#33 Fixing auxiliary air valve and idling problem Mercedes 107 450 SLC, D-JET

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In this video I work on the 1975 Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC with engine M117 and Bosch D-jetronic fuel injection. The idling was very rough and uneven, but after taking the air valve apart and cleaning it, the engine ran much better.
I don't claim this to be an instructional video. It's just me working on my own car and showing what I did.
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@Amade1756 3 жыл бұрын

OMG! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING!!! We are having a similar issue with our 74 450SL!!!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Amade 1756! Thank you so much for watching and for the nice comment! Good luck with the 450 SL. I hope it works out for you. /Peter

@jin-suchoi2517 2 жыл бұрын

What a gorgeous sound from this V8 4.5 liter engine. Oh my goodness...!!

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely 👍 //Peter

@tonyreyes9969 3 жыл бұрын

So the problem was the auxiliary air valve was stuck wide open resulting into a very lean air and fuel mixture during warm-up phase. Job well done, your video was very clear. Thanks for posting.

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Well, I guess so. I'm not sure if this was the whole problem, but the car runs a lot better now. Thank you very very much for watching and commenting!

@bearsrodshop7067 3 жыл бұрын

Putting it in a pan of boiling water (120f /100c) for 8-10 mins. Try this next time, works without any damage to housing. Also works to dismatel seized older brake pistons.

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your input, Bears Rod Shop! I actually tried the boiling method before dismantling and filming, but it didn't work in my case.

@marcpollard8792 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to make that high-quality video, I will take mine off because I’m having a similar problem on my 3.5 L V8 now, thanks again!

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marc! Very nice to hear. Good luck with your project 👌👍 //Peter

@MetaldetectingFriesland 3 жыл бұрын

Great instructional video! Glad to see you've solved the problem!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin!

@deboeier7283 Ай бұрын

Excellent Job❤

@Pexyz 2 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

@honguenloh4612 3 жыл бұрын

Love the new radio cover too...very nice!:)

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I like it too. Big difference.

@20e_arhundradets_rav 3 жыл бұрын

Nice and clear, once again!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@honguenloh4612 3 жыл бұрын

Love the sound effect...so cute & interesting like watching those old silent cartoons...keep up the good work!:)

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again, I'm glad you like my work.

@h-a-milli4531 3 жыл бұрын

You have given me the courage and confidence to dismantle my air slide valve w109. Thanks

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your nice comment H-A-Milli! I hope it turned out alright for you. Congrats to a very nice car, a W109!

@h-a-milli4531 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pexyz Hi Pexy, thank you. W109 is in bits at the moment and I am struggling slowly to put it together. Tell me is the air slide Valve supposed to close off completely on 3.5 v8

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

@@h-a-milli4531 I'm not sure, sorry. Good luck with your project! Just take it piece by piece and you'll make it.

@anderssimonson1431 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work! Looks so easy when you do it.

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Anders! Everything looks easy in a movie ;)

@brandonmullins7406 2 жыл бұрын

You have no idea how helpful this video is. Ive been trying to figure out whats goin on with my 74 450se w116 for tooo long. Im gonna try this and hopefully it helps

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Brandon👌👍. I hope it will help on your car too. Good luck with your project! //Peter

@FrancePhil44 3 жыл бұрын

Great job !

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil!

@jaxs2384 2 жыл бұрын

I have a jag V12. Bosch D jetronic. The same parts and system Thanks for informative video

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for watching! 👌 //Peter

@moeramz Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@krakluaroo 3 жыл бұрын

Nice car!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kraklu!

@mikeparrysatwat 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Sir

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Garyf 👍 //Peter

@fredricholst5362 2 жыл бұрын

Mycket bra förevisat, 👌🏽

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Stort tack Fredrik! Roligt att höra 👍 //Peter

@IanStacker 6 ай бұрын

thank you , great video

@Pexyz 4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@armandorua-fernandez2681 3 жыл бұрын

Great video 👍🏽👍🏽

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Armando! //Peter

@comighiasi3683 3 жыл бұрын

nicely done thank you i learned

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Comi Ghiasi!

@ejtomero7720 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate this video! I´ve got 450SE w116 with same engine. The problemn ist that its very difficult to find certain parts for the engine. Everything needs to be fixed of its own. Please make more videos of this D-jet! Thanks!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks EJ Tomero! I'll try to do that. I hope it works out with your 450 SE. /Peter

@hardyathygesen7925 3 жыл бұрын

Great love it!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hardy! Very nice to hear! /Peter

@dragantrujic9392 11 ай бұрын

Bravo

@Pexyz 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Dragan 😀👍

@josehumbertocontrerascarri594 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. I Could fix my car doing exactly what you did.

@Pexyz Жыл бұрын

Very nice to hear 👍

@sg5127 10 ай бұрын

Super job, did you fit a new gasket before you refitted the air slide valve? I didn't see, but they're easy to cut from gasket paper if you don't have one.

@Pexyz 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes I think I did 👍

@IGGICAFF Жыл бұрын

Thank you my slc350 had the same problem

@Pexyz Жыл бұрын

Thanks, nice to hear 👍

@pasifsc 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work. I had the same idling problem with my 1971 350SL M116 engine and D-jetronic. I took the easier way to solve the problem and put a plastic plug with 8 mm hole in it inside the upper rubber hose. And now it idles steady 800 rpm. Of course this would cause a problem when trying to idle car in winter temps but I only use it summer time so it is no issue for me. Maybe I´ll try your way to fix it properly later.

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Nice trick. I'm glad it worked for you! Thanks for watching 👍 //Peter

@annahopp Жыл бұрын

Same issue as with the Jaguar XJ-S V12. Just more space in the engine compartment.

