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3 Warnings Signs You Are In the Wrong Class
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Күн бұрынIn this video I talk about some major warnings signs that might indicate you are in the wrong class. I also talk about how to overcome these things if they do happen to you. This can apply to people in high school or college. Do you have any advice for people? If so, please leave a comment below:)
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@AtheismLeadsToIrrationality 2 жыл бұрын
The fact Math Sorcerer is sounding like a psychiatrist should be enough to establish that Mathematics is really difficult
@martinhaub2602 2 жыл бұрын
When students in my math classes struggled and were totally lost, the common "solution" was to drop it and retake it. I told them that what they really needed to do was retake the course BEFORE this one. If they couldn't handle Calc I it was always because they really never learned and absorbed the precalculus material. Pre-requisites matter so much in math.
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
I have also found this to be true. When I would teach an advanced class I found the students who were struggling were most often weak in concepts that were often covered in depth in previous courses.Once they developed a solid grasp of those concepts it was no longer such a struggle.
@Sassholepro 2 жыл бұрын
I have never thought of it in this way before. You are right. Honestly, I don’t even remember anything from precalc, and I think that is where I will start. Thank you for making me realize this.
@callmedeno 2 жыл бұрын
@TechR It might matter what way you learn something, some people may learn all the rules but never really think about what's going on, how things connect, meaning their knowledge is not very fluid or holistic. I imagine there are a lot of people who 'did all the exercises' but when something is presented differently or requires real understanding / depth in the area rather than recognising a type of problem and following a recipe they find themselves stuck. Our teaching of math is just so off, sometimes I feel many of the really good high school students punch way below their weight when it comes to things that require more than rote
@theobserver314 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, Martin.
@ottoomen5076 2 жыл бұрын
Math is such a peaceful subject. I find myself thinking clearly about difficult topics after a good chapter.
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
I find if I don't do any math for a prolonged period of time my brain starts getting lazy. When I do math regularly (as in every day) I find my brain is a lot sharper, I think more clearly, I am much more focused, and much more relaxed.
@pinklady7184 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Math is a peaceful subject and I am self-learning, while not in college. At home, I have books on maths and physics.
@dominicmacisaac8589 2 жыл бұрын
I am taking ODE currently. I almost cried during the second day of class. I did not follow the way my teacher taught. I was ready to drop the course. The day before the midterm I found your videos and watched every lecture for the first half of the course. I ended up getting an 87.5% on the midterm. It was merely 2 days prior to taking the exam that I felt completely ready to withdraw from the course because I thought I would fail it.. Thank you for helping me learn
@byronrogers4489 2 жыл бұрын
I signed up for a Salsa class. I was so excited. I arrived a little late as the instructor said "you were born to dance!" I slowly backed out with the bags of chips behind my back. I knew at that point I was in the wrong class.
@doctorjerbear3177 Жыл бұрын
The only course I dropped was what was supposedly a first course in Algebraic Topology in grad school. Long story short, in a class that started with nearly 40 students, only 4 stuck it out. Years later I ran into one of my grand-advisors (my undergrad advisor's advisor) at a conference, and he specializes in topology so I wound up telling him about that course. He told me that the way the material was presented was absolutely how a person who has been specializing in topology for 30 years thinks about those introductory concepts... But that picture is something a person is usually going to only have after they get at least 5 to 10 years further into the subject.
@girlsinacoma Жыл бұрын
but why? why do professors do that?
@eflat6522 2 жыл бұрын
As a self learner, I think I can say at times I was learning from the wrong textbook for the same reasons.
@wilhufftarkin8543 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish my professors were as friendly and motivating as you!
@Sassholepro 2 жыл бұрын
I can not tell you how much I needed to hear this. I'm currently taking a summer calc class and it is destroying me. While watching your video I burst into tears and I realized that it would be best for me to drop with a W and try again this fall. I purchased your Udemy course and I will be watching that over the summer to prepare and do it again with a better mindset and a better foundation. Thank you!
