3 MISTAKES To AVOID With Ace King!

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In this live poker webinar Jonathan Little will teach you 3 key mistakes to avoid with ace king!
If you're an avid poker player, you'll know that Ace King (AK) is a powerful starting poker hand, but playing it can be tricky. In this video, Jonathan will teach you 3 common mistakes that poker players make with Ace King and how to avoid them. He will cover the most typical situations you'll encounter with AK and how to navigate them correctly. With these poker tips and poker strategies, you'll be able to maximize your profits with this premium starting hand and avoid costly mistakes.
In poker, Ace-King, commonly known as Big Slick, is one of the strongest starting hands. However, even the best starting poker hand can turn into a disaster if not played correctly. That's why in this video, Jonathan will talk about the 3 common mistakes that players make with Ace-King and how to avoid making them.
In this poker video, you’ll learn the tips and strategies you need to avoid making common mistakes when playing Ace-King. You'll learn when to play it aggressively and when to fold it, how to recognize different situations, and how to adjust your play style to maximize your winnings. With this knowledge, you'll be able to play Ace-King more effectively and become a more successful winning poker player.
So, whether you're a beginner poker player or a regular player, don't miss out on this video and learn how to play Ace King like a poker professional!
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@edwardcarde7 Жыл бұрын

I like this format of picking a hand and discuss different scenarios with it, would like some 2nd pair and flush draw, straight draws with overs pair draws and some big over pairs in dizzy spots to discuss and extrapolate of those scenarios, thanks for all.

@KingdomCre8tive Жыл бұрын

Why those r just cooler hands that ur going broke 100%

@Jp-ml8dm Жыл бұрын

BTW, this vid really confirmed to me that I have been playing my Ak for the most part correctly and now I know where I wasnt. Thank you so much. I do love your vids, etc.

@cheflev9884 Жыл бұрын

One of the best things I learned from this channel is to realize equity on the flop and not get cute with it. I have top pair top kicker I just bet 3/4 pot, pot or more. It’s polarizing and straightforward with the goal of not allowing my opponent to outdraw me. Also the AK diamonds in the tournament example where hero raised to 2k. That preflop bet sizing is too small. I would have gone with a 3 bet or more. The goal is to eliminate players with junk and pressure the BB especially when the blinds are larger deeper intro the tournament.

@jasondonhardt4707 Жыл бұрын

Train by day J Little vids by night; all day ✌

@charlesd7515 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan I’ve been watching your videos and bought your Mastering Small Stakes book. I cashed at Caesars in the $150 game! I haven’t cashed in SO long! I’ve also gotten better at letting the bad beats roll off based on your teachings. Last trip to Vegas I was the fish- no more.

@michaelbryant2652 Жыл бұрын

I used to play AK and a lot of hands bad, just like these examples. I look back and cringe at the money I used to light on fire. You, Doug Polk, and Assassinato really made the biggest differences in changing my game more towards a GTO based approach and my results have vastly improved.

@juhokorhonen80 8 ай бұрын

Just here to thank you for all this kind of content you have😄 im a recreational player who enjoys deepening my knowledge in the things i like but im not looking to spend my freetime and money on buying and studying books about poker. That being said, your classes are a great way for me to kick back after work and do my best to understand how this game works. Liked and subscribed, hope you keep theese classes rolling!

@benralph8681 Жыл бұрын

I'm seeing a lot now that people are just ripping it all in with AK regardless of previous action or effective stack sizes.

@delainister Жыл бұрын

what do u mean bu previous action?

@user-cm3id7sn8w Жыл бұрын

@@delainisterlike if utg open utg+1 rerais and you are in the hj to decide

@PokerCoaching Жыл бұрын

They want easy decisions!! So they torch equity so that they don't make a big mistake later... but they already did!

@fletcherpersinger5102 Жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching dang.. yeah I’m guilty of that.. I shove thinking I have a good hand regardless but wouldn’t mind them all folding. It releases my tension of what ifs on making decisions after flop, turn or River.

