Expecting others to be rational and knowing everything we know is only leading us to be disappointed over and over again. That's the life of an INTP.

Bro explained my whole mindset with out trying

The exhaustion of dealing with people who refuses to uses logic and would prefer mind games. 😮‍💨

Bro the first one literally made me cry. I was just "People don't have reasons? What do you mean? That's impossible"

I feel it when he said half-ass read books 😂

As an Enfp, I heavily resonated with #2. I hate following rules just for the sake of following them. They have to make sense

I'm a 65 year old INTP. My framework is still a work in progress. 😛

I take emotions in consideration, and pridicts what people will do based on their habits instead. Understanding their true nature is more practical compared to expecting them to be rational make you negotiate easier, rational enough to not be hurt and understanding emotions to be healthy which can be futher analyzed. Also mindfulness helps with emotional well being along with staying rational when dealing with different situations.

I still cant belive some people have no reason for their actions at all that saunds stupid

*half ass read some books, you got me there🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

As an INTP I approve this message.

You just broke my world 😭 Why is this way too accurate though…. -Intp contemplating life

I used to constantly get into conflicts with my managers because I’d be 5-10mins late. My rationale was why do I need to be a couple minutes early when we’re just going to stand around and chat for a few minutes AND every day we end up staying late anyway?

I have come to the realization that common sense is apparently not common but that doesn’t stop me from getting disappointed with people 😅

Yes. The rest of my peers were generally less intelligent than me but extremely more developed in social interactions.

I just had a discussion with an INTP about this. He definitely thinks this! - ESFJ

Well, people do have reasons for their ideas; they just don’t know what they are. They may not think they know about what triggered their thoughts because it could be subconsciously made up, but there’s always a reason:)

I feel you intp -intj

C'mon intp bro's y'all know how frustrating it is when someone has no rationality and seemingly shallow frameworks. Deep down you think they're stupid 😂 even though you immediately reason the complexities of humans to justify it so you dont feel just arrogant 😂

It blew me away when I found out not everyone makes their own rules and frame to see and engage with the world in. I’d go crazy if I didn’t have standards or guidelines that I’d personally made for how I’m gonna act, I’ve gotta know my reasoning is sound. Consistency of thought is a big part of how I know I have identity instead of being a random collection of actions

I would also say being logical first about a situation then emotional. Of course if its losing a close loved one then I feel sad but if there is a problem I often find myself discussing solutions or reasons why this happens rather than comforting others. It can come off as cold or that I don't care as much. It's just processing situations differently.

And this must be why INTPs and INTJs normally get along to the point of being partners in crime: I would say this is also true of INTJs.

I've learned to dumb things down. Especially since smart shaming is very common in our country, not that I mind, but it's inconvenient when everything you say, they'd think it's always something deep so they wouldn't even listen. Ugh, I want to have no social life sometimes, if only that's possible.

My biggest flaw is always overestimating my opponent. It's better than underestimating someone I guess

INTP not understanding why things/people are stupid is fairly accurate statement… and genuinely wished everyone could just not be so stupid… 😅

I used to say my thoughts out loud even if they are rude sometimes, even if it's rude but now i restraint myself sometimes

Went from INFP to INTP after getting stabilized by medication and now i just expect to be disappointed by everyone around me when before I just had the hope that people would be nice and things wouldn't repeat themselves. 😭

Oh my god as an ENTJ, where can I find a guy like you?

As an infj all i heard was the word stupid repeatingly

When I figured out people dont have reasons I was astonished and learned to never take someone seriously until they prove their competence to me first. (Direct or indirect)

Then you build your entire framework so that you can still act normal with everyone because you fundamentally still think there has to be an underlying logical reason for everything. Or maybe this is just me

Lol that man rebellious af

I am an INTP and expecting the people around me to be rational is so true! Let’s just say I’ve come to the harsh realization 😂

The first one! I get so frustrated when people make stupid decisions. I get annoyed when people involve their emotions so much when they make decisions.

This is accurate af especially 2,3 that’s literally what I think, I love frameworks AMS I thought everyone has one but it wasn’t

YES YES AND YES. FINALLY. I used to be a psrt of the community a couple years ago and I thought I was an INFJ, came back decided to retake the test and sh*t INTP is the better fit

I relate to this so much! Especially number one is always shocking to me, like, wdym you do things for no reason?? Why would you do something if you don't have a reason for it/if it doesn't serve a certain purpose? I always have such high expectations for the world and then remember "Oh yeah, people are stupid." ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein). 2. Authority and rules (and thus the system in general) should always be questioned. We can't just go around the world doing whatever other people/rules tell us to do without questioning whether these things are in alignment with what *we* want and/or should do. Always "have the courage to use your own reason" (- Immanuel Kant) and don't just mindlessly follow others - that's basically a one-way ticket into getting manipulated. 3. Yeah... this one is just... wow. I don't think I could even go about my life without an ideology/framework of how the world works. (infj here, though)

I try to accept that sometimes the reason is actually no reason at all

Just entered the world of personality tests and I am speechless with this video 😂

Pure art. Everything you said made sense. Had me loll! The problem with INTP's is they dont know they are genius. Dwelling on that truth seems self-aggrandizing, and useless. They just think that their thinking is thinking. The reality is their MBTI type is probably the closest you will find to a fully developed, fully sentient AI.

