CALLAWAY PARADYM AI SMOKE IRONS | The Swing Report

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@traviseckard5250
@traviseckard5250 5 ай бұрын
I tried them out and the smoke max hl it is no joke it was dropping dimes and definitely feels better then the standard
@jordanboteler8978
@jordanboteler8978 6 ай бұрын
Those are some great looking irons
@paulmcgee1867
@paulmcgee1867 3 ай бұрын
Thinking of getting the Max Fast, they look great
@srmarketto
@srmarketto 3 ай бұрын
Just got fitted and these were the best performing irons for me, ordered em up, cant wait to get them.
@11BCampbell11
@11BCampbell11 2 ай бұрын
Normal or HL?
@srmarketto
@srmarketto 2 ай бұрын
@@11BCampbell11 normal
@MoneyHungryPicker
@MoneyHungryPicker 4 ай бұрын
Went and got fitted for new clubs today and it came down between the AI Smoke irons and Mizuno. I went with the Callaway because it went further and felt the best! Can’t wait for them to come in! Also grabbed the Smoke driver and 3 wood
@11BCampbell11
@11BCampbell11 2 ай бұрын
Did they fit u for 3 wood or do they go off of ur driver fittinf
@swisstrader
@swisstrader 4 ай бұрын
Played this weekend and didnt have my own clubs so they gave me a rental set of Smoke Irons. I was absolutely not in the market for a new set of irons with having just bought a new set of Ping 525’s but these things blew me away on feel and distance. Reaching out to my pro shop to see cost, etc
@bosse1998
@bosse1998 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@swisstrader
@swisstrader 4 ай бұрын
Also much more reasonably priced than many other iron sets out there
@home4ya
@home4ya 6 ай бұрын
good to see you at scottsdale store last week, love to see a "HL" battle between this and my 923 HM-HL? wish they'd just improve my fav x-16s, can you hit a few 1" fat for us hackers? ;0)
@chrisengland1
@chrisengland1 12 күн бұрын
Be great too see compared to last years non X and X models
@wkndwarrior4733
@wkndwarrior4733 6 ай бұрын
If you go back to the Rogue St pro. It was such a different design with a great look. I always thought Callaway was testing a change with that iron. A very underrated iron. But it was too small for the masses, even smaller that apex 21. I see the same look in this standard model with the high chrome and shaping, but these are bigger.
@paulmcgee1867
@paulmcgee1867 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant looking and v small you make a great point
@Jaser8008
@Jaser8008 26 күн бұрын
I just got a custom set of AI Smoke originals, they are almost identical to my Rogue ST Pros. I got mine 1Degree weak and had to decide to keep them all long or shorten to normal, so I decided -.25 of in. I am an 11 handicap, use to be a 4.5, but don’t play as much and that’s mainly due to driver issues. These are compact, I don’t understand how anyone can say they aren’t: they have less offset than almost all Players distance clubs, even if you compare 7 to 8 iron T200s still have more offset. Perfect for 5-15 handicap
@2ndswing
@2ndswing 23 күн бұрын
Awesome feedback, glad you found something that works!
@jy_vision2804
@jy_vision2804 Ай бұрын
Hi, From forgiveness perspective do you recommend AI smoke or Great Big Bertha. Couple website ranked GBB as the most forgiving Callaway irons. Also price is not an issue.
@richardpietrafesa7972
@richardpietrafesa7972 3 ай бұрын
my m2 are 7 years old now , went to see my fitter and tried a couple of irons out , when i hit these irons i gained 15 - 20 yards and a tighter grouping with a faster ball speed ....
@61albee
@61albee 6 ай бұрын
That first paragraph in the description..., how does this "smart face" iteration different from the previous model over than different marketing jargon?
