3 ways I chain down equipment.

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Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek

Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek

3 жыл бұрын

How to secure and chain down heavy equipment. 4 point tied down, plus 2 options if you lose a chain or binder and are short handed. using 1 binder and 1 chain or 2 binders and 2 chains.

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@johnculotta4433
@johnculotta4433 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how impatient someone may be getting who’s waiting on you to bring out the loader, safely transporting equipment is something you don’t ever rush for anyone. Do it right. Great video.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
well said👊
@fuzzyelm1
@fuzzyelm1 9 ай бұрын
Yes and tgis dumb bastard does not have a clue about the rules on load securement
@blackwolfnews1722
@blackwolfnews1722 3 жыл бұрын
Drove flatbed for a couple decades, and the DOT frown upon using one chain and two binders. That said, when I did do it, I used the opposing far ends of the one chain so it looked like two chains, and left slack in the middle. Great video!
@piemai651
@piemai651 3 жыл бұрын
When you use a single chain with two binders... ALWAYS put the slack between the two attachment points on the machine. Put the binder from the loose end near the trailer anchor to the slack part between your two attachment points on your equipment (basically making a loop at each corner of the machine). Do this for both sides. This way, if one of the two binders breaks or loosens, the other binder is still tight. If you put the binders the way you did in the video, if one binder loosens, both will go loose.
@fuzzyelm1
@fuzzyelm1 9 ай бұрын
That’s not all he got wrong ! This bastard needs to be watching videos on proper load securing not making one ! He didn’t even know what to start he didn’t know there most important rules ! He is an idiot
@charleswise5570
@charleswise5570 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! Step away from things a couple minutes, then go back and double check! Perfect!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
yeah- that works well for me.
@dexewing1
@dexewing1 3 жыл бұрын
Great info and yes please - more how to's. You're not seen as a "know it all" but rather an expert who has been there/done that and sharing what works for you and what doesn't. That in turn helps us learn and figure out what's best for us. Thank you, Stan! Love all the videos.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@fuzzyelm1
@fuzzyelm1 9 ай бұрын
Not great info at all ! You must be a total idiot if you think anything he said was true ! This bastard does not have a clue
@rodneystewart8958
@rodneystewart8958 3 жыл бұрын
I was taught to chain 4 corners and one on the attachment and to pin swivel joint on artic loaders
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
sounds solid
@zacharycullen3677
@zacharycullen3677 3 жыл бұрын
Less than 10,000 pounds you can use two. Over ten, the way you mention is the way it is supposed to be.
@solutions972
@solutions972 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the content, keep doing things with love. Great content. I'm sorry for your loss.
@adamsnyder4330
@adamsnyder4330 3 жыл бұрын
I walk away too and I triple check before I get in my truck I have found small items on stuff I was picking up at night and my 3rd walk around found a loose piece to what I was hauling. If I did see it that could of fell off and went thru a windshield or worse. That extra 30 sec of my life could of just saved someone else life if it went thru their windshield. Thank you for the great video would love to come plow in a storm with you this year I have been doing it for 20 years before I could drive. I has tractors when I was a kid then an atv till I was about 18 and bought my first plow truck 1986 ford ranger 6 1/2 western set up with a meyers E60 pump stick shift. It was 4 different colors prob 4 different truck the guy use I painted it all black with 94 cent rattle cans from home depot. Now Im 35 and I have alot of residential and a few commercial lots its just me and I hire a guy to shovel for 50 to 100 a day depending on how fast he is. I got a lot of my customers from when I was a kid passing out fliers in my neighborhoods and it just went from there I gain new ones every year. I located In North Ridgeville Ohio 20 min west of Cleveland ohio. 2020 and 2021 season has been our best one since 2013 2014 season where I plowed every weekend that year and worked a full time 8am to 5pm job 6 days a week so my sundays were plowing the whole season. The seasons I just chose to work for myself and the storms never came to the west end of ohio no they went above us over lake erie and dump lake effect snow on everything east of cleveland, also pa, NY, and other states out east. God Bless
@delmerfreerksen904
@delmerfreerksen904 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an over the road flatbed truck driver. If the equipment is under 10,000 lb with attachment 2 chains and 2 binders is fine. Over 10,000 lb no matter what its 4 points of contact and 1 over the attachment. It can be 2 chains, 4 binders or 4 chains, 4 binders. The problem with the 2 chains when over 10,000 lb the binders have to be tight but there also has to be slack in the chain in between the contact points to show that is 4 points not 2. That's what gets a lot of people.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out.
