бұрын
*me feeling like a god for getting it correct although it was literally a 50/50 chance*
@mirceacioca68669 ай бұрын
The first of course but both sound fantastic
@dasandbox2555 Жыл бұрын
The 1st. I know absolutely nothing about violin but the first hit that high note effortlessly. Both are wonderful and I could not afford either one.😢
@lvb_op.613 жыл бұрын
Second. Whos the maker?
@TwinsTry3 жыл бұрын
Wait even as a non expert, I can actually hear the diff this time?! :O
@bilalpunjabi40222 жыл бұрын
Your playing what made know the first is strad , they both sound amazing 👍🏼
@brittanyneiswinger3561 Жыл бұрын
ha I was right. the second was gritty sounding while the other was super smooth and dainty sounding.
@AlexRiversMusic3 жыл бұрын
The Strad sounds much better. I knew it when I heard it.
@suckensteincumsalotmilfimu32793 жыл бұрын
I swear to god that's the piece that every violinist use when testing out a new instrument, I'm hearing it too much. The expensive one have deeper and richer tones, probably Stradivarius
@bawang34523 жыл бұрын
At least it made Tchaikovsky happy lol
@suckensteincumsalotmilfimu32793 жыл бұрын
@@bawang3452 bro it's annoying, even twoset use this piece now and then in their videos
@sceu253 жыл бұрын
@@suckensteincumsalotmilfimu3279 I’ve just gotten bored of TwoSet. They’ve gotten kinda… Toxic, I guess.
@cwstars3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right
@iamrosalindabb74083 жыл бұрын
Wait what's the name of the piece?
@HaydenCarter-jh5wp8 ай бұрын
You can always tell that the more expensive or nicer violins sound more full and smooth.
@Bogdan_ragovic18 күн бұрын
Its cool that wood and strings arranged in different ways can be 0.01 or 6.25m
@isabelcortes1438 Жыл бұрын
The sound from the 1st one is so rich , deep and soulful. You can tell it has a lot to say. ❤️❤️❤️
@cpagoals3 жыл бұрын
Obviously they are both amazing, honestly I think I prefer the $25k modern instrument's sound, especially because it sounds so good even compared to an instrument that costs 5,975,000 more lol 😂
@Misyeli3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the first one, sounds richer.
@razbender13793 жыл бұрын
Both sound great, but the first one was much warmer
@christinabouey3 жыл бұрын
1st one of course! 😉
@timmychooi3 жыл бұрын
Totally right?
@patton3037 ай бұрын
I got it right. I could hear that the Strad was warmer. The 25k sounds great but it’s just a little more brittle in the higher octaves where the Strad retained the warmth all the way through the phrase.
@Lexicoley18262 ай бұрын
IDK but as soon as you started playing the 2nd one, my cat jumped down from his perch, meowed at me and then jumped in my lap. 🤷♀️
@jackofalltrades2175 Жыл бұрын
The second one was so rich and bright I actually preferred the 2 one
@MrLandaleАй бұрын
I guessed right. The first has a bigger sound, the second has a "hollow" sound.
@crowntotheundergroud6 ай бұрын
The first one sounded fucking amazing. That was actually one of the best tones ive ever heard.
@L3GHO5T Жыл бұрын
The first sound so much more Radiant. It’s hard to describe as I know absolutely nothing about music or instruments but when you go into the higher notes they almost come to life compared to the second. I listened about 15 times and I assume you’ve played the same thing. Though I listen to mostly rock music the violin has always completely fascinated me. Thanks for sharing!
@user-tz1zv1ng5g10 ай бұрын
The older ones always have a rougher and fuller sound and the more modern ones have a more silky and hollower sound
@Ariber17 ай бұрын
Need to hear them in the hall. Up close they're both great.
@arcaakvira9 ай бұрын
I think it was very obvious since the first one sounds more seamless and smooth like yk
@Darestrings Жыл бұрын
They both sound amazingly GOOD... But I think the second one has a more unique tone
@bragastraat228811 күн бұрын
If the title did not mention the price, I honestly believe nobody could have guessed the difference
@DrJoeyBean2 ай бұрын
I initially thought the second one was the strad. The fist one does sound cleaner, but the second one more rich and woody, warmer sounding, and very clean and precise when you play it. Some of the issue is my relatively cheap speakers.
