it's probably happened somewhere sometime

It is not the power ist traction

@@reneelenaerts4465 it is also power, these engines can have 25hp at 900+ lbft torque

@@gtb81. I think you’re off by a couple thousand ftlbs there bud

@@SirSpinalColumn just looked back on it, it was about 5k lbft sorry bout that

Similar to Electric engines

Or a 12v 5.9 Cummins 😂

@@mitchellbrown2233 Electric pulls more current under load and create more resistance when slowed down to the point of near pure short circuit meaning they are limited to the source of power even when it is a wire unlike steam engines or just boiling water that has no way to escape forms explosive pressure that is going to escape one way or the other the only limiting factor is the cylinder walls and is not the heat source..

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That is neat. Look at the Dyno Data, the torque at the start is near infinite numbers!

lol thanks for the laugh.

Good one

While i admit this is a funny comment there is actual danger when it a steam engine goes on an incline or decline see in the firebox and boiler their is a crown sheet which separates the fire tubes and firebox from the water. If the engine goes on an incline all the water comes towards the driver on a decline it goes towards the front of the boiler this is dangerous because of the potential for a boiler explosion if the crown sheet gets to hot and the water suddenly goes back over it the metal will rapidly cool making it brittle When it turns brittle all that steam pressure you built it will quite simply kaboom

@@trainfan-ks5hk that's a fair point, but remember these are tractors designed for plowing fields. Not smooth rails with little elevation change

All of it!

The most powerful thing in the world nature wind, water and temperature.

just like a tesla, they both need to steam to run. 😎

@@mandytroxel8103 lol

Thanks for praising this British invention.

Patented in the 1890 by a California grain farmer and inventor named Daniel Best, the steam tractor was originally designed to replace teams of draft horses in the fields, but it soon became popular in the timber and mining industries as a means of transporting heavy loads.

@@steambom3350 Yeah!! I think they pulled the whole farm around with that tractor.

Legend has it they used these to change the course of rivers.

steady gets the job done

Build back when nine miles per hour was considered break neck speed.

First one ive ever seen, i never though possible!

Throttle control, with an expert operator!

Can you say it again in English?

I dont know whats worse, the spelling or the fact ive seen the same comment on other steam tractor pull videos word for word lmao

@Brock Main3 the

788ftlbs of torque not including any gear reduction

and its gear reduced like 30 to 1, so, it a literal buttload of torque.

John, at what rpm ? i know every stroke is a power stroke so max power must be low

i did 30 hp@ 200 rpm that equals 788 then lets say it is geared down to 30-1 like they say that would be 1900 max ft lb of torque @ 6rpm

Your math it's a bit off. 788 times 30 is a bit more than that

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Steam expands. It also goes through a phase change. So what you are saying isn’t necessarily correct.

@ In the older machineries hand books, they show how to calculate the horse power of a spinning flywheel. But, you are right. Top dead center and bottom dead center can be a bugger. But most single cylinders are double firing.

@ Most Steam tractors had double acting piston at this age.

Was this at wauseon?

It was pretty obvious he was playing around, He could have pulled a few more of those sleds.

Hope it's not true but if it is heads up when one door closes another opens maybe something better around the corner waiting for you.

Hope your doing ok man.

@@jamesthemotormaniac2807 _you're_ not "your"

Its stretching its legs

I know right?! LOL

Uh.... horsepower is torque over time. And all torque is is force times distance. With enough gearing you could make a 1.5L engine out of a Honda Fit produce more torque than this tractor... it would just be very...... very..... _very_ .... slow. The engines I run have well over 3000 lbs of torque each. But it’s the over 1000 shaft horsepower a side that accelerates it down the runway until it reaches 125 miles an hour in a matter of seconds, then leap off the runway and still _accelerate_ to 200 MPH as it’s climbing a _16 PERCENT_ grade! Then level off above half the atmosphere and accelerate again to 350 miles per hour. This tractor can’t do any of that. Even if you figured out really really really tall gearing for it because the frictional losses would be far too high. It needs most of that low gearing just to move _itself._ But my engines have been used for all manner of purposes. They’re used for helicopters that sling huge loads. They’ve been used to power locomotives. They’ve been used for sports cars, race cars (until they were banned), snow plows, gen sets, etc So no... torque doesn’t rule. And when your time is valuable you want power, too. The Tesla has power in spades (a watt is a measurement of power and is volts times amps and is what actually makes the Tesla move).

not tesla

Torque means nothing if it's not moving something.

