thank you, that's great to hear

The basement is far from being "ahead". Ne is very quick, but Ni can go allot deeper. But it takes more time, because the information needs to mature. When you see a person with Ni, exhibiting Ne like traits, it is because they have already had allot of experience/related experience with the topic at hand.

+solohouette I like Chad Crandall's videos on Ni vs Ne. Intuition is by definition the ability to understand something *immediately* without any conscious reasoning process. In that light, Ne is like an explosion of shallow ideas related to the stimulus or input idea. Ni is like the ability to focus deeply on one or two ideas related to the stimulus or input idea. Chad has a great description of INTP as the person who can use her Ne to take some input thought, then break it out to 10 other ideas immediately, then create a decision tree around those 10 ideas that can grow quite large. So I don't think Ne is about how you create intuition. Ne is more about the ability to have many different intuitions at once.

Yup, exactly that, that's happens. I'll get an answer pop into my head, or sometimes an "aha", and then answer. It's totally unconscious. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's slower. It's slower when it's something new to me, and then I have to "go searching". I'll ask a question of myself, then later I'll have an answer. Might be 2 minutes, 20 seconds, or 30 days. Depends on the topic, and depends if it's more spiritual in nature, that takes time because it's outside of me, sort of. It's both at once.

@@HurricaneRainbowOG hehe, yes it's like having an oracle inside your head. The thing is she doesnt always answer when you need her.

Mark, I’m a little older well a lot older than solohouette. More experience using my Ni. I can observe (maybe consciously “aware” of it happening is more precise) while it is happening. I can redirect and focus it. It’s not dreaming, it’s thinking with purpose. INFJs don’t really dream or for me when I do it is writing a play with me as the hero or villain. Ni is real in the sense it is focused to be applied in the world either physically or meta-physically. I started writing before I saw you had more to read. I hope I didn’t miss the point. I’m reading the rest and offering an apology up front for my likely faux pas.

Totally agree. Vitamin D deficiency is also pretty important to keep an eye on. We really have to make it a priority to self care.

Yeah, I supplement with Vitamin D. Recently I've been studying about cortisol levels, and about how it can effect your energy and mood if it's too high or too low.

Things you shouldn't say to an INFJ: 1.Don't take it personally. That's it. That's the list.

+Alana I think you summed it up perfectly :) Thank you so much for the love!

or our curNe lmao stay curious my -friends-

Thank you for sharing your experiences with Ni! As you said, this function needs a lot of information to properly work. Depending on the subject, I've noticed that it takes me a long time to build solid mental connections with certain subjects (like math, science). But I find that once I do make those connections, I can almost master any subject that I put my mind to. I wonder if it's the same for you? (Also, part of me believes that my young age helps me learn and retain information faster - interested to hear your experience with learning as you've gotten older)

+solohouette Yeah, I also need some extra time to fully understand math and science. But when I do! I think it is more or less the same for us there. Philosophy is my natural habitat, I get it almost instantaneously, and can often develope it further, from my uniqe point of understanding. Young brains/minds/souls (call it whatever) is known to be better at absorbing new ideas and information, but with age comes the perfection of how to use that stored information. It's a developing process. But I still outperformes most people in that area so... I don't know if it slows down that much. Only way is to do a comparison, a head to head test, with my younger self, and that will be kind of impossible :-) Dominant Sensors (Si) suffers more from this old thinking of "hard to learn when you get older" talk, as their mind is focused on Not changing things. It will appear as they are reluctant to learning things outside what they precive as useful information. Ni on the other hand... It just goes on, and on, and on... Sucking everything in. Still in a way like Si, but Ni will always change internally where new ideas fill in gaps or even evolve new ideas, instead of Si that will reject things, which of course is a problem if you try to learn or develope a new skill in older days... Si folks is not very likely to do so anyway as it will be unnatural for them, they will just refine what they always have done, like baking cookies (which is more boring than death from my perspective, but we are all different).