@charlesahon
@charlesahon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Stan. We all need a refresher from time to time.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@lesransom2964
@lesransom2964 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the “How to” videos. Even tho some of us have been there done that, it’s always good to get different perspective. Your explanations are informative and down to the basics without being condescending. Thanks Stan !
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍. Glad you enjoy them. Have a great rest of your week.
@craigwavra3495
@craigwavra3495 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you doing the how to videos. Always good to learn the thought.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nealamberg807
@nealamberg807 3 жыл бұрын
I strongly believe in the four point tie down and do nothing less. But, one thing I noticed with this video that I do slightly differently (everyone has their own way of doing things this is just how I do it). Because chains are firm and they do not stretch like straps do. Before I tighten everything thing down tight, I first put chains on all four corners just snug because if you tighten one chain on the rear the equipment can be pulled backwards because it is being pulled from one side. Where as when there are four points already on and then you tighten, the chains are pulling against each other instead of just pulling against the weight of the equipment. But if you do this, I always double and then triple check all of my chains (if i am working solo) a few minutes later so I know that my chains are tight. But all in all, very informative video. Thank you Stan. God Bless
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Your right- You should snug down only after all 4 points are tight.👊
@AHinde
@AHinde 3 жыл бұрын
Another solid video chained down tight. "That's not going anywhere." Thanks for sharing!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@nelsonmiller6800
@nelsonmiller6800 3 жыл бұрын
Love the how to videos and the testing videos for those out there that haven't loaded anything or looking for their first mowers or skid steers or whatever
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. appreciate the feedback.
@andrewfell7642
@andrewfell7642 3 жыл бұрын
Location plays a big part in whats legal and what's not. In BC any pivoting part has to be secured individually. Say on a wheel loader, you put one chain on each corner, one in the middle that keeps it from articulating, and one for the bucket. That skid steer here would need a 5th chain for the bucket/attachment even if securely attached to the machine. When I got my class 1(CDl) and was still looking for work I asked CVSE(our DOT) for clarification and they confirmed for me that was the proper and legal method here. I wanted to make sure just incase I got a job hauling equipment
@HeavyIronAcres
@HeavyIronAcres 3 жыл бұрын
Trailering equipment is something I only do very occasionally, so I really appreciate the info! Thanks Stan!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@staglione79
@staglione79 3 жыл бұрын
We do 1 chain 2 binders on small stuff, go ham on big stuff. Great video Stan. YT unsubscribed me for a few weeks. Missed ya brother
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back brother!
@cliffpalermo
@cliffpalermo 3 жыл бұрын
Same here didn't realize until I saw your comment wtf YT
@njh4473
@njh4473 3 жыл бұрын
If your trailering a wheel loader of excavator you have to chain the bucket or stick of excavator. Great video Stan keep up the great work and stay safe.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@larrythompson8630
@larrythompson8630 Жыл бұрын
Best demo I ever saw. 2 old DOT guys from two counties just about to retire, never worked together. They were dang near fighting over what was legal. Both WERE positive a loader (even with no buckets) MUST be separately chained down. WHY? Because 20+ years ago a tractor loader on a trailer running with a lunch box in cab. Somehow the lunch box activated loader, raised, took out power across street in town. How a 1970s JD hyd activated by a lunch box?
@simonthebroken9691
@simonthebroken9691 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Still helps a seasoned veteran at towing.
@brandonbowser5487
@brandonbowser5487 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video , I just got a trailer and I look forward to useing it a good bit and I needed some tips on that , and as always I enjoy it videos and I wait every week for ur videos to be uploaded and I always watch them , and this might be off topic but I love the sound of a bucket back dragging on a gravel road or driveway idk y but I can't seem to get enough of it
@thomasyerbey337
@thomasyerbey337 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Stan 🇺🇲 I really like these kind of videos 🇺🇲
@wwflguy
@wwflguy 2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother you have to watch out for this idiots driving 4 wheelers. Personally I've typically used the 1 chain 1 screw binder at each end, then a set of straps or chains over buckets or attachments. I'm liking the looks of the 4 point method. A bit better to make sure nothing can slip. I could still. Accomplish it with 1 chain and 2 binders at each end leaving the chain slack in-between the 2 binders. And be the same as 2 binders and 2 chains since I run chains with hooks. Thanks for the great videos they are very informative and educational.