@teejay6063 Жыл бұрын

Might as well. Complete and total game of luck anyway. Why not?

@johndoh4064 Жыл бұрын

I can recall only a small handful of times a shove w/ AK worked out. One of which flopped A A A and I got so excited I hit fold by accident 😳

@oliveiraantonio9095 Жыл бұрын

OMG, lol

@rishabrege3479 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 good GTO play. Balancing your fold, call and raising ranges.

@johndoh4064 Жыл бұрын

@Rishab Rege yeah, if ish like that don't keep 'em guessin' nuthin' will

@dylanh6478 Жыл бұрын

So you were all in and somehow folded on the flop? Sounds like a made up story

@king_has_no_clothskul8635 11 ай бұрын

@@dylanh6478 YES, IT HAS HAPPENED. WRONG PRESS BUTTON AND STRAIGHT PUNKING YOU ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU CANT READ THE BOARD WHEN PLAYING MULTIPLE TABLES AT ONCE. FLUSH ALSO GET TO YOU BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN SEE THREE OF THEM. FOR COOLER YOU HAVE TO SEE AT LEAST 2 AND GO BASED ON THE BET SIZE. NOW ONLINE YOU GET 3 SUITS IN A ROW AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. THAT WILL COMPLETELY TAKE AWAY WHATEVER STRATEGY YOU HAVE. AS SUCH THERE IS NO SHUFFLE IN COMPUTER AS IT IS JUST PICK BASED ON RANDOM GENERATOR. NOW THEY HAVE AUTOMATIC SHUFFLE TO AVOID THIS 3 OR 4 IN A ROW OF SAME SUIT. THAT MEANS THE SHUFFLE WAS BAD OUT OF 13, IF 3 COME IN A ROW ON TOP OF WHAT OTHERS HAVE THEN IT IS A PROBLEM. THIS IS VERY RAMPANT ONLINE. I DONT KNOW HOW IT IS LIVE. BECAUSE OF HUMAN SHUFFLE IT MAY NOT BE THIS RAMPANT. ALSO THEY BURN THE TOP CARD AND IF IT HAD AN ACE BY CHANCE IT IS GONE. ANOTHER SOLUTION LET SHUFFLE BE AUTOMATIC AND MACHINE BE THE DEALER. WHEN IT BUTTON COMES UP IT WILL CALL FLOP AND TURN WITHOUT BURNING THE TOP CARD. LIKE DEALER IS THE MACHINE. SO THIS SHUFFLING IS AVOIDED. THE WRONG BUTTON PRESS COULD BE A REAL STORY AND IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME MANY TIMES IN MERE 3 MONTHS OF PLAYING BASIC POKER.

@mattandersen6906 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great videos! Just discovered you today and appreciate your deep dive analysis.

@Alexandertygreat Жыл бұрын

Anyone watching these, listen close and try your hardest to play as close to how JL advises, this will crush almost all live games at any stakes and will be a winner in every game online. Great stuff JL

@tiagomota4734 11 ай бұрын

I cant watch this guy … hes talling too much about tourbaments and i dont give a single SHYTE about tournament poker!

@king_has_no_clothskul8635 11 ай бұрын

@@tiagomota4734 NONSENSE. FOOL, HE IS DAMN GOOD IN CASH GAMES TOO. READ HIS BOOK. YOU NEED AN HOUR TO GO THROUGH EACH PAIR PRE-FLOP EVERY SCENARIO: THAT IS 169 HOURS FOR BASIC HANDS ON TOP IF YOU KNOW GTO RANGES GIVE IT ANOTHER 169. SO YOU NEED CLOSE TO 400 HOURS TO GET THROUGH PRE-FLOP IN ALL POSITION*4=2400 HOURS! AFTER THAT ADD 1000 HOURS EACH FOR TURN,RIVER. SO THAT IS 4000 TO 5000 HOURS OF STUDY BEFORE YOU GET DAMN GOOD AT IT. HE HAS TO TALK AS THERE IS SO MUCH TO DISCUSS. ARTICLES BY OTHERS ARE ALSO EXHAUSTIVE. NOBODY IS FORCING TO LISTEN TO HIM. HE HAS EARNED 10 MIL FOR A REASON AND THAT TOO WHEN QUITE YOUNG. MAKE NO MISTAKE, HE IS SOME PLAYER.