@purpleturd4203
@purpleturd4203 6 ай бұрын
HL model makes sense 30 degrees is as low as a 7 iron loft should get glad there are options
@justinstephenson9360
@justinstephenson9360 6 ай бұрын
These are not clubs designed for me but could suit my playing partner. Back of the club is a bit too busy for me, not as bad as some of the irons of the past - yes Cobra I am thinking of your irons where the back of the club was a glorified advertising billboard. Overall not a bad looking club, although there haven't been any really bad looking clubs since the Taylor Made MGCB which I considered to be eye wateringly ugly. Spin rates are a bit low for my taste but I suspect for the golfers these are aimed at their longest iron should be a 6i. Would be interesting to see someone with a slowish swing speed trying the HL and Fast models to see the differences
@2ndswing
@2ndswing 6 ай бұрын
Good feedback, and we'll definitely do more testing in the near future with these. Our main takeaway was the performance retention on Kevin's low-face strikes...seemed much better than past game-improvement irons
@georgemazuran3413
@georgemazuran3413 6 ай бұрын
Wow good ole Kevin looks like good tour player
@tommavrikes3203
@tommavrikes3203 6 ай бұрын
what are the stock shafts in each?
@Golf_Hack
@Golf_Hack 6 ай бұрын
These are the kinda clubs that I hope keep improving for when I am 70 years old. As of now, I dread the day I might need these.
@liv_may_younger
@liv_may_younger 5 ай бұрын
I’m 63yrs play off 8 - just been fitted for these coming from mixing blades. Take your ego out and get something that is easier more fun and consistent…..
@liv_may_younger
@liv_may_younger 5 ай бұрын
Just been fitted for the HL model. I’m an 8 h’cap and used to blades without a launch or distance issue. These just make the game easier (save me practicing twice a week too!) and are sooooo consistent. Folks need to take out their EGOS and this nonsense term ‘game improvement’ which is an utter misnomer……..I hit these further, higher and more consistently with no huge feel difference to my mizunos.
@robertromero4477
@robertromero4477 6 ай бұрын
How are these vs stealth HD irons?
@golfingmatt82
@golfingmatt82 6 ай бұрын
is an ai smoke pro iron coming? Replacement for rogue st pro?
@davidmeeks7449
@davidmeeks7449 6 ай бұрын
Standard loft specs are just a starting point. Can bend these 2 degrees weak if you need more spin. A lot of players won’t - these fly high and land on a steep angle. Indoor testing always shows lower spin because it is off a mat surface.
@hcharton5722
@hcharton5722 14 күн бұрын
How would weaker lofts increase spin?
@davidmeeks7449
@davidmeeks7449 11 күн бұрын
Law of physics. Weaken lofts to add spin, strengthen lofts to reduce spin. A wedge spins more than a 7 iron due to having more loft.
@hcharton5722
@hcharton5722 10 күн бұрын
@@davidmeeks7449 thank you, weaker loft means more loft.
@kimbramsen1100
@kimbramsen1100 4 ай бұрын
Question, which do you like better last year’s paradigms or these AI smokes in the standards thank you
@2ndswing
@2ndswing 4 ай бұрын
Good question and thanks for watching. We really like the new AI Smart Face technology in all the AI Smoke clubs. Mishits just perform much better. With that said, the original Paradym model is really solid too for a little lower price. To me, it depends on your budget. If you are willing to spend a little extra for a custom set of AI Smoke irons, it's worth it. - Drew
@jbiz447
@jbiz447 3 ай бұрын
What’s the steel used on the face?
@davezalinko1354
@davezalinko1354 6 ай бұрын
I got fitted for the “old” Paradyms a month ago should have them in a wk. Now they come out with these. Be nice to see the difference between the two. Oh well I’m happy with what I ordered … great irons. Played Mizuno 223 Pro prior.
@johnnyrotten5905
@johnnyrotten5905 6 ай бұрын
Interesting that you went from the 223's to the Paradym. I hit the 225's and can't imagine any irons being smoother than Mizuno.
@davezalinko1354
@davezalinko1354 6 ай бұрын
Mizunos are super nice, feel like knife going through butter. Just wasn’t happy with my performance with them. I’m 55 and need something with more distance. The Paradyms gave me this. On average 15 more yards. If I was getting same numbers with the 223s I would have kept them. Try them out for fun. We all swing different.
@davidmeeks7449
@davidmeeks7449 6 ай бұрын
Gotta say I had the 225’s and then the standard Paradym and I thought the Paradyms had them beat. Very powerful irons that feel great. They do not take a back seat in feel to the Mizuno hollow headed models. The Callaway microspheres do a great job. Super forgiving on thin hits, much more so than the 225.
@TheKeinan96
@TheKeinan96 6 ай бұрын
@davezalinko1354 you can always send them back to Callaway and order the Smoke. Right now the Smoke are like $30 cheaper per iron.
