I agree. I think that's the only think I absolutely hate with old gear. You turn them on and one day the power supply is gone. That just happened yesterday with my old TC Fireworx. So much messing around with everything except making music or sounds.

@@ThePlughugger Ha, same problem I'm having with my TC Fireworx too. Ugh. Great video, thanks!

@@ErikHawk Yeah reading about it, it really seems it's a very common problem. I really want it back so I sent mine for repairs to the official TC repair service in Germany.

I hear ya man. I have been playing guitar for 50+ years, then bass, then keys, then drums... I never even considered buying a synth until I saw a used Behringer TD-3 for like $50. I had no idea they had gotten so cheap. So now synths are my new hting. It's great. 62 years old and music has taken on a whole new chapter for me.

yes. and owns a city in a very democratic country. only a few synth / pedal companies were swept up in the process or died. no one can argue against the appeal of the lower line. its great to have physical acess to unobtainiums again. their behaviour in the market was errr…mostly friendly… hard to stick to my principle of bying B stuff only used.

Behringer achieves this by blatently copying any existing synths, basically killing decent, small manufacturers who still do their own R&D instead of stealing. This is not the dawn of synths, this is the end. This is not democracy, this is autocracy. Bow to Uli and ask for some more cheap plastic ripoffs with a very short life expectancy! None of these will be inherited by your kids.

Sorry but synths were affordable then, now what Behringer does is sell on mass, throw away garbage that isn't really environmentally helpful. Tell me how many synths from the 80s still exist, and then in 40 years come back and tell me if you can find any Behringer gear still functional. It wont be pretty for Behringer.

​​@@dankeplacei was there and it wasn't affordable for me, I could buy 1.5 used cars for the price of the synth I wanted. And then what did you get. Mono timbral. One sound at a time. If you translate the price to today's basically its 3X. So the synth I wanted would be $6900 today. The 303 was $500. $1500 today Td-3 is $149 today. Thats 90% off. That's awesome

I know that feel.

Right?

More synths to sample! :)

I know, Ive been collecting volcas like theyre pokemon and these look just as interestig.

Good point!

It will happen

Yeah this is all really exciting but i fear 90% is vaporware.

Seemly, at the low rate I'm able to build my little moving studio racks, al those Synths will be on the market, and the choice is so, more hard, it takes me time to listen videos where the artistic side is expressed in a way I can know they are my instruments. Actuall, from Behringer, I have the Deepmind 12D, a great expander that can use integrated effects and a machine matrix, and I'm very pleased with that. My next will be mono expanders, kobol, wasp, first, and here I've seen few others I would love to be in store, because of their particular designs. More, some poly expanders I stand for, makes me in trouble, as I Have to build my wood racks, with some expander that will not feat eurorack format, so need me to find very adaptable rack designs (like bying two B2600, or hoping for an UBxa expander, or dimanteling one to keep also the Poly aftertouch kb, and integrate in a vertical rack the pannel. How ever this is the project I have when I will have the money to buy the B monoply, and the B SH5. So question about time, money, hoping all that will be avaible in stores, along😮 2025, in hard times we are.❤

In the leaks I saw, Behringer are referring to the clone as a "homage", and he will be 3/4 size of the original Uli.

Never knew you could clone dog shit.

@@rodrigodelprat and will be monophonic

It will have an enjoyable aftertouch.

@@rodrigodelprat with 90% of the sound of the real uli, but added functions like extra limbs and midi on his neck

Thanks!

How is it?

How on earth did you get the MS5 this early???

Sweetwater still waiting on them here in the States. Happy for you though buddy

Those are actually really good ideas.

Well, If it never sees the light of day, i heard Paul from PWM say the new Mantis has some similarities

​@@aopaulHad a go on it at Synth East (cheers Robin!). It's a diabolically evil sounding little beast

@@ben1210 I was on the fence about it before... but, holy smokes, the demos recently show just how versatile it is! Definitely on my wish list now.

The filters are clonable, but the oscillators are not, and they are a big part of the magic.

@@aopaul Yeah, I think especially the filter.

no you are not alone i love what behringer is doing sure smaller company will suffer but hey it competition and good for use consumers

KInd of how generic drug companies make the same drugs cheaper once they're off patent. Behringer just has to be different enough that the only impediment would be already-expired patents.

You are far from alone. I go back in the Synth world a long time. I owned an ARP 2600 in 1972, then a Mini Moog in ‘73 and lots more throughout the years. What Behringer is doing is outstanding. I too am a realist and don’t really care about absolute direct comparisons. At one point I owned 2 ARP 2600’s and they were not identical. I played several Mini Moogs simultaneously in the 70’s and not any of them were identical. Those folks who are constantly trying to knock Behringer because “it doesn’t sound like the original” are clueless

I dont understand? If you dont need aftertouch, and not have to be perfect, why you want cs80?