@HomeStudioBasics Жыл бұрын

I don't mind a flop bet if it's heads up, and the turn is a great card to barrel, but hero butchered this hand badly multiway.

@Jbmc65 Жыл бұрын

Johnathon , TY very much for making this free for a few days, this gave me the chance to check it out and see what’s available. This video alone is worth a lot to rec players. I will be joining, I just have to see what package is best for me. Thanks Again

@king_has_no_clothskul8635 7 ай бұрын

EXCELLENT VIDEO. MASTERY OF PLAYING THESE HANDS: AK,AQ,AJ,KQ,KJ TAKES SERIOUS SKILLS. JUST GOING ALL INN IS EASY BUT ANYTHING ELSE GETS VERY TOUGH AS YOU SEE HERE.

@MicaRobles-pc3px 9 ай бұрын

Still the best,looking forward to subscribing aging.

@jf5618 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan, at 26:26 you’re explaining if BB leads LARGE (polar), blocking flushes is important. 100% agree calling with some blockers like mentioned (AxKQJd)HOWEVER, you also mentioned holding AdKx and in my head, I see holding Ad as a negative blocking the Ad bluff. Is there a flip side I’m missing here?

@sammajdi2931 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time, and efforts 😊

@mindruns2646 Жыл бұрын

Wish I watched this 3 days ago! 2 days on 2x of poker coaching premium will do though 🎉 thanks guys

@deviongants3724 Жыл бұрын

That was a great video it was really helpful thx and keep up the great work and thumbs up 👍

@darrylb4048 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the free access, I'll check it out.

@hushpuckena126 Жыл бұрын

Won't soon forget a hand from early in a 2500 at the WSOP a few years back. Effective stacks 200 bigs, player opens from the cutoff, button three-bets, they eventually get it in. CO had AK, button QQ.

@omymomo Жыл бұрын

New to learning poker but excited to start with you!

@Welcome-oj4qs Жыл бұрын

Dude your videos are the best

@thevarcad Жыл бұрын

I missed the free offer😢. Loved this video. Thanx. ❤

@judeluhrs9741 Жыл бұрын

AK is my favorite hand in deep stack NL ($5/10 game or bigger with $8,000 or more) ... to me it is the most flexible of all holdings, thinking about each street, and often going to the river with it

@ireneeb6592 Жыл бұрын

It's insanely strong when played properly, especially when villain hits an ace with lower kicker and is a calling station ;)

@jwhameltown Жыл бұрын

Jonathan Little I must say thank you. I’ve been watching your poker lectures for a couple months, went to a 1-3NL game, and by executing your poker theory for each position, I started with 500, walked with 1700 in 6 hours of fun play. Thank you 🙏🏼

@VagabundoOMC Жыл бұрын

That lesson was very helpful!

@Etc...Sports_games Жыл бұрын

Very profitable video in many ways

@robertdemon3550 Жыл бұрын

I’m halfway through and I made the correct choices, AK is a hand I hate getting raised by after I’ve 3-bet.

@kevind4061 Жыл бұрын

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@christarr7006 9 ай бұрын

superb!