@MrNiccholas
@MrNiccholas 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate these videos! very educational!. I had a scary situation at work a few weeks ago with a trailer. we have a dual axle dump trailer and we have been having issues with the axle flipping raising the real tires off the ground. well I hooked up and pulled out and must have missed getting the hitch secured (even though I had double checked it and thought the pin was in) and it came disconnected from the ball! thankfully I had the chain birdnested and it caught the trailer and didn't damage the truck or trailer! but MAN!!! I almost needed a new pair of trousers!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
That is scary -its also why we use the pintle hitches. easier visual and I feel more secure.
@Arod06
@Arod06 2 жыл бұрын
Great video champ thank you I’ll be using these techniques next week
@toxicbear4792
@toxicbear4792 3 жыл бұрын
Brand new chains and binders all nice and shiny awesome dude
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thanks- my other ones got stole with the trailer.
@toxicbear4792
@toxicbear4792 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dirtmonkey wth? Is there anything they don't steal 😡
@charleschristiansonii718
@charleschristiansonii718 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, can still tell you're hurting from losing Kaw, but completely understand, God Bless and hope you feel better soon....
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@KeepGoingTransport
@KeepGoingTransport Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best videos on youtube on how to tie down a skid steer. Wish you guys would have shown the front part also
@stevebrough304
@stevebrough304 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. The best train of thought is everything would stay fastened if the trailer overturned. I agree with you Stan...
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@RoseUnseen
@RoseUnseen 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your time and knowledge!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@texanerection492
@texanerection492 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Stan!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you🙏
@anthonymakley1530
@anthonymakley1530 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JasonBristow2003
@JasonBristow2003 3 жыл бұрын
You did an awesome job on this how-to video! A good method I've seen uses 1 chain with hooks and 2 binders. One of the chain ends is hooked in a loop around the machine's tie down point. One of the binder hooks goes on the trailer d-ring and the other hook goes on the chain coming from the tie down point on the machine. Repeat for the other side of the machine.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@haydenuk02
@haydenuk02 3 жыл бұрын
Great work and thanks for sharing this important content with us. Take care
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@haydenuk02
@haydenuk02 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dirtmonkey You're welcome Stan 👍
@davidh6292
@davidh6292 3 жыл бұрын
From what ive been told. Dot regs if equipment is 10,000 pounds or more then 4 points of securment needed. If 10,000 or less then 2 points of securenent needed but we still use 4 points when hauling our 9,600 new Holland Track loader.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard something like that
@charleslynch7274
@charleslynch7274 3 жыл бұрын
Love the how to videos very informative hope all is well
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@crazyjack3357
@crazyjack3357 3 жыл бұрын
One time going down the road a little dump truck went by me and I noticed one of his binders was loose luckily I was able get the guy to realize one of the binders was loose though the cb radio and coded message so a DOT really wouldn't pay attention the guy pulled over I helped him and double checked everything the next two curves we went around there's a DOT sitting in the side of the road guy came back thanking me so much on the cb I'm like it's the trucking code man no problem
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Yes- I know the truckers code. But I am not sure the new generation does.
@doozerakapuckfutin
@doozerakapuckfutin 3 жыл бұрын
I was in a volunteer ambulance service in England we all ways did a 360 walk around before the vehicle moved more than 6 ft . We were rally trained as well . Nice to see someone knows what there talking about .
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
it just makes sense to me
@doozerakapuckfutin
@doozerakapuckfutin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dirtmonkey have you come across a " Retractable ratchet straps yet sir ?
@carlwilliams1570
@carlwilliams1570 3 жыл бұрын
I like hooks on my chains and in shorter lengths. You can tie down skid steers with 2 if it’s less than 10k. 4 corners is always safer so just buy the chains and binders that you need. Good info videos. Your last video about loading trailer was really good. I have hauled a Cat and JCB track machine on a Kaufman 20 skid steer trailer. When using a 1/2 ton truck you better have it in the right spot!