@AdamFerrari64 Жыл бұрын
I honestly liked the 1st one more before I knew which was which… the sound gets better with age
@Anything_Equine6 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how your can play a 6 million dollar violin and not be terrified to accidentally break it pure talent also I love your vidss
@clementnade9722 ай бұрын
1st one sounds very clean
@netritos7105 Жыл бұрын
The G string in the modern one sounds so strong
@SirAdiv3 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how much your instrument cost...what matters is the practice and dedication you put on it and treating it with respect so much so that dropping it would also make your heart drop
@jonella92622 жыл бұрын
Lovin that Tchaikovsky lol
@yangshen1412 Жыл бұрын
The first one can sing by itself.
@ericbernardi8116Ай бұрын
I still prefer the 25k... It sounds warmer 😊 Who ever built it knows his business!
@pipermoonshine Жыл бұрын
No I could not tell the difference at all. When you have a maker making a violin for $25, 000 and it sounds as sweet and as beautiful as the old beauty herself that is really saying something.
@user-rb8lk1fy8l7 ай бұрын
The first one sounds amazing ❤❤
@topb30Ай бұрын
Corporate wants you to find the difference:
@latemporis54308 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about violin, but immediately recognized the first one is more expensive
@LuvLight44 Жыл бұрын
I can DEFINITELY tell the difference the first one sounds very heavy soul touching They both sound amazing though
@Shmegi29 күн бұрын
The first one sounds really good
@jennyjansen7542 ай бұрын
My phone can't tell the difference.
@Winter.555511 ай бұрын
$6 million Stradivari is the best but is very expensive
@PepperWilliams_songcovers8 ай бұрын
Sonny Stitt (great jazz saxophonist) said that “it’s not the instrument, but the musician that makes it sound great”. He could play a sax bought at Walmart and it would sound fantastic!
@AnnaZoffoli2 ай бұрын
i prefer the second one
@nicklerick4 ай бұрын
on my fist watch, the second one, for lack of a better word, was like "smoother" like a smooth coin. I might be insane
@marciahoward5353 жыл бұрын
You make them both sound magical! You are so wonderful!
@tiffanyalexandria303Ай бұрын
The first one, OMG! Its Sings 😩💜💜💜
@RizwanJaganiViolist4 ай бұрын
I knew number two was modern because it had a slightly edgier sound. I love both and wouldn’t complain if I had to play either one.
@starboy79293 Жыл бұрын
i honestly liked the second one better, the deeper, richer sound just hypnotised me
@marymcgrath7744 Жыл бұрын
The first one. The tone was really rich and clear. They both sounded really good, however.
@BLUE1spring2 ай бұрын
Second one was kind of harsher...but the first was softer.
@SuperLamarrio64DS2 ай бұрын
I listened to both for a good while, playing one then going back to the other. I thought the first one sounded more pure and undiluted - it was very subtle though in my opinion :)
@Pizzacheese108 ай бұрын
Ah yes, I can totally hear the difference out of my phone speaker 😂
@shawndejong66996 ай бұрын
The Stradivarius seemed to have a sharper more distinct tone, the second seemed warmer and more mellowed out.
@gazerjohnson1808 Жыл бұрын
The 1st is so beautiful
@flyingduck879 ай бұрын
The first one sounds fuller amd the second one sounds brighter
@yasinfatihah92835 ай бұрын
I think the second had a warmer tone and sounded slightly fuller
@austencox53882 ай бұрын
The new one was louder and still sounded great but the strad had literally no crunchy sounds at all it was so cool
@mistermonstr6998 күн бұрын
Me, who can't tell the difference and doesn't want to scratch either of them so I won't have to sell my still living body to science
@gunanebare7173 Жыл бұрын
First one is super beautiful
@pamhernandez6565 Жыл бұрын
I can never hear a difference when listening through a phone, computer etc. But the differences are like night and day in person.