@korypeters2059 Жыл бұрын

Just ran into AA with my Ak off your right 💯 dont just go all in because everyone else does online

@BoringLife-iv9lo 9 ай бұрын

I’m doing a thought experiment as I watch this. I’m pretending I have AA instead of the AK, after all we have a range, right? These are bad spots for AA, too, so far…

@frankprall577 11 ай бұрын

Yes

@theartfreak Жыл бұрын

Very Insightful ❤

@Jealod24 11 ай бұрын

On the AJ6 flop we should be continuation betting with all our hands because we have a range advantage compared to the BB. And whenever your betting frequency is high you should look to keep the bet amounts low. You should increase your bet percentage when the frequency of your betting drops. So on this board, a 30%-35% bet amount is where you want to be. If the flop was A67 then your bet frequency would drop because the board is starting to favour the bb and so out betting amount should increase to betting 50% pot. A board like 965 would be even worse for us and our frequency would drop even more so when we did choose to get we would use a 75% pot size. That’s how gto determines bet sizing… it’s related to how frequently you bet which is based on if you have the range or nut advantage

@genekunkel8001 5 ай бұрын

love your videos. any difference between 1-3 and 5-10 in these examples

@joshualucion2873 Жыл бұрын

The strategy to win poker is easy if you bet on Aces, play all Ace and face + the 10, limp in with queens or lower pocket pair, raise with KK, AA, or AK. Bet on your aces as a high card bet, if its a flush or straight chance to then raise your bet accordingly.

@jerkbeans Жыл бұрын

Very shocked and happy about the access pass. Thank you!!! Youre the best and all of your content has greatly enhanced my skill at poker

@jerkbeans Жыл бұрын

Now I just have to watch 700 videos in 4 days :D

@ziecha1652 Жыл бұрын

Just joined channel will watch video hopefully will learn some stuff 🎉❤

@edifysalim5359 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the teaching I knew I made a mistake now. UTG limp and I raise on the button with AK off, he reraise me, knowing he might have pocket 10 up, I go all in cause I prefer a flip than 2 to 1 underdog at flop, he end up having QQ and I lost the all in. Now I know I shouldn’t go all in yesterday and see the flop it’s better

@karlcowell9392 11 ай бұрын

If you were in a tournament with under 20-30bb you made the right shove. You need more context to the situation. If the flop came A, you weren't gaining any value post flop and won the flip for a double up.

@edwardcarde7 Жыл бұрын

Never missing a spot to reference Robbi’s hand xd Nice thumbnail and lesson coach.

@lifeiswonderful22 Жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR THE 5 FREE DAYS!

@Bleesieteets Жыл бұрын

Thank you. ❤

@geraldhenderson8474 Жыл бұрын

If you c bet ak with position, you may get the next 2 cards for free. Aka see all 5 cards. Opinions????

@jamesjones2675 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the free access

@lt8400 Жыл бұрын

If you 4bet with K6s and they 5bet you have to let it go?

@vanni9283 Жыл бұрын

I would absolutely check that T-7-7 flop 3-handed with A-K!!!

@toddmurphy390 Жыл бұрын

Online so many will shove AQ AJ all suited aces as well as almost any pair that online I think you have to be willing to go with AK unless you know the player you are against doesn’t play like this.

@lifeiswonderful22 Жыл бұрын

8:28 Check. We have a weak draw against two opponents who have better range connectivity with the flop. Just try and realize your equity by seeing a free turn.

@KKSuited Жыл бұрын

I play daily at a live game with very little 3 betting, and its almost always AA, KK, QQ and AK, but AK is a little rare. Preflop raising is quite a bit looser, but there is a lot of folding to 3 bets. Which kind of sucks. Yesterday I faced a late position raise from bigger stack that generally plays pretty tight, never raising middle pairs, pretty much AJs and up. I made the decision to flat with AKo in the BB for a headsup flop. Flop came A82, with the ace and 8 of hearts. I held the K of hearts. If I had 3 bet preflop I probably wouldnt have gotten more than one extra bet out of her after the flop. Since i flatted, it worked to cap my range and she called my check shove immediately with AJ. Clean runout and a quick double up.