No you are not! Uli Behringer has his solicitors to protect him with law. He is not stupid. This ( Behringer haters) is an age whereas the hardware synth is in comeback. Millions are now wanting to rediscover hardware synthesis ( learn it and to relive it all.) The ultimate synths ( in their time) are now old and electronic components are failing...thus Er ... ( Serviced!!! ????) Here we have Uli recreating these very much loved synths with brand new components and even ( extras) the originals never had..( MIDI)..and even more. Still...the haters have to winge because they have already spent thousands on " the real thing". The haters need to " get real" to whats happening now and just how many alternatives Behringer have to offer. We are in a society now that concludes the majority do not have the means to assemble " The real thing". Uli Behringer gives us the " Real thing". What the heck do you want? Are you jealous of a successful businessman?...that provides what we want? " If you are successful you will lose friends and at the same time gain enemies ...be successful anyway" Mother Teresa

Really looking forward to it's release

So in other words you need to buy cheap synths because you buy 8K worth of subs, that your channel barely is able to get 100 views per vid? Yes makes sense now.

@@dankeplaceI can’t afford to buy an OBX-8, a Prophet-5 or a Moog ONE, does that make me a tosser as well??

@@titovalasques no, just your post does.

I'm a hater BUT it will force the REAL brands of synths to make them cheaper. So thx Behringer! I'll buy the real stuff only!

@@dannymolns3573 It wont force anyone to do anything, and it hasn't. I remember when some Pizza joints, 3 within 100 meters of each other, 1 started making them for $5, he lasted maybe 6 months and went out of business, the other 2 are still there, 15 years after that feeble attempt to drive business to himself, which only drove him out of business. It just was not sustainable. People complain about Moog not paying a livable wage, but want Moog gear to be cheap, which is it, support your workers, or screw them?

atleast proton is orignal or wait is it is it a clone of neutron :D

@@frallorfrallor3410 It is an original for sure :-) but even if it was a clone of a classic, I'd still like it, as the original classics are very hard to get at ridiculous prices, Behringer is bringing this into range of many more people. I fully support their efforts, as much I'd love to own the original classics, I know that's probably never going to happen, so this will solve the issue.

The Neutron is awesome. Looking forward to completing the nucleus in the near future. Perhaps there will be an Electron as well?

@@johnvcougar lets hope so, I have a Neutron, and waiting for the Proton to go along side it.

Mini does mean no space for a user interface but it isn't that bad. My main complaint with the JT-4000 is its lack of a MIDI connection and a battery. Two things Roland put in their compacts.

How would you describe the difference?

Mine to

Thanks. And yes... I completely forgot about the Model 15. I actually thought it was out in the shops already.

@@ThePlughugger no worries man thanks for getting back to me. Yeah it's in production alright will be out early December can't wait to get it.

Sometimes these huge times between the reveal and when you actually can buy it is good. It gives you time to think and see what you really need.

Same here, plus the Spice and the Enigma.

Wasn't Hiroaki involved with the Monotribe at all? Huh... maybe I got them mixed up.

I can see it in my crystal ball. Behringer vs Roland in court! :)

That is unlikely. The margins would be unworkable.

I suspect there will be quite a queue for that one. If it does ever appear.

@@SpeccyMan Yeah, if ever!

I thought it was already available in the shops?

@@ThePlughugger pre order only

@@floyd101954 Damn. Then I missed to include the Model 15.

@@ThePlughugger no big deal, just thought that I may have missed seeing it in your video. I have one on Preorder with Sweetwater. I know they are going to sell out fast as soon as the dealers receive them.

Please, tell me more about the Monotribe - I always overlooked that thing. Maybe I'm making a big mistake here?

The Behringer Mini Orchestra?

Thanks for a great comment!

This is why when you do make something electronically more compact, you lose the essence of the original. Also the UBXa is based on the OBX, which sounds less inviting than the otehr Oberhiems. Like you said, more voices doesn't make it better, the Teo 5 sounds much thicker and pleasant, but that has a lot to do with the SEM filter too. They're both priced very similar, but they just sound so much different. Personally I don't think you need so many voices when the issue is weak oscillators to begin with.

@@dankeplace Bingo. Pull apart any synth a Behringer clone is based on and compare it to the Behringer clone. Sure some sound close, but some are far apart from the original. When you buy a UB-Xa you’re getting a very nice 16 voice polysynth at a great price that you can undoubtedly make music on but you are not getting an Oberheim.

@@ktreier the keybed was one of the biggest off putting features for me, it has almost zero wight to it. The Teo 5 has a reputable FATAR keybed, same as my Pro 3 and Take 5. Artuia have so so keybeds too, even their flagship PB12 has issue, uneven keys. My Pro 2 isn't as nice as my Pro 3, but it is far better than any Behringer offering that's for sure. Quality, not quantity is the game here.

No two "originals" will be exactly alike!

A Deepmind with a faster interface would be fantastic.

@@ThePlughugger Agreed :-)