But that's journalism for you !

​@@aljaliah6868 tH4t tEh jErN41lzM 4 y4!

Info Blast yeah I have to say I can see what Jay is getting at with some of his comments but I found it a bit irksome just how much he was desperate to hate this car. Things might have been different if he drove to its strengths.

How about the OEM clutch life with all these mods? Does it wear out if using Launch Control any more often than 1-2 times per year?

@@Gadne92.5 clutch will be fine, but as with anything it won't last forever especially if you are putting more power through the stock/oem clutch, which will reduce its life span. You can get reinforced clutch plates to help with this. Stock car you can do launch control all day every day.

Maybe if it had a decent manual transmission it would be better received.

@@inSUBout The clutch has proven to be durable and good for this hp and torque but at the limit. There is a Kevlar replacement clutch set available. There is no way you are going to do launch control all day every day....with a 4C or any car. You beat the living hell out of the trans and differential. I have a modded 4C but the car is NOT a drag car. I do have a friend that drag raced his highly modified 4C with similar power to this one...did a total of over 60 Launches before something finally went....think it was 3rd gear. He also tracked that car nearly every weekend in 3 seasons of the year. By the way.....the 4C even with ECU upgrade shifts fine....the race version from AW has been fine tuning the shifting....updates are done through the internet. And it was as mentioned in this video....a little bit too harsh which would not be good on track. That is not an issue with a 4C...only on this race ECU but it is being addressed by AW.

The Elise sounds better. The 4c sounds a bit flat especially with the auto box.

Mister Nobody 😂😂😂yeah right

no way...dudes,,,yo d manhole bro

What mods to get 340 hp?

4c needs a Ferrari 458 engine.

Better than a Mister2 thats for sure

Couldn't agree more, to look at it's such a pretty car

Na is just out of the question now a days and manuals just don't sell. As sad as it is and as much as I would love a manual 4c, they probabaly did what would sell best while meeting reqs Edit: busso 3.2 manual mid engine though would have been dope even if it is a 40 y/o engine design

@@eskamobob8662 Yeah but you have to admit, no power steering and auto is a weird combo, you'd think if manual doesn't sell, then having no power steering wouldn't either.

@@bst857 that's a real fair point actualy. In fact, are there any other cars sold without PS at this point?

I am also considering the stage 1.. sometimes I feel it needs more (generally above 160 km/h) sometimes I feel it has more than enough. I fear that tuning it will make me do even more (potentially risky) overtakes :D

@@ontheroadalfaandi9418 Well, I would never go back. I gained 48HP with the stage 1 conversion (also did a bit about the air intake). Went from 248HP to 296HP. It made the 4C as how it should be. In my opinion, then it's already supercar fast. Maybe not about 200km/u, but untill 200km/u it's amazing. Of course, you get used to everything in the end, but especially untill 150km/u it's a complete hooligan.

The stock race is better than the upgraded ones.

I highly recommend that you should buy one. driving it never gets old :)

Bought two last year. Finally gotten used to them and don’t bust out laughing on every launch. Two of them were half the price of one Ferrari.

Can somebody add a power steering kit on that car?

@@shravanav993 I am not sure. Sorry could not answer the question, but let me add. I'm also not sure why people are hating the manual steering. It's part of its soul. it's difficult, I'm not the best with the it. Hard to go above certain speed on rough roads with it manual steer. But for sure it is worth a lot of fun and spirit. The car as a whole, making the fun factor with low to moderate speeds. With vague steering, people started to search for faster and high g-lateral numbers to have fun. With this car you don't need them. (Yet you still have raipd acceleration and carbon chassis leading to amazing g-lateral numbers) I imagine it as the incarnation of 60s super cars with new mechanical technology.

@@shravanav993 I have one...why the hell would you want power steering or power brakes on this light car.....it is light and you would loose all the "feel". You can know the sex of the roadkill you drive over this one has so much feedback.

@@shravanav993 You could add an electric motor to the steering ,lots of classics have it you can turn it on or off at will.