@DavidBaker-zu5gf Жыл бұрын

Check

@blue4life175 Жыл бұрын

Example at 20 minutes. Would all in on the flop be the right play?

@user-vb2zj2yv1w Жыл бұрын

Is it too late to use free access? Being overseas you always the middle of the night when these go up? 🙏🙏

@MrCTWIST Жыл бұрын

In a 1/2 cash game where everyone likes to limp but they will almost always call a 3x bet ($6) if they would limp. How much bigger should I bump my raise value?

@nicolastorres147 11 ай бұрын

3:43 Why would 76s be a call but 98s and 87s be a fold when they’re all suited but 76 has lower cards?

@wesch6354 Жыл бұрын

I had the craziest AK hand on Friday night. 1/3 nlh. I had a tiny bit over $500 in my stack. I'm the CO and have AhKh. A new player just sat down in the bb. There are a couple of limps when it gets to me. I bet $15. The bb 3 bets to $55. Folds to me and I elect to 4 bet to $180. Then the bb rips it for $500 effective. If it was AKo im just calling his 3 bet. But its suited. So I make the call. The board runs out QT829. No flush draws. I'm thinking I'm dead. The bb is waiting for me to table my hand and I point out that he was the one who went all in so he has to show first. He announces he has 6 high. I'm thinking it has to be a slow roll. Maybe he has 66. So I say "I want to see your hand before I table mine. I don't want to be slow rolled." So he gives up and shows 56o. I couldn't believe it. I won an all in pot with A high.

@qsdailydose8970 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan! If my bankroll is short should I play tighter if I don’t want to move down lol

@alecburris4225 9 ай бұрын

Me and my friends call AK the never hitting hand. It gives players a ton of false confidence and i cant tell yoy how many times ive seen it lose to a bs pocket pair. AK is great if you preraise a little, and see an A, K, straight or flush potential on the flop. If i see the flop and its not favorable, i have no trouble folding IMMEDIATELY

@reccct 7 ай бұрын

does all this applies to tournaments as well?

@_RPM_Fitness_ 6 ай бұрын

There is not much of a difference in play cash vs tourney .

@paulgibbons-keynotespeaker Жыл бұрын

On these Kt528 runouts - with double FD, are K9 and K7 better calls than KQ bc block str8 draw bluffs (AQds) QJ/ J9 ... i guess KQ value bets river and we fold a chop, and we beat KJ - but does KJ go 3 streets?

@SENSUI347 Жыл бұрын

❤❤❤ ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO

@bradleywood570 Жыл бұрын

I like those two examples in the third mistake. I understand the concept of Stack to Pot Ratio, but I don’t know a way to keep it in mind the whole time. I’ll forget the pot size while I’m playing. Are there any things to do to keep track of this easily?

@MrJoosebawkz Жыл бұрын

play online or take notes

@nathanevans6292 Жыл бұрын

Sucks to suck

@callumstanton1595 Жыл бұрын

best to remember it street by street and round it in your head to simplify it. If your heads up and raised $20 pf, $30 on the flop, $50 on the turn and $100 on the river, you have invested $200, now multiply this x2 since there is only 1 other player in the pot and you have a pot of $400; if you've only got $475 in ur remaining stack, ur spr is roughly 1.2 : 1

@Stefan-bn4wh Жыл бұрын

Hi. The first chart (Cash) is vs the SB not the BB right?

@sampantiliano Жыл бұрын

It’s common sense. Today I was playing a casino cash game guy who didn’t raise pre once in the two hours I was playing raised I folded AK off pre to his raise. He had AA. And the flop came A rag rag. Was mad then I was happy.

@leonmozambique533 Жыл бұрын

Can you barrel on disconnected medium/low boards to represent overpairs? Like we can fold out 2nd or even top pair bad kicker on like a 825r board if we are the preflop raiser or 3 better because we are going to have all the TT+. This is sound logic? Also on boards that turn into 3 of one suit, like Ah5h4c9h. Do we need not need protection from single heart holdings if we hold AK no heart. Or what if the board is AhKh4c9h?. Lastly, if we do hold some back door draws, does it make sense to barrel then turn our hand into a bluff?