Actually, a Nuclear Reactor wouldn't make it any more powerful - it's just another way of generating the steam! You wouldn't have to refuel it for about 5 years, but . . . .

Bruce Roger Morgan also cool it constantly for those five years. ;)

SSDeathstar, yes, you'd have to do that too, you can't really turn them off!

@@brucerogermorgan2388 you can slow a nuclear reactor to near-stop though

@@crestfallensunbro6001 Yes, you can slow it down, but the cooling system must remain operational no matter how slow the reaction is, or you will end up with a melt-down.

There's also a slogan for any little 2-8-0 consolidation locomotive. "Pulling impressive loads at unimpressive speeds." At that time, it was the best balance of locomotive weight, tractive effort and power. Then theres the 2-8-2 with bigger firebox. This only increased the speeds of this wheel arrangement but still retaining the impressive pulling power. 2-6-x locomotive lacks the tractive effort but can go ridiculous speeds with very large drivers. 2-10-x has excessive tractive effort and limited turning radius.

@@kimpatz2189 Thanks for keeping this kind of information alive. A few days ago, my wife told my sister that I'm a trainiac. I guess I haven't posted my favorite comment about steam engines on this thread: A friend of the author of a book on the subject written a half century ago wrote and introduction to the book: "When we were young men, it seemed to us that nothing could stop these marvelous machines - steam ships and steam locomotives - not hell or high water. Then we got to thinking 'That's what makes them go - hell and high water.' "

Who's engine was that? Couldn't tell

Big Boy for me ..... EVERY TIME! Jim from AU

Different works... the big boy was made to carry heavy and long, the flying Scotsman to provide a fast service. Its like comparing a shinkansen to an alco.

We Aussies did ok, in my state Victoria,we had(still have, rusting away in a museum..) heaviest non articulated loco in southern Hemisphere, H220.We also had the lovely S class pacific's which were 3 cyl like the flying scotsman, they were marvelous engines, all 4 scrapped rather secretively in the 50's. They ended their lives with gorgeous streamlining.Some other states had some decent sized Garrets (AD60) as well.Some of our later engines are also rather nice, the R class Hudsons very much so, stoker fed and running roller bearings.Many years ago i was lucky enough to experience a main line cab ride at speeds approaching 80mph,which was a seriously rare thing because at that time (now maybe even less) they were supposed to do no more than 80kmh! If you like locos, check out the ones i mentioned above if you are unaware of them. Flying Scottsman is a marvelous machine, i road behind her in the 80's when she visited us.I spent much time talking to one of the drivers(Barry Dunn IIRC but it was a long time ago) many years after the event and he said it was the finest constructed loco he'd ever driven, very sensitive regulator compared to our local stuff, first time he opened it he induced a massive wheelspin, even though he was being very careful!

Hate to break it to you but many American steam locomotives were capable of matching a LNER Class A3 4472 such as the Milwaukee Road class F7.

Big boy is where it’s at

It can go much faster, but pulling it off the ground with that kind of torque at that speed and weight would most likely be the end of the machine, the people around it, and then end of steam engines being used for recreational and educational use.

Yes Sir!!

Also when they failed the explosion is alot more devastating.

​@@GrumpyIanthat has more to do with 1890s safety culture than a design flaw. We use much more powerful steam engines today without that same fear of exploding.

Nice! I was privileged to be a guest onboard Cheyenne in this year's Tug Boat race! What great fun! I have a video of the race here on my channel.

The larger ones were actually called "road locomotives."

