Man I hope they change the design of the Tigerstrike. It still has the shrouding from when it was made for the Avenger series.

The new combat system wants you to use lasers to drop shields and then ballistics to drop hull. It's why most ships come with mixed guns.

They added hit points to all ships (I think 1000 hp) to simulate armor for the time being. This will change with armor and Maelstrom. They surely dont want TTK to be that long. But this allows them to get the data they need on the weapons because they can test actual live DPS over a period of time during engagements. This will give them good data to work from.

In addition to nerfing the ballistic weapons by about 7% damage, they also suffered a dramatic reduction in their total firing capacity from 25% to 30%, almost making these weapons unviable for combats against more than 2 enemies, so just like the multicrew ships, the ballistics, especially the gattlings, were almost killed with the Master Mode. This combat mode values the ones that has a set of dedicated controls like hotas etc. and penalizes the ones that uses keyboard and mouse much more than the previous mode.if this mode is maintained, all ships above interceptors will need much much, much, much more attention in their balance, in a test we did with a mantis and a buccaner we easily shot down an A2 and an ares Aion, which were together, soon after using again a mantis and a bucaneer in a 32 min combat we intercepted and shot down an HH that only had 2 manned turrets. an interceptor destroying an HH alone in my opinion is unacceptable. As a player who likes combats, I am saddened by what has been done here, limiting to a tiny portion of the existing ships those that have a chance of victory, and frustrating players who expected a game in which they could have fun with friends on the SAME ship(at least in pvp), now have to go out in packs in separate ships because in a single ship only if they find more than one smaller enemy the defeat is certain. I sincerely hope that they dedicate themselves a lot to balance the ships or return with the decision to add the master mode. sorry the long test and is just my opinion

Cheers FoxyLoxy, nice video o7

I think the C-788 does an AOE detonation, damaging items into the ship beyond the impact point. That may just be the impact damage and not the total damage capability

Projectile velocity is also something you should consider

Thank You so much for the ballistics comparison! I was used to run Longsword ballistic cannons on my 315p. In 3.23 they overheat real quick after 5-6 rounds what makes me rethink my decision and prob go back to lasers. Till 3.22 the advantage of ballistics has been that their fire was not interrupted as it is for lasers due to the recharge time. Now ballistics can overheat rather quickly which kills this advantage. Up to 3.22 I made up my decision not only on Alpha damage and ammo count, but also on fire rate and ammo speed. That´s why i also took a closer look on the Mantis and Tigerstrike for my 315p. Now, that i saw it in your video, the Tigerstrike is no longer in option for the only reason being that it totally ruins the elegant looks on my 315p :D

yep, bucksaw and sawbuzz was my choce for f7c mk2 turrets in 3.22

New gun sound effects are awesome

C-788 cannon is the only weapon with a AOE zone on the ammo, like a missile

When deadbolts awake you from deja vu dreams *solo level guitar playing used as a bridge

Luve the Antares, Babylon 5 Fury vibes

This was a great overview but I really wish you'd covered the ballistic cannons which are supposed to be the best performing in 3.23. The Deadbolt looks really strong on paper... More please!

"nothing but the rain" 😂

Awesome video, can you do a test with the 600i because she goes BRRR…

It seems like they balanced ballistics for post-malestrom where damage is more about piercing through armor and disabling a ship before they put malestrom in the game. Now we are in this weird middle ground where some ballistics feel weak.

I believe (could be wrong) but the ballistics do 50% less damage when the shields are up. Could be an interesting test.

Got to try the deadbolt ballistics just to round out your data and.....laser cannons! The properties of laser cannons vary a LOT now....but am going to bet that they end up as the new meta.

Ooo, will wait for parts 2, 3 and 4: ballistic cannon, laser repeater, laser cannon.

You should watch avenger 1 to get the basics of flight combat, thanks for the stats showcase though, those repeaters look fun, deadbolts not looking like a bad option either

Maybe the size of the bullet (larger alpha) is the reason some overheat faster then others? Would make sense and seem like CIG is trying to connect with reality more, I like that.

Oh that's easy. Please test Deadbolt IV and V on the Corsair.

I’ve missed the ballistic repeaters loved them in 2.x patches

i think the yellow jacket was designed to be an anti-snub option but honestly im just stabbing in the dark. i cant think of another reason for the ammo to damage ratio to be like that.