@gerlandkent6377
@gerlandkent6377 Жыл бұрын
Thank, you for sharing this video / I bought a Dump trk and a Backhoe / now I'm in the market for a New 10 to 20 ton 20ft TriAxle trailer
@lukeherbert25
@lukeherbert25 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips
@josephmontenegro8392
@josephmontenegro8392 3 жыл бұрын
Your the best !! 💯💯💯
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@dominicfarzetta
@dominicfarzetta 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video!!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 3 жыл бұрын
Stan DOT states any extension of Equipment longer than 6ft (boom) need's separate securement. Also anything wider than the trailer it's sitting on is called oversize and must be flagged. If it is over 9 or 9.5 ft wide you do need a PERMIT for moving that load. Same is with over weight as well. Best is talk to Highway Patrol when you see them they will guide you before you do any trips what to do and who is best to contact. Every state is a bit different but DOT in General is your best friend. DOT welcome's you with open arms to help you to stay legal and secure. Another thing we do in general is we run yellow lights like construction crews do day and night at the end of out trailers and on the cab itself if anything is like an Excavator or had dirt or hazard on to warn vehicles and truckers that we carry something which is a potential hazard. FL DOT told us you better overdue it than not do it. We got pulled over a few times because we had poles loaded and the stupid red flag fell off but because we also had the yellow light at the end the Officer only gave us a verbal and we always carry spare so we just installed a new one. One time down by Okeechobee I pulled over on the side of the road because I had to take a call for letting my customer know we run 45min late. And an FHP pulled beside us rolled down the window and asked if we are ok and I stated I had to reach out to our Customer to let them know we run late and due to us having a trailer loaded with hazmat material I didn't want to risk anything. He smiled and thanked us for been extra careful and pulled behind us with his lights on to ensure no other Semi was hitting us. He escorted us for 5 miles and than took off while we continued our trip down into West Palm Beach. DOT officers are humans too. So talk to them like they are your best friend even some can be a dick but at the end you soften up their tone because you want to do the right thing and to stay legal so they go out of their way to help you, because the sworn an oath which states : SERVE AND PROTECT and lately a lot more officers take this dead seriously and they show they go above and beyond. Like If you have a Construction site and to much mud was running out of the road they will block it for you so you can clean it up instead of giving you a ticket if you let them know right away when they show up : Thank you officer for showing up. Could you help us block the road so we can clean it quickly. We had a few dump trucks leave to much mud on the road and because it's a busy road we couldn't shut it down yourself without risking us and others. Right there is when the officer stops in his tracks and helps you instead of ticketing you because you show you tried by don't want to put yourself or others in danger.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I like that story- very cool. Much respect👊
@SUROBLEDEKchannel
@SUROBLEDEKchannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great video stan!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@judahchadwick6577
@judahchadwick6577 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! For some reason a lot of people around here think they can secure a Bobcat with 3000 lb ratchet straps to the front grab bars on the cab and up to the radial lift in the back. I’ll make sure to give them a wide berth.
@robertvannicolo4435
@robertvannicolo4435 3 жыл бұрын
Stan never had a problem with dot inspectors with chain hooked to d ring with 1 binder back of machine. Loader bucket I have welded hooks. Then I hook chains from bucket to trailer put tension on chains tighten with binder in rear of loader. Never got ticket for being improperly tied down. Been stopped many times.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it must be secured
@MagentaRV
@MagentaRV 3 жыл бұрын
4:30. Depends on the weight of the item tied down, the thickness of the chain, and the rating on the binder. Your example load with that chain and binder would be legal.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks
@TsunauticusIV
@TsunauticusIV 3 жыл бұрын
CDL class a driver thought it would be ok to haul a high track D8 with no chains. He made it the hour drive back but as he was turning into our yard... the 8 slid off the trailer. 😂 blocked all the dump trucks and people in the yard for a couple hours. Yes... he was fired. 😂
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
holy crap
@briannelson6259
@briannelson6259 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You For Another Very Good Video. And You Are 100% Correct ! That's Dot Code For Us Here Too 👍
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@kfelix2934
@kfelix2934 7 ай бұрын
@04:33 yes if the load is 10k or less that would be legal. The rule changes if it's over 10K vs under. A heavy load needs 4 points of securement. A 50hp bobcat is not a heavy by any measuring stick. BTW that is a nice looking trailer.
@StartBuildingYourDreams
@StartBuildingYourDreams 3 жыл бұрын
Stan, awesome video as always! I’m looking at stepping up to a track loader...I’ll definitely be getting some speed binders....unfortunately I’ve seen what happens when rollers and graders either flip or come off a trailer...securing equipment is absolutely critical, as well as checking, double and triple checking your loads! Buddy check whenever possible. Is it Legal? Huge fan of the Officer Hoover videos...understanding states have different laws too. Some states require buckets or attachments be strapped/ bound separately. As you said, Never too many chains or straps! ~Jon@SBYD!
@brenttrgovic1849
@brenttrgovic1849 3 жыл бұрын
Great video . I still hate how lawncare guys on youtube do not secure their mowers on trailers.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Thats not safe
@TBE.LLC.
@TBE.LLC. 3 жыл бұрын
I was always taught whatever you put on that trailer you should be able to take that trailer turn it upside down and not have anything fall off and thank you very much Stan I love the how-to videos the dirt monkey University was awesome kind of miss it
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip- I like that idea of nothing falling off tipped upside down.