@oldterry9476 Жыл бұрын

could you bet on turn an fold if you are check raised

@frankprall577 11 ай бұрын

Bet

@TunasHouse Жыл бұрын

Where do I send in a question about a hand?

@lifeiswonderful22 Жыл бұрын

34:30 If they check/jam the turn GTO says to call, right?

@TheSodakboy93 Жыл бұрын

On the AKdd, it's perfectly reasonable to bet small with that hand, it actually almost always bets in theory. Of course, jamming is horrible once you get raised, you actually become pretty indifferent between call and fold at that point.

@ShroudCrazeBassCovers Жыл бұрын

i dont think so, i may be wrong, but the thing is the BB will call with any 2 suited cards, so since u have no clubs blockers when the Q comes i think u should check and see the turn if its other C u can fold a BB bet probably if its not may play as a call depending on the bet size and player... but thats my opinion didnt check on any solver

@maldjng993 Ай бұрын

I just won a big pot when I was holding QQ and my opponent ripped it in with AK preflop lol

@korypeters2059 Жыл бұрын

What do they call a poker players favorite hand again????

@willh4340 Жыл бұрын

Damn it, Jonathan! I originally thought check/fold with the first AK hand, but then, i thought I would actually bet/fold sometimes against weaker players, or some with scared money. Then, youre like, "easy C/F, and I was like, "I was right in the first place!" 😂

@RadicaLxIce Жыл бұрын

Ok, this confirms that my AKs I lost tonight was in fact a bad beat. Playing 1/2 NL holdem, my first hand at the table is AK spades. I 3 bet pre in the CO, action folds to +1. He calls. Flop comes A-10-6 rainbow. I lead for half pot, he calls. Turn is ace of hearts, 2 hearts on board now. I bet pot (around 100). He calls. River is a 5 of hearts, backdoor flush gets there but find it very hard to place UTG on a draw. he has only $40 behind and I jam on him. HE SHOWS 4 6 OF HEARTS. He was calling all streets with 6 high and a backdoor draw. Like, should I ever be backing off on the river with top trips??????????????? How the hell does he get there. Oh well, I ran it back up and left positive $200 like I alwyas do.

@nickmullen402 Жыл бұрын

For LJ open vs BB 3-bet 100BB scenario, not 4-betting KK (or only 10% frequency or whatever) seems pretty absurd. Can someone explain the rationale for that? Surely if we 4-bet KK and get called we're way ahead of the BB flatting range??? And for 100BB don't we just call it off with KK against a jam?

@Jp-ml8dm Жыл бұрын

Is there an email address where I can ask you a couple of questions b4 joining ?

@NickBham Жыл бұрын

I feel like this video was made specifically for me😆

@DavidTURNER-we4ek 3 ай бұрын

Also known as the parking lot hand

@mikemc4997 11 ай бұрын

I disagree that you check the flop, there’s less than a 20% chance anyone has a 7

@DeathclawJedi Жыл бұрын

Honestly as a former Las Vegas resident and weekend poker with buddies guy... I play A K about 30% of the time. I just don't think it is as strong a hand as most people think it is..... Then again if I've been drinking I AM the idiot that goes all in before the flop on Deuce Seven so what the fuck do I know!🤣

@sojc7144 11 ай бұрын

BIGGEST example of Donk Poker with Ace/King vs an Elite Cash Game player was during the Hustler Casino Live between King Burro😂 Wesley who had Ace/King VS Tom Dwan who had Queens!!🤣

@richardlefaive1944 Жыл бұрын

I hate A-K! It's not a hand until you hit and ... it's usually obvious you have it so you have difficulty printing $

@paulallen7630 4 ай бұрын

your audio is low, fix

@dietasse24 Жыл бұрын

I still cant believe that you are supposed to fold AQo to a single 3bet from the BB

@milxasap7412 Ай бұрын

I mean I went all in and with AKs and opponent had AA. I guess I could have known better?