@Pexyz 11 ай бұрын

Yes, I think many cars with D-jet can have the same problem 😀👍

@Danny-sy8xj 3 жыл бұрын

Great 👍 video I love watching your videos. I have a duel Zenith carburetor and its high on idling. Would you happen to have any tips on fixing this issue? I have a 1970 250C Mercedes Benz.

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Danny, very nice to hear! I'm far from an expert on these carbs, but I know that the acc linkage can cause problems if axles joints and springs are seized or not mounted properly. Otherwise maybe you should check the nozzles. Greetings /Peter

@MetaldetectingFriesland 3 жыл бұрын

Looking back at this video, I think this may be the problem that I'm having with my recently newly bought w116 280SE, after changing the injector seal rubbers, the intake manifold gaskets and some rubber hoses it still idles kind of the same like this, but it's performing great under load!

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks! Great if this can be helpful to you too. //Peter 👍

@Alexander-zf9ti 3 жыл бұрын

This is huge thanks. My dad has one exactly like yours with the same problem. A Chevy mechanic said it might have been a valve problem, but I will try this first. Where do you get your filters from for oil and fuel?

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alexander! Very very nice to hear. I guess you should be able to order the filters at some local parts store. Otherwise you can get them from your MB dealer. They're not very expensive. I usually buy my filters from a local parts store. Good luck with your project! /Peter

@samuelrobbins7972 2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful video. About to do this for my newly-acquired ‘78 450SLC. Where did you find that radio cover?

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Samuel 👍. I found the cover on Ebay.uk. Sometimes you're just lucky 😁. Godd luck with your new project //Peter

@marcosortolani3639 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and congratulations for the work! One question: I am renovating an MB D-jet 280SE 6 cyl, 1976, which had been idle for 20 years. It works very well, but it loses power on the way up, coming to a stop. I already changed, candles, cables, coil, exhaust and the problem persists. What can it be?

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Marcos! Hard to say what the problem is on your car, but one idea in continuing the troubleshooting would be to connect a fuel pressure gauge to the feed line. That way you might be able to see if you lose pressure. Otherwise it may still be on the ignition side. /Peter

@marcosortolani3639 3 жыл бұрын

The idle pressure is 2 bar. It may be that on the way up the pressure drops. I will try to read the pressure gauge on the way up, to check if the pressure drops. Thanks!

@pitman4121 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video, just bookmarked in my W108 folder. Is this the same removal/install procedure for the M117 in 1972 280se 4.5

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, nice to hear. Yes, the procedure should be the same as long as you have the D-Jetronic fuel injection 👍 Greetings //Peter

@pitman4121 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pexyz Thank you Peter.

@maazzafar9442 3 жыл бұрын

Was it rough under driving too while it had a rough idle? I have a w126 500sel with the same issue. Car runs and idle rough with no power until it heats up fully. Car also has no catalytic converter delete, can that cause the issue?

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

My car ran rough only when idling. I guess your 500 has a different engine and another ignition system than mine. Unfortunately I don't know enought about them to give you proper adivce. Thanks for watching and good luck with your car!

@user-ls8rl3mo8e 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Pexyz, I have a 73 450 SLC. I think mine has a different fuel pump. Any idea? Thank for for you expertise

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Luke and thank you very much for watching 👌. Your fuel pump might look different, but the function should be the same. Your car is quite early and the look of the pump may vary between model years or if it's been replaced sometime during the years. //Peter

@euc131 2 жыл бұрын

Great video = saved yourself a few hundred dollars on the new part...

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Yes it's always nice to manage to repair instead of buying new parts 👍

@jndeprez4362 3 жыл бұрын

The problem is the temperature sensor (the copper-coloured housing/inside), these things wear out with age.

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks JN DEPREZ

@lukalucin787 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, im having problems with my 79 450 slc, car starts when hard on gas pedal, runs in the high rpm, dies immediately when i lift my foot off the gas pedal, wont start again unless you clean the spark plugs which get all wet

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to say, but maybe you have problems with the cold start valve? Unfortunately I'm not very familiar with the injection system you have in your '79. K-Jet i think. Greetings //Peter

@pierre-charlesbeuclair9308 2 жыл бұрын

Hy! I have the same issue but when the engine is cold. When it become hot the engine stop, it could the same mechanic failure then you?

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to say what your problem could be. Maybe you should check the ignition coil and the injection pressure regulator. Greetings //Peter

@pierre-charlesbeuclair9308 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pexyz if you want, I can show you some video of the evolution of that issue?

@mariobistiak9580 3 жыл бұрын

Jeg har nesten samen problem med mine w107 450 1974 d-jet. Jeg vil styrte også "trigger point"

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Mario! Yes, I know the trigger point can be an issue too. We'll see if my problem returns.

@tomzouzoulas3169 3 жыл бұрын

Did u have to put in a new gasket?

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

I used Permatex silicone sealant. Thanks for watching, Tom!

@tomzouzoulas3169 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pexyz Keep up the great video content. Really enjoy watching your videos from Canada

@user-ls8rl3mo8e 2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know where to find this part?

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Luke, thanks for watching 👌 I'll check if the valve is available and let you know. //Peter 👍👍

@Pexyz 2 жыл бұрын

Hello again Luke. Unfortunately the valve is no longer available. You'll have to search for a good used one. Greetings //Peter

@supersolex 3 жыл бұрын

i think at first it runs high rpm on the chocke

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it runs high on the cold start valve

@MrFlyingguy 3 жыл бұрын

Yes...l

@Pexyz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks MrFlyingguy //Peter