@midwestbd7144
@midwestbd7144 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good rule of thumb but legally you only need 51% securement, so a 10,000 lbs skid steer needs over 5,000 working load rated securement.
@MB12116
@MB12116 3 жыл бұрын
@@midwestbd7144 5,000 pounds secured for a 10k machine would only be 50% secured, maybe go back to school
@midwestbd7144
@midwestbd7144 3 жыл бұрын
@@MB12116 wow good job, smart guy. Maybe that’s why I said “over 5,000 lbs”.
@truthsmiles
@truthsmiles 3 жыл бұрын
@@midwestbd7144 Not to be that asshole but “over 5,000” isn’t 51% of 10,000. You’d need to say “5,100 or more” to be at least 51% :)
@Cometlandscaping
@Cometlandscaping 3 жыл бұрын
👍🇺🇸 I have always used 4 points
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Best way to do it.
@chadder19k
@chadder19k 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Stan you can use one long chain and tie down at two different locations. Be like on the back of the skid steer you can use one chain only if the chain has slack in it. That’s DOT rule their so you can have that on long chain working on both sides of the machine if their is slack in the middle of it
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard that is ok but you should check your local DOT
@christophercharles7302
@christophercharles7302 3 жыл бұрын
Great shirt Stan!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheGibby13
@TheGibby13 3 жыл бұрын
Love this thanks man
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@Dakotalogger
@Dakotalogger 3 жыл бұрын
I like my 4, 6 foot chains,one EZ binder on each corner only bidders to have absolutely love them super fast and E Z !!!!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have it dialed in
@Dakotalogger
@Dakotalogger 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dirtmonkey Have you seen the EZ binder I get them from A W direct online. I Have used all the ways you showed in the video up till about 2 months ago love the 4 chains and the EZ binders. EZ binders demo / bobcatman61 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocpkZtKQttaUg6c.html
@toxicbear4792
@toxicbear4792 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another video bub
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@eriksmith5950
@eriksmith5950 3 жыл бұрын
Stan, the 4 point is the best hands down! 1 chain for every side! Best load tie down there is. If a chain brakes on the back, There is one more to take it's place. Now do we all do that, NO! but we should for sure!!! If the chain is big enough it can hold all the load then yes. But every chain has a load rating on it and you should never go over that load rating. So if you have a load that is 14,000 like my 299D2 is you need 4 chains that will hold that and more. So each one of my chains need to hold at least 3,500 pounds per chain or more to be safe! Sorry about the conmen sense geek I just want off about! lol
@chrisskon5067
@chrisskon5067 Жыл бұрын
Hey Stan, just a suggestion for you. Since you are a Landscaper in summer, I would take some scrap 4×6 or 6×6 timber posts cut to about 18" long and cut in half diagonally (like aircraft chalks). Then, take 2 galvinized eye-bolts, one screwed into the end of each half, and about a 2' piece of rope to keep them together. Having 2 sets in each truck and on the trailer will lock those wheels in place very well while loading, unloading, parking, etc. Great channel, I wish I lived near you as I would love to work for you. Keep up the great work!!!
@fuzzyelm1
@fuzzyelm1 9 ай бұрын
That’s not all he got wrong but yes I saw that as well ! This bastard needs to be watching how to videos on load securement not making one
@jakudahsymba5453
@jakudahsymba5453 3 жыл бұрын
You need to criss cross the chains left corner of trailer to right corner of equipment.. and etc.. This is the Military spec way we secure stuff not only to trailers but for aircraft.. That way you have multiple angles of restraint.. 👍🏼👍🏼 I’m a 2T2
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@hanleyglowka3352
@hanleyglowka3352 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I woch your videos everyday tell the team I said hi and I woch thor videos everyday I love you guys I love the video
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are the best!!🎉
@mikemcgown6362
@mikemcgown6362 3 жыл бұрын
You said something I wish more of my past employers understood, there's more than one way to get a job done. I learned so many ways to do the same job but the last one I worked for believed only his way was right, even when I proved him wrong. Okay, I lived in the shop lifestyle for 30+ years, so I'm wrong.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah- I don't get guys like that.
@mikemcgown6362
@mikemcgown6362 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dirtmonkey thank you! Git 'er dun! The right way.