Ballistics benefits right now mostly depend on intended target. All ships have armor resistane 50% and more. At the same time most small ships and all fighters have relatively small shields. Big ships mostly have bigger shileds. Just as example - Cutlass Blue has 50000Hp, 6000shield, C2 has 80000Hp, 200000shield. Which means if you attack CutlassB with ballistics - you need to make about 100k overall damage, if you attack it with energy weapon you need only 56k overall damage. With C2 things are opposite - it is faster to attack it with ballistics, partially ignoring shield. Partially - because contrary to common misconception ballistics doesn't ignore shields. We can see here 12:33 as Gladius shileds melt under ballistic damage. Shields absorb randomly between 0% and 30% of ballistic damage and after that 50%+ of rest damage absorbed by armor. So ballistics for dogfighting right now is a bad choice. When using precision targeting or manual gimbals which lowers firerate this choice becomes very bad.

I prefer slower firing high alpha weapons. The problem with rapid fire low alpha is that you have to keep ur shots on target longer to do any real damage. With high alpha u can manage ur trigger to only fire when u're sure to hit. Those times might be much shorter but any hits you get will count because of the much higher alpha. When it comes to the real slower firing canons I just switch to staggered so I basically have a continuous stream of bullets going out. With their high alpha they HURT. Just need to make sure the velocity isn't too low.

They also dis a stealth update to ballistics that makes shields absorb up to 30% of the ballistics

try the Mass Drivers ! and the Cannons you only tried Gatlings and a Repeater

What ship is that? It's sick (the X-Wing looking one)

So Revenant gatling is good now? Finally, devs of CIG have gained their common sense, give us some realistic set up for weapons, this is good news. (Need to know fact is A-10 attack jets have 1500 rounds for its 7 barrel 30mm gatling gun)

Mass drivers are insanely fast and long range. The weapons of choice for PVP

don't shields also reduce phys damage by 35-50% depending on ship?

Gearhead going ballistic nice 🪐

You don't seem to use the precision aim mode in your weapon testing videos. Any reason for that? Not a habit yet?

Why did i miss this video... Damn algorithms.

3:08 "damage only 8000" - this looks strange for you because in this table you ignore Burst DPS, projectile speed, spread, heat per shot. Yellowjacket has fast projectile, it precise and a bit cooler than others, therefore it has lower damage just for some balance. For instance Tarantula 870 has same Burst DPS, same projectile speed, bigger spread and heats more. Which means in short fight Yellowjacket is better choice as 2 such guns do 16000damage, enough to shot Gladius.

As much as it pains me to say this. I think going forward having a mix of energy and ballistic weapons is going to be needed. Energy for dropping the shields and ballistic for hull damage.

So you just multiply Alpha x ammo count = max damage. Looks like there is nothing else to it, no X factors involved. Example, ballistics doing moe damage when they hit a certain part of the ship (even a per x many shots). Everything is just straight forward.

More SC "balancing," that seems to make no sense.

The Yellow Jacket looks like an anti personnel weapon maybe?

Did you see bunkers no longer target hoverbikes?

Sadly, this damage dont seem to be applied ingame, it takes for ever to kill anything with balistics. Laser canons are 3x more effective

I see your intention for this video. but there are so much more on this changes to inspect. Like slower speed is less accurate. Also the spread over 2km. so evry weapon has a sweetspot for affecting most dmg... I tested in arena commander and im absolutly unhappy with the changes.

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that ammo count is based on the weapon and not the size of the ship..

Like your videos mate but I don’t get the point of padding out the length reading stuff that’s both on the screen and on a website we all use

you completely forgot the inferno

o7

Half the shots don’t hit because you use look ahead settings, yes it looks nice and dynamic but it’s a totally useless feature. Besides this, ballistics are not worth it anymore, the speeds are bad, the ammo count is bad, the damage is bad.

You left out one of the most important stats, projectile velocity, which dictates the weapon's effective range. Ive found the sweet spot for dogfighting to be the 1400-1600m/sec weapons. This gives enough velocity to apply good damage at around 1000m and prevent shield regen around 2k. It also severely punishes those who get within the 1000m pocket. The 1800m/sec weapons feel weak comparatively for very little effective range Ammo count and rof can be simplified to a ratio of ammo and rate of fire. "minutes of ammo" Unless they cut the repeater projectile range and significantly up the DPS, 3.23 is going to be a cannon meta.

Love your videos man but mm is even more boring to watch than play and that's saying something.

ballistic weapons are useless - ammo for few secs CIG is terrible

They really need to let the pilot control the turret on the scorpius even if it's locked to fixed. Scorpius just gets obliterated when solo in AC