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
In grade school and high school I was "bad" in math. Or perhaps I should say, "I was convinced I was bad in math". I flunked quite a few math tests and classes. My high school counselors suggested I avoid math. But some little spark inside of me made me keep taking on math classes.In my 11th year I was taking trigonometry and started developing a real appreciation for math. Math became an inviting and peaceful endeavor for me. I flunked trigonometry (not for lack of trying) but I took it again and did reasonably well. Both my interests and my confidence levels in math began to surge. I went on to major in math in college and then did my graduate work in math. Maths became an integral part of my life. Math and I are inseperable.
@B_T.E.A.M. 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't take any math courses during the summertime unless you have strong mathematical knowledge. It's just too much information in a short amount of time. I suggest you get strong in algebra because that's where most people fail in calculus.
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
@@B_T.E.A.M. During the summer months if I decided to take classes I would take things like non-math electives such as History, Literature, Music, Art, etc.
@roberthuber2770 2 жыл бұрын
You've arrived at an extremely mature decision... From my perspective this makes you a great success. All the best in your future studies. In many ways I feel math is a spiritual experience (and that is why it's not easy!)
@somethingsomething2825 2 жыл бұрын
one thing i like about this channel is that u can learn more from the comment section than the video itself , that proves how good the community formed really is
@cardinalityofaset4992 2 жыл бұрын
Nice description of my algorithms and data structures class haha. Espetially the part: the homework or test looks like nothing you´ve done in class.
@medaphysicsrepository2639 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you summed up every class I took...
@benhill3098 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it's essential to realize there are reasons we might get an answer wrong or don't understand a topic. We often hear people ask, " What were you thinking?" typically rhetorically. But I ask myself this question when I make a mistake in any situation. I try to recall my train of thought that led to the error. Then I know what to make right, and I don't feel bad for it. By the way, Math Sorcerer, you seem to have a lot of extra energy lately, putting out one video after another. Great work! Thanks for this video!
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
Another issue that sometimes arises is fallacious logic. Sometimes a fallacy might lead to a correct answer to a problem and this fortifies the notion that the logic was correct until it eventually leads to an incorrect result
@AtheismLeadsToIrrationality 2 жыл бұрын
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@benhill3098 2 жыл бұрын
@@WitchidWitchid This is one reason in favor of the recommendation of logic books as well as math books, though they have some similarities.
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
@@benhill3098 Studying some logic was an asset to understanding maths and in particular in constructing proofs. When I taught abstract "proof oriented" courses I always liked to spend some time covering fundamentals of logic. It seemed to help students to better understand the proofs they were shown as well as their ability to construct proofs.
@greense65 Жыл бұрын
@@WitchidWitchid I also think a little bit of symbolic logic is good preparation for math classes that require proofs. A gentle introduction is simply the chapters on deductive logic in the introductory logic book by Hurley & Watson. Start with basic truth tables; then do propositional and predicate calculus. Do all (or almost all the exercises). Then follow up on the same subjects in the Schaum's outline of logic. They have a nice, highly-structured approach to the propositional and predicate calculus. All this can be done in a summer. It really helped me.
@piyushdamor4826 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever you solve a problem something is already given in the question and something you are expected to know in advance. And something you need to creat and this is most important to solve any problems .
@hubomba 2 жыл бұрын
Measure Theory questions for a Calc I class? That's hilarious in a morbid way. Even if a few of the students could piece together the logic, it would be so unmotivated as to be useless.
@augustotannus27 2 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling like this in my master's degree. I never liked abstract algebra, but it is one of my obligatories on my first semester and it sucks. I'm really just trying to remember some exercises and demonstrations e trying to replicate them.
@anselmblueberry4745 2 жыл бұрын
I once wanted to attend a class for surgery theory and I ended up in a room full of med students. I was definitely in the wrong class...
@kersi-sandiego6036 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent points. Very cogent. Wish I had this guidance AND encouragement when I was in grad school - 1970. Another helpful video would be on how to spot a truly lousy professor and what to do about it. Thx again.