@connman8d617 Жыл бұрын

Are we absolutely sure that AK with no diamond is a call on this river? Our opponent can have A2/A9, all combos of 87, and most flushes. Do we really think that our opponent is betting AT or A8 for value here often enough that we are good 25% of the time? What are the bluffs? 74? 76? Our opponent can't be floating naked Kd on the flop can he? I would much rather call AcJd than AcKs.

@danielmeuler2877 Жыл бұрын

I came SO Close to Torching my stack preflop at the Casino yesterday. I was up against AA. The little voice in the back of my head stopped me. No One Four bets in 1-3 without at least KK and 9/10 times it's AA. A few hands later the villain doubled me up in a 1100$ pot when I had KK. Patients Pays Off..

@willo9743 Жыл бұрын

I'm in here again

@amirpishvai5353 Жыл бұрын

It does need credit card and still charges 29 from 58 total , it's bs advertising guys

@davidlapychak1207 Жыл бұрын

OK, let's go.

@Stefan-bn4wh Жыл бұрын

Can you explain why the GTO Wizard charts for the same spot are vastly different?

@marksimpson2321 Жыл бұрын

There are different numbers of players and different stack sizes in the two different situations! The 'spot' is not the same in both situations.

@donaldharris4113 9 ай бұрын

Yes, big bet half pot

@trampingwithcosmo6848 Жыл бұрын

Where are the run outs where you get called all the way down every time and then the river they bink the nuts

@marksimpson2321 Жыл бұрын

Who cares? Theyre c. 8% to win on the river if they have 4 outs so you win c 92% time

@vanni9283 Жыл бұрын

#1: Absolutely not! #2: Absolutely not! #3: Abso-frickkin-lutely on the flop, but certainly not on the turn. Play pot-control when the 3rd club pops off. #4: Same as #3. Not sure what I'd do on the river though. #5: Bet on all 3 streets. Massive missed value on the river. #6: Large bets on flop and turn. Could go either way on the river, since there is already so much $$ in the pot.

@JohnSmith-nx7zj Жыл бұрын

Regards getting all in preflop with AK and having only 40% vs JJ+, AK… Obviously that’s not good. But isn’t that failing to factor in the hands your opponent folded? If you shove and V folds a bunch of hands worse than JJ+/AK then you’re picking up a chunk of money uncontested.

@marksimpson2321 Жыл бұрын

So you pick up say 15bb 75% time, and are crushed and lose 100bb most of the time you get called...

@JohnSmith-nx7zj Жыл бұрын

@@marksimpson2321 I mean obviously it depends how much you’ve already committed to the pot at the time you’re opting to shove, remaining stack sizes etc. But 40% is hardly “crushed”. If you open for 3bb, BB raises to 12bb (giving a 15bb pot) and then you shove all in for 100bb, you’re losing 17bbs on that shove in the long run. But that only happens 25% of the time. 75% of the time you win 12bb uncontested. So in the long run it would actually be profitable. That’s not to say it’s optimal. Shoving 100bb into a 15bb pot is clearly absurd.

@marksimpson2321 Жыл бұрын

What's in the pot is not yours. Pot commitment is bandied around too much to justify hugely - ev plays. If you play against tight players who rarely play less than AA-QQ and AK Nd maybe not even all of those, you're burning money.

@JohnSmith-nx7zj Жыл бұрын

@@marksimpson2321 it’s not -EV though. I just showed you it’s not. And I don’t know why you’re telling me “what’s in the pot isn’t yours” as I factored that into my calculation. Obviously if V is only calling with QQ+/AKs then AK will do even worse so that would change things. Personally I wouldn’t generally shove AK except vs maniacs, but if you do and get 99/TT/JJ to fold that’s actually a good result.