still making fun of taekwondo are you, doesn't it ever get old, what you don't realize is that arts like karate and taekwondo, the way they are practiced now are not the way they were originally intended, things like karate blocks are not actually blocks and most of the movements and forms have been misinterpreted over the decades and what you see now is watered down and diluted.

​@@user-qd8wy2mc1ybrother has a lot of hate for tae kwon do. I don't even believe the title

exactly tkd kicks doesn't work in full contact fighting

@@user-eb2kv7bg4tthe do work just most TKD guys neglect to work on power. When they do they can be extremely effective.

​@@user-eb2kv7bg4tLol no

@@user-eb2kv7bg4t it does work, the guy probably practised WT style for olympics which has a strong restriction on "excessive" contact, if u were trained in ITF, your kicks would be stronger

Tae kwon do is a actually a good compliment for kickboxing

TKD + Boxing is a perfect match.

​@@meyes1098I recommend boxing for all Tkd fighters nice combo

​@@meyes1098las patadas de tkd no son lo suficientemente fuertes para llegar a ganarle a algún kickboxer o practicante de Muay Thai que está acostumbrado a recibir patadas

actually ITF TAEKWON DO is a complete TKD. WTF prejudiced this art

Cool!

Yeah, bjj does that to a lot of people. Can't tell you how common injuries are in bjj. Lots of knee and back injuries. Unless you want to do mma for money, I don't recommend bjj. Learn some good striking (sanda, muay thai, savate, sambo etc...) and you will be find in most self defense situations.

@@adim00lah The eye injury was from light boxing sparring with me. Insane freak stuff.

@@PerunaMuayThai Was the injury permanent?

@@adim00lah retina detached on a 20% punch that plopped his eye at just the right angle. No more martial arts or heavy lifting

Glad you like them! I got so much more!

If they did they'd probably stop doing TKD.

Yeah, and it isn't even the martial art's fault, it's the way it's taught (which in this case, i don't consider part of the art itself) And to be honest, someone that gets really, really good at kicking can go on without any hand techniques, i have seen it before, both in person and online, but you need to train properly, if you always barely spar and only do it under the Taekwondo ruleset, you ain't getting anywhere

Agreed, the hands always too low. Also, I don't see any back kicks from a TKD guy, why!?

@@jestfullgremblim8002 I somewhat agree with your point. As even MMA isn't necessarily MMA because of how its taught in some places.

Yes! Many do not even consider boxing as a legitimate martial art.

@@jestfullgremblim8002I agree if you ever watch old videos of TKD gyms they used to really emphasize powerful kicks a lot more

With good trainers and a lot of sparing it’s possible. Especially if you play spar like they do in Thailand a lot. It levels up your game fast.

The Muay Thai boy is truly a talent

Maybe he’s just a prodigy

It’s possible, some people have a fighting talent, you add that with good trainers it won’t take much time

You must try practicing Muay Thai with a Muay Thai teacher. Thailand welcome

Glad you like them!

they dont teach head movement, they dont teach how to punch, and they ESPECIALLY dont teach low kick offense/defense. major flaw

@@jkdfighter4964 Yep, exactly. I always found myself inventing things on the spot in TKD because it was so lacking. The kicks themselves are nice to have in the toolbox, but it's like I was saying to another guy on one of these videos, you could honestly learn everything useful out of TKD in less than a month.

@@jkdfighter4964 they dont teach catching kicks either

No yall both are wrong, as a taekwandoe practitioner we are taught to dodge its a common aspect of fighting. If you notice a lot of tkd fighters stay on they're toes and hop back a lot. This leaves a dodge and counterstrike available, and not too mention a lot of tkd involves parrying following restraint or disabling techniques like a shoulder dislocation or naturally thr non-sport version wed go right for yout throat after a parry or dodge. Joe rogan was an extreme lethal tkd fighter and there are so many more just like that or even more capable. Judging the whole sport by one singular amateur that im sure isn't even past his first 5 belts is very small minded. Theres tkd fighters that would take your head off without even needing to look at you. Most tkd fighters aren't 5'4 90 lbs Asian kids with no power, majority train they're legs, and could kick the jaw off yout face and land back in a stance faster then you could throw a jab.

@EthanHunt-zy3oq Not completely untrue but a little delusional. I know exactly what you're talking about because I've done all that. I've knocked guys out and even broke a dudes arm with a tornado kick, but TKD's effectiveness is situational at best. TKD's grappling component is straight out of a women's self-defense class. No takedown defense. No answer to being engaged on the ground. No leg kicks or leg kick defense. Additionally, if you don't have a wide open space to fight in, most of your kicks, distance management, and evasions are neutralized. If you're dealing with a solidly build dude with some wrestling or boxing, he's gonna truck into you and then you're fucked. And what if you're fighting more than one person? While you're throwing a kick, one guy catches it while the other one rushes in while you're on kne foot and tackles you down. Then what?? Joe Rogan fully acknowledged that he was getting lit up by kickboxers who managed to get in the pocket with him. Punches are always faster in combos than kicks. Don't get me wrong, I love TKD and blasting people with kicks, but it's got its time and place and a lot of holes to fill. Life isn't a movie.

never picking a street fight, and walking away is always the best option. but knowing some martial art is good for the worst case scenario. dude's a coward for pulling a knife, but anything can happen in a street fight 🤷

@@iLiekLemonade yes bro that is true. But during my younger years many of these coaches would sell their martial arts as a "practical self defense" even though tae kwon do is not a self defense martial art, instead it's a sport martial art. I totally believed I can handle the streets but I learned the hard way . I'm just happy I did not die on that encounter. I really hope these coaches would stop lying

If someone pulls out a knife run

@@lyfe_of_lai hahaha yes brother. That's what I should have done when I was young but sadly I got too scared to even move a muscle 🤣🤣🤣

TKD still good, but you need to fill in the gaps with other arts. TKD doesnt prepare you for street fights necessarily, but there's still some value. if you did TKD, but trained some boxing and muay thai you would be pretty set tbh. honestly TKD is great if it had some boxing techniques, some low kick offense/defense, and some clinches

Tkd loves keeping the hands down because of the way points are scored. The body is a much bigger target than the head and every kick to the body is worth at least two points and four if it’s a spinning kick. In a point sparring scenario protecting the bigger, less mobile target (torso) is far more important than protecting the smaller, harder to reach target (head)

Kicks also score higher than punches in Muay Thai. Of course if the match ends in a knockout that's moot.