Well, it's more like I know why a person did a thing I don't think is rational, but their reason is of no interest to me🙃

I agree with everything in this video. The 2nd one really had me cracking up because it's so true.😂😂

This.. like I even get irritated when I see people acting irrationally because I probably assume it’s given.

it disappoints me every time when others follow a dumb rule when you can just ignore it

No type halfasses their reading more than INTP 💪

The full framework one is so real. Even tho I’ve lazily read books, I have settled on an overall framework of my mind and reality. I’m well aware how lazy my research has been but I do have a clear structure in my mind of myself, reality and how I should interact with reality.

I think it's funny how this guy talks about rationality while most of his videos are him proffering emotional appeals to irrational value judgments about other types rather holding up "Ti" as some sort of deity-given "super power". He's not very logical himself while making heavy judgments that I think Ti-doms who actually maturely develop their functions wouldn't make.

Half ass read the book😂 yup that test was spot on😅

I just hate it so much when my brother ask me a stupid question… He asked me today if you really need knowledge in the long run…

I cant explain myself that well. Its exhausting

I've also learnt truth is interpreted differently for some people. I value object truth and evidence. Some people align with personal truth and authenticity. I was always confused why some people used personal anecdotal experience as evidence to a debate. Anything outside of that is not real (relevant). When presented with facts and stats, these guys would not budge. So their integrity is aligning with their values and beliefs. My intergrity aligning with truth and objective reality. I fit my beliefs to best match my perception of reality at that time.

Why is this sort of correct except of the last one i don't think i have ever thought that as a INTP myself

Just now learning about personalities and as an intp this is absolutely mind blowing how much I relate to that🤯

I always think this. But apparently people are too stupid to have the same mindset because apparently they can’t think about reality in an analytical manner which makes them extremely ignorant

excuse me have you ever asked people why they acted a certain way and their answer is "just because" ..... that is the most bizarre answer I have ever heard a person give. i cannot understand it

Everyone has a reason for their actions its just that not all of those reasons are known or reasonable

thank you for this😩😩😩

As an INTP, I especially felt the rules being broken and half ass book part. This one time in High School, we had this English teacher that told us to go to the library to issue ourselves some books for the class. Well. I had already gotten some books before hand and already had them on me, yet my teacher told me that if I didn’t go down to the Library to grab ANOTHER book, she’d call the dean on me 💀 Well, I told her over and over again that I had books and legit had to shove it in her face to make her process that I HAD A BOOK. After that, she then told me that since I already have a book, She told me to go to the library and listen to the speech the librarian had prepared for my class (for the ones that needed books), and she said if I didn’t, I would be sent to the deans office for disobedience 💀 I said to her “Look, sending me to the library to get books that I DONT NEED is completely pointless and a waste of my energy, and class is already draining enough. And after realising that I already have a book, you *STILL* want to send me there? For what reason? The people that went down there is already coming back up meaning I’ve missed the thing entirely. Say if I did go down there, I’m wasting my energy just walking to the library for something I ALREADY have. And you are telling me to go to the library for a speech that wasn’t even meant for me in the first place? You are just wasting my time and the librarian’s time because she’s gotta recite a whole speech for 1 person who wasn’t even meant to be there and I’m wasting my energy going there and back. And by the time I’d come back, I’d miss *YOUR* lesson as well, so I’m literally letting you do your job to teach me” And I said this in a logical, (mostly) well mannered way and she still got the dean on me 💀 After that, I just kept thinking she was stupid. And this happened the next year with my new English teacher. We had a class of 30+ and only 1 teacher and a lot of these guys fell behind in work and others were delinquents. Well, my friends sat behind me and they asked me for help, and realising the teacher was going around the class helping other people before my friends, I thought I’d be nice and set them on the right track to do the work. Well. As soon as I started helping them, the teachers says “Oi (my name) stop distracting the class okay? That’s disrespectful” and me just being me, I took that as an insult and having a shitty day, I said “Okay, look, you are a teacher in a class with 30 and more students. Like 80% of this class need your help, and you haven’t even made through all of them yet. My friends NEED help and they can’t get it from you since you are going to others, and there isn’t much time until the period ends. I’m just helping them because you’ve already told me what to do and they haven’t got any idea yet. I’m just trying to help them and technically I’m helping you as well, so what are talking about saying “I’m distracting the class” mate I’m just tryna help the people you haven’t gotten to yet and you probably wouldn’t have gotten to them in the first place knowing how long until class ends, so stop nagging on me” And I got sent to the dean….AGAIN. I didn’t see how she couldn’t process my logic at the time but I can see it now.

THIS IS SO TRUE!!! SOME PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY JUST DELUSIONAL?? FOR NO REASON?? dang

This is some advance level shit. I am an istp and I admire intp for there thinking capability, thoughts and idealogy there are just unbreakable. I struggle with ne and I sometimes wish I could see the world through there eyes and apply there ideas in the real world.