This is where our farm tractors come from and then our semi trucks. It was horse, then train, then steam tractor, then normal farm and tractors and semis

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+Luckystrike You are right... but my good friend Jim is a skilled engineer and likes to put on a good show! There's no feeling like pulling the sled out the end with a steam engine! I've done it many times and it never gets old.

here are 2 factors:the gear reduction 30:1 says and fo2 200 rpm the torque is approx 100kgr.m at the wheels is 3000 kgr.m

Farmall Doctor ok

@@nomon95 how do you know that is torque? Do you know piston diameter, stroke legnth, steam pressure, valve size, is it double acting, single acting, steam pipe size, flywheel weight, governor setting? All of these affects torque in a dig way. For steam pressure. An example. You will get more torque from 100psi then 50psi. You have know idea what the torque is.

@@timesthree5757 yes y know how is torque.

You won't bate stame !!!! 💪😄 Love these old Engines !

Especially the early years with exploding boilers, shearing rivets at mach speed and boiler cracks that blasted the skin off your face with high temperature and pressure steam. Gotta love it.

Jay Leno has a few videos about steam powered cars. If I recall in one he said the car made something like ~90 horsepower and ~1000 footpounds of torque.

@@GrumpyIan 💞 Lovely oldies Bless them 🌹✋

No. Steam is still used in power generation for coal, oil, and nuclear plants. Truth is these power plants were too limited for ships (which swapped to steam turbines, gas turbines, and diesels), too labour intensive for railroad (which swapped to diesels and electric), too heavy for aircraft (a few early attempts were steam powered but gasoline internal combustion engines and then gas turbines had far better power to weight ratios), and too slow for cars... nobody wanted to get up at 2am to stoke the fire to keep their boiler going so they could leave for work at 8. Even in the farm industry. These were slow. The 10 or so minutes a farmer spend starting the pony motor and warming up the diesel must have seemed like a luxury compared to what it would take to get one of these going from a cold start.

The sensor would have to be Chuck Norris as a strong enough force gauge hasn't bee invented yet

You'd run out of measurable Newtons.

Yes they have kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iLWmatp8q8uZcoE.html

Yes they have, some guys rebuilt a 150hp case engine and put it on the dynamo. It read 6000 lbs-ft of torque on the flywheel. Add a 20:1 or a 30:1 gear reduction and you can get some scarry numbers.

and probably a fully grown oak tree with it

Can't speak about the American engines, but plenty if not most of the big English traction engines are compound twins. This is where the exhaust steam from the smaller high pressure cylinder is then sent to the larger low pressure cylinder. It is not only more efficient in re-using the steam & eliminating dead centres, so the engine can start from any cylinder position, but it also allows the use of a sampling valve to send full boiler pressure to both cylinders when more power is required for short periods. An English traction engine called Boadicea, has pulled a weight of 145 tons uphill just using compound working. Working simple, which she has never been challenged enough to use, she could comfortably pull 250 tons.

Yes there are two cylinder models out there that function similar to the big boy locomotive.

Yes there were twin cylinder engines. However the most common was one cylinder seen here in the video. The twin cylinders were considered 'Heavy duty" because they couldn't be stalled out like the singles. The reason for this is because the singles have a chance to be caught on dead center, whereas the twins cannot because the cylinders are set so that one always has power going to the wheels.

Everybody just wants to see high speed Million $$$ machines at the big pulls now. But yes, they would win every time.

The down side of a steam engine is that it's slow, massive, heavy, it takes an hour or two to stoke the fire and generate steam to get up to operating condition, and you have to shovel the coal and manage the fire constantly. Gasoline and diesel are much more convenient, which is why they replaced steam engines for general use early in the 20th century (plus the average farmer doesn't need enough torque to pull a barn for most of what he does). It's like switching from elephants down to clydesdales to pull a plow. That said, I love watching steam engines whether in trains or tractors. Beautiful!

These are more or less shown at the end or during a break in the full event as a show piece.

Steam Engines have 100% Torque at zero RPM.

Hp is just a calculation of torque by rpm. The up figure is low on a traction engine because they run really low rpm. The figure that really matters its torque.

And by god do steam tractors have torque....

Wauseon

Back then it would have just been a series of explosions. Safety was a voluntary thing.

redcarpetlounge American abell 28hp