Was thinking the same thing. Especially when the TKD kid is kicking

He didn't have to,the tkd guy keeped pacing back and giving him his back.

I've trained in Taekwon-do since 1982. In the early days of Taekwon-do it was bare knuckle fighting and there was a lot more body conditioning. It's not the art but the way you train. In my opinion when the WTF modified taekwondo to create this olympic style it weakened the art. The ITF taekwon-do uses both hands and feet while sparring and has remained more traditional.

They don't even use their kicks properly and that's what they focus more on LMAO To elaborate: they barely use leg kicks, which are very importan. Most of them do not set up their kicks properly and do not use feints. They usually lack power and do no condition their shins or feet properly. They kick with the feet while barefoot!!! You are only supposed to do that when wearing shoes, and even then the shin kicks pack more power. They don't try to destabilize their opponents with their kicks, they only hit them. They barely do knees, i know that i'm talking about kicking, but the close range substitu of kicks is kneeing your opponent, they should train it more!

@@jestfullgremblim8002with enough conditioning there is nothing wrong with kicking with the foot instead of the shin, there is advantages and inconveniences to both

In short, be less TKD, be more muay thai and boxing the 1st and 2nd best stand up styles.

Thanks I will do that

@@Muay-MMAidk about being more like this or that, just develop the art more. This will make it more effective and original

Korean people need to add muay thai to TKD to create something new. We have muay thai + boxing = dutch kickboxing. We have karate + muay thai = kyokushin. We also have kung fu + muay thai = sanda. We need another one for TKD.

we have a style called poomsae for it. Some random idiots use the sport taekwondo and sell them. poomsae has neck attacks, great punches, usefull kicks, usable combos.

Now that you mentioned it, I actually never saw TKD guy attacking other practitioners legs. They always aim head mostly.

@@DersNoNem they can actually do that but the coach would be pissed because it would not score any point 😅😅😅

@@whatepher1996 I was saying towards other than TKD practitioners. In TKD itself maybe not worth it.

@@DersNoNem oh apologies brother. I actually get what you mean but what I am trying to say was TKD guys practiced kicking all the other parts of the body besides the legs. So it's logical to say that a lot of TKD guys carried that habit even if they're sparring with other disciplines.

@@whatepher1996 tbh, TKD is a good add on if someone wants to compete in MMA. Yeah just like you said, it's a habit of them kicking someone other than legs. It's actually where the least expected to get hit.

That’s a cool analogy!

For self defense yes. But hey if you are a grandmaster of taekwondo you can probably beat beginner muay tai guys

@@GodzillathekingKongbane True. Individual skill will triumph in 1v1 regardless of style.

i know right.. totally agree with you.. he might be crossing over from other martial art. most people that trained muay thai 2day in a week, cant fight like that after 3 years.

Kid was good but not unbelievably good. A lot depends on natural ability, training frequency, and gym culture. Natural talent training 2-3 hours, 4-6 days a week in a gym with a lot of active fighters as training partners and former fighters as coaches can progress quickly.

@@jcmoral1978 then its not fair to mention "6 month" of training as its misleading..

@@TheGreatgan sure, that's a fair take. Edit: But it also highlights the cultural differences between the two arts. There are no forms or belts in Muay Thai. There is only training, (and for some) sparring, (and for fewer still) and fighting.

@@jcmoral1978 the most striking differences was what you mention before, people can n do train multiple time in a week without strict structure.. most karate n taekwondo had time schedule, you cant drop to train multiple time a week in most places.. but most muay thai gym, are open 6 day a week. People can come n train anytime they want. Also the training is much more private/personal. Taekwondo n karate has to follow group kata training before get to train their own syllables. And also the end goal for most aspiring student are not purely for fighting but winning point system tournament. I was in ITF dojo two decade ago, n my instructor was a special police, plus none of us in my school were interested to be a athlete.. so, i had a very different view of taekwondo in that time. I get really surprised when i met with a WTF athlete later in life. Their mindset n strategy was completely different.. their kick are stinging fast, but no serious damage. My front leg round house had more power than his back leg round house.

TKD guys usually spar a lot

its point fighting vs full contact fighting

​@@ThePurussaurusexactly

​@@elenchusnot all of them but yeah you're right. The way they spar in it's the problem hahaha

true

no

Depends on your age, taekwondo is better for kicking, but most taekwondo schools (like 90%) are designed for kids, and "adult clases" have 15 years olds as their oldest students, so you might feel weird and have problems finding a good partner to spar. Muay thai is better in that regard because it is more oriented to adults

@@mexicobasado8177 thankyou friend

Great comment!

@@FightCommentary Thanks, I enjoy your content. You always provide good insights and comments about the fights and the fighters.

yeah probably he did muay thai for 5 months

I agree. MT coach should have at least given the TKD guy a standing 8 when he started turning his back.

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