@davezalinko1354
@davezalinko1354 6 ай бұрын
Yes I can do that. I may go hit all the new ones and see how the compare to the Paradyms. I really liked the feel of the Paradyms. Reason why smoke is cheaper they are cast , over forged for Paradyms.
@jbiz447
@jbiz447 3 ай бұрын
I’d like you to do a comparison with the Paradym irons.
@daengdhamiry3650
@daengdhamiry3650 3 күн бұрын
Having same dilemma
@rlbjr
@rlbjr 6 ай бұрын
How about a comparison between the Callaway AI Smoke HL vs the Mizuno Hot Metal HL vs the Taylor Made Stealth HD? These will suit the average swing speed golfer.
@2ndswing
@2ndswing 6 ай бұрын
Great idea!! Adding it to the list
@waynepadley1337
@waynepadley1337 6 ай бұрын
Nice one boys are these irons forged faced or cast 😊
@paulmcgee1867
@paulmcgee1867 3 ай бұрын
Cast
@superfly1187
@superfly1187 6 ай бұрын
HL is 2 degrees softer in loft though so can't compare distance.
@YoYoZamolo
@YoYoZamolo 6 ай бұрын
Is 41-42 deg landing angle with 4.5k spin, enough to stop on a standard green?
@kimbramsen1100
@kimbramsen1100 6 ай бұрын
Are the faces of these clubs forged? Thank you.
@LITTLEBRAT775081
@LITTLEBRAT775081 2 ай бұрын
cast
@stevedietrich8936
@stevedietrich8936 6 ай бұрын
That regular smoke isn't going to work for a lot of guys. This tester is a lot faster than the majority of golfers and still couldn't generate a good level of spin, or a good landing angle. The HL fits the average guy a lot better.
@ra1der5
@ra1der5 3 ай бұрын
Not sure I like what Callaway is doing with the Paradym AI Smoke series. Callaway used to just have the Paradym for Players Distance and Paradym X for Game Improvement. At 0:40, this vid shows us three models of AI Smoke, then he says there’s two models. There are actually FOUR; Paradym AI Smoke, AI Smoke HL, AI Smoke Max, and AI Smoke Max Fast. I guess he’s confused too. Along with Paradym X, Callaway actually has FIVE game improvement irons! We only have so much time with a fitter and we should walk in with some idea of what clubs we’re interested in. Isn’t the Paradym AI Smoke series spread a little thin to make a real difference?
@hcharton5722
@hcharton5722 14 күн бұрын
Are they forged?
@billstrang8770
@billstrang8770 4 ай бұрын
Can u add +2 to -2 lies on both of these
@ryanj1262
@ryanj1262 6 ай бұрын
I guess If golf is growing at the rate it is, then the money is in clubs for "new to the game" players ?
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 6 ай бұрын
They seem like rebrand from last year with just color change. Not much change from Previous Irons.
@11BCampbell11
@11BCampbell11 2 ай бұрын
Bro I’ve done so much research on these and you are so wrong they are much better and totally different
@jbiz447
@jbiz447 3 ай бұрын
Compare Ai Smoke with Paradym irons and woods…
@jbiz447
@jbiz447 3 ай бұрын
You should’ve used the same shafts…
@gregwayne6785
@gregwayne6785 28 күн бұрын
I guess I actually should see these in person before commenting, but I can’t get over the graphics on Cally products. Cheap looking graphics, reminiscent of stuff you would expect to find on the shelves of Walmart. Huge negative for me.
@JDSFLA
@JDSFLA 6 ай бұрын
Where is Thomas?
@cameronloveless1751
@cameronloveless1751 6 ай бұрын
The loft-jacking continues! A 28 degree 7 iron isn’t a 7 iron. It just isn’t. You can only hit it high enough with a steep enough descent angle if you have high swing speed. And if you have high swing speed you don’t need a 28 degree 7 iron that goes almost 200 yards. You’d need 5 wedges! Bonkers
@2ndswing
@2ndswing 6 ай бұрын
It's true, iron lofts are getting much stronger! But as noted in the video, there are lots of players that benefit from it. Our fitters see a ton of golfers with above-average swing speeds that have steep attack angles and an out-to-in path (lots of former baseball players who have picked up golf). Most of the time, these golfers benefit from strong iron lofts. Is this best for everyone? Absolutely not. and to your point, if the 7-iron is going 200 yards, we probably won't recommend that set!