@TomokoAbe_ Жыл бұрын
"Math is difficult and it takes time." Bingo! It is definitely going to suck up a LOT of your time. I did not understand anything most of my instructors taught me. However, I was able to record the instructors. I listened line by line. If it is still over my head, I am thankful for KZfaq--there is always some instructor who will explain how to do things. There are many online resources. A lot of times you have to review older stuff such as FOIL to do College Algebra. Calculus needs a strong Algebra background. Often you have to review back to go forward. I really suck in math, but I took online classes such as UDEMY prior to the class starting...that usually made the difference between passing and failing. That required considerable study time itself before the actual class began. Self sacrifice and determination not to fail. Preparation is the key.
@adamrubinson6875 2 жыл бұрын
Every time he said "it's not your fault", it made me think of that scene in "Good Will Hunting".
@homamthewise6941 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I had a saying that goes like this the lecture is one kind the recitation is of another kind the exam is on another dimension go figure
@pilotpeego1820 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you were my professor. You're awesome!
@Taylor-rx4yb 2 жыл бұрын
That measure theory comment is absolutely wild! great video!
@pl412 2 жыл бұрын
Really needed this video
@kx4532 2 жыл бұрын
Where was this 25 years ago?
@barence321 2 жыл бұрын
I had to take Vector Calculus (Multivariable Calculus) three times to pass it. I failed Discrete Mathematics. I barely passed Probability Theory. Math can be hard. In Complex Analysis, we were expected to know hyperbolic trig functions. I never took any classes that taught hyperbolic trigonometry.
@alfonshomac Жыл бұрын
Here's a sillier version: I enrolled in Calc III. Applied Mathematics and Applied Physics requires "Multivariable calculus" hahah Too late to drop, so I just switched my grading to P/F.
@siffe3336 Жыл бұрын
I can't change my classes as they are required in my program, however my university makes sure to organize study help, especially the base course of math we take the first few months we get both help from professors other students who have already done the class. Pretty sure there is a whole club that is just to help other students with math.
@Leon-pu3vm 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I had to withdraw my applied probability class because it was not clicking at all and I blame this partially on myself for not putting in more time but I also feel that in class practice was not adequate for the homework’s. I felt that in class we did all the pieces of the homework, but not an actual problem like it. This approach made it much harder for me rather than being just ‘spoonfed’ like in many math classes where I can infer the steps needed to solve. On reflection this probably makes for better learning as you must really connect all the pieces but during the semester it just killed me. I really appreciate your look on mathematics and schooling in general.
@robertopang4240 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.....I was totally out of my league in Vector Analysis. This class was not a requirement for Mechanical Engineering, but I thought it would make me feel smart to take it as an elective.... ....boy was I wrong. At least I learned how to be humble.
@acdude5266 2 жыл бұрын
I have had courses where the professor seems to play students against each other, as if to say, s/he gets it, why don't you. Some schools, such as engineering schools, are so competitive that it creates a toxic culture Then, also calling out students in front of other students. And, having student driven classes. If you are coming into such a class with manageable or recoverable deficiencies or you are more introverted, or you have an overload as a working graduate student or ill parent, then you are basically screwed through no fault of your own. Usually, these are austere professors with negative attitudes towards students. Withdrawals or Incompletes with later completion are not bad ways to go when reasonable obstacles exist or arise. There are socioeconomic disadvantages across society that are inherited by the university.
@A.I.Office 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! I feel like that in linear algebra and it's a mandatory class
@zariyahcampos3565 2 жыл бұрын
Warning sign 2 and 3 is what I am experiencing now.
@Ramss_Oficial Жыл бұрын
I really needed to hear this 😢❤
@cr16219 2 жыл бұрын
I had two instances a long time ago. In high school geometry, we were doing proofs after the second week. I knew it was wrong because I knew a lot of kids from other high schools in my county through bowling leagues, and they laughed and said they didn't do proofs until at least after the second month (of a year long course). I was in a class with brainiacs, failed all the tests, but got through it with four Ds in the quarters because I did all the homework. In community college, started Accounting 1A, which had no prerequisites. By the third day, did not understand a word the instructor was saying. He talked about advanced business concepts and higher math computations related to it. Might as well have been Wharton Graduate Business School. Dropped out, took bookkeeping with same instructor, and did fine.