@nfisheremti
@nfisheremti 3 жыл бұрын
one thing i always do when chaining equipment to a trailer, is to stop a half a mile or so after i start, or before i get on a highway, and recheck all my chains and binders. sometimes a chain that was nice and tight, "popped" a link and is now slightly looser. doesn't always happen, but only costs you a minute, and saves you from having a load that's shifting around
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thats smart
@wbball15
@wbball15 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Bob Hoover from Indiana DOT. Buddy check is a great method. Always remember, the DRIVER is responsible for the load.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have heard of him
@frogmanpipes9561
@frogmanpipes9561 Жыл бұрын
Interesting fact. Where I work. If we haul a skid steer we use 4 point tie down. The same as if we haul a single axle dump on a trailer. Per regulation. Vehicles weighing 10,000 Lbs. or more MUST be secured & tied down at a minimum on all 4 corners! Vehicles 10,000 Lbs. or less do not require corner tie-downs. Calculating the minimum number of Tie-Downs depends on the cargo length, cargo weight and cargo type. The sum of the working load limits from all Tie-Downs must be at least 50% of the weight of the cargo. Articles 5’ or shorter require 1 Tie-Down. Articles 5’ or shorter and weighing more than 1,100 Lbs. require 2 Tie-Downs. Articles more than 5’, up through 10’ require 2 Tie-Downs. Add an additional Tie-Down for articles more than 10’ and for each additional 10’ or part thereof. (Articles prevented from forward movement by a bulkhead or another load require a Tie-Down for every 10’ and for each 10’ or part thereof.) Wheeled or tracked vehicles over 10,000 Lbs. require a minimum of 4 Anchor (Direct) Tie-Downs and 4 Tightening Devices - each with a minimum working load limit of 5,000 Lbs. Anchor Tie-Downs are a direct connection between the load and the trailer. All accessory attachments such as booms, shovels and backhoes must be lowered and properly secured - usually with an additional Tie-Down and Tie-Down Device.
@manny53o
@manny53o 3 жыл бұрын
In CA the 4 point tie down is the only legal tie down method used in this video. You can use 2 binders and 1 chain but the chain slack must be in the center not on the ends and your weight rating for the chain is then cut in half. (2) 7k binders and (1) 7k chain only gets you 17,500 lbs instead of 21k The single binder option will get you pulled over swiftly 😂
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
yep.
@MagentaRV
@MagentaRV 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 That's less legal than your 1 binder and 1 chain example. Slack the chain in the middle and have the binder go from the chain on the inside of the machine to the chain tail on both sides. Then it will be legal and the most efficient.
@tylerbowers144
@tylerbowers144 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
So glad!
@paulrreeder
@paulrreeder 3 жыл бұрын
I was told by alot of truck driver that dot wants you to x your front and rear chain on equipment no matter what equipment it is
@janosvadas
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
For an S185, that’s a legal tie down with to use one binder. For a T770, there is NO scenario except 4-points. 10,000 lb is the magic number. Then there’s the entire sizing concern as well. What is the working load limit for your tie down point as well. Worst thing you can put on a trail IMHO is 5/16” G70 chain. As a commercial operator, you really need to stop at a truck stop and get the FMCSA cargo securement handbook.
@halfcaf1105
@halfcaf1105 3 жыл бұрын
Hook, through both eyes, binder on one side is DOT approved and is the primary method here on our roadway that is taught to our maintenance people. Good note on a 4 point....don't crank down any one point as far as it can go. Get it snug and secure either all 4 points or at least 2 opposite corners. I've seen guys do one corner and keep cranking it while shifting the equipment. Obviously not a big deal with some equipment but better to keep everything centered if you can
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
well said-Thanks
@D3nn.s
@D3nn.s 3 жыл бұрын
The one chain two binders is what I do if it's small equipment. I live in Belgium 🇧🇪 so don't know about your rules, but I think it's safe.
@nwngunner
@nwngunner 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that if the load is over 10,000 pounds you are required to have 4 points of chain down, and a different chain or strap. The idea behind that is if one breaks you only loose 25% of your hold down not 50%. Also people need to use properly rated chain, is grade 70 of appropriate size for load. For my skidsteer I use 4 10,000 uscargo control black stripe 4" straps with chain hooks.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Yes- thanks for pointing that out.
@micheal4487
@micheal4487 3 жыл бұрын
I was told by a DOT officer if I remember correctly that it the machine is over a certain weight it has to have 4 point tie down. Usually larger excavators and heavy machines like that. Skid steers do not need 4 point tire downs. That’s in my area anyway. Good video Stan
@manny53o
@manny53o 3 жыл бұрын
The chain and binder rating has to match the weight of the machine. (4) 7k chains and (4) 7k binders can legally secure 56k worth of equipment.