@davidjean5981
@davidjean5981 6 ай бұрын
"GET OFF MY LAWN"😂😂😂 You don't like it don't buy it...
@paulmcgee1867
@paulmcgee1867 6 ай бұрын
HL is 30° so there’s some choice. So many commentators looking for 42° 7 iron from the 50’s 😂
@mfelep
@mfelep 6 ай бұрын
One less long iron and one more wedge. It’s all about gapping who cares what the number is.
@zazhou
@zazhou 6 ай бұрын
Specialist wedge companies are smiling bigly!
@BadAceGolf
@BadAceGolf 6 ай бұрын
My God, zero chance you get that 7i to stop on a green! Had on average for the standard model like 13 yards of run! The "HL" 10 yards of run. Gonna have a bunch of 30- 35 foot Putts or get used to a bunch of chips.
@liv_may_younger
@liv_may_younger 5 ай бұрын
Nonsense.
@ross6733
@ross6733 2 ай бұрын
Hey fellas, that was the funniest test of ai smoke irons I ever saw, when 5" tal midget with a flat swing says the ball flight is too low and low spin, I've been playing these irons for a month, Im 5 11" and Im hitting it higher than 46 and spin rate is 5600 for 7 iron , and I don't work for Callaway, that guy does need a super impruvment irons to get the ball up in the air, lol
@2ndswing
@2ndswing 2 ай бұрын
Lol, thanks for watching! Kevin is a superb player and has no problem getting his irons in the air I assure you. If these irons work for you, that's awesome! You probably generate more spin than him due to either swing speed, attack angle, or both. Kevin's swing lends itself to lower spin rates, hence why he plays higher lofted irons than the Paradym Ai Smoke.
@jwilder2251
@jwilder2251 Ай бұрын
The guy in the video just shot -4 to win the Maryland Senior Open. But maybe you can write some more nonsense run-on sentences about how great you are Ross
@CKGolfer
@CKGolfer 6 ай бұрын
the back of it looks like a cheesy dashboard from a 1980 american car
@aggiechase37
@aggiechase37 6 ай бұрын
28 degrees in a 7 is out of control
@stymie777
@stymie777 5 ай бұрын
Hit the dam ball
@Straight_Facts1
@Straight_Facts1 6 ай бұрын
Old guy can swing but needs to fire his barber.
@paulmcgee1867
@paulmcgee1867 3 ай бұрын
In twenty years you will realise that he’s not old
@philipcrow3806
@philipcrow3806 6 ай бұрын
Just start putting loft numbers on clubs at this point, like wedges. Getting ridiculous.
@liv_may_younger
@liv_may_younger 5 ай бұрын
“GAME IMPROVEMENT “ aaaaaagggghhh!!!! Rubbish. These are for EVERY hcap who wants to play better golf without the need for hours of boring practice.
@swisstrader
@swisstrader 4 ай бұрын
Very true
@jesusortiz9100
@jesusortiz9100 6 ай бұрын
All of the major known brands are always coming up with new gimmicks because they need to over charge us the average golfers in order to fill the pockets of their signed pros. I was always falling into the same trap and just got fed up. I'm currently waiting for my set of Takomo irons which provided me with a beautiful set of new clubs (4-p) for less $500 US.
@Dfjuzvh1453
@Dfjuzvh1453 6 ай бұрын
Still expensive for Asian OEM…
@swisstrader
@swisstrader 4 ай бұрын
These are actually some of the least expensive irons out there
@rsilva1975
@rsilva1975 21 күн бұрын
Way too much yakking! Just hit the ball already!
@colecole4774
@colecole4774 6 ай бұрын
Design gives me “flashy Walmart” vibes… maybe it’s just the blue. Idk
@jaybrune7937
@jaybrune7937 6 ай бұрын
Junk irons
@liv_may_younger
@liv_may_younger 5 ай бұрын
Explain that stupid comment?
@robertsandidge441
@robertsandidge441 6 ай бұрын
God way to much writing on the back. In my opinion simple and clean is beautiful that’s to busy.
@swisstrader
@swisstrader 4 ай бұрын
But you never see that stuff at address!!
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