@kx4532 2 жыл бұрын
The prof liked to put the weird self made questions on the test.
@Primitive_Code Жыл бұрын
I just experienced #3 in my abstract algebra class. I got a C but I thought I was well prepared.
@andrescientos 2 жыл бұрын
There were some nice newly built apartments across the street from the college I went to where everyone would party. We'd smoke, take shots, and somehow still go to our afternoon classes. We'd always get this one chubby guy that looked like Nacho Libre to drive us back. Anyway, it was a perfect set up for failure. I met a girl there and soon enough, I stopped going to classes completely. My earlier years in college I basically just spent them being a jackass. I didn't belong there at all. When I would go, I'd purposely write wrong answers or turn in really good drawings of the professor instead of my assignments. I was a nominalist, and math was to abstract and one-sided. If it didn't point to anything real, then what was the purpose? I believe the majority of the population feels that way about math and so they lack appreciation for patterns, and the way numbers interact with each other without context.
@charlottepeukert9095 2 жыл бұрын
That was my situation in gradschool.I struggeled a lot to fix it.Without the prof, who told me, I was dump.I had private tuition, loads of selfstudy, talked to other students and they said that the prof was incomprehensible.
@NothingMaster 2 жыл бұрын
By the time I was 17 I had already (and independently) mastered the entire undergraduate math curriculum, and then some. So in a way I was always in a wrong/boring math class! Sadly, it was against the rules to test out of the more advanced courses. You just had to hunker down and stomach the boredom.
@user-tk1vh5gl6v 10 ай бұрын
I really needed to hear this. ❤
@garffieldiscool1163 2 жыл бұрын
I remenber when I studied mechanical engineering. I took fluid mechanics as a subject. The professor was very smart but he was not good at explaining things on the level that I could uderstand. Altough I passes my claas tests I was not confident enough to write the final examination. To aviod having the same Professor, in the next semester I changed the subject to electrical engineering.
@amon-iu7sz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah good
@girlsinacoma Жыл бұрын
Remember if enough of you drop the class the prof doesn't have a job lol
@homamthewise6941 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@TheMathSorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@borisbrkic3433 2 жыл бұрын
I have something to add, you should drop out when your professor gives you a power point presentation about the course, tells you to write him a work that will be on the same lvl as your master thesis to pass the class. Also he insists that: it has science in it, you find the relevant books and scientific papers on your own........
@JackieJKENVtuber 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a video about walking into the wrong class and noticing that your class is in another building
@InfiniteQuest86 2 жыл бұрын
When you show up to linear algebra and the professor starts talking about biology. Oops. I think I'm in the wrong class.
@WitchidWitchid 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
@frankchen4229 2 жыл бұрын
Algebraic biology is emerging
@masoncamera273 2 жыл бұрын
All these red flags came up for every class I took at RPI
@maultron2051 2 жыл бұрын
U shoulda told this to stanley smh lol (do u read my other comments? im a fan sortta)
@LaughingManRa Жыл бұрын
Sometimes a strategic withdrawal is warranted.
@LucasDimoveo 2 жыл бұрын
Why was the measure theory in the Calculus course considered acceptable? 😮
@frankchen4229 2 жыл бұрын
Probably to reinforce concepts
@f.osborn1579 2 жыл бұрын
It turned out the rest of the class was cheating and the professor was unaware or did not care.
@Schnikle_fritz 2 жыл бұрын
what about if you don't understand anything, but neither does anyone else in the class? 🤣
@catsaresocute650 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that always so? You have a lot of students start and have to have different semiarries etc bc they will not all fit a rool but then later you are just to rows of students sitting thoghter in a small room
@archetopics9473 2 жыл бұрын
This video gives me horrible flashbacks ahhhh
@simphiweyawa3970 Жыл бұрын
Come to UCT Statistical department SOUTH AFRICA, Melusi Mavuso(Order out of Chaos) will kill your career. 🤣😂
@kamleshdatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
hello the math sorcerer. I am from India I am a student of seventh grade. Please tell me the name of the middle school level book and get it reviewed and suggest. I want to get better at maths.
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