@erichodges3043
@erichodges3043 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at Denver international airport. I went to receiving cargo to pick up the load for the airplane. Aircraft dollies have two locks on each corner eight locks total to keep your load from sliding off the trailer it's a quick system. The locks are only 2 in tall and yes sometimes the springs that hold the locks up and in place where out! We were running extremely late and I had minutes to get to my plane my boss was on my back to get there pronto! He got pissed when I got out of the tug and walked around and touched each lock eight locks four trailers that's touching 32 locks and making sure they're all secure 🔐 I had about a mile that I had to drive with the 80,000 lb load and a little 6,000 lb two wheel drive tug. I remind you if anything comes off your trailer you are responsible . On the airport it could be a $10,000 fine for your company or you yourself! I had to cross two sets of taxiways in the process and it was pretty rough one of the locks actually failed and the load started to shift forward and backwards between another dolly. And my boss was so pissed that I touched all those locks saw that that was happening and jumped on the forklift and started heading towards me! Everything was in slow motion I could not stop and I could not turn to prevent anything happening locks failed and on one corner the locks went down to the point where the trailer tilted and the skid of grapes fell to the ground in the middle of a taxiway ! Not a damn thing I could do but within minutes my boss scooped up the grapes put them back on the trailer tied the locks so that they would not fall down but the fact was the locks were secure in the first place! The week prior I had actually taken this trailer out of service for these reasons. Somebody tore up my red tag and threw it away! I told operations that I had red tagged this trailer week prior I do not know what happened to the company but I was in serious trouble never got fired for it I covered the bases and my boss even had to tell security / operations that I did double check before I left but still I was in a lot of trouble
@jrush5907
@jrush5907 2 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos they have helped me out so much with my own business. I’m now at the point that I want to buy a full-size skid steer and I was wondering if I will need a CDL license to pull it myself? Thanks!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
You need a CDL if your truck and trailer come in together over 26,0001 lbs
@brg9085
@brg9085 3 жыл бұрын
I had a new coworker that was working for a few fees already. We were going about 50 miles away down south to the gulf of mexico to do a walkway and small patio to relax around a very old 30 gravesite cemetery in Louisiana. This new coworker told the boss he knew how to drive a flat nose slt landscape truck with a flatbed on the back with a 30 foot gooseneck. I was out doing a different small job while they were loading up. I get back right when we had to leave. I followed them in my work truck. When pulling out of the shop, this guy did not turn off our companies road wide enough and put the gooseneck down in the 4 foot deep trench for the flooding. When I pulled up behind him, this guy didn't even try to chain down the bobcat and excavator that we haul on it. Bobcat bounced nearly off the side of the trailer while it fell in the trench. Excavator was the same thing. We finally pulled it out with help from our loader and other excavator. Our company mechanic fixed the tail lights. Checked the tires, etc etc. Boss fired the guy right there. I chained down both machines with all four points chained whatnot. I took the flatbed and gooseneck while the supervisor took my truck full of the pavers. We get down there and unloaded, when I unloaded we heard a big bang underneath. We looked and it was one of the axles completely snapped in half. I was mad, trailer could have broke while I was driving and could have made me wreck and yeah. Supervisor was pissed and the boss, when he found out, he went and found the guy and filed charges on him. Guy had to pay restitution to the company to get a new axle and repair it. Now the boss gets in every truck with a new employee and makes sure they can drive a certain truck with a certain trailer, etc etc. It's a fun company to be apart of. It seems like it's Alot like yours but 10 times bigger lol. Still fill like family.
@StevesBeyondRepair
@StevesBeyondRepair 3 жыл бұрын
Grrrrreat tips!!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@anthonyaubuchon765
@anthonyaubuchon765 2 жыл бұрын
You need hooks on your chains. The last way you chained is closest to right. Run your hook through the tie down point of your skid steer and down through the tie down point of your trailer. Then hook the chain to itself. Pull the slack of the chain tight hook your binder to that and the other end to the chain that's attached to the trailer. It's called short chaining and is DOT legal. Do the same thing with the other end of the chain to the other side. The center part of the chain should have plenty of slack. Now you only need two chains and four binders. And of course one strap for your attachment. That's doing it the legal way.