@@iMANTlS very much agree :)

U think it makes it more fun to drive than 718 cayman s? Since it weights 500 pounds less

@@shelbyhaiketic4212 I have not driven a 718 Cayman S but I will say I traded my 997.1 911 Carrera S for the 4C and have barely looked back! The Cayman S will be a far more usable car than the 4C but the 4C will feel more special!

o wow, only if you own 5 :d I wouldn't there for the first 4, maybe I would do it to the 5th. They are still so special, even in stock form :)

Yeah, and they're great for a daily driver, maybe great for drag runs, fast 0-60 etc... or just making driving fast easier. But for a back road blast it takes the fun out of it for me.

Any question of choosing between DCT or a traditional stick.....just drive a current car with a good DCT. You will quickly see the advantage. Have had many cars with stick shift including a SCCA race car. DCT is amazing. There are some nice things about old technology.....but there are good reasons why people like technology...otherwise you would still have crank start, mechanical drum brakes, etc.

@@RobertKarlBerta I have had a current car with DCT and there was nothing wrong with its operation, its lightning quick. No doubt it has the advantage. But I'm talking about fun, and I just think DCTs are less fun. You mentioned brakes - there is no skill or interactive difference with drum vs disc brakes, you press the pedal, and discs are better at stopping, end of story. But with DCT vs manual, there is a satisfaction to be had from it which is almost completely lost in a DCT, in my opinion. If you take your reasoning to its conclusion, you'll be happiest with a self driving car that can drive faster and better than any human, and you can just sit there as a passenger. When it comes to fun, there is a sweet spot between the old technology and the new, and I think DCT brings cars outside of that sweet spot. Manual involves you in the process, DCT removes you from it. Its why tennis rackets aren't huge, it'd be boring to play if the size of the racket meant you didn't have to concentrate, it'd be pointless to play.

@@bst857 Peoples are always arguing about DCT -boxes being fast and easy. Everyone seems to forget the connection and pure driving pleasure which only comes with manual gear changes, heel 'n toeing by YOURSELF. During day-to-day driving or even track days the factory claimed acceleration or any other performance numbers doesn't mean *shite* as 99,9% of the drivers, regardless the car, aren't gonna achieve similar laptimes than professional factory test drivers. Thus, for the sheer pleasure of it, manual is always better. True enthusiasts will know - ppls who think more speed and more power = better, ever wont...

@@bst857 Can't agree with you.....I raced for years in SCCA and can do a mean heel and toe but I would be the last one to say a DCT can't be just as fun and it is certainly faster. And on track you still shift the gears manually....just no clutch involved. There is a reason why all F1 cars, LeMans prototypes, etc. use DCT. Even those that use old style manuals in racing now use sequential shifters.

I was so upset that I couldn’t get a manual with mine. But after having it for 6 months or so I can say I’d have no interest in a manual with this car. The DCT is what it needs.

@@mitchellkohrmann Agreed. A manual trans would be a very poor match indeed to the 4C's feisty turbo-four, "a wop engine", Sergio Marchionne called it.

I think the cruiser drivers don’t really know how to drive. They copy other KZfaqrs reviewer comments as they are not experienced.

Prices in UK for RHD are stupid compared to the LHD ones. 20k difference...you are lucky if you live in the uk to have these for 30k

I might be an idiot but I am considering to daily this car 😂

@@tootalltodrive Get an original evora instead; much better for that. I do 12K per year in mine.

@@tootalltodrive it already is my dream car no matter what anybody says. Probably goes better in european roads than on bumpy british ones...I would daily it too no doubt or at least drive it everyday as a therapy...

Francisco Cabrera Brito by the way I am also 2m 😂

Probably not a gt3rs

The North American versions of the 4C came with a full leather interior with contrast stitching plus an optional carbon fibre package which makes the interior feel as special as the rest of the car. It's too bad the Brit/Euro versions didn't get the same treatment.

How about someone who had both Exige and 4C both modded....my neighbor and fellow 4C owner.....the 4C is the better car.

this :D

Two feet, two hands, two eyes, one brain. All you need.

Alfa never offered the 4C with a manual.

Tragic it really should have had a manual option

All Alfa's should have manual transmission.