As a bit of a different enfj I get the frameworks part ... I often question if people go through things in their head and come up with conclusions about their self and the world as much as I do Ps: love u intps

Interestingly, the third thing (the framework), I've read as the concept of Convergent Truth.

THIS IS SO ACCURATE AND TRUE.

Very true. Took me long time to know most people are not like us and those 3

Can mostly relate to this as an INTJ

The 2nd one was the hardest to learn. Most people dont follow the rules. So many people get away with it because the popular rules dont actually matter

Good list. I can NOT help but (kneejerk reaction) assume people have reasons. 2 is an eternal battle for fitting in with work and society. Of course, mentioned framework, is subject to constant revision. But some truths "should just be assumed to be understood". At least in the moment, until we may or may not say something OR make the smarter choice of thinking it through in relation to who we are dealing with.

Rationality is a virtue. Most people aren’t virtuous, most people prefer leverage. The reasons INTP stay away from leverage is because they feel as if they already got it. They feel as if they understand the map and the game very intimately, so they’d rather operate within that framework.

Omg! The frustration I get about stupid rules and the stupid people that don’t question them. Every job I’ve worked at will have nonsensical rules that I won’t follow, and I cringe seeing coworkers mindlessly follow these rules to the letter! If it doesn’t make sense or affect the work I’m doing, I’m not following it, and I will find a more efficient way for myself to perform my job once I gather the system.

Was anyone else thrown of by the fact that they said “3 things the INTP thinks is stupid (but isn’t),” when it should say “3 things INTPs think are stupid (but aren’t).”

Perfectly put!

I think I am fully convinced now that I am indeed INTP.

I agree with the rules one.

Yes,true I ignore stupid rules. I can't accept a rule without a good reason for it.

Add to that list, they think they know more than they really do.

I really appreciate how he just got right to the ppint. When i try to watch videos on mbti usually they are so long winded lol. But yes. Especially the authority thing. If its stupid im not doing it. And my deprrssion is triggered from people not be rational.

Yeaahhhhhh, I always complain about bad rules and stuff in school

Rules is more about morality but for rules in physics breaking rules just means you dont understand or know enough.

when i was younger i was so eager to learn in deep how the brain of the people i see on the street work i wanted so badly to stop them and ask them directly hey how does your brain work but i knew that would obviously be weird . anyways later on i figured out a lot on how the brain of the people i see on the street works and it's a major let down nothing to be excited for i thought that everyone would be different with unique ideas and so on but yeah im not interested anymore

hopefully, overtime, that framework will take other people's irrationality into account as well.

i used to think people base their arguments on rationality and truth. I always wondered why irrationality and confirmation bias is so accepted in society. I've since learned that humans seek to defend their opinions and beliefs, instead questioning and correcting them. Protecting one's feelings, self image, reputation and values is more important than truth to most people. People are less likely to speak the truth when its against their interest. Thats why people would rather lie than admit fault.

Delusion is an asset in this life.

my grandpa is an intp and he’ll go through stop signs if he doesn’t think they should be there.

Moral of the story: others are stupid and I am not😂😂

So ... Imaging having discussion with someone is normal? Other people do that?

Leo 🦁: At first, he came across as strong and sure himself, has it put-together. At the end, he said, "Every day, I'm dying by 5%." He said I always made him feel safe. That I'm "everything."

Is framework basically a minimal level ti understanding of everything?

Я Entp, но это всё ещё подходит мне...

Perfectly explained

I hate when useless rules are enforced on people. Rules are rules for a reason, and when they can't serve their only purpose should be disregarded. So stupid!

I was once told that ‘common sense is not so common’ and it really confused me for a while😅 as an INTP, that really just explain how my brain works

Now i know why i am so disappointed in people

How are they… not? Then what is in people's brains?

Seek out Curt Doolittle and The Natural Law institute.You're welcome.

Why I agree fully with him😂😂

As an INTP my family get very annoyed with my constant "why, whats the reason" question

Why do people listen to authority without thinking for themselves. For instance, my Chinese mom has a lot of traditional values and thinking stuff. And when I think her why she does things this way, she says it’s because it how she grew up, and her mom did it. ( I get if you were conditioned, but yk even simple things ) I genuinely believe that everyone should listen to common sense and logic, it’s makes me a little stressed when I think about the millions of people(almost billion), who do things without logical reason

If you think other people are stupid, it is likely that you are stupid because you don't understand how humans work. After learning typology, every persons actions make perfect sense because they are doing what their type does

Perfectly bulit framework but constantly debating ? How about a framework that is always being remodeled, renovated and parts occasionally razed to the ground. And why half ass reading?! Real probing and questioning involves revising one's own worldview. INTP does not equal ego plus an assumption of being smarter than everyone else.... it means caring about things like truth or utility or what can be known even if one's self gets in the way. Anyone who claims they have a full understanding of the world isn't an INTP

Am I wrong? I honestly had to cut off a friend because he and his girlfriend, insulted my character and never let me explain. They assume that my logic was stupid so they never thought I had a framework for my thoughts and at multiple times they told me what I was thinking instead of asking me and after I explain, they apologized, but I wouldn’t let it go