@masterbates7016
@masterbates7016 3 жыл бұрын
Stan when you did one chain one binder I'm the second setup for two points the better way to do it is one chain two binders it separates that one chain into two chains and it's a legitimate legal to point tie-down method you still need your other to tie down points obviously but you can use one chain with two binders and it makes it a lot faster
@snowblowerman5115
@snowblowerman5115 3 жыл бұрын
Here in NY the way you did the 2 binder one chain thing wouldn't fly. I got a ticket for it. Here you haft to have slack in between the two tie down points could do it that way and leave slack If you had a double hook chain is how we haft to do it.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
good to know- thanks
@mandeladams4793
@mandeladams4793 3 жыл бұрын
Two binders one chain, it's legal if each binder makes a separate chain to each attachment point, so the extra slack under the skid steer that makes up the rest of the one chain .doesn't count against you if you hook the binders on the inside of the tie down on the bobcat, segmenting one chain into two separate chains that would have to fail independently of each other. The one chain one binder will get you a ticket, fails to keep the equipment from side movement, 0.3 g force I think, better option, make two chains with the single one using the hook( d ring on trailer up to tie down ring on skid steer, hook as tight as possible) loop the rest of the chain through the tie down of skid steer to the trailer d ring place binder at the hook end and on the inside of the tie down on the skid steer, each chain is is own continuous loop.
@chrisschultz143
@chrisschultz143 3 жыл бұрын
I like to good check after I’ve drive a block or so. Make sure everything is still tight.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
smart
@vicpetrishak1077
@vicpetrishak1077 Жыл бұрын
Always lubricate light cord sockets . Die-electric silicone works well .
@CZAnthonyX
@CZAnthonyX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Stan! Happy Monday! Thanks for posting another fantastic video. I love the how-to videos! I have a question: I was watching some lawn care youtubers and one of them mentioned being licensed (I should mention that they also do landscaping). I was wondering what type of license was needed to be a landscaper? Also, do you need a license to mow lawns? Have a great week!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
That license sounds like more of a regional thing. We don't have a specific license to mow grass but in some cases when we are digging dirt we need to get a license to do excavation. Not landscaping but specificially excavation.
@HelenaOfDetroit
@HelenaOfDetroit 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like, with the 1 chain 2 binders method, it would be better to have the part of the chain that goes across the trailer in the back of the trailer and not under the equipment. This way, you could attach the chain and binders in such a fashion that the two ends of the chain act as two independent chains. The bit between them would be loose. This is better because if one breaks, you don't lose both connections.
@timtwing5886
@timtwing5886 2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it. If your transporting an excavator the boom and bucket have to be secured with a 5th chain along with your 4 point tie down. The boom is secured to the excavator so, even if your attachments are secured to your equipment pretty sure they would still need a chain.
@michelpicton8357
@michelpicton8357 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks stan!!
@jonespy9508
@jonespy9508 3 жыл бұрын
Dot in MN says 4 points of contact. My chains in the front I Hook up and then back the equipment up to tighten it. Then my back I run my chain and then use one binder like you did around the 4 minute mark. So 2 long chains, 1 binder, 4 points of contact on the trailer 4 points of contact on the equipment
@imchris5000
@imchris5000 3 жыл бұрын
4 wheel parking brakes would be a good addition to your work trucks they are not too expensive to install I put one in my personal truck
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought of that
@jsuperman7672
@jsuperman7672 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a nice Grunt style t shirt.
@grizzore
@grizzore 3 жыл бұрын
Hey stanley, i watch all of your videos and really love what you do. i started my own business at 23 and now am 24. im doing fairly well but would love to talk to you even if its just 10 minutes of your time. im not sure if thats possible but its worth a shot!
@roberthufcutjr603
@roberthufcutjr603 3 жыл бұрын
I think on the 1 chain 2 binders maybe hook the hook under equipment after its through the tie down point. Chain from side to side under motor should be loose. Binders cant pull on one another
@jeremiehoug2837
@jeremiehoug2837 3 жыл бұрын
Good video
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@midwestbd7144
@midwestbd7144 3 жыл бұрын
The last 2 ways are technically the same, each tie down point needs to be independent from the others to count, if one breaks it won’t affect the others.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
yes- good catch
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 3 жыл бұрын
4:55 that is illegal, but you can use 1 chain but you need 2 binders. The chain loops around so there’s 2 smaller loops and the center piece of chain between the binders has zero tension. 5:50 is also illegal but very close to being ok, it just needs to be grabbing the chain from after the tie down not before. That will make it so each tie down has its own piece of chain even though it’s connected.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@trevorfillmore698
@trevorfillmore698 3 жыл бұрын
I drive truck and run equipment for a living and I was going to say the same thing you did.
@tinkeringtrucker5196
@tinkeringtrucker5196 3 жыл бұрын
That depends on the weight of the item being secured. Under 10k at least two tie down are required, one front , and one rear, over 10k 4 tie downs are required, 2x front and rear or at designated tie down points. Additionally a bucket, or boom must also be secured. Per fmcsa section 3.8.2
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