If you drive a real DCT you will see why that is pretty much the standard now. Ferrari was talked into having a manual option for the 458 and it cost them big bucks. They sold two cars with that manual. I have owned tons of manual shift cars including a SCCA race car. But my 4C is amazing.....those who think it is simply a 6 speed slush box haven't driven one. Perfect rpm matching up and down shifts, 130ms shifts, and perfect matching to engine torque shift points. The 4C is a hard core drivers car....not a GT. Only the Lotus Exige and Alpine 110 are of similar design. Sadly that type of car is going away as sports cars become more and more bloated rolling sofas with lots of cup holders. Have had my 4C LE for 5 years....bullet proof on track and reliable. I like the interior.....mine is the leather dash and door cards and other upscale options. The instruments and controls are well laid out for driving. Lots of fan boys of other brands who haven't driven one....or if they did they didn't use it in the environment where it excels....tight twisties. It is a completely impractical car...except for putting one hell of a smile on your face.

@@RobertKarlBerta you say 130ms shift like that makes a difference to 99% of people who drive. A true drivers car will always be a manual.

So you fully load the suspension every corner then?

@@JayEmmOnCars nah, just most corners ;) Let me know if you ever come to Texas. Would love to take you on one of the "Britalia" drives we have. Alfas and Lotus tearing up the B roads, as you'd call them.

@@JayEmmOnCars 😉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdhda6qZ29qXqac.html

It did....I have a 4C but not a fan of that particular intake....too loud and irritating to the driver and passenger on a longer trip.

@@RobertKarlBerta EC V2?

It is VERY good....5 years on mine and loving it still. They are very reliable and bullet proof on track....just a few simple mods take it to the next level.

@@RobertKarlBerta really reliable? You never been stranded in the middle of nowhere?

@@93mlo Nope...never been stranded not in the 5 years with the 4C or over 40 years in my 69 Spider. What do you own that is so reliable 😂

@@RobertKarlBerta ND mx5 2019 my only car since I'm single and don't want kids , wife etc

good one. although this engine has a lot of character too :)

I am 6ft 7 and about to test one on Thursday will probably post a video about it too!

I tested one the other day and I defo don’t fit! Very sad day, as it is my dream car, but no way could I drive it. Couldn’t get my keens below the dash or anything...

6’1” so I can’t really talk. But I have loads of head room in mine. Don’t forget that the seats are fixed. But if you remove them you can adjust them with the side screws and gain a few inches of room from factory. The steering wheel can also take shims to move it up.

@@mitchellkohrmann have you done this to yours? I would buy one in a heartbeat if I fit 🤞

@@tootalltodrive I have. It’s honestly a must do and it’s super simple. I went from barely being able to fit at my height to having about 4 inches of head room and 5 -6 inches of leg room. It’s also my favorite all around car out of many supercars I’ve owned. Super theatrical.

Manual with this kind of steering is impossibile to manage. You will kill yours self at the first hole. This car is very sensible. Dry dual clutch is good in manual. In automatic nope. But it is amazing going up and down with this baby after the tuning. About sound check the video of Scara with Titanium exhaust. Sound is really really good. And the microphone don’t keep it super well because is very deep.

I think what you are describing is a better looking Porsche. If you want a Porsche, buy a Porsche. The 4C is an Alfa. No other manufacturer has built a car quite like the 4C. It is a rather unique car, "a mini supercar for the masses", as one reviewer aptly called it.

He's a Lotus Laddie, not an Alfista.

@Antonio Farina i think one of the problems for this car in the end was that it was neither a pared down track car nor a daily driver, being compromised in both respects. Porsche biased the Boxster to practical daily use, cars like the Lotus Exige make few compromises to daily use but are very performance focused, the 4C seemed to be somewhere in between. Even in a pared down track car people tend to have certain expectations for perceived quality at this price point. Basic and no frills is not the same as cheap feeling. Mazda can make a very pleasant interior for the much cheaper MX5.

The North American version of the 4C has a very nice interior indeed, with stitched leather dash and door panels, a digital instrument display, Alcantara and leather seats and lashings of carbon fibre everywhere. As to build quality, I can only say it is outstanding. I've owned Fiats before, and my 4C is in another league altogether. It's virtually hand assembled by Maserati, and the care taken in construction shows.

Oh, please.

@@davidturgeon2087 thanks 😆

@@jasonboyle7203 The Elise is a kit car in comparison.

Or two.

All that means is that they understand how a car like this SHOULD be executed. It's a prettier and WORSE Lotus, that simple

One man's opinion. There are many who own both and would disagree.@@JayEmmOnCars

Of course! [;>)

Danger to manifold

@@JayEmmOnCars just teasing, mate.