+Renegen1 "How can Ni ever be wrong if it's made up of objective Se observations?" Interesting question. I think the best way that I can explain this is by including an excerpt of an article on how the functions manifest based on the position of its stacking: On Inferior Se: As an inferior function, Se originally manifests as a distrust of the physical world that surrounds its user, or the pervasive belief that one’s intellect can and must be trusted above the sensory information that is available. As Se matures, the user may find themselves feeling steadily more in tune with the sensory world that surrounds them, and more able to trust it as a pervasive force. The inferior-Se monologue (prior to maturation): “I must analyze all possible outcomes of a sensory experience, as the physical world is subject to change unexpectedly, at any time.” From thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/12/how-each-cognitive-function-manifests-based-on-its-position-in-your-stacking/ I find this summary to be extremely accurate. I believe younger INFJs/INTJs tend to put more emphasis on staying true to their visions, which makes it extremely for us to go out of our way to use Se to make the vision possible. I've stated in previous videos that inferior Se causes us to be "all or nothing" - so we'll either overprepare to compensate for the distrust of the environment, or we'll choose to not care and just avoid it at all costs. It's very draining to go "all in" with an idea if we're not sure the outcome will be worth it, so fantasizing about the vision itself is easier than actually engaging with the environment to make it come true. "And here is an experiment, say you had 2 similar paintings each had all of the same components in them, the same characters, colors, objects but the organization of these was completely different. What would you perceive?" I'm not sure if I'm picturing this scenario in my head correctly, could you find an example on the internet? I think I'd be focused on the differences between the two pictures. Like "Why is this table to the left, why is this one at the bottom?" I'd be more focused on comparing the images with each other to identify which one looks more appealing overall. It's not so much the details that matter, it's more about the initial impression that I get by looking at the picture in the first place. "Which layout makes me feel more comfortable? Which one could I see in my house?" I hope that makes sense!

Thanks, Jacob! We always want to assess all sides of a person/situation to see what we can do to make it better (even if it's not our responsibility). Ni-Ti loop can be quit burdensome, but it's better to make an attempt to control it than to sit back and allow it to control us

Hi Solohouette, thank you for this comment: "We always want to assess all sides of a person/situation." Very helpful for my understanding as the search for different perspectives indeed validate your Ni-Ti loop idea. This ESTP also replays a lot of conversations (especially the dialogues with NFJs) to improve my understanding and my Ti is definitely heavily involved when processing thoughts expressed by others. For me, this process can happen several days after the conversation leading to new insights or connections.

+Kath JZ Thank you for the questions. I’ll try my best to answer them clearly: In short, Ni is a perceiving function and Ti is a judging function. Perceiving meaning that Ni can see situations from all different angles, judging meaning that Ti is trying to deduce the different angles to find which one is most closely associated with reality. From my own personal experience, the lengths I go to delve into the loop depend on the person or situation. So let’s go back into the example of a fight: If I fight with an acquaintance, or someone that doesn’t really matter to me, I’ll be less likely to assess the situation for too long because I’m not very dependent their relationship to make me happy. But if I have a fight with my boyfriend, I’ll most likely try to analyze the situation from all angles (Ni) and try to figure out what I could’ve done differently to prevent it from happening (Ti). It usually doesn’t stop until you’ve spoken to that person again (perhaps apologizing) and obtaining new data (through Fe) to gain a more accurate representation of what’s going on inside their heads. Ni - The conversation when downhill when I said “X”. They became defensive when I tried to explain myself. It’s taking them a long time to return to my follow-up text. Fe - (Naturally, you’d go here to gain more information, but since you’re not in their presence, you skip over it and go straight to Ti) Ti - The conversation went downhill when I said “X”-> They did not like it when I brought that up. They became defensive -> That must be a touchy subject for them. They aren’t returning my texts -> They are mad at me. I should apologize. If you’d like another in-depth explanation, check out this post on reddit. It’s the best summary of the Ni-Ti loop that I’ve come across. Please ask more questions if this still doesn’t make sense. www.reddit.com/r/infj/comments/3rkbjh/eli5_whats_the_niti_loop/

+solohouette Thank you. I understand now. If I remember correctly, I think you mentioned in a video at some point that your boyfriend is an INTJ. Whether or not I'm remembering this well, do you have INTJ close people? I'm curious if they can help you with their Te, particularly when it comes to planning and putting said plans in action.

+Kath JZ Interesting question. My boyfriend is an INTJ and I grew up with an ENTJ father. In regards to plans, I'd say they both help me in different ways: My boyfriend helps me make viable plans and my father holds me accountable to them. Right now the biggest "plan" I'm in the midst of making is where to take my career after I graduate. My boyfriend is helping me decide what to do after graduation, whereas my dad is the one that is putting some pressure on me to make a decision and follow through with it. I very much appreciate being close to two Te users because they help me stay grounded and in touch with reality, but it can be stressful when I feel like they don't understand my hesitation to commit to one field for the rest of my life

solohouette Of course, I can see that being stressful. I wish you good luck with all your present and future plans. And thank you again, for taking the time to answer my questions :)

With relation to "their intuition is sort of stabbed right in the gut", I meant that INFJs in Narcissistic families can fail to trust their intuition over time, although very powerful, they may doubt themselves and put themselves in danger, suffer cognitive dissonance struggle with their SHadow functions, Conflict with own feelings as opposed to extraverted ones. Normally Extraverted feeling (Fe) is dominant, but Depression introduces Introverted (Fi) and you know what a struggle it is to understand our own feelings.