Or manifold dangers!@@JayEmmOnCars

I'm not afraid to wear what I want, and I am not afraid to say what I want

@@JayEmmOnCars Take a joke, you idiot.

@@TAG247 LOL...

No one said you weren't.@@JayEmmOnCars

Exactly. Why even bother doing the upgrades. Just get the better package all together.

Not available in the US.....and it is at least double the price over a 4C. I like the Exige Cup cars but they aren't price competitive with a Porsche and the Porsche is faster and a better car (and I am not a Porsche fan).

The V6 Exige is quicker than the Cayman GT4. The Elise handles a lot better than the 4c and its a manual (and cheaper).

Elise it's a true drivers car (chassis wise). The 4C never convince.

The 4C IS nice, but it needs work to fix the handling. But even then the stock Elise is better. It's much sturdier on the road and isn't at all twitchy like the 4C.

Not the GTR, the new RS! Looks so much nicer. And I adored the GTR

@MunroM84 It is a road car

If you drove one you would probably see why. The TCT is well matched to the engine.

„super expensive“ show me another car with a carbon monocoque for such a price🤡

Yet you are a fan of the Nissan 350Z? GTFO my face...

Then don't buy one! Easy.

It is the recording mike on the camera....they have a really good sound.

@@RobertKarlBerta you're telling me that the mic which works fine for every other car had an off day? come on buddy

@@Hali88 I think he's a 4C owner ;-)

Ross Tarran so he would know better right? the car displayed (very poorly) in this video has an aftermakrket exhaust and it does sound like shit compared to the original one

@@South4153 Hey I was agreeing with Hali, and you!

The 8C was a masterpiece, one of the most timeless cars ever made. The 4C is just a pile of crap

Asif Noaman you drive an opel and call a 4c crap🤡🤡🤡🤡

@@South4153 yeah and its faster 😁 now Piss off and drive your Prius

Asif Noaman i‘d rather have a prius than an opel😂 but i‘m happy with my 4c and my other two cars🤣✌🏽

@@South4153 nah, you're just one of those badge haters. You look at a logo and think that they're shit just because they dont make premium cars. Opel and Vauxhall have made amazing cars that have had excellent reviews from well known car magazines and automotive journalists such as the Opel Omega EVO 500, Manta GTE, VX220, Vauxhall Lotus Carlton (Fastest saloon for 10 years in a row), Opel GT, Vectra VXR, Astra H/J VXR and many more. At least they are more reliable, Tuneable and more unique than any shitty Alfa. Only the 155, 156 GTA, 8C, 33 Stradale and Gulia GTAM take my heart

Nope. They are actually very reliable. But nice try. ;-) Stick with the BIMMER.

In several owner surveys of all makes, the 4C was the first non Japanese car for least issues and reliability in three years of ownership. In two of the them they beat out Honda and all of the Merc, Porsche, BMW, Jag, were far down the list. Mine is 5 years old and no issues and bullet proof on track.

Looks like the cars ma be better than I heard.

Unreliable? You own one? I do and haven't had a single issue in 3 years and I drive it hard.

It never liked you either.

@@hankwilliams5622 let it be my biggest lost

I hear the 4C never liked you, so that's fair.

@@davidturgeon2087 who designed it actually didn't liked it

@@andreiarama8745 I guess there's a meaning in there somewhere, but darned if I can find it.

But you aren't getting a carbon tub anywhere else, and interior isn't as much poor as it is light.

I'm not saying you should change your opinion, if you don't like the car it's fine but there's something really cool about a lightweight sports car, 250hp~ is plenty when it weighs in at less than a tonne. You need to drive one to see 😊 Plus it helps that it makes silly noises and in most people's eyes it looks very pretty too.

@@owenwales4328 I have driven one on the public roads..and to be honest it scared the pants off me hahaha..You are right they do look cool and pretty,But i think if i wanted a lightweight car i would look for something else..But hey that is my humble opinion..If we were all the same,the world would be boring

@@TheLaXandro I bet even the carbon tub will rust now its on an Alpha hahaha

For the same cost in the UK (£35,000) what would you rather have that delivers a similar experience (but better)

have you seen your face?

@@South4153 - Yes. Ask me another stupid question.